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Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:07 pm

I'm 99% positive that the baggage claim at Trenton Mercer Airport (TTN) is in the sterile area (its in a seperate modular building on the tarmac next to the terminal). Normally, baggage claim areas are in the public area of the airport. I'm sure that there are some other airports that have baggage claim on the sterile side, just wondering if anyone had any examples.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:17 pm

Not rare at all for international arrivals without preclearance.
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Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:23 pm

I cannot remember a single airport I have been to in the last 10 years where the baggage claim area was not sterile.

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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:43 pm

For domestic US arrivals, it would seem like you couldn't put the baggage claim in the sterile area for the same reason you have to re-clear security through a checkpoint after passing through customs: you could easily take something out of your checked baggage that is prohibited in a carry-on. I haven't been to Trenton, and I don't know that this is disallowed, but I would be surprised if the TSA (or other security agencies) allowed anyone to backtrack from the claim to airside, even if the claim is "sterile."
 
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:58 pm

I should have been clear, I'm talking about domestic arrivals where customs or immigration check is not required (US Mostly but perhaps there are some non-us airports)

Quoting sfredspot (Reply 3):
I haven't been to Trenton, and I don't know that this is disallowed, but I would be surprised if the TSA (or other security agencies) allowed anyone to backtrack from the claim to airside, even if the claim is "sterile."

Yes, I don't know the procedure as I have yet to have an arriving flight since the remodeling of the terminal but from what I understand passengers are directed out to the parking lot after going thru baggage claim. I'm sure that they have an officer from the Mercer County Sheriff 's office (TTN security) posted to make sure no one back tracks into the terminal. I know that they did have an officer at the former baggage claim that prevented arriving pax from going back out onto the tarmac after arrival.



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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:59 pm

Quoting larshjort (Reply 2):
I cannot remember a single airport I have been to in the last 10 years where the baggage claim area was not sterile.

There are plenty :
- all (or most) US airports for domestic arrivals
- ORY (west) for domestic and Schengen arrivals
Etc

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Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:01 pm

Quoting sfredspot (Reply 3):
For domestic US arrivals, it would seem like you couldn't put the baggage claim in the sterile area for the same reason you have to re-clear security through a checkpoint after passing through customs: you could easily take something out of your checked baggage that is prohibited in a carry-on.

Sterile doesn't necessarily mean mixing departing passengers with arriving ones, it just means that you can't get to it without at one point going through security at some airport. When the baggage claim is in a sterile area you can never go back to the gates (unless maybe escorted i.e. forgot something on plane).
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:01 am

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 4):
I'm talking about domestic arrivals where customs or immigration check is not required (US Mostly but perhaps there are some non-us airports)

Given this understanding... (non immigration)

Quoting larshjort (Reply 2):
I cannot remember a single airport I have been to in the last 10 years where the baggage claim area was not sterile.

I cannot remember a single airport, in the last >10 years, where the baggage claim area WAS sterile. They are all public. The sterile ones disappeared long ago domestically in the US for sure. Nearly all my travel in Europe is cross border and since I'm not EU.....
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:15 am

YVR (domestic) and all US airports I've been to have baggage claim accessible by the public.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:19 am

Sterile baggage claim is pretty much standard outside of the USA...
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:19 am

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 7):
I cannot remember a single airport, in the last >10 years, where the baggage claim area WAS sterile. They are all public.

Ditto. I was blown away when larshjort said the opposite.

Quoting sfredspot (Reply 3):
For domestic US arrivals, it would seem like you couldn't put the baggage claim in the sterile area for the same reason you have to re-clear security through a checkpoint after passing through customs: you could easily take something out of your checked baggage that is prohibited in a carry-on.

Exactly. Rules for checked baggage and carry-ons are completely different, as anyone who has had to decide whether to stick with travel size bathroom stuff in a carry on or the pack the larger stuff in a checked bag can attest to. Allowing arriving passengers to pick up checked baggage in the sterile area would completely loop hole the TSA process. Heck, even employees are prohibited from introducing checked baggage into the sterile area without getting it properly searched first.

