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Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:24 pm

Yahoo News reported on the plight of Goussainville-Vieux west of the CDG flight path and how it is deserted due to the airport. The article shows pictures of the town as it was in the early 1900s and now and implies that the TU-144 crash was the truning point that started the exodus from the town.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/french-...o-miles-away-1379933487-slideshow/

We had good discussions on Palisades del Rey, the LAX Ghost Town and I read this Yahoo article thinking this was a similiar occurance. Instead, the article looks like it shows very selected photos and accounts of the few remaining residents that tend to lay more blame on CDG than is possibly deserved.

It looks like Goussainville is about 7km from CDG which is close but not as close as we have seen near other airports. With current technology, I would believe that life in the town would be somewhat tollorable.

I admit that I do not know the area or the history of the town. Is the article correct in assigning blame to CDG or is this simply a case of a particular town in decline?

Thanks for any information you may have...
 
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:42 pm

Quoting txjim (Thread starter):
It looks like Goussainville is about 7km from CDG which is close but not as close as we have seen near other airports.

"A year later the Charles de Gaulle airport opened with its runways just two miles from the village."

Two miles make about 3.2 km, with today's traffic at CDG, even with modern high bypass engines and shorter take offs, 2 miles from the runways and all the noise that comes along is not something easy to cope with 24/7.
 
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:57 pm

The TU144 which crashed there , took off from Le Bourget , and had no connection with the now deserted Goussainville.
 
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:15 pm

The article is a bit biased and does not tell the whole truth. The French Wiki gives a more complete picture.

In short, the old city is in line with one of CDG runways. CDG authority (Aéroports de Paris) baught the houses from the owners who wished so and walled these premises. They could not be demolished because they are located close to a church listed as a historical monument (these French laws...). However some "diehards" still live there...

Meanwhile the city center have been shifted by a few kilometers.

Current population (in the "new town") is 30,000 inhabitants. It is connected to the centre of Paris by two train stations.



Wikipedia : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goussainville_(Val-d%27Oise)

The history of the city (also in French) : http://www.calameo.com/read/000251004e625bd00b0fd
 
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:20 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 1):
Two miles make about 3.2 km, with today's traffic at CDG, even with modern high bypass engines and shorter take offs, 2 miles from the runways and all the noise that comes along is not something easy to cope with 24/7.

There used to be a small town just east (about a mile or so) of ATL called Mountain View that in the late 1970s and into the 1980s was the target of land buy outs by the City Of Atlanta due to airport noise (Mountain View was a sketchy sort of town that had it's charter revoked in 1978 because of corruption with the mayor as well as opposition to the city selling beer and wine 24 hours a day [except Sunday] when at the time, Clayton County was a dry county [as were most of the cities in the county] and the city had a reputation for drunkenness and fighting.). Most of Mountain View was redeveloped into warehouses and office buildings, but a few long time businesses remain in the area. What was surprising is that many Mountain View residents did not want to leave and had to be forced out using eminent domain. Years earlier, there was a development right next to ATL on the southwest side of the airport that got bought up because of jet noise, but because the airport needed the land for expansion (Most of the current terminal as well as some of the concourse and the southern runways sit where the neighborhood was located.). Where I currently live used to be in the the flight path for ATL back when they had runways that ran northwest/southwest and northeast/southeast.
 
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:53 pm

Without the airport the town would probably be surrounded by urban sprawl by now, not by fields anymore. Last month it was another town, still inhabited, that made headlines because due to unusual winds it was getting much more noise from CDG than usual, and people complained. Of course most of them aren't even older than the airport.
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RE: Report: Goussainville-Vieux Deserted Due To CDG

Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:43 pm

On maps google you can see Goussainville (Le vieux village/ The old town) just below the railway line. Above the railway line is the "new" Goussainville. To the right you'll find CDG. The proximity between the old town and the airport is obvious.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=49.015469...546&spn=0.034282,0.055189&t=h&z=14

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