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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:36 am

Uh oh, hopefully it was something relatively minor and the media is just throwing around the "crash" term.
 
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http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130814-0


first rumors about an A300 of UPS...


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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:40 am

I wonder which plane models UPS operates there? I hope the crew is okay.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:45 am

Found this:

http://www.alabamas13.com/story/23132151/east-birmingham-plane-crash

Can anyone confirm its UPS???

Edit: UPS operates the A300 into BHM and flt 1354 was due to arrive at 0449.

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[Edited 2013-08-14 03:48:02]
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:46 am

I found this short video posted online. It's from a good distance away, but you can clearly see a large fire.
 
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Prayers for those onboard.   
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:52 am

This is Birmingham, AL. USA and not Birmingham, UK.

Birmingham, AL. TV stations are still reporting a UPS plane.

[Edited 2013-08-14 03:54:18]
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:55 am

Always good to remember there are two Birmingham! (The CNN report threw me in this regards, but it *is* breaking news, so not from 2002!)
 
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Hope everyone involved is okay
 
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Breaking News @BreakingNews 6m
Update: UPS Flight 1354, an A300 en route from Louisville, Kentucky, to Birmingham, Alabama, has crashed, FAA confirms - @spann, @wapiradio

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More: UPS plane crashed while on approach to Birmingham, Alabama, airport, FAA says - @AP
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:15 am

Not much to say yet, except that our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends. Let's hope somehow that everyone was ok.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:26 am

NBC News is reporting that the aircraft involved was an Airbus A330 and that it crashed at approximately 6am local time.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...s-explodes-at-alabama-airport?lite
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:27 am

So only UPS flight operating in or out of BHM at the time was UPS1354...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...4/history/20130814/0849Z/KSDF/KBHM

Hopefully now that the sun is coming out we can start to get the first live shots or photos and see the state of the aircraft and hear of a status on the crew.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:29 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 24):
NBC News is reporting that the aircraft involved was an Airbus A330 and that it crashed at approximately 6am local time.

Which is pretty good.... considering UPS does not nor has ever operated an A330. Good fact checking yet again by Mainstream media.
 
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Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 27):
considering UPS does not nor has ever operated an A330. Good fact checking yet again by Mainstream media.

Could be a typo.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:36 am

A crash outside the airport lets me fear for the worst. A300 N155UP was operating that flight according to aviation-safety.net.

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 24):
NBC News is reporting that the aircraft involved was an Airbus A330 and that it crashed at approximately 6am local time.

NBC = No Bloody Clue?
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:36 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 28):
Could be a typo.

Possible. CNN got it right at least.

I did just hear at work that the aircraft is about 1/2 mile from the field. That in and of itself doesn't sound very promising...
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:37 am

Latest video and photos coming out here are showing the cockpit intact and separated from the rest of the wreckage. Looks like it hit a hill upon impact and broke the rear of the airplane off. Still preliminary but pilots are still unaccounted for.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:39 am

Interesting to see there is Smoke now being reported in the METAR.

SPECI KBHM 141106Z 00000KT 9SM FEW005 OVC070 23/22 A2999 RMK AO2
FEW005 FU

And here was the METAR at arrival time

KBHM 140953Z 34004KT 10SM FEW011 BKN035 OVC075 23/22 A2997 RMK
AO2 SLP141 T02330222

[Edited 2013-08-14 05:12:10]
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:41 am

Picture of burning tail section:

http://twitter.com/theglenmoreland/status/367605399651770368/photo/1

[Edited 2013-08-14 04:48:54]
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:43 am

It looks like this aircraft is less than 10 years old. A300 and A310 do not have the most sterling of safety records to be sure. Hope the crew made it out.

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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:43 am

still no confirmation of aircraft type by the company ???
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:46 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 24):
NBC News is reporting that the aircraft involved was an Airbus A330

I'm surprised NBC isn't reporting the aircraft as a Ford Tri-Motor.
Good thing the empty field was there because there isn't much empty around that airport.
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Quoting EK413 (Reply 23):
UPS Cargo Plane has crashed near 19th Avenue North and North East Lake Boulevard in an open field that used to be a neighborhood. That field is now owned by the airport.

The location of the crash.

http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=birming...=0,0,10603338330402532200&t=h&z=15

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 34):
Picture of burning tail section:https://twitter.com/theglenmoreland/status/367605399651770368/photo/1

Don't forget to remove the S after http

http://twitter.com/theglenmoreland/status/367605399651770368/photo/1
 
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Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 38):
The location of the crash.