Quoting Jerseyguy (Thread starter):
I'm 99% positive that the baggage claim at Trenton Mercer Airport (TTN) is in the sterile area (its in a seperate modular building on the tarmac next to the terminal).

I think you should think more about that 1% doubt you have. You said it's in a *separate* area...perhaps this area is not even considered sterile. Are there are any origin-departing passengers? Do connecting passengers have to re-clear security? If the answers to these questions are no and yes, respectively, then it's not a sterile area.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 1):
Not rare at all for international arrivals without preclearance.

This is true. And the reason for this is that international baggage can technically not be allowed into the US until its owner(s) have been cleared by CBP. So, generally, the baggage is located immediately after the CBP checkpoints, which are, generally, located near the international arrival gates. However, this area is technically not a sterile area, even if the countries the passengers arrive from have security standards equal or above our own.

MCO is a great example of this. Arriving international passengers collect their baggage in the CBP hall, which is located below the sterile area of Airside 4. After collecting their baggage, final-destination passengers (and connecting passengers with connections at another Airside) are shuffled up to the lobby for the tram to take them to the Landside Terminal. This little area is NOT a sterile area (Note the one-way-only through the glass doors). Connecting passengers with a departure gate in Airside 4 have the option to recheck their baggage after leaving the CBP hall, and then going through a TSA checkpoint right there in Airside 4 to allow them into the sterile area. So to say that the baggage claim is located within the sterile area is still an incorrect statement.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:20 am

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 9):
Sterile baggage claim is pretty much standard outside of the USA...

Well it's pretty much standard for the rest of the world to be different then the USA.  
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:42 am

So in an airport where this isn't the case, anybody can come to the airport and steal luggage ? Doesn't seem logical.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:02 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 12):
So in an airport where this isn't the case, anybody can come to the airport and steal luggage ? Doesn't seem logical.

I can understand where you're coming from. And from that standpoint, you are correct. This may happen, but very rarely, if at all. I have a few ides as to why:

First, if I were a thief and wanted to steal baggage in this way, I suppose I would go to a carousel that is dispensing bags. But how do I know that the owner for a given bag is not standing right there in the same area. If I reach for a bag (which I know is not mine) and the owner is there, I could do a simple "oh, my mistake, looked like mine". But I couldn't do this repeatedly, else I'd raise suspicion. So with all the passengers (bag owners) standing around, this isn't very practical. Also, an airline representative is usually standing nearby...another person to worry about. And don't forgot their are security cameras catching everything you're doing.

Second, at any time when leaving the baggage area an airline representative, airport representative, or security personal is allowed to ask to see your bag tag receipts (the stickers that you were given at check-in, that match the numbers on the bag), or if you don't have them then at least your ID. They can always do a name check with the bag tag.

Third, it just can't be near as practical as stealing something from a store. Not that I'm condoning thievery or anything. I'm just saying...what would you expect to get from a piece of checked baggage...clothes, shampoo, a pair of shoes? Especially now a days, when almost all of us bring our mini expensive gadgets with us on board.

The few bags that (may) be stolen outweigh the security risk of allowing these sterile bags into the sterile area.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:04 am

Every airport I've been to in Mexico has you claim your luggage before exiting the secure area. I can speak for MEX, TIJ, and GDL but others I don't know.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:13 am

I haven't been to SJU in a while but i think i remember that airport might have a sterile baggage claim for arriving AA flights.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:16 am

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 14):
Every airport I've been to in Mexico has you claim your luggage before exiting the secure area. I can speak for MEX, TIJ, and GDL but others I don't know.

For Mexico and all other countries where this is true, how do they handle the fact that these bags have not been placed under the same scrutiny as the carry-ons. Or perhaps I should ask, are the carry-ons/passengers even held to a higher scrutiny as the checked bags?

As most know, the TSA is the US has made it so that passengers/carry-ons are more limited as to what is allowed then checked baggage. Although, the biggest differences are the liquid rules, I suppose. And this is relatively new (relatively, meaning in the history of passenger air travel).
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:17 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 12):
So in an airport where this isn't the case, anybody can come to the airport and steal luggage ? Doesn't seem logical.

