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Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:16 am

If we can believe the OAG Japan Air lines was flying 707s in 1967 within Japan-- to Fukuoka, Osaka, and Sapporo. If that's true, what kind were they, how many, where'd they get them, how long did they have them?
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:20 am

Likely an error. Can't recall JL operating 707s, even as short-term leases etc.
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:10 pm

It sounds like it may have been a misprint, as in 1967, JAL was flying B727s to domestic Japanese destinations.

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It has happened in the past. When I was a young lad, I recall seeing that a domestic Canadian airline was flying Comet 4s from YVR to interior BC. (I was a nerd that subscribed to the OAG). Imagine my disappointment to find it was a misprint, and it was in fact a Beaver!
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:47 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 1):
Likely an error. Can't recall JL operating 707s, even as short-term leases etc.

Definitely an error. JAL flew DC-8s. I believe that they retired their last DC-8 in the early 80s. They also flew 727s like longhauler shows so the error you saw must have been a typo, 707 was probably supposed to be 727. JAL never flew 707s and neither did ANA.
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:59 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 2):
JAL was flying B727s to domestic Japanese destinations.


Great pic, but it could do with a little colour correction:

http://i.imgur.com/mIahDVI.jpg
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:22 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 3):
Definitely an error. JAL flew DC-8s.

And Convair 880M
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:32 pm

British Midland and several other carriers used to fly a lot of ad hoc wet leases back around that time. Maybe JL needed some additional capacity due to late deliveries or for their infamous "Golden Days" holidays in April.

I rode the 727 several times between Naha, Okinawa and HND.

Didn't someone fly Caravelles between Naha and TPE?
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:02 pm

JAL has operated jointly with Air France , L1649s and 707s .Planes were in Air France cs with Japan Al stickers.

They did the same with Aeroflot with Ill62s on Tokyo-Moscow route.They were in Aeroflot cs with Japan Al stickers.
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:07 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
Didn't someone fly Caravelles between Naha and TPE?

Maybe Thai International? With their ties with SAS, they flew Caravelles around Asia.


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Quoting titus95 (Reply 7):
JAL has operated jointly with Air France , L1649s and 707s .Planes were in Air France cs with Japan Al stickers.

Yes, but on internal Japanese domestic routes?
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:14 pm

Quoting titus95 (Reply 7):
JAL has operated jointly with Air France , L1649s and 707s .Planes were in Air France cs with Japan Al stickers.

They did the same with Aeroflot with IL62s on Tokyo-Moscow route.They were in Aeroflot cs with Japan Al stickers.

The joint Aeroflot/JAL services Tokyo-Moscow began with the Tu-114. Can see the JAL logo on the aircraft below.


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Aeroflot also operated jointly with KLM using IL-62s on the AMS-SVO-HND route during the period when foreign carriers weren't permitted on the Trans-Siberian route. Note KLM identification on forward fuselage.


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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:35 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
Didn't someone fly Caravelles between Naha and TPE?

Yes, CI did fly their Ex-SR caravelles between TPE-OKA , TPE-HKG and TPE-MNL until one of the two frames B-1852 crashed in Nov-1971 between TPE-HKG.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/China...d=5a9c9204e775231eb2b3169536225183
 
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RE: Japan Air 707s In 1967?

Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:33 am

As a young child in 1970, I remember flying the JL 727-100 between HND and ITM. The only reason why we had to do this was because it was nearly impossible back then to get Shinkansen tickets between Tokyo and Shin-Osaka during Expo '70.

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