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What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:40 pm

Loved this aircraft. Do they not fly anywhere anymore?
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:58 pm

They mainly fly cargo now. Some are still flying passenger configs in Europe and Africa. They have become fuel hogs, and 4 engines has killed maintenance costs. I love these planes too. One of my favorite planes.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Quoting wozza1975 (Thread starter):
Loved this aircraft. Do they not fly anywhere anymore?

They do, you can even still find some in Europe, like WDL Aviation in Germany... (flies a lot for AB).

best regards
Thomas
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:09 pm

There remain more than 200 variants of the Bae 146/RJ range of aircraft in service all over world right now.

A further 50 or so in storage and many scrapped.

A favourite scrapping location being Kemble.

Numbers stored at Southend, Norwich and Kemble among others.

Swiss European
City Jet
Brussels Airlines
Titan
Malmo Aviation
TNT freight franchisees
32 Sqd RAF
and indeed several operated by BAE as staff shuttles can still be seen in the UK.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:09 pm

One could say that aircraft was the original RJ. Air Wisconsin flew them back in the 80s in UA colors.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 pm

If only they could have gotten an engine supplier on board to convert her to two engines, would have been a bit louder but might have prolonged her service life.
The views were wonderful out the windows, other than the ATR's are there any other pax a/c with high wings?
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
One of my favorite planes.

+1 From a passenger POV as well as a former ramp agent POV I loved the plane. However it is obsolete. I don't have any numbers but newer A/C in the 85-100 seat range cost much less to operate and maintain. Also the 146 has a much shorter range than current planes in its class. Also the Lycoming engines were so problematic that many said that BAE stood for Bring Another Engine. Mechanics told me that the 146 was job security for them.

Quoting wozza1975 (Thread starter):
Whisper Jet

That's because all the noise was inside.  
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:17 pm

Quoting william (Reply 4):
One could say that aircraft was the original RJ

You could, if the Yak-40 hadn't been there 15 years earlier.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:20 pm

Quoting william (Reply 4):
One could say that aircraft was the original RJ.

Sorry, but surely that was the 60-65 seat Fokker F28-1000 first announced in 1962.

The BAe146 dates from 1983 !!
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:26 pm

One in Calgary flying with North Cariboo Air until January. Being replace by 2 RJ100, first to arrive next week. In Kemble right now, second will arrive early next year. It was the one flying for Titan on lease.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 8):
The BAe146 dates from 1983 !!

The design is a decade older than that it was originally a Hawker Siddeley project however was shelved as a result of removal of government seed finance !
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:33 pm

In the US, some are being converted to firebombers to replace the rapidly aging fleet that is currently used.

-DiamondFlyer
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:48 am

Thanks for all the info guys.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:50 am

They still fly from LCY.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:03 am

TNT have about 20 as freighters. but they are slowly leaving the fleet aswell. The RAAF took over their quick changes
for OPS in Afghanistan.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:20 am

Anyone wants a scheduled flight in a 146 in Europe, go to the SN BA (Sabena "reborn") website and you will find a wide variety of inter-European flights to/from Brussels on 146s (aka RJ100s). The website claims that there are still 12 in the fleet, way down on earlier totals, and still shrinking

I especially enjoy when they fly overhead my house descending into Brussels at about 25km out and at FL30 or just less, then there is the absolutely unique scream as the flaps are deployed. The world will be a less varied place when they are finally gone from the SN BA fleet!
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:39 am

The Antonov AN-148 bears more than a passing resemblance to the 146 but only has two engines...


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This more recently developed aircraft should be able to fly 146 missions more efficiently but has not sold in large numbers. I'm not sure why.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:47 am

There might not be many BAE 146 still flying, but there are still many of the updated version (introduced 1993) AVRO RJ70, RJ85 and RJ 100. I fly every other week with ARJ85 or ARJ 100 MMX-BMA with Malmo Aviation. CityJet fly them regurarly to LCY as well.

Quoting par13del (Reply 5):
If only they could have gotten an engine supplier on board to convert her to two engines, would have been a bit louder but might have prolonged her service life.

They developed a 2 engine version, RJX I believe. I think it even started test flight phase. BAE cancelled it due to lack of demand.

From a passenger standpoint, I love it. It's a bit cramped in 3+3 configuration with heavy pax load, byt my flights are usually just 50-55 minutes.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:12 am

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 17):
They developed a 2 engine version, RJX I believe.

No, that was also a quad.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:13 am

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 3):
Titan
Quoting whiteguy (Reply 9):
It was the one flying for Titan on lease.

Titan just retired its last example and sold it off to North Cariboo.

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 17):
They developed a 2 engine version, RJX I believe.

The RJX was "just" a modernized RJ with 4 engines. I think the prototype is on display at MAN.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:34 am

Quoting william (Reply 4):
Air Wisconsin flew them back in the 80s in UA colors

As did PSA and Air Cal in the US
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:00 am

I flew it for the first time a couple years ago, AF Cityjet RJ100 CDG-FLR, The flex take-off at CDG was nothing to mention but the return flight was more fun.