The first time I encountered an airport where anyone (and there I mean outsiders) could walk up to the luggage belt I was shocked.
Luckily common sense is prevailing and this is getting rare.

The most strict handling of luggage I have seen is in China, where upon collecting your bag you can only leave the belt area after they have matched the tag on your luggage to the tag which was attached to your boarding pass upon checkin. I have encountered this on all domestic flights and some international flights.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:27 am

Quoting angmoh (Reply 17):
Luckily common sense is prevailing and this is getting rare.

I'm not sure why it's "common sense" to restrict the baggage claim area. Outside of most sterile baggage claims the world over, there is a huge scrum of people that, I would think, is an easier place to commit petty crime than a non-sterile baggage claim.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:36 am

PER domestic arrivals baggage claims are not in the sterile area.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:51 am

It may not be technically sterile but it isn't accessible to the public.

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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:17 am

Perhaps we should differentiate between what is a secure sterile area and what is considered restricted access to the public, but not sterile. The examples of TTN and SJU baggage claims are examples where these are not located in a secure sterile area, as arriving passengers have already passed the TSA exit checkpoint, but are also located in an area which is restricted to the public. SJU in particular uses this setup to check bag tags to ensure all pax have correct bags and to deter theft. I do agree with the person who stated having baggage claim in a secure sterile area will lead to potential security loopholes.

The TTN and SJU baggage claim setups are standard at most airports outside the US for domestic flights, including Canada. Personally, I would have liked to see this setup used more often here in the US.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:45 am

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 16):

In Mexico, as you are exiting the sterile are you come up to a customs officer and you press a little button. A green light will show up signaling you are clear to go through, if it lights up red, all your bags get searched. It is suppose to be random but every time I go through with more than 2 bags I get stopped. They are looking for undeclared things that aren't allowed in the country or that you have to pay taxes on.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:52 am

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 16):
For Mexico and all other countries where this is true, how do they handle the fact that these bags have not been placed under the same scrutiny as the carry-ons.

Easily: you can't go from the luggage area back to the main air-side area of the airport. You can only leave the baggage area towards the land-side area. But nobody from the land-side are can get directly into the baggage area. It's like this all over the world... except in the USA. Actually, in the international terminals in the USA it works also like this.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:09 am

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 11):
Well it's pretty much standard for the rest of the world to be different then the USA.

Australia has baggage area in public areas (well, as far as I've seen), so they follow the American model.

Europe has baggage areas mostly in sterile areas (but, still separated, so as you enter baggage area, you cannot go back to departures area). However, there are exceptions, my local domestic airport in Norway has the baggage area in non-sterile area. I do believe it is like that due to how the terminal was built (originally built with no security control, with baggage carousel too close to exit).

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Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:22 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 24):
Australia has baggage area in public areas (well, as far as I've seen), so they follow the American model.

Only for domestic.
 
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Quoting angmoh (Reply 17):
The most strict handling of luggage I have seen is in China, where upon collecting your bag you can only leave the belt area after they have matched the tag on your luggage to the tag which was attached to your boarding pass upon checkin. I have encountered this on all domestic flights and some international flights.

Airports in the US used to be that way but they did away with that many years ago... as in they would have an agent matching your claim ticket against the bag tag.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:24 am

Regarding theft from the baggage caroussel in the US, I have read that it is becoming a growing problem. During my many years served in Europe, the posters are right in that luggage is delivered in a secure area, but not the sterile area. Sea-Tac in SEA used to be pretty secure in that way where passengers were required to match their luggage tags, but I assume that has also gone by the wayside.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:37 am

In general, bag clain in New Zealand (domestically at least) is not in sterile areas. Only flights on large jets (e.g. 737 or A320) depart from secured/sterile gates, so baggage is not screened at all going on to sectors flown by smaller aircraft (e.g. Q300 or ATR72).

International arrivals the baggage claim is certainly in a secure area accessible only to passengers.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:37 am

Prior to 9/11, in LAS, though the bag claim may not have been sterile with metal detectors, it was quarantined with turnstiles and people doing bag tag match verification prior to a passenger leaving with their bags. It's the only area of aviation security that has gotten worse since 9/11. Is that what you mean by sterile?
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:51 am

In my home airport, SZG, baggage pickup is in the sterile area, and they also have a customs officer there doing random checks.

