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Aerolineas Argentinas takes SQs oldest A340-500, LHs oldest A340-300 is going to scrapped.

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:33 pm

   WOAH!


Are they going to keep the same seating arrangement?
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:38 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Aerolineas Argentinas takes SQs oldest A340-500, LHs oldest A340-300 is going to scrapped.

What will they do with a single A345?
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:42 pm

The A340-500 is probably flying for AR to Sydney, Australia.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:54 pm

Yay! I can't wait to see a A345 in ARs livery!
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:08 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):

Aerolineas Argentinas takes SQs oldest A340-500

I'm confussed at a single example. Every C or D check means cancelled flights.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:17 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
What will they do with a single A345?
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
I'm confussed at a single example.

Presumably they will have more in the fleet as Singapore Airlines retires more of theirs.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
The A340-500 is probably flying for AR to Sydney, Australia.

One would think so. I hope they start flying to Auckland again. The A340-500 will look perfect in AR's colourscheme.

Quoting na (Thread starter):
LHs oldest A340-300 is going to scrapped.

 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:20 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
What will they do with a single A345?
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
I'm confussed at a single example. Every C or D check means cancelled flights.
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9V-SGA will be flying for the Argentinians, no information wether one more or even more A345s will follow. Who says it´ll be a single plane? At least one more frame sounds logical to me to serve a certain route reliably.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:28 pm

I hope they don't pay much for fuel at EZE.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:42 pm

If AR can fly more direct routes as ETOPS is not an issue, fuel burn may come out even compared to a twin. If they put 300 seats into the A345 then that might help its economics too?

Great to hear that the A345 is not retired from service yet.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:57 pm

Quoting na (Reply 7):
At least one more frame sounds logical to me to serve a certain route reliably.

SQ had a fleet of five to serve two specific routes - two for each route (given return flight > 24h) and a spare.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:31 pm

It's a long way from EZE to a lot of important destinations and I suspect the A345 is very cheap to acquire. With AR starting JFK this year they will probably be short of aircraft.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
The A340-500 is probably flying for AR to Sydney, Australia.

Or any city in Europe where the A342/332 is needed while getting a little bump in capacity and payload.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
I'm confussed at a single example. Every C or D check means cancelled flights.

No need for a cancelation. Just sub in an A342/A332 and take the payload hit if necessary.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:02 pm

The news banner on the Skyliner website shows:
'Aerolineas Argentinas to acquire all five former Singapore A340-500s to replace A340-200s_'.
So, AR apparently will acquire the complete SQ A340-500 fleet.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:05 pm

at least the A345s will still have a part to play for such long hauls as EZE BUE .
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:11 pm

Great to hear that the A340-500 won't be biting the dust for a few more years but I doubt this is going to help ARs financial situation.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:13 pm

Quoting hanuise (Reply 12):

That's awsome! But why on earth do they aquire an airframe that all other airlines want to get rid off or already phased out? Ok, they are VERY cheap to get, but VERY expensive to operate. Hope they can make money with it. All the best for AR, the A345 is the best looking bird around - and a quad  
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:35 pm

Does this have anything to do with this mystery A345 flying an odd path over the western US?
http://www.flightradar24.com/#./AIB1...uid=138297410461008255325523357273

Edit: Doesn't look like the link works, but flight # is AIB1102

[Edited 2013-10-28 09:39:17]
http://fr24.com/AIB1102




[Edited 2013-10-28 09:44:10]
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:11 pm

I always thought the A345 would work well for AR. Wonder why they didn't take the TG ones, as they were retired first ? Did TG want to many $$$ for them ? What happened to the deal to get the QR A346's that was mentioned here a while ago ?
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:39 pm

Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
Ok, they are VERY cheap to get, but VERY expensive to operate.

EZE-SYD or EZE-AKL is not exactly cheap with a twin, given necessary diversions.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:42 pm

Quoting na (Reply 7):
At least one more frame sounds logical to me to serve a certain route reliably.
Quoting zkojq (Reply 6):
Presumably they will have more in the fleet as Singapore Airlines retires more of theirs.

I assume so, but with today's resale prices of A345s, I think they will buy a 2nd...

