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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue May 20, 2014 10:46 pm

Quoting Flypeoria (Reply 148):
You're probably right, and I was probably thinking of TOL (I know UA ran TOL-PIA-DEN for a time).

Indeed PIA-TOL was there too.   I had to think for a moment and then realized I actually did add it to the History section on FlyTOL already: http://www.flytol.com/?page_id=146
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed May 21, 2014 1:39 am

Quoting Flypeoria (Reply 148):

Turns out I was correct about UA and FWA in the first place. My April 1987 Official Airline Guide, Pocket Flight Edition, shows the following flights discontinued effective April 4 or 5, 1987:

Flt#522 727-100 DEN-SBN-FWA-DEN
Flt#682 727-100 DEN-IND-FWA
Flt#687 727-100 FWA-IND-DEN

Incendentally, UA withdrew from SBN at the same time.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed May 21, 2014 2:08 am

Yesterday's Allegiant flight from SFB-SBN-SFB was operated by an A320 (N215NV was noted on fr24.com). It also apparently diverted to TYS on the way back to Florida. Will be curious to see what Wednesday's schedule brings.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20140519/1346Z/KSBN/KSFB

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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed May 21, 2014 3:31 pm

Qouting A340Spotter Reply152.

Yesterday's Allegiant flight from SFB-SBN-SFB was operated by an A320 (N215NV was noted on fr24.com). It also apparently diverted to TYS on the way back to Florida. Will be curious to see what Wednesday's schedule brings.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20140519/1346Z/KSBN/KSFB

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Flightaware has been incorrect on this flight all month. The SFB-SBN-SFB flights are all operated with AirbusA320 aircraft this month. One day Flightaware showed it as an A320 up to SBN and an MD83 back. Totally incorrect information. Todays flight operated on time with an A320 both ways.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed May 21, 2014 11:22 pm

I was just curious with Tyra Squires (ex-Allegiant Communications Director) now the Director Of Marketing at Frontier and being that she knows how successful the Allegiant operation at SBN has been, Is there a possibility that F9 can be returning to SBN-DEN and make it successful with a better person at the helm. After all I personally think that the service wasn't marketed very well by the then Frontier people.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 12:33 am

Just checked in with SBN. Delta cannot give a firm date on when they will start using larger two-class jets on SBN-ATL but they are coming in the future. Right now the folks are happy to get another daily R/T.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 12:47 am

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 155):
Just checked in with SBN. Delta cannot give a firm date on when they will start using larger two-class jets on SBN-ATL but they are coming in the future.

I was just checking for 717 flights to IND. On July 10th IND-ATL will be 9x daily with all mainline equipment. 8 flights on MD88/MD90s and 1 flight on the 717, so IND will get the 717 too!
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 12:57 am

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 155):
Just checked in with SBN. Delta cannot give a firm date on when they will start using larger two-class jets on SBN-ATL but they are coming in the future. Right now the folks are happy to get another daily R/T.

In addition to the lone (for now) EV CR9, FWA-ATL is going from 3 to 4 RTs as well come September.

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 154):
I was just curious with Tyra Squires (ex-Allegiant Communications Director) now the Director Of Marketing at Frontier and being that she knows how successful the Allegiant operation at SBN has been, Is there a possibility that F9 can be returning to SBN-DEN and make it successful with a better person at the helm. After all I personally think that the service wasn't marketed very well by the then Frontier people.

If, as you said, advertising was a problem with F9, a return would need both sides working together on advertising to ensure that the service is successful. This year marks G4's seventh year at FWA, and they have done a lot of creative collaboration and promotion between the two sides over the years.

-In 2007, FWA held a mock election for the next G4 city
-In 2010, FWA got a lot of press attention for MYR
-In 2012, FWA did a 5th anniversary party in the terminal for G4 (with the winner going to PIE that night) early in the year and, later in the year when PGD was launched, held another contest in cooperation with the Punta Gorda CVB for a trip to PGD
-In 2013, FWA hosted a dodgeball tournament at the Three Rivers Festival, and shortly afterwards, FWA ran a photo contest to celebrate resumed AZA service, with the winner getting a trip to Phoenix
-This year, G4 gave FWA management their annual "best marketing partner" award (the trophy was a model MD-80)
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 1:42 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 157):

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 155):
Just checked in with SBN. Delta cannot give a firm date on when they will start using larger two-class jets on SBN-ATL but they are coming in the future. Right now the folks are happy to get another daily R/T.