E.G.:

(In German)
Him: Random Control! What's in the bag?
Me: Computer, gifts for my landlord and his children.
Him: fine. Go through.

(English)
Him: Random Control! What's in the bag?
Tourist: Huh? Oh. Uh. Clothing.
Him: Please go to my colleague in the customs office there.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:58 am

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 7):
I cannot remember a single airport, in the last >10 years, where the baggage claim area WAS sterile. They are all public. The sterile ones disappeared long ago domestically in the US for sure. Nearly all my travel in Europe is cross border and since I'm not EU.....

In most airports in Asia, the baggage claim area is in the sterile area, even for domestic flights. Certainly the case in China, Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam.

I find it very weird when the baggage claim area is not sterile. I suppose I am just not used to it (then again I mostly fly SIN-HKG every week).

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Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:16 am

LHR T1 used to have domestic reclaim in the public areas but this was changed a number of years back and now it is in its own area.
I guess the confusion is over the sterile area. LHR has 3 zones.
Landside - anyone can access shops check-in etc
Baggage Reclaim - only arriving passengers can access
Airside – Those arriving or departing that have been screened or arriving.
You have barriers / Immigration stopping you going back Airside once you have collected your baggage.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:41 pm

In Brazil all bagage claim areas is in the sterile area. I feel strange when I get to the US and see bagage claim areas in public access areas.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:23 pm

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 16):
For Mexico and all other countries where this is true, how do they handle the fact that these bags have not been placed under the same scrutiny as the carry-ons. Or perhaps I should ask, are the carry-ons/passengers even held to a higher scrutiny as the checked bags?

The zone being sterile does not mean that it is accessible to boarding passengers, who have just cleared security. It means it is accessible only by arriving passengers.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:47 pm

For some reason, FRA has a baggage claim that any one can walk into in parts of Terminal 1. It's the only airport in Europe I've ever encountered where this is the case.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:16 pm

Quoting LOWS (Reply 30):
In my home airport, SZG, baggage pickup is in the sterile area, and they also have a customs officer there doing random checks.

Isn't this the main reason for the secure baggage claim arrangement in Europe - so that customs checks can be done on the luggage? In GVA, for example, the vast majority of flights and passengers are not CH-domestic and are subject to inspection. Since not all Schengen areas are part of the EU customs union, customs facilities still need to be available. On the other hand, for countries with primarily domestic travel, there's no real reason to not have the claims be in the public area (other than theft).
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:34 pm

Unless something has changed, the baggage claim trailer in TTN is not sterile. On the day I was there people were able to enter the trailer land side with no issues through the exit door of the trailer. Now, they could not enter the door that leads directly onto the AOA, however. That door was locked and was manned by security as passengers deplaned to ensure people entered the trailer from the ramp but did not turn around and try to go back out to the ramp after entering the trailer.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:55 pm

Although it was mentioned above I think some people are still confused with the term sterile and secure. The sterile area of an airport is any area past security security screening (gates). The non-sterile area is the area before security (ticket counters, most domestic baggage claim areas).

A secured baggage claim area doesn't necessarily mean sterile. It simply means a paid person checks bag claim tags as people pick up their bags off a baggage carousel and prevents people off the street from stealing someone's bags. Most U.S. baggage claim areas are non-secure, meaning someone could walk in off the street and take someone's bag. This has been a small problem at some airports with theft. I know there was a big ring in DFW and they found a bunch of bags in an off property self rent storage facility. However, for the most part, this system works as most passengers beat their bags to the bag claim and are therefore, waiting as their bags start to arrive off their flight. You've still got an issue with your fellow passenger not paying attention and taking someone else's bag by mistake.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:58 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 38):
It simply means a paid person checks bag claim tags as people pick up their bags off a baggage carousel and prevents people off the street from stealing someone's bags.