Quoting airbazar (Reply 11):
No need for a cancelation. Just sub in an A342/A332 and take the payload hit if necessary.

For the proposed route, the A342 could sub, but not the A332.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:58 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
What will they do with a single A345?

Four more will join the fleet.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:59 pm

Love the livery of Aerolinas and combined with the elegant lines of the A340-500 that truely will be the most beautiful aircraft around !!!
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:03 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 20):
http://www.americas-fr.com/tourisme/...r-aerolineas-argentinas-17756.html

Haven't read French in many years, but it looks like one of the 5 is msn 1102 which makes the answer to my question in Reply 16 a "yes"?
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:06 pm

Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
That's awsome! But why on earth do they aquire an airframe that all other airlines want to get rid off or already phased out?

AR is in a very special geographic position and they have very unique needs. What other plane do you have in mind that meet's AR's ETOPS constraints, very log routes (6,000+ nm), and offers commonality with the existing, relatively small fleet fleet of A330/340 aircraft?
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:33 pm

Very good news ! hope to see the new 345 on EZE-BCN route !
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:42 pm

I do not think this is accurate. The airline is in the process of acquiring A330-200s.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:44 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 9):
Great to hear that the A345 is not retired from service yet.
Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
Ok, they are VERY cheap to get, but VERY expensive to operate.

They're not the only airline taking second-hand A345 aircraft, Azerbaijan Airlines recently took 2 birds too.


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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:46 pm

Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
But why on earth do they aquire an airframe that all other airlines want to get rid off or already phased out? Ok, they are VERY cheap to get, but VERY expensive to operate. Hope they can make money with it.

First of all because they're dirt cheap to buy and second of all because making money is not on AR's task list. 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:51 pm

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 18):
EZE-SYD or EZE-AKL is not exactly cheap with a twin, given necessary diversions.

That and that AR has no ETOPS rating as it has never operated twins over water.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 20):
Four more will join the fleet.

  

Quoting TC957 (Reply 17):
What happened to the deal to get the QR A346's that was mentioned here a while ago ?

RR Total Care. That's what happened. :/

Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
That's awsome! But why on earth do they aquire an airframe that all other airlines want to get rid off or already phased out? Ok, they are VERY cheap to get, but VERY expensive to operate. Hope they can make money with it. All the best for AR, the A345 is the best looking bird around - and a quad

Looks like a myth though. Being able to operate fully, without restrictions will certainly offset the costs. The A340-200s and A340-300X are currently very limited in the SYD route.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:54 pm

Quoting zotan (Reply 25):
I do not think this is accurate. The airline is in the process of acquiring A330-200s.

It is accurate. 4 A330-200s have already been acquired. 4 A340-200s and 1 A340-300 (non X) will be replaced. They are in currently need of 5 A340-500.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:56 pm

If there was ever a route the 345 was meant for SYD-EZE is one of the them.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:57 pm

"VERY expensive" ... might compare old 4-hole apples to apples... higher CASM than a 744ER?
 
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Quoting TC957 (Reply 17):
Wonder why they didn't take the TG ones, as they were retired first ? Did TG want to many $$$ for them ?

Aerolineas was looking for 5 aircraft and TG has only 4 of them (of which 1 is used for government operations I believe). It's easier and cheaper to buy 5 aircraft from the same operator, in this case SQ.

I also understood TG is asking too much money for their A340s.
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Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
but VERY expensive to operate

I doubt they are significantly more expensive to operate (on a per seat basis) than the -200s they currently fly.
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Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 33):
I doubt they are significantly more expensive to operate (on a per seat basis) than the -200s they currently fly.

The trip cost might be higher but the a/c can hold more seats (= more revenue).
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:01 pm

Are the yields on EZE-SYD-EZE high enough to make it economically work? Sure it fits more seats, but still, its a niche aircraft and there are only a very few routes where the airline is able to make money with it. Great looking aircraft anyway!
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:26 pm

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 29):
It is accurate. 4 A330-200s have already been acquired. 4 A340-200s and 1 A340-300 (non X) will be replaced. They are in currently need of 5 A340-500.

How do you know that? It hasn't been reported anywhere else. Further, the airline has told the press several times that its future widebody strategy will be focused on A330s.