In addition to the lone (for now) EV CR9, FWA-ATL is going from 3 to 4 RTs as well come September.

DTW-IND is also getting one frequency on the 717 as well.

Also of note, DL is upgrading IND-LAX from an A320 to a 739! At least during the summer it looks like.

For July 10th, DL has 39 flights which still makes it the largest in IND in terms of number of flights. Total scheduled flights for the whole airport that day are 145 with exactly 40% of those flights on mainline equipment.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 1:52 am

Quoting ATAIndy (Reply 158):
For July 10th, DL has 39 flights which still makes it the largest in IND in terms of number of flights.

Come September, AA and DL will be neck-and-neck in terms of frequency at FWA:

AA (including US)
4 ORD (ER4/ERD mix)
2 DFW (all ER4)
2 PHL (all CR2)
1 CLT (all CR2)
9 flights/day

DL
4 ATL (3 CR2, 1 CR9)
4 DTW (all CR2)
1 MSP (CR2)
9 flights/day

UA
4 ORD (all CR2)
4 flights/day

G4
2/week SFB (MD-80)
2/week AZA (A319)
2/week PGD (MD-80)
2/week PIE (MD-80)
A little more than one flight/day

Total departures/day from FWA for September: 23.14
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 9:42 am

SBN does a lot of promotions with Allegiant. That is why they are so successful. Also they do a lot of promotion with Notre Dame sports and Allegiant.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu May 29, 2014 11:12 pm

South Bend Chocolate Cafe is taking over all airport concessions, vending machines and gift shop operations starting June 1. Renovations will follow! Huge upgrade for SBN!

http://m.wsbt.com/south-bend-chocola...end-international-airport/26235248

[Edited 2014-05-29 16:15:00]
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri May 30, 2014 1:57 am

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 161):

South Bend Chocolate Cafe is taking over all airport concessions, vending machines and gift shop operations starting June 1. Renovations will follow! Huge upgrade for SBN!

I guess FWA and SBN share more in common than DL, G4, UA, and now Republic Parking System: they both dropped Air Host as soon as their contracts were over.

FWA kicked Air Host to the curb back in 2010. Apparently, Air Host didn't want to invest in the upgrades necessary to serve hot food airside, and a SAN-based company called First Class Concessions arrived at FWA.

By mid-2011, renovations to FWA's dining and shopping offerings were complete. Under First Class Concessions, FWA went from a (not very good) landside restaurant and (even worse) airside bar to two Seattle's Best Coffee locations (one landside, one airside), a very good Samuel Adams-themed restaurant airside (with hot food also available landside via a special secured door), and a gift shop featuring Vera Bradley handbags/luggage along with DeBrand chocolates - two things that Fort Wayne is noted for. One thing didn't change: the airport restaurants and vending machines still serve Coca-Cola products, which is a little funny since Fort Wayne has some of the highest Pepsi consumption in the US.

Still, good for SBN that they found a quality vendor that will probably help passenger satisfaction numbers.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:26 am

Some really cool things are going to come to SBN with the South Bend Chocolate Company taking over concessions. The restaurant and bar are going to take on some local themes and some aviation decor.

A few other things I found out or observed at SBN.

I checked out the area where they are going to put the FIS. I feel that it is a little more entailed than I originally thought. In order to get up to the bridge going over the tug road between the concourse and the old holding room C in my opinion will require escalators and an elevator in the new jetway vestibule.

SBN needs larger jets not only for elite flyers but also to accommodate non-revs of which a lot live in Northern Indiana and Lower Michigan. Also if passengers miss their flights there just isn't room on the next flight. The planes are just that full. 717's will be in the mix on ND football weekends along with the usual MD80's and MD90's and CR9's They still don't know when the will start on the regular SBN flights though.

