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LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:13 pm

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/t...a-5aec-55aa-b012-1bd858b89827.html

They have been bringing 733/5 aircraft here to scrap for some time, this will be quite a sight to see as TUL hasn't had a 744 visit in probably several years. They are using the old Omni ramp to the north of 08/26 next to their facility. I'll try to snag some pics through the fence once the first one arrives. Last time I was out there they were working on three WFU 737 classics and an NH A320. OY used the same ramp to strip and break up the exNW DC10's several years ago.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:11 am

I had no idea LH Technik had a facility in Tulsa.
 
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Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:42 am

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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:40 am

Does anyone know which Lufthansa 747 is the next to be sent to the scrapper?
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:55 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 3):
Does anyone know which Lufthansa 747 is the next to be sent to the scrapper?

That should be D-ABVE tomorrow, according to http://www.lh-taufnamen.de/.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:05 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 3):
Does anyone know which Lufthansa 747 is the next to be sent to the scrapper?

According to this source:

http://www.lh-taufnamen.de/

D-ABVE will make its final flight per tomorrow.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:30 am

Europe doesn't have any scrapping facilities?
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 am

Quoting SQ22 (Reply 5):
D-ABVE will make its final flight per tomorrow.

Thanks, I wonder why its going to Tulsa, and not Tupelo like all her older sisters except one.
By the end of this winter two more 744s will have left the fleet and 1/3 of LHs 744 fleet will be gone. Btw, another LH 737 went to Tulsa this week also. This winter LHs 737 fleet will be reduced by another half dozen at least, down to less than half of what it was in 2011.

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 6):
Europe doesn't have any scrapping facilities?

There are some in England (Kemble/Cotswolds, Manston/Kent and others) and France (Chateauroux and I think, Lourdes).
Nothing really in Germany although LH scrapped two 742s at Hahn back in 2001.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 am

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 6):
Europe doesn't have any scrapping facilities?

Kemble, in the UK.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:19 am

It is better to scrap airplanes at locations where the weather conditions are dry and warm. This way you can take 'your time' for scrapping under the clear sky w/o the need to eventually build facilities.
South of Spain could be potential European areas for such scrap yards, however still by far not as good as the locations in the US.

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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:36 pm

Quoting flyglobal (Reply 9):

It is better to scrap airplanes at locations where the weather conditions are dry and warm.

Tulsa?? Dry and warm?? Ha! It may get hot there in the summer, but that's the extent of it. Its late springs and summers, when not in drought, are full of thunderstorms and sporadic rainfall, absorbed by the grass and loved by chiggers and insects flying about in normally muggy conditions. There is dew outside on most mornings in Spring and Fall, and while winter is much drier, it can snow at times with some humidity and winds present through December. I would say LH is bringing the plane in for scrap due to the aerospace industrial complex still present at TUL that can make use of the parts. I wonder how visible the LH tail will be? For years, AZ had some srcap planes sitting around at TUL, and you could make out the AZ tails if you looked at just the right angle. That always made me want to go jump on an AZ plane and get to the Mediterranean ASAP.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:37 pm

There is a scapper near Bremen (Lemwerder?), who is specialised on Airbuses though. A lot of A300s went through this place to get scrapped.

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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:12 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11):
There is a scapper near Bremen (Lemwerder?), who is specialised on Airbuses though. A lot of A300s went through this place to get scrapped.

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Lemwerder is now closed as an airfield, as far as I am aware. The site is now a factory for wind turbines.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:54 pm

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 10):
Tulsa?? Dry and warm?? Ha! It may get hot there in the summer, but that's the extent of it. Its late springs and summers, when not in drought, are full of thunderstorms and sporadic rainfall, absorbed by the grass and loved by chiggers and insects flying about in normally muggy conditions. There is dew outside on most mornings in Spring and Fall, and while winter is much drier, it can snow at times with some humidity and winds present through December.

My thoughts exactly. If they were looking for dry/warm...they are about a month too late. We are entering our second storm season and a traditionally damp/wet season as well. Heck next few days we'll probably pick up 3-5 inches of rain over the state.

