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Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:04 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation Fans,
If it feels like fall out there, it must be fall. I know summer is over and it is hard to believe.


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Let's start this months thread;
-As usual TK keeps announcing new cities. The latest one being Lahore.
-Still no news from the new Istanbul airport. If they can find the financing, when will they start the construction? Maybe mid 2014?
-Why is Sky getting rid of its 737-900s? Any ideas?
-Looking at departures at IST today I came across TK flying 2 flights to TLV and one to DEL with 77Ws, another one to TLV with a 333. Is TLV the number 1 destinations for TK now looking at seats offered?
-What is "31E" flying to MED?

Welcome and continue with your news, views, photos, rumors and good old sense of humor 

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:09 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
If it feels like fall out there, it must be fall. I know summer is over and it is hard to believe.

Indeed !

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-As usual TK keeps announcing new cities.

Any more news on IST-HAV ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:18 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Any more news on IST-HAV ?

I think long haul cities have to wait till TK gets more LH jets.
2 more 333s coming this year.
And AFAIK, 5 x 333s and 3 x 77Ws next year.
Boston is the only LH route announced so far for 2014. The rest of these LH jets could be used to increase freqs, or we might see HAV+MEX or other N.American cities next year.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:26 pm

Still waiting on TK to resume IST-MIA....

12 years later...      

Btw... I found this petition to "Support Turkish Airlines Nonstop Flights From Miami-Istanbul/Istanbul-Miami"
http://www.petitiononline.com/Istanbul/petition.html
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:08 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Why is Sky getting rid of its 737-900s? Any ideas?

I don't know why a bankrupt company would hold on to it's aircraft(s). Except for Kingfisher, I believe most airlines returns their aircraft once they go belly up or did I miss something??  
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:17 pm

Quoting cuban8 (Reply 4):
I believe most airlines returns their aircraft once they go belly up or did I miss something??

My mistake, I thought they were still around.
I would have expected maybe TK to take up their 739ERs.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:30 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Looking at departures at IST today I came across TK flying 2 flights to TLV and one to DEL with 77Ws, another one to TLV with a 333. Is TLV the number 1 destinations for TK now looking at seats offered?

It is certainly very impressive. The last couple of days many of the flights were completely sold out.
No wonder that they are flying up to 8 times daily now, some of them at very odd timings with arrival around 3 am in ISTproviding no obvious connectivity.

[Edited 2013-09-30 15:31:27]

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:24 am

Welcome to the fall everyone !


I read an in depth story about Turkish Technic's large HABOM maintenance venture at SAW. TK Technic is now considered the 10th largest MRO globally.

The HABOM project which experienced several changes including failed joined venture with ST Aerospace of Singapore, and need to scale up things further due to TK's phenomenal growth in recent years has meant the venture now has reduced opportunity for 3rd party work. This apparently was the reason behind TK's purchase of MNG Technic at IST to gain back the lost 3rd party capacity.

TK Technic HABOM facilities have been built around GE's six-sigma lean process and layout. Newly opened narrow body hangars can handle 6 A320/737 family aircraft for heavier checks, and 5 A320/737 aircraft for lighter shorter visits.
Additional set of hangars is scheduled to open in March 2014 and will handle up to 4 777/A340s. Additionally a new paint hangar will accomodate either 2 narrow bodies or 1 widebody.

The buildings also are first of a kind in Turkey receiving Gold Certification for being a green buildings for their environmental and energy design.

With HABOM coming fully online, and MNG facilities having joined the family, TK Technic will pursue dual pronged approach. SAW and MNG hangars with their lower operating and labor cost base will focus on labor intensive heavy checks, while the main IST base will focus on higher value engineering and component projects.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-What is "31E" flying to MED?

Sounds like leased in capacity for the Hajj
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:47 am

Can anyone please give information about BoraJet's flights from Ankara to Sochi that became quite frequent recently. Are those charter flights if so for whom???

