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US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:47 am

US Airways has uploaded a new schedule for its operations at GRU.

Effective March 11th 2013:

US802 762 CLT 2250 GRU 0930+1
US803 762 GRU 0230 CLT 1140
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:08 am

Not bad . Kind of a late arrival into CLT for connections but I we'll take it !
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:29 pm

Oops, I meant March 2014.
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:58 pm

The plane sits on the tarmac for 19 hours???
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:09 pm

I don't know that those times are necessarily better. Since basically no one is ending their journey in CLT, passengers are still loosing a whole day at their US destination after you add in connection time. It needs to arrive CLT around 6AM or it is still basically worthless...
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:53 pm

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
The plane sits on the tarmac for 19 hours???

17 hours, actually.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 4):
I don't know that those times are necessarily better. Since basically no one is ending their journey in CLT, passengers are still loosing a whole day at their US destination after you add in connection time. It needs to arrive CLT around 6AM or it is still basically worthless...

Well, it does mean that US got a long-term parking position for the aircraft. Getting an earlier departure slot will be the easier part, since the opening of GRU's new terminal will increase the capacity of the airport. The restrictions there were in place because of the terminal, not the runways.
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:26 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3):
The plane sits on the tarmac for 19 hours???

17 hours, actually.

That seems pretty common at GRU. Why is that?
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:28 pm

A day light flight from Brazil is a day killer, but sometimes desirable. It's a good way to get a good night of sleep before work the next day; same as a 9am flight to London from the USA. AND, if it is in a good business class seat with food and IFE, it can be a way to take a break from a crazy work/travel schedule.

I haven't flown US in business in many years. And frankly, it wasn't that bad! I would imagine US is better these days??? It's not an airline where the word "premium" comes to mind. How is this service?
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:57 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):
I haven't flown US in business in many years. And frankly, it wasn't that bad! I would imagine US is better these days??? It's not an airline where the word "premium" comes to mind. How is this service?


Well, it depends during the winter months (Northern Hemisphere) US Airways puts an Airbus A330-200 on CLT-GRU so you would get to wonderful Envoy Suite: with the lie-flat seat, great IFE and generally a great aircraft! However, during the other months US puts a Boeing 767-200 on that route which, you get the angled lie-flat seat and a portable media player so not the best plane to fly on.

Catering in Envoy is great most of the time, the food is very good especially the steak if it is cooked right but very rarely the steak gets overcooked so it depends.

Staff on US is hit and miss, sometimes you get really friendly crew who are casual, their uniforms are perfect and are always in view: coming through the cabin every half an hour. I have 2 friends who are US cabin crew and they are really nice. But occasionally, they can be a bit rude and they look scruffy, their uniforms don't look the best either and they hide away behind the galley curtain.

Source: US Airways Gold Preferred Frequent Flyer, who flies US internationally ALOT!

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EDIT: Word missing from one of my sentences



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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:28 pm

Quoting AirbusGeek (Reply 8):
US Airways puts an Airbus A330-200 on CLT-GRU

I think you're confusing GRU and GIG. It's GIG that gets the 332.
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:36 pm

The slot time for the GRU arrival is much better, but I don't know if the GRU departure times are any better. You still almost waste half of a day traveling. How are the flights doing now with the GRU daylight?

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
17 hours, actually.

I wish US was able to tag on EZE or perhaps CNF during that time.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):
A day light flight from Brazil is a day killer, but sometimes desirable. It's a good way to get a good night of sleep before work the next day; same as a 9am flight to London from the USA. AND, if it is in a good business class seat with food and IFE, it can be a way to take a break from a crazy work/travel schedule.

Their A330 product is wonderful, has such a lovely seat.

Their 767 product isn't necessarily bad, its a little similar to AA's current J seat on the 767.

Catering wise, US is pretty good in J. Last I heard they served little caipirinhas as PDBs from GIG. IFE wise, the A330 has a better product.

I thought US would have placed the A332 on CLT-GRU by now. Wasn't that the plan in the DOT application?
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:57 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):
Their A330 product is wonderful, has such a lovely seat.

Their 767 product isn't necessarily bad, its a little similar to AA's current J seat on the 767.

Catering wise, US is pretty good in J. Last I heard they served little caipirinhas as PDBs from GIG. IFE wise, the A330 has a better product.

Yeah exactly what I said! It is amazing the Envoy Suite.


Quoting C010T3 (Reply 9):
Quoting AirbusGeek (Reply 8):
US Airways puts an Airbus A330-200 on CLT-GRU

I think you're confusing GRU and GIG. It's GIG that gets the 332.

Oppss! I think you're right, I haven't been able to find a 332 on the CLT-GRU on the US Airways website.
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Great news for US, happy to see them being able to be a little more competitive in South America. Of course with the old 767, they are gonna have to be price competitive.
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:13 pm

I would not call them better but different. You still are going to be travelling for an entire day plus more if you don't end in CLT and you still arrive in the middle of the night in GRU as well.
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:56 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Thread starter):
US803 762 GRU 0230 CLT 1140

If the plane arrives from CLT at 930 and sits in GRU all day,
why wouldn't US do something like GRU 2130 CLT 640? Seems
much better for sleeping as well as for connections in CLT.
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:03 am

Quoting bn747dfwhnl (Reply 14):
If the plane arrives from CLT at 930 and sits in GRU all day,
why wouldn't US do something like GRU 2130 CLT 640? Seems
much better for sleeping as well as for connections in CLT.

Because that's prime time at GRU, when the airport is bursting at the seams.
 
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:26 am

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):
I wish US was able to tag on EZE or perhaps CNF during that time.

Regardless of CNF or EZE or heck CPT (!) tag-on, getting a GRU take-off slot around 1030h-1100h might be tricky.
Northbound, there aren't major issues with a 0100-0130h landing.
Add to that, that there might not be frequencies available for U.S. airlines to Argentina.

GRU-CLT northbound 0230h departure seems quite awful, but as the last GRU-U.S. is sure to catch any passenger who missed the last U.S./Canada bound flights. IMHO, a 2030h GRU departure may seem more logical but right now US has to wait until if any slot is freed on that time-frame or earlier than 0230h.
17hours between arrival and departure mean the same US crew will fly back the aircraft they flew-in?
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:40 am

Quoting bn747dfwhnl (Reply 14):

It's up to the government to award slots.

US would absolutely fly that if they could.
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:02 am

These slots still aren't fantastic, but they are better. Their patience is paying off, and at some point I'm sure they will be able to pick up a more desirable slot.
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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:19 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 9):

Found an article saying they will put a A332 on the CLT-GRU in 2014, so I am guessing we'll see an A332 in March when the new slot timings come in to effect.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...chedules-with-new-aircraft-391455/

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EDIT: Had to complete a sentence, so it would make sense.

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RE: US Finally Gets Better Slots At GRU

Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:38 pm

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 10):

I went on line. It does look like a very nice suite. The blue is a bit bright, however at least it's not typical generic airline blue. I don't know if I will ever sit in one as I'm a slave to Star Alliance.
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