In Regard to F9: F9 loads were such from March thru when they pulled out. They usually only had two empty seats and little or no space for non-revs. Even the DGS folks who told me this couldn't figure out why they left.

The A8 jet bridge appears to be different from those installed on A5-A7 in that it can go up higher which means along with the 3/4 height bridges on A3 and A9 in my opinion, can reach some of the taller mainline jets such as 737's and A320's. I don't know how much of an extension in regard to jetway incline it has to comply with ADA regs.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:28 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 163):
I checked out the area where they are going to put the FIS. I feel that it is a little more entailed than I originally thought. In order to get up to the bridge going over the tug road between the concourse and the old holding room C in my opinion will require escalators and an elevator in the new jetway vestibule.

This was sort of my point when I posted a while ago regarding the same issue. The bridge over the service alley will be about 14 feet off the deck and given the jetway height at the pedestal there must be a rise of about 4 feet inside the vestibule to meet the 14-foot height over the alley. They could do ramps inside the vestibule using the "switchback" technique.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:49 pm

Does anyone think that with DL's big SEA buildup, that they will start IND-SEA in the next round or two of SEA adds? IND-SEA was served during the NW focus city days, and is one of the most-flown routes from IND without a nonstop (the other being SAN now that UA launched SFO).

Thoughts?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:08 pm

Ref cleared2land reply164

When I also took a look the area for the proposed FIS, The old holding room C will have to be enlarged eastward to accommodate a baggage claim. Also with the FIS offices the heating and cooling unit for the Airport Offices will have to be moved or just worked around in the design of the holding room FIS extension. I'll leave all that up to the architects. Also like I mentioned before they will probably still need escalators and an elevator to the alley bridge walkway in order to make the bridge high enough to accommodate the two de-ice trucks that park at Delta and to comply with ADA requirements. I don't think Allegiant will have to move ticket counters in the proposed design but I just don't know. The design is a simple way to get the FIS into the present building however if I would do it I would spend the money and design a west extension (international wing) of the present building of the same design (plastic roof) another half floor up. I would leave room for three gates with 3/4 height jetways. I would segregate the gates with inside glass so that they can be used for domestic operations to. After clearing customs I would have a hallway in front dumping the people out into the Concourse A walkway prior to TSA security. Expensive but a much cleaner operation.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:57 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 165):

Does anyone think that with DL's big SEA buildup, that they will start IND-SEA in the next round or two of SEA adds? IND-SEA was served during the NW focus city days, and is one of the most-flown routes from IND without a nonstop (the other being SAN now that UA launched SFO).

Thoughts?

Not only that, when I pulled the top destinations from SEA from DOT data, IND was the top destination not currently served by a direct flight. It's gotta be coming soon.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:36 am

The South Shore Board approved their 20-yr strategic plan which means the new station will be on the west side of the airport terminal building freeing up some space on the east side of the terminal for the international operation and also eliminating a bunch of grade crossings and cutting 20 minutes off the times to Chicago. When all the improvements are put in place the time from SBN-downtown Chicago will only be about 1 hr and 40 minutes.

When I analyzed my pictures of the A8 jet bridge as opposed to those at A5-A7 the height adjustment and wheel truck assemblies are different in that they are further back from the front of the bridge which means it can go up higher and also my friends that work for UAX at SBN say that the A8 bridge has a greater range of angle adjustments making it easier for them when using the gate for E170 or mainline aircraft.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:44 pm

A great article on G4 from the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, mentioning the airline's profits, FWA presence, and ancillary revenue sources.

http://www.jg.net/article/20140608/BIZ/306089970/1031/BIZ

I'm sure a similar story could easily be done in SBN, too.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:40 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 165):
Does anyone think that with DL's big SEA buildup, that they will start IND-SEA in the next round or two of SEA adds? IND-SEA was served during the NW focus city days, and is one of the most-flown routes from IND without a nonstop (the other being SAN now that UA launched SFO).

Thoughts?

