TK To Boston As Of S14

TurkishWings · Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:49 pm

It's finally happened. Nonstop daily flights between IST and BOS as of June 9, 2014. Flights are loaded in GDS and the aircraft is Airbus 330 it seems...

IST-BOS : 14:00-17:35
BOS-IST 23:55-16:35

Very similar to the other North American schedules...

LAXintl · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:08 pm

Yes the schedule is loaded, but not all the fares.

Flight numbers are TK81/82.

p.s. - flight starts May 12th - 5x weekly. Goes daily in June.

[Edited 2013-07-22 15:11:26]

TK787 · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:08 pm

Thanks TurkishWings, you beat me to it.
This is no brainer, but I wasn't expecting daily.
332/333 has the legs for BOS easily and earlier deliveries of 333 instead of 77Ws made this possible.
BOS is number 5 in terms of O&D Turkey-US market (thanks to LAXintl) only to followed by SFO and MIA.
SFO can't be that far behind.
Congrats to TK!

TurkishWings · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:12 pm

With all the long haul planes due to be delivered soon, SFO/DTW/MIA can not be far behind...

I am also expecting second daily ORD and LAX....

thekennady · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:24 pm

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):

2nd daily to ORD? Where did you hear this rumor? ORD has RJ, EY, QR, and numerous European carriers that offer connections through their hubs. TK also goes to IAH now, would there really be room for a 2nd flight to ORD? LAX i could see, the only direct competition to that region is EK. (Besides the EU carriers)

JetBlue1058 · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Awesome news great to see BOS land yet another European carrier. The E terminal was pretty busy with international heavies when I went through last week. I wander if the TK a330 will stay at a hard stand for some of the hours the plane is on the ground at BOS, 6 is a long time compared to some other international BOS turns!

TK787 · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:45 pm

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 5):
I wander if the TK a330 will stay at a hard stand for some of the hours the plane is on the ground at BOS, 6 is a long time

Mmmmm.
Any chance of a IST-BOS-DTW-BOS-IST?

TurkishWings · Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:51 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 6):
Any chance of a IST-BOS-DTW-BOS-IST?

I don't think 6 hours is enough to do that... I think it will also be a 330 nonstop...

chrisnh · Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:01 pm

Six hours on the ground in Boston...that's a lot. He won't occupy a gate that long; probably drag him over to North Cargo until it's time to bring him back. You sure that's not enough time to go to Detroit & back?

LAXintl · Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:24 pm

Quoting thekennady (Reply 4):
2nd daily to ORD? Where did you hear this rumor?

CEO said it himself. He sees doubling of LAX and ORD service once enough frames are available. Was posted in one of the Turkish aviation threads in the recent past.

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 7):
I don't think 6 hours is enough to do that..

Yup. Not enough time, once you subtract out 90mins at BOS coming and going.

hinckley · Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:37 pm

This is great news, especially for BOS-IST O&D traffic. But I wonder - does TK open up any significant one-stop destinations that are not already accessible by the other European airlines serving BOS?

AVENSAB727 · Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:53 pm

Any chance of IAH-IST being doubled?

LAXintl · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 2):
BOS is number 5 in terms of O&D Turkey-US market (thanks to LAXintl)

Yes and keeps growing each year. The regions educational institutions are driving growing volume of traffic from Turkey, plus growing business links in sectors like technology, construction, finance and bio-medical.

You probably recall about 3-years ago I stated BOS would be a serious contender for TK and I recall getting in debates with folks that insisted markets like Miami would come first. TK (and myself) have been watching BOS for about the last 5-years.

As an added bonus, TK thanks to its JetBlue codeshare will be able to sell itineraries via Boston as well to reduce the direct pressure on the route.

Quoting hinckley (Reply 10):
This is great news, especially for BOS-IST O&D traffic. But I wonder - does TK open up any significant one-stop destinations that are not already accessible by the other European airlines serving BOS?

TK brings it usual suspect of connecting markets. Its the largest foreign airline in Israel and Iran so those are naturals plus India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Gulf region, Levent, many destinations in Africa, CIS countries, and parts of Southern Europe. You can even fly to places like Singapore on TK from BOS 1-stop.

Its US services tend to carry a smorgasbord of beyond clients.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 11):
Any chance of IAH-IST being doubled?

you made me almost spill my coffee.

Give it some time. Station has barely been open for 3-months.

thomasphoto60 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:23 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 11):
Any chance of IAH-IST being doubled?

Wow! you made me almost spill my coffee.

Give it some time. Station has barely been open for 3-months.

Sadly, this is typical Avensa, an embarassment to all of us IAH fans.