How common is that? I have never had to show my baggage claim tag to anybody in an any airport I have every been to (only in been around Europe and of course the US).
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:09 pm

How common is it for someone to check your claim stub against your bag at the claim area? I've been to 130 U.S. airports and I've only seen it in SJU and in LAS a long, long time ago. I believe MSY was set up to block general public access to the claim area, but that has since changed. I believe it was probably more common back in the day at a lot of airports but I'm sure most airports decided it wasn't worth their money to pay for it and you know the airlines aren't going to pay for anything unless they have to.

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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:16 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 37):
Unless something has changed, the baggage claim trailer in TTN is not sterile. On the day I was there people were able to enter the trailer land side with no issues through the exit door of the trailer. Now, they could not enter the door that leads directly onto the AOA, however. That door was locked and was manned by security as passengers deplaned to ensure people entered the trailer from the ramp but did not turn around and try to go back out to the ramp after entering the trailer.

Thanks Kingcavalier, guess I was wrong about the trailer, makes it a long walk back to the terminal to the rental car counter for those who are renting a car. Perfect setup for those who are waiting in the cellphone lot to pickup someone though.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:25 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 12):
anybody can come to the airport and steal luggage

Yup. That's one more reason never to put valuables in packed luggage. I hear about theft by airport employees more often that theft in the non-secure baggage area. However, that may be an artifact of reporting - not a real measure.

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 27):
Sea-Tac in SEA used to be pretty secure in that way where passengers were required to match their luggage tags, but I assume that has also gone by the wayside.

Yep - I fly in and out of SEA all the time. Now - I almost never check luggage, but I walk right by it and it is not secure.
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:06 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 40):
How common is it for someone to check your claim stub against your bag at the claim area? I've been to 130 U.S. airports and I've only seen it in SJU and in LAS a long, long time ago.

They were still doing it at HOU the last time I went through there, but that was about ten years ago.
 
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Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:10 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 40):
How common is it for someone to check your claim stub against your bag at the claim area? I've been to 130 U.S. airports and I've only seen it in SJU and in LAS a long, long time ago.

Many airlines still do it at LGA...
 
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:02 pm

Actually at JFK T7 for domestic arrivals the general public cannot access the baggage claim area. Security prevents you from going past the restrooms. This is unlike JFK Terminal 4 where anybody can access the domestic baggage claim belts.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:51 am

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 38):
Although it was mentioned above I think some people are still confused with the term sterile and secure. The sterile area of an airport is any area past security security screening (gates). The non-sterile area is the area before security (ticket counters, most domestic baggage claim areas).

A secured baggage claim area doesn't necessarily mean sterile.

Thank you for finally pointing that out. I was just about to explain the same thing...until I saw your post. It seems this term does not mean the same to everyone. Or some have been confused as to what the term actually means.

To add to that: The term "sterile" refers to being free from dangerous items such as weapons, knives, lighters, and all the other things that the TSA (or your favorite country's security) take from you.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 23):
Easily: you can't go from the luggage area back to the main air-side area of the airport. You can only leave the baggage area towards the land-side area. But nobody from the land-side are can get directly into the baggage area.

This is not necessarily a "sterile" area, just a secure one.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:13 am

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 46):
This is not necessarily a "sterile" area, just a secure one.

Exactly: the baggage areas in most European airports are secure, whereas those in the domestic terminals of US airports are not.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Quoting jrosa (Reply 33):

In Brazil all bagage claim areas is in the sterile area. I feel strange when I get to the US and see bagage claim areas in public access areas.

Me too. Always amazed that theft wasn't a much bigger problem. Personally I would prefer my bags not to be publicly accessible, but as long as it isn't much of a problem, I can't see anyone spending millions redesigning their airports anytime soon.
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RE: Sterile Baggage Claim Area: How Rare?

Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:26 pm

Quoting offloaded (Reply 48):
Me too. Always amazed that theft wasn't a much bigger problem. Personally I would prefer my bags not to be publicly accessible, but as long as it isn't much of a problem, I can't see anyone spending millions redesigning their airports anytime soon.

It seems like it would be a huge problem, but consider this: How often do your bags make it to baggage claim before you do (and remember these are domestic flights, so the passengers are not waiting in line going through immigration)?

Baggage theft certainly happens, although it nowhere near rampant enough to warrant redesigning almost every terminal in the US.

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