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MesaFlyGuy
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TAM 763 At JFK?

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:11 pm

So I'm drivin into JFK tor my flight around 2:30pm and what do you think I see sitting there next to the road, but a TAM 767! But, not only did I see a TAM 767, but I saw one sporting a sexy pair of winglets! I had no idea TAM was outfitting their '67s with winglets! Socan anybody what it's doing here? I thought TAM was all a330 and 77W (which I also saw parked at a remote stand for the day) at JFK.

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Viscount724
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

Quoting Mesaflyguy (Thread starter):
I thought TAM was all a330 and 77W (which I also saw parked at a remote stand for the day) at JFK.

TAM schedules show a daily 763 nonstop GIG-JFK. Arrives 7:55 AM and leaves 7:10 PM.
 
A388
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:46 pm

Yes TAM recently took delivery of two ex-LAN 76W's.


See the photo in below link:


http://cnfaovivo.blogspot.com/2013/0...tam-recebe-mais-um-boeing-767.html


A388

[Edited 2013-08-05 13:48:29]
 
steve6666
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:48 pm

Quoting Mesaflyguy (Thread starter):
Socan anybody what it's doing here? I thought TAM was all a330 and 77W (which I also saw parked at a remote stand for the day) at JFK.

TAM have just (in the last couple of months) received two or three ex-LAN B763s with winglets to replace the A330s that are being returned to lessor. Those birds were only in the LAN fleet about six months to a year and had winglets on delivery to LAN.
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:31 pm

Quoting Mesaflyguy (Thread starter):
But, not only did I see a TAM 767, but I saw one sporting a sexy pair of winglets! I had no idea TAM was outfitting their '67s with winglets! Socan anybody what it's doing here?

TAM currently has three ex-LAN B-767-316ERs in its fleet:
PT-MSW (CC-BDJ)-->Delivered to LAN during NOV12
PT-MSX (CC-BDK)-->Delivered to LAN during DEC12
PT-MSY (CC-BDL)-->Delivered to LAN during DEC12

The ex-LAN B-767-316ERs are currently deployed on the GIG-JFK and GIG-LHR routes.

PT-MSY At LHR:

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Also, TAM recently took delivery of its ninth 77W (PT-MUI) which will be deployed on the GRU-CDG route later this month.

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 3):
Those birds were only in the LAN fleet about six months to a year and had winglets on delivery to LAN.

The winglets are fitted on LAN's 767s after delivery either at ATL or MEX.
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:21 am

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 3):
TAM have just (in the last couple of months) received two or three ex-LAN B763s with winglets to replace the A330s that are being returned to lessor. Those birds were only in the LAN fleet about six months to a year and had winglets on delivery to LAN.

And come with LAN Business Class seats (Flat), a plus compared to JJ current seats (Lie Flat).
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:29 am

Thanks guys! The plane I saw today was PT-MSX.
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:08 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
Quoting steve6666 (Reply 3):
Those birds were only in the LAN fleet about six months to a year and had winglets on delivery to LAN.

The winglets are fitted on LAN's 767s after delivery either at ATL or MEX.

OK, what I meant was I don't think they are ever seen in revenue service without winglets, unlike the former Alitalia 767s that TAM has/had(?), but take your point.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5):
Quoting steve6666 (Reply 3):
TAM have just (in the last couple of months) received two or three ex-LAN B763s with winglets to replace the A330s that are being returned to lessor. Those birds were only in the LAN fleet about six months to a year and had winglets on delivery to LAN.

And come with LAN Business Class seats (Flat), a plus compared to JJ current seats (Lie Flat).

On that basis, I would rather fly the 767 too......
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:37 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5):
And come with LAN Business Class seats (Flat), a plus compared to JJ current seats (Lie Flat).

It's important to note that TAM's 767-316ERs feature the new Premium Business Class product that was formally introduced with the delivery of LAN's first 787.
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:07 pm

The red winglets look pretty nice!

I guess I have seen a picture of them painted in white, but can't remember where...
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:53 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 8):
It's important to note that TAM's 767-316ERs feature the new Premium Business Class product that was formally introduced with the delivery of LAN's first 787.

Makes sense then that they are used on important markets like JFK and LHR.
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:27 pm

Quoting Mesaflyguy (Reply 10):

Makes sense then that they are used on important markets like JFK and LHR.

And those are the premium routes from Rio operated by JJ.

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 7):
OK, what I meant was I don't think they are ever seen in revenue service without winglets, unlike the former Alitalia 767s that TAM has/had(?), but take your point.

True. JJ still operates 3 former AZ 767's. They operate GIG-MIA-GIG, MIA-MAO-MIA, CNF-MIA-CNF and BSB-MIA-BSB.
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:29 pm

Do we have any picts of the new TAM 767 interiors?
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:57 am

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 12):
Do we have any picts of the new TAM 767 interiors?

You don't need any. Just look for pictures of LAN's interior. Everything is the same.
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:26 am

A great improvement to the fleet, compared to the older A332's and ex-AZ 763's. Y gained a better hard product too, with IFE (not present on the ex-AZ birds) and the 777 style overhead panels. I'm planning on flying BSB-MIA-BSB in November, I hope the three old ones are gone by then. If not, I may consider a stop at SCL first.
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:38 am

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 12):
Do we have any picts of the new TAM 767 interiors?

It is the same interiors introduced on LAN's 787s:

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C010T3
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:38 am

Here we got some pictures of PT-MSY:



Thanks to Thiagovskie, Contato Radar member
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:17 am

WOW that's a huge improvement over the older A330s.
Just curious, what kind of CASM disadvantage does the 763 have over the 332?
 
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RE: TAM 763 At JFK?

Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 17):
WOW that's a huge improvement over the older A330s.

2-2-2 J seating (only one less across than Y class) isn't good on a 767 compared to the significantly wider Airbus cabin. The carriers with the best J products on 767s have/had 5-abreast configurations (2-2-1 or 2-1-2) which permitted much wider seats, equivalent to those on larger widebodies.

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