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:26 am

Due to problems in countries like Egypt and others at N.Africa and M.East, AYT and similar destinations in South Coast received record number of tourists during September. On top of this, during October there will be Eid Holidays where all hotels in that region is totally sold out with additional tourists coming from Azerbaijan, C.Asia, Iran and Russia. Considering the additional Hajj flights, we can expect another strong record month for Turkish Aviation during October 2013.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:58 pm

"Looking at departures at IST today I came across TK flying 2 flights to TLV and one to DEL with 77Ws"

I spoke to one of the Jet Airways representatives at THY Technic on Friday. He said that one of their three 773s leased to TK will now be put on the IST-TLV route due to demand.

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:21 pm

Quoting TK773 (Reply 10):
I spoke to one of the Jet Airways representatives at THY Technic on Friday. He said that one of their three 773s leased to TK will now be put on the IST-TLV route due to demand.

Wow!
The 2 x IST-TLV flights I posted about was on TK's own 77Ws.
Jet 773s, listed as 77A ,flew BKK, LHR, IAD, DAC.. Now TLV, would be nice to be in those F seats.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:20 pm

Over the last few years, TK has been operating A330 freighters, and despite the gloomy global cargo market, recently accepted another frame.

My questions are:

1 - What is the nature of the air freight market in Turkey and what is driving the growth?

2 - Are there any signs of cargo air shipments in and out of Turkey abating?

3 - What are TK's impressions of the A330F?

4 - Is TK likely to order more freighters or will they lease capacity when needed via ACMI partnerships with MNG and Atlas etc?

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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:45 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 11):
Wow!
The 2 x IST-TLV flights I posted about was on TK's own 77Ws.
Jet 773s, listed as 77A ,flew BKK, LHR, IAD, DAC.. Now TLV, would be nice to be in those F seats.

Wow! DAC received the 77As too? That's incredible!  

Anyway to know how many times or how frequent? I hope it's due to market demands and not just aircraft switching. Regardless of the reason, I hope the trend continues ... I don't want to fly those Meridiana 332s.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:01 am

Quoting ChaosTheory (Reply 12):
1 - What is the nature of the air freight market in Turkey and what is driving the growth?

Well just as the passenger network grows, especially longhaul fleet its natural the freight side grows also.

TK views cargo more holistically and looks to do with cargo what it does with passengers by providing a geographic cargo bridge. Cargo decision often come hand with passenger network growth.

For example just to handle the added transit freight, TK only last week opened a new warehouse at IST.

Quoting ChaosTheory (Reply 12):
2 - Are there any signs of cargo air shipments in and out of Turkey abating?

Frankly air freight in Turkey is rather small. Being at the door of Europe and broader Mid-East bulk of Turkish trade comes and goes very cheaply and quickly on trucks, and ships to slightly a lesser degree.

Only high valuable or items sensitive traffic lends itself to air freight regionally. Of Turkey's trade less than 10% utilized air.

Quoting ChaosTheory (Reply 12):
3 - What are TK's impressions of the A330F?

From comments made to me, the A330F size (and thus revenue capability) allows routes that could never cover their cost on the A310F work.
Also their increased range is beneficial and helps avoid double stops on longer distance routes such to the Far-East.

Quoting ChaosTheory (Reply 12):
4 - Is TK likely to order more freighters or will they lease capacity when needed via ACMI partnerships with MNG and Atlas etc?

Probably a mix of both. TK likes to own aircraft as there are financial benefits, but leasing in supplemental capacity helps with growth and lessen commercial risk if things don't work.
Also remember TK came extremely close to acquiring 2 777Fs a couple years back. Imo its a matter of time, before they go bigger than the A330F.
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:08 am

Quoting TK773 (Reply 10):
He said that one of their three 773s leased to TK will now be put on the IST-TLV route due to demand.

I am having difficulties to understand why TK would promote such a route with high demands. You can buy 99 euro round-trip IST-TLV tickets on their website. The promotion is not limited to a certain flight, covers a long period of time and it is still available.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:02 pm

Quoting NuD38 (Reply 15):
I am having difficulties to understand why TK would promote such a route with high demands. You can buy 99 euro round-trip IST-TLV tickets on their website. The promotion is not limited to a certain flight, covers a long period of time and it is still available.

