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|Quoting jetblue01 (Reply 4):|
Quoting rampart (Reply 3):
Isn't Syracuse a bit more depressed economically than even the rest of the upstate cities?
yes it is
|Quoting desertjets (Reply 5):|
The metro area population of Syracuse is considerably smaller than Albany, Rochester or Buffalo as well. Even if you start generously including other areas like Utica/Rome, Ithaca, Binghamton, Watertown, etc..... still smaller -- and still economically depressed.
|Quoting hz747300 (Reply 11):|
I would have thought that Florida service from Syracuse would have made sense. But I am not an airline revenue analyst, nor do I play one on TV.
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 10):|
I propose 2x MDW and 4x BWI for connections, 1x MCO, 1x TPA for the winter retreaters, and 1x DEN/1x DAL or HOU for some new markets or future International connections.
|Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 14):|
4 to BWI? Sounds like a non-rev's dream. I would like it would be more like 2x BWI and 1x MCO and that would probably be it...maybe 1x MDW.
|Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 13):|
I thought B6 was considered the airline of SYR?
|Quoting USAirALB (Reply 17):|
The population of metro areas in Upstate NY are:
1. Buffalo/Niagara: 1.25 MILLION
2. Capital District(ALB) : about 1.1 million
3. ROC metro area: 1 million
4. SYR metro area: 660K
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 19):|
|Quoting USAirALB (Reply 20):|
If you read my whole post above, you would see how I divided the catchment areas.
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 15):|
B6 flies 4x to JFK + Florida, I think WN could manage more than 3 daily flights to hubs, and a more P2P vacation destinations.
|Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 22):|
how much of the SYR-JFK is O&D? WN wants O&D before connecting traffic.
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 23):|
At least the same % as in ROC or ALB, and WN can pretend all they want, but with MDW, BWI, DEN, PHX, etc. they have hubs, and can't hate connections forever. If they want to continue to grow (and their order book with Boeing says that they do) they need to look at new markets, and not all of them are going to be O&D routes exclusively.
|Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 24):|
How did that work out for MDW-CAK?
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 25):|
First off, that was an AirTran route, and I don't think that WN fought to keep AirTran routes. WN already had CLE, and they like to have a certain # of flights from any city to justify service.
|Quoting cosyr (Reply 21):|
But with ALB ranked at 81, ROC at 83 and SYR at 87,
|Quoting USAirALB (Reply 27):|
There is practically no O/D traffic from NYC to ALB. The vast majority of people who need to get to ALB from NYC and vice-versa take Amtrak.
|Quoting N62NA (Reply 28):|
Things certainly have changed for SYR in 30 years. When I lived up there in the mid 80s, SYR was ranked in the low 60s market-wise. I think the closing of all those industrial plants in Solvay drove out a lot of jobs from the area.
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