Honestly it makes no sense that IND-SEA isn't already served. It sold well when NW ran the route. Plus SEA is a gateway for DL and a very logical connecting point for IND-Asia passengers. I have never made an international connection in LAX but I would have to imagine that SEA is a much more pleasant experience than LAX. I know my IND-ATL-LAX-SAN experience wasn't very good. It would be a great way to offer IND-SEA nonstop as well has provide another connection opportunity to Asia.

As for SAN.... I am not sure about that one. What would starting IND-SAN do to IND-LAX? How many pax on IND-LAX are actually going IND-LAX-SAN? Would starting SAN hurt LAX? Or is LAX much like what I have talked about with SEA? Is it mainly IND-LAX and IND-LAX-Asia?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:55 pm

Schedule not loaded yet but United Express will be offering E175 service from SBN to EWR and CLE during busier Notre Dame home Football weekends. This is an upgrade from the E145's they used int he past. Right now they have scheduled on the three busiest weekends a flight to CLE and one to EWR for a total of 3 on each route.

No word on Delta's plans yet but I'm sure they will use their mix of MD88's, MD90's and CRJ900's on SBN-ATL, SBN-DTW and SBN-MSP flights and even an A320 flight to DTW on the busier weekends. They also offered SBN-LGA (CRJ900) flights on Sunday's after the game. The Stanford game weekend (INMHO) they could possibly even get away with (Sunday after the game) a N/S A320 flight from SBN-SJC. May even see a B717 flight or two this year.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:35 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 165):
Does anyone think that with DL's big SEA buildup, that they will start IND-SEA in the next round or two of SEA adds? IND-SEA was served during the NW focus city days, and is one of the most-flown routes from IND without a nonstop (the other being SAN now that UA launched SFO).

I have to think this is on Delta's radar. Perhaps it is even on Alaska's. There was a thread not long ago about the largest destinations not currently served by AS from SEA and IND was in the top 5. AS already serves OMA, STL, and MSY. It wouldn't be impossible, but if they start it anytime soon we all know DL will announce IND-SEA the very next day.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:14 am

On FWA's board meeting agenda for this coming Monday: a fourth revision to their lease deal with G4. I know as a fact that FWA's current lease deals with all four airlines serving the airport aren't that old, and G4 has added PGD and AZA service from FWA since the original deal was signed.

Link: http://fwairport.com/uploads/page/AGENDA.6.16.14.pdf

I know that G4's moving into UA's old ticket counter and that UA will then be moving into an unused portion of the DL ticket counter. Maybe this lease deal could be something as simple as reflecting G4 change in ground handlers or switching preferential-use gates, or maybe it could be preparation for a new route (LAS?). Whatever happens, G4 currently shares gates 7 and 8 with Eagle (which was their ground handler until recently when Trego Dugan Jet Management took over), which may be a tight squeeze with the latter's new PHL and CLT flights. Gates 2, 4, 5, and 6 are currently DL/DGS gates, with gate 6 being shared with UA (which uses DGS at FWA). G4 has used the ground-level gates in the past, so I wouldn't rule out a move to those or for more flexible gate usage.

The FWA numbers for May should be out next week as well. Hopefully, the extremely positive trends will continue.

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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:47 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 173):
Maybe this lease deal could be something as simple as reflecting G4 change in ground handlers or switching preferential-use gates

That's all it is. AA told them to F-Off due to unrealistic demands and expenses.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:04 pm

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 174):
That's all it is. AA told them to F-Off due to unrealistic demands and expenses.

Not surprised given G4's relentless drive to control costs. FWA management was also unhappy that FWA was down to just DGS and Eagle for ground, too, as they thought it presented a challenge to airlines that wanted to enter the FWA market. It should be easier to lure in new airlines now that FWA is up to three ground handlers.

On a related note, the new ground handler for G4 at FWA (Trego-Dugan) also does a lot of F9 work. A sign of F9 potentially coming to FWA in the future, perhaps? Is this the same handler that F9 used at SBN?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:37 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 175):
Not surprised given G4's relentless drive to control costs

Sure control their costs, but expect ground handlers to fork out thousands of additional expenses per month.