As for the view I had chosen a window seat as always and ended up with a plug due to the proximity of the #2 engine compressor/turbine. Fortunately I could move and get a real window ! Great to watch the Alps.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:52 am

Quoting bohica (Reply 6):
Lycoming engines were so problematic that many said that BAE stood for Bring Another Engine. Mechanics told me that the 146 was job security for them.
http://www.b737.org.uk/aircraftnicknames.htm

Slightly off topic, but you can see the maintenance (and other) issues reflected in the sheer number of nicknames this plane has in the list found at the link posted above. My favourite is '4 oil leaks connected by an electrical fault'. 

The whole list is an entertaining read, btw.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:01 am

As mentioned Malmö Aviation TF has a bunch (almost the entire fleet) and they seem to make the Avros profitable on domestic routes, however they are to soon be replaced by Bombardier CSeries.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:50 am

Cobham Aviation here in Australia have a fleet of about 6 x Bae 146/RJ's that are used for freight and passenger transport.

http://www.cobham.com.au/

They even flew one for Qantas Link under National Jet previous name for Cobham:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qa...ospace_BAe-146-100_PER_Smith-1.jpg
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:27 am

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 16):
This more recently developed aircraft should be able to fly 146 missions more efficiently but has not sold in large numbers. I'm not sure why.

For better or worse, Westerners and their airlines tend to not trust planes from the CIS
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:39 am

The company doing the waterbomber conversions is TRONOSJET in Sommerside/Prince Edward Island:

http://www.tronosjet.com/

About 10 examples stored there last summer awaiting conversion.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:40 am

On a typical DUS-BHX Leg, same Traffic load, an E175 burns roughly half the fuel of a RJ85!
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:19 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 8):
Sorry, but surely that was the 60-65 seat Fokker F28-1000 first announced in 1962.

What is an RJ? A short-haul pure jet with accommodation for about 55 or 60 passengers?

If so how about the Caravelle? It first flew in 1955. It was designed to carry 55 to 65 passengers.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:00 pm

I'm flying on a WX one next month. DUB - CDG. Can't wait to go on "The Leafblower"  
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:15 pm

The VFW614 was built in the early 70's. An RJ ahead of its time. Cool aircraft if you ask me!

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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:33 pm

I remember flying on Air BC BAE 146-200 from CYXD-CYYC-CYXD on the shuttle service.

Also YYC-DEN-YYC and YEG-DEN-YEG on the BAE-146-200 on Air BC. Great Airplane for the mission, and was always comfortable.

Thanks,

Aaron
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:34 pm

Quoting wozza1975 (Thread starter):
Do they not fly anywhere anymore?

Even though BA Cityexpress, the largest operator at LCY, no longer operates them, 24 per cent of flights into and out of LCY are flown by the Avro RJ85 (14 per cent) and the Avro RJ100 (10 per cent).

The prime operator of the RJ85 at LCY is Cityjet flying on behalf of AF. The prime LCY operator of the RJ100 is LX.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:42 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 5):
If only they could have gotten an engine supplier on board to convert her to two engines, would have been a bit louder but might have prolonged her service life.
The views were wonderful out the windows, other than the ATR's are there any other pax a/c with high wings?

The Q400/Dash-8s come to mind
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:25 pm

Having twice flown on an RJ100 I can't say I found it particularly pleasant. The shape of the fuselage meant that if you were in a window seat you could't sit upright (at least I couldn't). It's natural successor in many markets the Embraer 170/190 is much nicer from a passengers point of view. At least in my opinion.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:49 pm

Quoting n729pa (Reply 20):
Quoting william (Reply 4):
Air Wisconsin flew them back in the 80s in UA colors

As did PSA and Air Cal in the US

As well as Westair on behalf of UA. Also Aspen (UA), Business Express (DL), Mesaba (NW) Presidential (CO/UA) and several startups operated the 146 series in the USA.



Quoting sturmovik (Reply 22):
http://www.b737.org.uk/aircraftnicknames.htm

Thanks for the link.  
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:04 pm

I flew a PSA BAE 146 from LAX to SFO on a stormy morning many years ago. I loved that little plane. With the storm, it was like riding a roller coaster. Passengers included about 50 Japanese school girls who screamed every time the plane hit turbulence - which was about every 30 seconds. We all finally burst out laughing - the girls included when they realized how much noise they were making. It was a funny flight.

As a side note, wasn't it a PSA 146 that crashed north of LAX when a passenger broke into the cockpit and attacked the pilots?
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 8):
One could say that aircraft was the original RJ.
Sorry, but surely that was the 60-65 seat Fokker F28-1000 first announced in 1962.

Or BAE's own 1-11 "bus-stop jet" - although I am not certain anyone ever used it as that suggests.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:23 pm

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 36):
As a side note, wasn't it a PSA 146 that crashed north of LAX when a passenger broke into the cockpit and attacked the pilots?

Flight 1771 crashed in the Santa Ana Hills. The whole story can be found here:

http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-pa1771.shtml
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Mahan Air in Iran probably offers the cheapest rides on BAe-146s. And the An-148, as stated above, is far from similar! The Antonov is just newer and more comfortable, although a bit louder inside.