If they wanted dry/warm...you go to Arizona or New Mexico.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:11 pm

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 10):
Tulsa?? Dry and warm??
Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 13):
My thoughts exactly. If they were looking for dry/warm

Agreed.. Dry and warm is not how I would classify this part of the country for the next few months.... but an LH 744 landing at Tulsa would be a great sight... I get excited anytime I see a mainline plane here at XNA.
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:33 pm

Airbus/EADS has been helping building capacity and technology for "deconstructing" airplanes at Tarbes-Lourdes called project PAMELA, it's ramping up.
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:19 pm

Quoting cactus739 (Reply 14):
Agreed.. Dry and warm is not how I would classify this part of the country for the next few months.... but an LH 744 landing at Tulsa would be a great sight... I get excited anytime I see a mainline plane here at XNA.

Definitely. Though something other than an AA paint scheme would be nice up there.  

Though I still get a kick out of seeing 15 diversions in here (OKC) when DFW backs up. Heck I'm slightly amused seeing the Go! CRJ sitting on the AAR storage ramp right now...a little far from home.  
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:24 pm

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 16):
Definitely. Though something other than an AA paint scheme would be nice up there.  

Though I still get a kick out of seeing 15 diversions in here (OKC) when DFW backs up. Heck I'm slightly amused seeing the Go! CRJ sitting on the AAR storage ramp right now...a little far from home.  

At least TUL gets the occasional VI AN-124 to take the G-280 wing shipset to IAI in TLV.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:56 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11):
There is a scapper near Bremen (Lemwerder?), who is specialised on Airbuses though. A lot of A300s went through this place to get scrapped.

That´s the former ASL facility, closed since some years. Now owned by SGL Rotec, which uses the hangars for its rotor blade moulds (blades are up to 60 m long...). The runwy is still existing though...

There was an idea to set up an aircraft service and scrapping company in Ahlhorn nearby, but I understand that this didn´t go anywhere.

IMO the facilities are still sub-optimal. IMO the best fit for such a facility would be an airport with access to the (cargo) railway network as well as waterways to be able to ship the scrap and large spare parts. Nobody has (as of yet) really though through the logistics costs "at the end"...
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:58 am

D-ABVE has begun her final flight, enroute to TUL to meet her fate.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DABVE
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:15 pm

Gonna head out to grab a shot of the landing. Is this the first LH 744 to be scrapped? I know here, but fleet-wise?
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:20 pm

It's still a shame to see modern aircraft like this get scrapped already. It could've continued flying as cargo....
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:33 pm

No, there have been several at Tupelo.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 20):
Gonna head out to grab a shot of the landing. Is this the first LH 744 to be scrapped? I know here, but fleet-wise?

No, D-ABVA, VB, and a few others have been scrapped.

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 21):
It's still a shame to see modern aircraft like this get scrapped already. It could've continued flying as cargo....

She's got >100k hours over 20+ years, I'd say that's a decent lifespan.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:05 pm

Just curious, when aircraft fly to their doom like this are they stripped on the inside before they head to the scrapman? In other words I would imagine the galley carts are removed but what about seats, video monitors, etc? Sad to see another B744 being chopped up  
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:44 pm

Quoting LH707330 (Reply 23):
She's got >100k hours over 20+ years, I'd say that's a decent lifespan.

Close to 120.000 hours even, a very high "mileage" indeed. These old LH 744s were worth every penny paid for.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:54 pm

Quoting na (Reply 25):
Close to 120.000 hours even, a very high "mileage" indeed. These old LH 744s were worth every penny paid for.

I would have put my chips on120 as a closest number, but went with ">100" to prevent someone coming along and saying "well it's actually only 109,756..."  
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:02 pm

I have a figure of 116,845 Hrs and 14,306 Cycles.

I do not recall the source, but it was probably on this site.
 
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RE: LH Bringing 744 To TUL To Scrap

Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:32 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 4):
That should be D-ABVE tomorrow
Quoting LH422 (Reply 4):
D-ABVE will make its final flight per tomorrow.

Thankyou.

Does anyone have an idea of how much longer D-ABVK has in service (fourth oldest 747-400 at Lufthansa)?
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