The reason might be that the vast majority travels not to Turkey, but are transfer passengers.
So the transfer passenger market is covered well. However, tourist visiting Turkey dropped remarkably in the last years due to political issues. This might be seen as an attempt to get more tourists to visit the country.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:38 pm

Quoting NuD38 (Reply 15):
I am having difficulties to understand why TK would promote such a route with high demands. You can buy 99 euro round-trip IST-TLV tickets on their website. The promotion is not limited to a certain flight, covers a long period of time and it is still available.

I don't think you should think of this as point-to-point demand. I'm sure most people using this route from TLV are connecting on to feeder flights beyond Istanbul.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:41 pm

Quoting TK773 (Reply 17):
The reason might be that the vast majority travels not to Turkey, but are transfer passengers.
So the transfer passenger market is covered well.

You beat me to it!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:06 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 16):
tourist visiting Turkey dropped remarkably in the last years due to political issues.

Actually, this summer it is up.
30,000 just in August alone. Sure nowhere near the numbers before the flotilla incident. (330,000 total in 2009)

http://www.dunya.com/israilli-turist...stosta-yuzde-157-artti-203752h.htm (in Turkish)
and more
http://kokpit.aero/thy-en-buyuk-yabanci-havayolu (in Turkish)

[Edited 2013-10-02 06:41:43]
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:59 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 11):

Actually it is not that simple.

Operation flights with wet leased frames subject to prior approval from opposite countyr. I highy doubt TK has such appoval for many countries.* Because of this they trying lease format to "dry" You may see this month at least three DAC flights with 777 but all of them will be TK's own metal.

* If you remember when TK first lease JET's birds, they did not have such appoval. Because of this 4 frames used very limited destinations even they advertised for JFK.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:05 am

Seems that Turkey has been able get a increase in the number of frequencies to Canada.
New bilateral allows up to 9 weekly frequencies per week.
However, it has not been made official on the web page of SGHM (turkish authority for aviation).

It is now official on their twitter account!!!
https://twitter.com/SHGM

That is amazing news, seems that Montreal has been added too, impressive.

[Edited 2013-10-03 01:37:36]
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:37 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 21):

Wow. Wonder if they will go up to daily on YYZ or do 6x YYZ and 3x YUL?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:45 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 21):



That's great news does any here know or think how TK will serve these two cities ?
My guess 5 YYZ and 4 YUL rather then 7 YYZ and only 2 YUL, If and when it happens
i'm thinking sometime in 2014 ?
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:22 pm

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 23):
My guess 5 YYZ and 4 YUL rather then 7 YYZ and only 2 YUL, If and when it happens
i'm thinking sometime in 2014 ?

I have also the same feeling, especially considering the fact that there are already lots of links to the Mid East from YYZ. TK might find quite a high yielding market from YUL, since there is no competition as far as I am concerned.
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:32 pm

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 23):
That's great news does any here know or think how TK will serve these two cities ?
My guess 5 YYZ and 4 YUL rather then 7 YYZ and only 2 YUL, If and when it happens
i'm thinking sometime in 2014 ?

I guess as soon they can find available aircraft. I know a lot of people in Montreal waiting TK's service, this city pairs will be great success from day one...
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:36 pm

Quoting MeCe (Reply 25):
I guess as soon they can find available aircraft. I know a lot of people in Montreal waiting TK's service, this city pairs will be great success from day one...

There might be some short term leases of 777s again soon. I wonder whether TK can utilize all the rights recently granted (Japan, Pakistan, South America and on top of that Canada now)
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:40 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 24):
TK might find quite a high yielding market from YUL, since there is no competition as far as I am concerned.

YUL will yield lower than YYZ. Its not a matter of competition, but nature of market.

YUL has much higher ethnic flow traffic to places like Maghreb, Africa and broader MidEast. YYZ is more well developed traffic market mix with a fair volume of premium demand as well.
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:58 pm

I am also excited with the additional traffic rights to Canada. Let's see when they will be allowed for 14w.

News on airlineroute:
IAH goes daily from 30 March 2014
BOS will be served by A343 instead of A332
JFK 21w again from 30 March 2014
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:10 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 21):

Seems that Turkey has been able get a increase in the number of frequencies to Canada.
New bilateral allows up to 9 weekly frequencies per week.
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 22):
Wow. Wonder if they will go up to daily on YYZ or do 6x YYZ and 3x YUL?

wow - awesome news! Good job TK! my friends and family in YUL/YOW area will be really happy!