That said, congrats to BOS, 2 new (announced) carriers in less than a week, nice goin Bean Town.

chrisnh · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:28 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 13):
That said, congrats to BOS, 2 new (announced) carriers in less than a week, nice goin Bean Town.

Yes, and nothing yet heard from the Middle Eastern troika of Emirates/Qatar/Etihad. That shoe has yet to drop.

adamh8297 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:29 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):

TK brings it usual suspect of connecting markets. Its the largest foreign airline in Israel and Iran so those are naturals plus India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Gulf region, Levent, many destinations in Africa, CIS countries, and parts of Southern Europe. You can even fly to places like Singapore on TK from BOS 1-stop.

Don't forget MLE - a favorite of scuba divers such as myself! First 1-stop to the Maldives from BOS! Also SSH and HRG are now first time 1-stop.

I think TK will be stealing a lot of BOS-TLV traffic as they have done in NYC.

AVENSAB727 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:43 am

[quote=thomasphoto60,reply=13]Sadly, this is typical Avensa, an embarassment to all of us IAH fans.

Dude, the CEO said that TK would eventually like to go double-daily, I heard the flight has been doing very well.

adamh8297 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:45 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 13):
That said, congrats to BOS, 2 new (announced) carriers in less than a week, nice goin Bean Town.

Lets wait for HU to load the BOS-PEK flights before the celebration but give TK credit for putting their money where their mouth is.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 14):
Yes, and nothing yet heard from the Middle Eastern troika of Emirates/Qatar/Etihad. That shoe has yet to drop.

My prediction is that EK will start BOS-DXB next year as well but QR holds off for a long time. QR should focus on OW hubs in the USA and launch MIA and DFW as soon as its feasible.

ASA · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:28 am

Woohoo!!! What a news

... been waiting for a while!!!

Can't wait to fly 1-stop to DAC from BOS ... this will be awesome!

Quoting hinckley (Reply 10):

This is great news, especially for BOS-IST O&D traffic. But I wonder - does TK open up any significant one-stop destinations that are not already accessible by the other European airlines serving BOS?

OMG ... where do I start? Almost all of Central Asia ... so many destinations in Africa, the Levant, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. Add to that MLE, SSH, ULN, etc type of unique destinations.

jayunited · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:29 am

Congratulations to TK for the addition of BOS!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):
CEO said it himself. He sees doubling of LAX and ORD service once enough frames are available. Was posted in one of the Turkish aviation threads in the recent past.

TK in Chicago is basically going up against all the Middle East carriers and with Qatar now flying daily from Chicago where is TK seeing room for more growth without trashing yields in an already competitive market when all of these airlines are fighting for the same passengers? Or could TK perhaps trying to keep EK out of the Chicago market because at some point the market has to reach saturation and I'm not saying we are at saturation here in Chicago but if TK does in deed add a second flight to Chicago and EK finally does decide to add Chicago how will these airlines keep the yields high with there being so much capacity in the market?

Pbb152 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:48 am

AVENSA, this thread is not about IAH. It is about TK to Boston. Stop hijacking threads with your IAH questions.

Congrats to Boston spotters. A nice addition to your lineup.

adamh8297 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:50 am

Quoting ASA (Reply 18):
Can't wait to fly 1-stop to DAC from BOS ... this will be awesome!

Connects well with DAC and you might like the price = $1186.30 USD

Ran a search for 6/13/14 to 6/22/14 on matrix.itasoftware.com

AA777223 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:27 pm

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 13):
Sadly, this is typical Avensa, an embarassment to all of us IAH fans.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 16):
Dude, the CEO said that TK would eventually like to go double-daily, I heard the flight has been doing very well.

Quoting Pbb152 (Reply 20):
AVENSA, this thread is not about IAH. It is about TK to Boston. Stop hijacking threads with your IAH questions.

Good Lord, that was a little harsh. If it is related to the discussion, I don't see how it was a harm to ask. He just asked one question, fellas.

On a definitely related note (I hope that passes muster here), I will be taking the IAH-IST flight over Memorial Day weekend, and it appears to be quite full. Granted, it is a holiday, but I think the service is performing well. TK seems to be making major inroads to the US, and on their website they claim to fly to more international destination than any other airline. I know they are growing, but with the EK, BA, LH, AF, UA, DL, etc.s of the world, that seems a little tough for me to believe, but maybe they're right.

TK787 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 22):
their website they claim to fly to more international destination than any other airline.

I think it means, TK flies to most countries; (crazy but true. location, location, location....)
http://www.garfors.com/2013/03/the-w...s-most-international-airlines.html

airbazar · Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:41 pm

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 5):
Awesome news great to see BOS land yet another European carrier. The E terminal was pretty busy with international heavies when I went through last week. I wander if the TK a330 will stay at a hard stand for some of the hours the plane is on the ground at BOS, 6 is a long time compared to some other international BOS turns!