SYD is just one route of theirs, and is not at all profitable. I highly doubt they would take 5x A345s just for one route. Makes no sense.

Their most important long haul routes are EZE-MIA, EZE-MAD, EZE-BCN, and EZE-FCO. Competition flies 777s and A330s on those routes. No way AR could effectively compete with an A345.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:31 pm

Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
I hope they don't pay much for fuel at EZE.

I wouldn´t think so. I believe all fuels are controlled by the government so they´ll probably get some discounts. I´m not sure though.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 11):
With AR starting JFK this year they will probably be short of aircraft.

No. See:

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 29):
It is accurate. 4 A330-200s have already been acquired.

The JFK route is going to be flown by one of these.

Quoting txlbased (Reply 15):
That's awsome! But why on earth do they aquire an airframe that all other airlines want to get rid off or already phased out?

Because they are very cheap to acquire and AR can´t afford the interest rates it would be charged if it went for newer aircraft through financing.

Quoting txlbased (Reply 35):
Are the yields on EZE-SYD-EZE high enough to make it economically work?

I seem to remember that next to EZE-MAD, EZE-SYD route is the busiest one for them.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:41 pm

Everything with AR doesn't seem to make sense but on the positive side it's 1 less A345 looking for a home.

Hopefully they order an additional frame as 1 frame doesn't sound financially viable.

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:44 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 38):
Hopefully they order an additional frame as 1 frame doesn't sound financially viable.

Another 4 aircraft are scheduled to join the fleet.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:47 pm

With all of the currency restrictions, how is AR going to pay for these aircraft?
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:01 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 26):
They're not the only airline taking second-hand A345 aircraft, Azerbaijan Airlines recently took2 birds too.

Those were undelivered rather than used though. I understand Emirates' former A6-ERF is currently being scrapped, that's the first one gone.
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:17 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 41):
Those were undelivered rather than used though.

That's right, they were never taken up by Kingfisher. Still, I expect the price was not too high.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:21 pm

Quoting 4holer (Reply 22):
Haven't read French in many years, but it looks like one of the 5 is msn 1102 which makes the answer to my question in Reply 16 a "yes"?

Per skyliner-aviation.de, Aerolineas will take all 5 SQ A345 aircraft:

> MSN 478 (9V-SGC)
> MSN 492 (9V-SGA)
> MSN 499 (9V-SGB)
> MSN 560 (9V-SGD)
> MSN 563 (9V-SGE)

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Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:37 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 32):
It's easier and cheaper to buy 5 aircraft from the same operator, in this case SQ.

Actually I think that AR will/has bought these a/c from airbus, because SQ traded them in for A350 that they have on order
 
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On a six hour mission the A340-500 will burn about 3 metric tons of fuel less than a B777-300ER, both of them being fully loaded (meaning all positions in it's lower deck occupied, with average loaded pallets and containers), with the B777 about 17.000 kg underload on MTOW and the A340-500 about 12.000 kg underload on MTOW. So the A340-500 burns a bit less fuel than a B777-300ER, with the 77W taking way more payload and pax. On the other hand, if you can only fill the A340-500 just about, why operate a B777-300ER? The 345 makes sense if a 77W is too big, but then again, a 772 might do the job better again. So in the end it may be about ETOPS or plain money on the frame.
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:48 pm

Does this mean AR will replace the A343 to MEX? I hope we can see the A345 at MEX! It makes sense for MEX due to the high altitude. I think the A332 will make it, JJ flies MEX-GRU with the A332 but do they take any restrictions?
 
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:50 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 20):
Four more will join the fleet.

http://www.americas-fr.com/tourisme/....html

That is what I thought. They will have a nice fleet of A345s.
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Reply 35, posted Mon Oct 28 2013 05:01:43 your local time (2 hours 40 minutes 32 secs ago) and read 3411 times:

Are the yields on EZE-SYD-EZE high enough to make it economically work? Sure it fits more seats, but still, its a niche aircraft and there are only a very few routes where the airline is able to make money with it. Great looking aircraft anyway!


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Does this mean AR will replace the A343 to MEX?

HOw long have they been flying to MEX?

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