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 23):
That's great news does any here know or think how TK will serve these two cities ?
My guess 5 YYZ and 4 YUL rather then 7 YYZ and only 2 YUL, If and when it happens
i'm thinking sometime in 2014 ?

either 5+4 or 6+3 .... YYZ/YUL ... my guess is the latter! 6x YYZ and 3x YUL. let's see 
Quoting MeCe (Reply 25):
I guess as soon they can find available aircraft. I know a lot of people in Montreal waiting TK's service, this city pairs will be great success from day one...

i think so too ... QR goes almost full from YUL every flight. TK provides a much better connection to the Levant and some of the Maghreb points from IST (than QR). Let's hope the success will prompt more frequencies in the future.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:27 pm

A nice commercial from TK;
https://vimeo.com/76127038
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 28):
BOS will be served by A343 instead of A332

It was supposed to be A333.

This means less seats overall (20 or so) but more business class seats will be available. Did TK decide to put the biggest fuel-hog on the shortest transatlantic route or did they want more premium seats on BOS-IST?
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:12 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 30):
A nice commercial from TK;
https://vimeo.com/76127038

Yes, but I can not find the Turkish Salt & Pepper any more in this commercial that used to be in Alametifarika videos.

I suppose Alametifarika is too political for TK management to tolerate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpIe1oi-bo
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:19 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 31):
It was supposed to be A333.

This means less seats overall (20 or so) but more business class seats will be available. Did TK decide to put the biggest fuel-hog on the shortest transatlantic route or did they want more premium seats on BOS-IST?

Many many months till the service starts, from past experience we know TK can change the type of the plane, sometimes a day in advance. So, I wouldn't be worried. BOS will get a mix of 332/333/343 to start with.
 
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:06 pm

Any news on TK's intended SYD service ??
Thought I saw a thread here on a-net recently that SYD was announced.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:11 am

Quoting TC957 (Reply 34):
SYD was announced.

AFAIK (nonstop) never announced. Even if TK got the right jet for it, I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
Too much competition, not enough money, way too long of a flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:29 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 30):
A nice commercial from TK;
https://vimeo.com/76127038

This new commercial is ok. However, it is a copycat of the any of the airlines that gives commercials to CNN. You know, open up CNN or another news channel and all airline commercials are similarly themed and colored.

There is absolutely nothing Turkish about the commercial. Watching the commercial without knowing it is a Turkish Airlines commercial, doesn't make you think of Turkish Airlines and guessing it (remember the previous ones, like the Istiklal Marsi or the African one). That is the most powerful thing a commercial can do to your brand. And that's what Alametifarika did to TK.

Their ads were interesting, fun to watch, and created a strong brand image, none of which is present in the new commercial. That is precisely why Alametifarika is No 1. Too bad for TK  
Quoting TK105 (Reply 32):
Yes, but I can not find the Turkish Salt & Pepper any more in this commercial that used to be in Alametifarika videos.

Exactly, exactly, exactly! That is exactly what made it very interesting for non-Turkish people abroad.
 
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Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:38 am

I know IST - SYD won't be nonstop, thought they were looking at KUL as the stop point ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:18 pm

Flew LAX-IST on Comfort Class. The ad on check in was $330 , I was charged 440.
The whole check in process is horrendous in LAX. I was told that i could pay for my ticket change during check in. The wait for the reticket was about 15-20 minutes per pax. There was a guy that wanted to upgrade from economy to business by paying 1800. He had to wait in line for 20 minutes or so..

You wait that long on the ticket purchase line and then you get on a different line for the check in. This is not something you should experience while "flying Europe's best" .

The flight was about 2 hours late. No announcement at all..

Once on board, the service was great. The Comfort Class is awesome. The seats are like the old United Business seats that I used to fly on many years ago..
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:59 pm

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
The ad on check in was $330 , I was charged 440.

What is the explanation for that? I paid $330 at JFK last.

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
You wait that long on the ticket purchase line and then you get on a different line for the check in.