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 175):
On a related note, the new ground handler for G4 at FWA (Trego-Dugan) also does a lot of F9 work. A sign of F9 potentially coming to FWA in the future, perhaps?

You really read way too much into things.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:24 pm

F9 Used DGS at SBN. With SBN going international in the future perhaps F9 would explore some Apple Vacation work from SBN. I know Allegiant wants to go to CUN. I don't know who wants to go to Nassau by I surmise it's SCX.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:15 pm

Another double-digit growth month for FWA, with a 10.07% pax increase over last May and a 10.83% year-to-date increase.

http://fwairport.com/uploads/page/ACTIVITY_05_2014.pdf

Among airlines, G4 was up 24% and UA was up almost 42% over last May. Eagle was down 3% and DL was flat.

Cargo was up 28% over last May as well. FedEx, UPS, and transient operators all showed increases.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:08 pm

SBN has even reversed course with life after F9.

In April Airline Enplanements up 1.07 % Air Cargo up 23.38% Proabbly thanks to FEDEX using B757's now. Just think how it would be with F9 still in SBN.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:37 pm

An FWA press release on DL FWA-ATL getting first-class seats:
http://fwairport.com/news/delta-air-...st-class-service-to-fwa-atl-market

Apparently, the midday EV CR9 to ATL starts next month and not in September! (However, September is still the month where the 4th flight, a morning 9E CR2, starts.)

So this means that FWA and EVV both are getting their first class from DL back very soon. IND, of course, never lost F seats to ATL. The question is: when will SBN follow (not counting extra capacity for Notre Dame games)?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:10 am

An interesting sight at GYY earlier today as I came upon the airport along the toll road heading into work. I may or may not have broken some rules of the road!
Figure that the PeoplExpress 737-400 was being operated by Vision on a JPATS flight as there's no record of a departure on FlightAware.


Perhaps in the future, it may become a regular.

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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:56 pm

DL's first CR9 flight to and from FWA arrived yesterday, marking the return of F cabins to FWA after about a decade - there are photos on the FWA Facebook page. Notably, this one flight will temporarily return to a CR2 for most of October, then go back to the CR9 for the foreseeable future.

Any bets that FWA-ATL will see the 717 as well as additional CR9s as the CR2s are being drawn down?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:14 am

DL is selectively putting the B717 in several mid sized cities for the morning ATL runs with return flights at the end of the day. They have recently put the plane in XNA and GNV. The 717's will most likely come to SBN on the ND football weekends if DL doesn't need the capacity of the MD88 or something larger. On one football weekend last season they used an A320 on one of the SBN-DTW flights.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:40 pm

Southbend just sent out a tweet "We have a BIG announcement coming Monday at 9am. Stay tuned...."

Anyone have a clue?
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:48 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 182):
Any bets that FWA-ATL will see the 717 as well as additional CR9s as the CR2s are being drawn down?

I would hope so..for a long time from the late 60's to the draw down of the DC9-32 fleet in the 80's (??) there was always a DC9 from DL at FWA each day.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:49 pm

Quoting flyinryan99 (Reply 184):
Southbend just sent out a tweet "We have a BIG announcement coming Monday at 9am. Stay tuned...."

My bet: SBN is getting ready to announce a hub in Texas, for reasons that one a.netter has mentioned many times in the past on this thread - my bet's on UA to IAH, but I wouldn't rule out AA to DFW.

But if AA comes back, I think there would probably be a second city involved (CLT or ORD are most likely) so the station could be started with a more economical 3 to 4 flights per day instead of 1 or 2. UA already serves SBN 5-6x daily to ORD and wouldn't have the same issue.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:12 am

I would be surprised if it is United to EWR and IAH.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:38 pm

A little extreme but could it be JetBlue E190 service to JFK ? JetBlue is also set to announce a new city soon.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:16 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 188):

I would be shocked if it is something other than what FWA already has (CLT, PHL, DFW) or the possible UA addition of IAH, EWR or DEN. The one long shot would be either Allegiant or Frontier service to Cancun, they just recently announced the addition of a FIS and name change for the airport, it wouldn't surprise me if an airline's plans prompted the name change.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:52 pm

Quoting jetskipper (Reply 189):
The one long shot would be either Allegiant or Frontier service to Cancun, they just recently announced the addition of a FIS and name change for the airport, it wouldn't surprise me if an airline's plans prompted the name change.