I still love them though, because it differs from most other airliners.

As fuelburn goes, it roughly is in the category of an A319... I once had the chance to compare the estimate fuel burn on two Swiss flights, one with a filly loaded A319, the other a fully loaded AR1... the BAe uses 100kg less for an hour of flight time. Same route, same day, same direction, 2 hours difference in std...
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:33 pm

I'm very sorry, but the term "Whisper Jet" belongs to Eastern Airlines and always will. So there!
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:34 pm

Quoting Geo772 (Reply 34):
Having twice flown on an RJ100 I can't say I found it particularly pleasant. The shape of the fuselage meant that if you were in a window seat you could't sit upright (at least I couldn't). It's natural successor in many markets the Embraer 170/190 is much nicer from a passengers point of view. At least in my opinion.

They where very nice planes from a passenger point of view when they where 5 abreast, but economics didn´t allow that to continue.

best regards
Thomas
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:57 pm

Quoting n729pa (Reply 20):
As did PSA and Air Cal in the US

There are several, good pics in the photo database of former AirCal (OC) BAe 146s in full AA livery after the merger in 1987. They didn't fly long for AA, but it's great to see them in the full color scheme.

I was cabin crew on the BAe 146 for a short time. It was a great airplane to work.

The two things I remember best about that plane were the unique sound when the flaps were extended and the short length of the evacuation slides.

When ZW got the 146 in the early to mid-80s, it was very unusual to see a commuter/regional airline in the US flying jets. The only other commuter airline flying jets at that time that I can recall was Britt Airways of Terre Haute, Indiana (HUF). They flew the BAC 1-11.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:04 pm

Quoting Sandgroper (Reply 24):

Cobham Aviation here in Australia have a fleet of about 6 x Bae 146/RJ's that are used for freight and passenger transport.

http://www.cobham.com.au/

They even flew one for Qantas Link under National Jet previous name for Cobham:

Cobham operates 11 passenger 146 aircraft (2x 146-100 [VH-NJC, NJR], 2x -200 [NJG, YAE], 2x -300 [NJL, NJN] and 5x RJ100s [NJH, NJI, NJP, NJQ, NJY]), plus 3 freighters for a total of 14 146s in their fleet. All of the pax 146s (not the RJ100s), plus many more that have since left the fleet for other airlines, previously flew for QantasLink.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:28 pm

It was a great airplane, but it was also a fuel guzzler. It uses more than twice the fuel that a CRJ-700 would for a simliar type of mission. I do think they still fly quite a bit of the LCY flights, and that is probably the best place to go and see them these days.

I miss the plane from the ZW days. It was a quiet and smooth airplane (Aside from the noise caused by airflow changes while the flaps were in transit from 0 to 18), and you never experienced landings the way you did in this airplane (it was so smooth and quiet you could barely even hear the wheels touch the pavement). Add to it the short field capabilities of this airplane, and it was a treat to work with.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:29 pm

Quoting tommy1808 (Reply 41):

SN still operate their Avro RJs in 2+3 Y config. Very spacious and comfortable; better than 3+3 on Boeing / Airbus narrow bodies.
However they were cramped on BA in 3+3 Y config, especially on a full 2hr + flight LCY-MAD.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 19):

The RJX was shelved in 2001 after 9/11 hit airlines hard. BE and KB were to be launch customers. One of the (?three) Avro RJX test aircraft is indeed parked at MAN in the visitor centre and is open to the public. Sad. Will miss these birds as they become rarer in Europe.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:34 pm

I flew on an Avro RJ 85 (AR8) operated by CityJet in August of this year (2013), DUB-CDG. It was my first time on the type, and it was a unique experience when looking outside the window to see the underside of the wing. Otherwise, it felt like most any other flight. I don't know how much longer they'll be operated, so I'm glad I took the opportunity.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:35 pm

Quoting Mark2fly1034 (Reply 33):
The Q400/Dash-8s come to mind

Ha, and UP has a few flying around my head, my bad.  
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:55 pm

Quoting n729pa (Reply 20):
Quoting william (Reply 4):Air Wisconsin flew them back in the 80s in UA colors
As did PSA and Air Cal in the US

Forgot about those operators, especially the ones that operated in California. Made for an easy plane to land at Burbank. Truly was the first "regional" jet here in the states. American Eagle flying Shorts 330s or whatever was no competition to Air Wisky flying to Bae s for United (Connection or Express?) at ORD.
 
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RE: What Happened To The Bae 146 "Whisper Jet"?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 42):
The two things I remember best about that plane were the unique sound when the flaps were extended and the short length of the evacuation slides.

Indeed. I had flown in several 146s in the US (Air Wisconsin, as United Express, mostly DEN-ASE-DEN) and in Europe (Crossair flew them on BSL-BCN-BSL and even GVA-BCN-GVA for a while), and I was used to that peculiar noise. But in 1996 I took a Qantas Airlink flight from AYQ to CNS operated by an RJ85, and the captain thought it convenient to assure the passengers that the loud noise we would hear a few minutes after take off (at flap retraction) was absolutely normal. If you didn't know about it, it could be slightly alarming.

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