Yeah, that is not cool. Sometimes they have a seperate Comfort Class checkin, not the norm though.

But these are some of the reasons, more and more I hate to fly. Most of my flying is for business and I hate it. I recently got the "Global Entry" card, it helps a bit. But all in all I really don't enjoy the airport experience. I don't know how you deal with it being a pilot.
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:38 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 39):
But all in all I really don't enjoy the airport experience.

Welcome to the airport haters club.   

The more you fly, further you hate it. Especially if you have a domestic-international transfer at IST...
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:16 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 40):
Especially if you have a domestic-international transfer at IST...

I have never done that, probably never will.
What is so terrible about it?
Good thing I only fly about 40 times a year, mostly long haul (Avg. 6 hours/flight) and I have done transfers at CDG, FCO, MXP that were all pretty bad.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:39 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 34):
Any news on TK's intended SYD service ??
Thought I saw a thread here on a-net recently that SYD was announced.

One needs to learn what the phases of TK route announcements are:

1) TK executives will often publicly make comments, about their dreams, etc. This is general talk. Might happen, or might never happen.
2) Once things formalize and TK truly has intention to operate a route, it must comply with Istanbul stock exchange requirements and make regulatory filing to such effect. Route now likely will be launched within next year.
3) Once all approvals and regulatory requirements are met, the route gets loaded in GDS, and a formal public relations announcement is made.

To my knowledge Australia has never made it beyond stage 1. TK does hold traffic rights already, but they have yet to formalize such plans.

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
Flew LAX-IST on Comfort Class. The ad on check in was $330 , I was charged 440.

If $330 was stated and you were charged incorrectly, complain. PM/email me and I'll fwd you contacts for the local TK management.

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
The whole check in process is horrendous in LAX. I was told that i could pay for my ticket change during check in. The wait for the reticket was about 15-20 minutes per pax. There was a guy that wanted to upgrade from economy to business by paying 1800. He had to wait in line for 20 minutes or so..

Unfortunately the manner TK runs the operation here is that they have their ground handling vendor solely providing the check-in service, with TK own staff handling ticketing, and any fee collection. This forces passenger to have to get in a second queue to see the TK employee if their transactions require changes, or payment.

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
Once on board, the service was great. The Comfort Class is awesome. The seats are like the old United Business seats that I used to fly on many years ago..

Its a gem of a product for the price imo..
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:05 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 28):
I am also excited with the additional traffic rights to Canada. Let's see when they will be allowed for 14w.

New bilateral will be valid from 30 March onwards.
Quite some time for TK to think about leasing some additional aircraft or postpone the launch of Boston and go for an increase in Canada instead.
 
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:31 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 43):
Quite some time for TK to think about leasing some additional aircraft or postpone the launch of Boston and go for an increase in Canada instead.

There is plenty of additional wide body capacity on the way that should make both the launch of Boston, four additional Canada capacities as well as a number of other longhaul priorities easy enough to accommodate.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:51 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 44):
There is plenty of additional wide body capacity on the way that should make both the launch of Boston, four additional Canada capacities as well as a number of other longhaul priorities easy enough to accommodate.

What was the number and date of A330s and 777s coming in 2014?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:13 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 45):

2 333 this year, 5 333 and 3 77W next year. 8 333 and 7 77W in 2015, 5 333 and 6 77W in 2016 and last 4 77W in 2017. Add to that the 2 332 that were leased.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:39 am

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 46):
2 333 this year

I assume the Meridiana bird will be leaving the fleet soon (hopefully).
Any information on the leased 3 A332s with respect to delivery time?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:32 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 46):
2 333 this year, 5 333 and 3 77W next year. 8 333 and 7 77W in 2015, 5 333 and 6 77W in 2016 and last 4 77W in 2017.

Man ... just mind boggling. Visiting IST in 2015 will be like a theater parking lot on friday night 

There will be plenty widebodies to upgauge many existing routes and starting long haul routes ...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation October 2013

Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:16 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 28):
JFK 21w again from 30 March 2014

I just looked at the details and only 12 of the 21 flights will be on 77W next summer.
This year it was 14.
Late night flight, TK 12 out of JFK, on Mondays and Saturdays will be on 333 as well.

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