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Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:22 pm

Does anyone know if the repair to SWA Boeing 737-700 (N753SW) at LGA started yet or has the NTSB not yet released the a/c for repair?
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:45 pm

I think so, but will have to check on it.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:55 am

A friend in maintenance at WN told me it would not be repaired. We shall see...
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:55 am

I thought she was going to be a W/O..
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:52 am

Quoting B757forever (Reply 2):
A friend in maintenance at WN told me it would not be repaired. We shall see...

I do hope this is not true!!
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:05 am

Quoting n471wn (Reply 4):
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Quoting B757forever (Reply 2):
A friend in maintenance at WN told me it would not be repaired. We shall see...

I do hope this is not true!!

Seriously and with wadrs why do you care, will this affect you personally in some way ?
The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.


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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:09 am

http://avherald.com/img/swa_b737_n753sw_new_york_130722_2.jpg

Source: Av Herald

Can't say that on an early-build aircraft such as ship 753, damage like this would be economically fixable*. She's flown a good, long time, and hopefully would serve as a parable for all in the aviation community.

You never know, however, bigger fixes have happened on aircraft.


*Please take it with a grain of salt as I'm not a mechanic, economist, but someone who has seen bad damage to things.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:10 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 5):
Seriously and with wadrs why do you care, will this affect you personally in some way ?

Each a/c is like a child to many of us---we love them all!!
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:47 pm

Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 6):


Source: Av Herald

For a visual comparison:


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Photo © Petr Volek

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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:08 pm

DL MECH,

Thanks for posting that pic.

I've tried orienting the Av Herald pic - I [i[think[/i] it's from the FWD E & E bay looking aft, whereas it appears as though your pic is from the aft E & E looking fwd. Can you help clarify?
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:13 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 7):
Each a/c is like a child to many of us---we love them all!!

It's a machine. It does a job, if it can be replaced cheaper than repaired, doing anything other than that would be a blow to the credibility of the airline. They are in business to make money for the investors.

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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:15 pm

Quoting barney captain (Reply 9):
whereas it appears as though your pic is from the aft E & E looking fwd. Can you help clarify?

The avherald pic was taken from the forward cargo compartment looking forward. It looks like someone took the battery/oxygen bottle access cover off and held the camera just above the ships battery (ies).

Here's a good pic of the battery and oxygen bottle from the forward cargo compartment:


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[Edited 2013-08-30 10:26:07]
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:53 pm

Firsthand info from someone I know at SWA: it was DBER, thus a W/O.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:12 pm

Quoting Western727 (Reply 12):
Firsthand info from someone I know at SWA: it was DBER, thus a W/O.

I fear you are right and just found out that an American Airlines pilot was in the jump seat as the cabin was full......his perspective will be very interesting I am sure to the NTSB
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:24 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 7):
Each a/c is like a child to many of us---we love them all!!

That's just weird.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:36 pm

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 14):
Quoting n471wn (Reply 7):Each a/c is like a child to many of us---we love them all!!
That's just weird.

I can appreciate exactly what n471wn is saying. Many of us who have worked in this industry for many years maintaining the same aircraft day in and day out understand that each has a "personality" for lack of a better word. I can still tell you from memory the ship number of the first aircraft I worked on, the first I taxied, the one I changed an engine on in freezing rain in the middle of the night in Monroe La and the ones on which I have been involved in major structural repairs. I have worked on aircraft that I saw delivered new that I helped to maintain all the way through their retirement. You "know" every one of them. It's a passion. Some people understand it, some don't.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:24 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 13):
I fear you are right and just found out that an American Airlines pilot was in the jump seat as the cabin was full......his perspective will be very interesting I am sure to the NTSB

I wonder if he was considered crew or passenger as the crew/passenger injuries do not line up the best I can tell.
I had speculated in the original post about the jump seater but did not know what airline the pilot was working for.
The AA pilot might have something to say about the dynamics going on up front but I suspect he/she will be pretty quiet. One does not want to damage the jump seat privileges for the future. The jump seater may have not been paying much attention since they were not in control of the aircraft considering the 10K sterile cockpit rule.

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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:24 am

She's done for....
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:53 am

A/C N753 will be going to airplane heaven, as sad as it is to some ( I've even sat in the cockpit and even worked this particular A/C the many times she came into ISP ), I'd rather see the plane be lost than the people that were on board the plane..
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:58 am

Quoting okie (Reply 16):

I wonder if he was considered crew or passenger as the crew/passenger injuries do not line up the best I can tell.
I had speculated in the original post about the jump seater but did not know what airline the pilot was working for.
The AA pilot might have something to say about the dynamics going on up front but I suspect he/she will be pretty quiet. One does not want to damage the jump seat privileges for the future. The jump seater may have not been paying much attention since they were not in control of the aircraft considering the 10K sterile cockpit rule.

Have you ever jumpseated in the cockpit of a B737 ?
It's a tiny, very cramped cockpit.

It's impossible to not pay attention, you are literally inches from the Pilots, 'up close and personal' would be an understatement !


As to whether this jumpseater will or has spoken to the NTSB, that would be up to him or her but believe me, consideration of jumpseat privileges will not be a factor.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:53 pm

Quoting okie (Reply 16):
I wonder if he was considered crew or passenger as the crew/passenger injuries do not line up the best I can tell.

No the numbers line up perfectly----the a/c had 143 seats (yes it was an evolve a/c) and all seats were filled with 1 lap child and that makes 144 plus the AA jump seat pilot makes the reported 145 passengers plus the 5 SWA crew. Jump seat pilots are never counted as crew even if they work for the same airline which in this case he did not.
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:47 pm

Assuming that the aircraft is indeed a write-off, what will happen to it? Will it be made flyable and flown to one of the aircraft "graveyards" in the southwest, or will it be cut up on-site? If the latter, who will do the work (I doubt WN has the staff at LGA)?
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:52 pm

Quoting PROSA (Reply 21):
Assuming that the aircraft is indeed a write-off, what will happen to it? Will it be made flyable and flown to one of the aircraft "graveyards" in the southwest, or will it be cut up on-site

If it is DBER it will be cutup at LGA----if they make it flyable again then it would return to service
 
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:52 pm

Quoting PROSA (Reply 21):
or will it be cut up on-site?

Yes. Without a doubt.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:44 am

Quoting n471wn (Reply 22):
If it is DBER it will be cutup at LGA----if they make it flyable again then it would return to service

Aircraft must be very different from automobiles. A third or more of the cars that are determined to be total losses after wrecks and are sent to junkyards are driveable, or would be driveable but for easily repairable issues such as holed radiators.
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RE: Has The Repair Of SWA N753SW Started?

Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:42 am

Quoting PROSA (Reply 24):
Aircraft must be very different from automobiles.

When was the last time you saw a car traveling at 500 mph at 40,000 feet?  

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