Here is a better link.

www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=pkwyxz7s3x...nt.pkwyxz7s3xx6_UPS%20Crash%3F____

You can see some of the old roads where the neighborhood use to be.
 
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Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 38):
Don't forget to remove the S after http

Thanks, I edited mine.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:50 am

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 34):
Picture of burning tail section:

This looks like a 757 to me.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:51 am

Acoording to Fox 6 in Birmingham, UPS has confirmed that it was the A300 from SDF that crashed. The two pilots were the only two on board. Unfortunately neither survived.

The crash occurred north of the airport in a field that used to be a neighborhood. It was purchased by the airport authority a few years ago. It is outside the airport fence but on airport property.

There's a live stream that is supposed to be covering a press conference held by the airport authority on myfoxal.com.

[Edited 2013-08-14 04:57:19]
 
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Fatalities confirmed. Bodies recovered 100 yards from aircraft.

http://www.abc3340.com/story/23132150/large-aircraft-crash-in-tarrant
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:57 am

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 37):

I'm surprised NBC isn't reporting the aircraft as a Ford Tri-Motor.

I didn't realize that UPS operates Ford Tri-Motors as well. Good to know...
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:58 am

I'm in Tuscaloosa, a 45 minute drive to the southwest of BHM. Very heavy rain and wind was making its way through the area around the time of the crash. May or may not have anything to do with it.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:02 pm

It looks as though the aircraft landed short and impacted a steep embankment. I hope this doesn't come out to be another Asiasa-type crash. Of course it's way too early to know what happened but there are striking parallels.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:04 pm

avherald with some more information:

http://avherald.com/h?article=466d969f&opt=0

-aircraft N155UP
- flight UPS1354 from Louisville,KY to Birmingham,AL
- came down on approach 1nm from runway 18
- debris trail of half a nm
- location a bit further north than initially reported

http://de.flightaware.com/live/fligh...4/history/20130814/0849Z/KSDF/KBHM
 
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It is reported on avherald now:
http://avherald.com/h?article=466d969f&opt=0
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:04 pm

Another photo from cbs42 of the aircraft/ part of the fuselage

http://2rb79u3xk7ie24aly21l64w1cnu.w...ds/sites/4/2013/08/planecrash3.jpg
 
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Quoting HSVflier (Reply 32):
Latest video and photos coming out here are showing the cockpit intact and separated from the rest of the wreckage.
Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 43):
Fatalities confirmed. Bodies recovered 100 yards from aircraft.

http://www.abc3340.com/story/2313215...rrant

I'm guessing the cockpit isn't as intact as it initially appeared.

All very sad. Prayers for the crew and their families.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:05 pm

Judging by the location of the crash on the map I assume it was on final for runway 18?
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UPS Airbus A300-600, registration N155UP. 2 confirmed dead.
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:10 pm

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 51):
I assume it was on final for runway 18?

This is what ASN reports:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130814-0
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:11 pm

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 51):

Yes. Looks to be on the approach for Runway 18. That runway has a localizer only with no glide slope due to the slope of the terrain north of the airport. The airport is pretty much in a bowl of sorts. Additionally the glideslope on runway 24 has been out of service all month while some work is being done at that end of the runway.

[Edited 2013-08-14 05:12:04]
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:16 pm

From Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/14...lane-crashes-near-alabama-airport/

Just speculation. Another undershoot?
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:17 pm

Quoting xjet (Reply 54):
Yes. Looks to be on the approach for Runway 18. That runway has a localizer only with no glide slope due to the slope of the terrain north of the airport. The airport is pretty much in a bowl of sorts. Additionally the glideslope on runway 24 has been out of service all month while some work is being done at that end of the runway.

Ok, who wants to take bets on how many days it will be before congress starts trying to pass legislation requiring commercial aircraft to use a fully functioning ILS when landing. They're going to point to Asiana and this UPS crash and say they both could have been avoided if there was a functioning glideslope. Just watch.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:24 pm

MSNBC is reporting it was a UPS "A330" (which they do not fly) but it was obviously a very large aircraft and appears to have been totally destroyed in a huge fire. They also said there is no word yet on the fate of the two crewmembers. Let's hope and pray they are OK. I am thinking it was an A300--tv people never can get the aircraft type correct.

By odd coincidence there was also a crash in Birmingham, UK at about the same time with the loss of 7 people.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:27 pm

Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 58):

This wouldn't surprise me, given our governments propensity for knee-jerk reactions. They could also say that you need glide slope information, not necessarily an ILS - you can get the same information on a GPS approach with an FPA. It would be ridiculous legislation regardless and hopefully they don't draw a line between the two dots to come up with such a proposal.
 
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