The FIS at SBN won't be ready until mid-2015. Unlikely that it's international service announced so soon.

But you're right about an airline's plans to fly internationally from SBN. The airport authority has already said that they are in talks with several airlines regarding CUN and other similar cities.

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 188):

A little extreme but could it be JetBlue E190 service to JFK ? JetBlue is also set to announce a new city soon.

If you look on the B6 new city thread, it's almost a given that it's in the Caribbean or Central America. 99% chance it isn't SBN then - I mean, they don't serve IND either even though it was a rumored early city for the E190.

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 187):
I would be surprised if it is United to EWR and IAH.

Do you think that a return of AA is more likely than new UA routes? Maybe F9 to TTN?
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:28 pm

We know that SBN has been in very active discussions with regard to DFW, NYC-area and re-establishing westbound service. My bet is Texas service since that seems to me most highly sought after by SBN. In any case it will be good no matter what it is. I just hope that we will see more than one city.

I can say, however, that past conversations with SBN's MIke Daigle suggested very in-depth talks with AA and he didn't seem jealous at all over FWA and EVV getting additional AA service; almost like he know something  
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:23 pm

Probably AA to DFW and maybe throwing in USAirways Express service to CLT and PHL.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:32 pm

It's already loaded in an airlines schedule but I'll let them make the big announcement.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:51 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 193):
It's already loaded in an airlines schedule but I'll let them make the big announcement.

AA.com now lists SBN as an option when you try to book a flight, but no AA flights are currently available from SBN. The plot thickens...

I'm betting that it's AA returning to SBN, with DFW for sure, and probably on the new CP (Compass) E175s that are due to enter service soon from DFW. If it's CP operating the DFW flights, maybe FWA-DFW (and other very long DFW ER4 routes) will get an upgrade at the same time, as the airport authority here has been pushing AA for years to get two-class jets on FWA-DFW.
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:03 pm

To FWAERJ I actually know who it is and I'm going to keep it tight lipped. If you or anyone finds the flights please keep quiet about it until the big announcement.

As far as F9 goes, If they come back to SBN in the future the rumors that I heard is its SBN-IAD but those are just rumors and it doesn't concern the announcement Monday.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:05 pm

[quote=freakyrat,reply=195]To FWAERJ I actually know who it is and I'm going to keep it tight lipped. If you or anyone finds the flights please keep quiet about it until the big announcement.

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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:36 pm

I think that DFW/CLT is very likely for SBN and I have heard IAD mentioned a few times as well. I think 2015 will be a great year for SBN and may push them to the 1 million pax mark. All SBN needs is 1,000 more pax a day in/out to hit the one million mark. 10 50-seaters R/T would do it. We need 4 more R/T and we have an excellent shot.

Here's to 2015  
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:58 pm

SBN is getting a 50-seater R/T on this new flight.

I think AA/US will return to SBN with DFW/CLT sometime in the future as well I think that Delta may start SBN-LGA if they can find a slot for it.

SBN can hit the 1 million mark once Allegiant and others start flying to Mexico and the Bahamas and the FIS is up and running. SBN-YYZ is also mentioned as possible.
 
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RE: Indiana Aviation: Part DC-10

Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:14 am

"cleared2land,reply=197"I think that DFW/CLT is very likely for SBN and I have heard IAD mentioned a few times as well. I think 2015 will be a great year for SBN and may push them to the 1 million pax mark. All SBN needs is 1,000 more pax a day in/out to hit the one million mark. 10 50-seaters R/T would do it. We need 4 more R/T and we have an excellent shot."

SBN may have to reinstall the jet bridges at A2 and A4 plus readjust the gate parking arrangements and maybe install a CUPPS system so that some gates can become common use. Busy mornings around SBN with lots of towing of airplanes and even busier if AA and F9 return. Should be an interesting 2015.

I also know that they have a ramp rebuild with heavy reinforced concrete planned.

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