Most definitely a remote stand for the peak Summer months. May be able to get away with staying at the gate outside the Summer months.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
As an added bonus, TK thanks to its JetBlue codeshare will be able to sell itineraries via Boston as well to reduce the direct pressure on the route.

BOS really needs to provide better airside connectivity between terminals C and E. This will be B6's 4th codeshare partner in terminal E: LH, JL, EI, TK. EK is probably coming to BOS too and there's also the partnerships with FI and VS.

behramjee · Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:09 pm

yes correct...TK CEO wants NRT LAX and ORD to go double daily as more wide bodied aircraft get delivered to the airline

Source: http://www.eturbonews.com/34130/conv...ation-turkish-airlines-biggest-fan

ASA · Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:44 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 21):
Connects well with DAC and you might like the price = $1186.30 USD

Ran a search for 6/13/14 to 6/22/14 on matrix.itasoftware.com

That's really awesome - feel like buying right now

Hope these fares will be available for a while ...

Quoting TurkishWings (Thread starter):
IST-BOS : 14:00-17:35
BOS-IST 23:55-16:35

Why 6 hours on the ground - and not leave sooner? That would actually give a slightly better connecting space to many travellers to South Asia ... 3+ hours instead of less than 2 ... Is this an IST gate/parking issue?

jreuschl · Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:47 pm

ORD has a late departure time, too. You'd think if they could leave earlier that would give better connection options and more traffic.

slcdeltarumd11 · Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:48 pm

Really seems to be an awesome time for BOS. All this new international service.

LAXintl · Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:51 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 26):
Why 6 hours on the ground - and not leave sooner? That would actually give a slightly better connecting space to many travellers to South Asia ... 3+ hours instead of less than 2 ... Is this an IST gate/parking issue?

Its based solely on IST hub banks.
Other Americas flights also arrive around 5pm back into IST.

Also publishing 3+ hour connections is not attractive for the general public, and would also punish TK listings in GDS as flights are most often sorted by transit time, with shortest journey on top.

tlecam · Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm

Quoting behramjee (Reply 25):

I agree 100%. This is also a problem for the alliances who are connecting people onto flag carriers from intl.

ASA · Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:35 pm

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 28):
Really seems to be an awesome time for BOS. All this new international service.

Indeed. CM started less than 2 weeks ago. Hope the HU service materializes too!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
As an added bonus, TK thanks to its JetBlue codeshare will be able to sell itineraries via Boston as well to reduce the direct pressure on the route.

I hope the JetBlue hub really becomes an integral part of this operation ... BOS is a great place to connect for flights to/from Europe. With B6 having such a big operation in BOS ... people from many places in US can have 1-stop to IST and 2-stops to almost 'anywhere'

adamh8297 · Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:48 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 31):

So far isn't it just interline agreements between TK and B6?

ASA · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:45 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 32):
So far isn't it just interline agreements between TK and B6?

It is ... but hoping that it blooms into a code-share agreement soon. TK will have 3x daily to JFK and 1x daily to BOS from S14 ... the two biggest B6 hubs with 250+ flights. Even if 50 flights provide the right connections - that's huge!

Miami · Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:53 pm

Any possibilities we can see TK launch IST-MIA in 2014?

If I do recall, TK flew to MIA with an A340.

TK787 · Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:06 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 34):

Probably not in 2014.

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
With all the long haul planes due to be delivered soon, SFO/DTW/MIA can not be far behind...

DTW might be next, not sure what the latest bankruptcy means. But it is within 332/333 reach.
SFO, ATL, MIA might have to wait a bit more. Wait for more 77W arrivals. 343s are stretched thin and not sure if 332/333 have the legs for ATL or MIA.

miaintl · Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:13 pm

Is BOS-IST a high-yielding market? Also is BOS-IST a bigger market than MIA-IST?

TK787 · Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:33 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 36):

Yes, in terms of demand BOS is higher up than MIA. Not only O&D but also connections to all destinations mentioned above.

LAXintl · Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:36 pm

And BOS is much cheaper to operate versus MIA -- Atleast 2 hours less flt time each way.

ASA · Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:46 pm

Thanks to LAXintl ... we have some detailed Turkey-US O&D numbers in Jan 2013 thread

Turkish Aviation January 2013 (by TK787 Dec 31 2012 in Civil Aviation)#1

BOS is higher than MIA or SFO ... and way more than ATL or IAH. But these are O&D numbers ... i'm sure the capacity of generating connecting traffic beyond IST will matter a lot as well.

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