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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:20 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 46):
Miami must work from RTB….all the residents there want to go to TX, MSY or MIA. I was surprised when TA dropped it a few years back.

Thanks for your insight! I guess it does make sense for AA to just increase frequency over here to MIA than add a JFK flight. I remember TA operating the MIA - RTB flight on Sundays (and 10 years ago, SOL Air on Friday nights).

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 49):
EWR-RTB has been run seasonally in the past but it doesn't look to be happening for W14.

Wow! I was unaware UA had operated the route in the past.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:39 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 48):
IMHO, If the tour operator really puts pressure, UA EWR-RTB once per week high season may happen.

Tour Operator (at least the kinds that operate to RTB) means zero to UA. Now, seat guarantees maybe.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 48):
If not that much pressure, UA may be keen to fly IAD-RTB once per week high season instead and get feed from the North East via IAD and not congested EWR.

I don't see IAD-RTB will never happen.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 49):
EWR-RTB has been run seasonally in the past but it doesn't look to be happening for W14.

might be loaded in March…with their Winter update.

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 50):
Thanks for your insight! I guess it does make sense for AA to just increase frequency over here to MIA than add a JFK flight. I remember TA operating the MIA - RTB flight on Sundays (and 10 years ago, SOL Air on Friday nights)

Almost zero VFR to NYC…..but there are lots of traditional ties with MIA, MSY and TX (expats).
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:54 pm

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 34):
So how's the beach at LIR these days?   

Well I'm from Hawaii and its hard for me to like any other surf destination other than my homeland,but Costa rica is by far my favorite place to go.Ive been from Tamarindo to the costa ricas panama border surfing all the way down…Beautiful scenery not as much people to deal with in the water while surfing like Hawaii,empty surf spots are a surfers dream…But only thing population is growing from the first time i went since the early 90's when there was more dirt roads now almost all roads are paved which can bring good and bad IMO..
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:27 am

According to La Nación AV/TA has capitulated and is pulling the plug on SJO-MIA (used to be LACSA's darling route) effective next week. It's all downhill from here.

Quoting dlflynhayn (Reply 52):
Costa rica is by far my favorite place to go.Ive been from Tamarindo to the costa ricas panama border surfing all the way down…Beautiful scenery not as much people to deal with in the water

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:56 pm

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 53):

According to La Nación AV/TA has capitulated and is pulling the plug on SJO-MIA (used to be LACSA's darling route) effective next week. It's all downhill from here.

I bet AA, NK will request a new frequency sooner than later!
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:33 am

Quoting juanchito (Reply 37):
Starts January 29 daily between Guatemala and San Jose
El vuelo sera operado por Airbus A320
LR635 GUA-SJO 15:05 - 16:40
LR634 SJO-GUA 10:45 - 12:25

As a result, SJO-GUA will be gradually increased as follows:
January 29: AV SJO-GUA 7x to 12x weekly
February 17: AV SJO-GUA 12x to 14x weekly

Since the "de-hubbing process" at SJO last year, the current LR SJO-GUA-LAX 7x weekly is the only segment served by AV/TA.
The airline will reverse again their intentions on the SJO-GUA segment, taking into the account their two daily flights before 2013.
Furthermore, Copa Airlines is steadily attending that sector: CM PTY-SJO-GUA 7x weekly with E90 and CM/P5 BOG-PTY-SJO-GUA 5x weekly with E90 as well.




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Quoting MGASJO (Reply 54):
I bet AA, NK will request a new frequency sooner than later!

TA /AV had gradually downgraded that segment to the shy TA/LR SJO-MIA 7x weekly with E90,
This strange movement encouraged to AA MIA-SJO 28x weekly with 757, all the way.
NK SJO-FLL is 11x weekly at this time: 7x daylight + 4x as "red-eyes."
Don't forget the current B6 FLL-SJO 7x weekly.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:43 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 55):
LR SJO-GUA-LAX 7x weekly is the only segment served by AV/TA.

GUA-LAX seems to be a license to print money for the carriers on the route. AV and DL.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:19 pm

Just wondering if LAS is a good destination for CentAms?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:00 pm

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 53):
According to La Nación AV/TA has capitulated and is pulling the plug on SJO-MIA (used to be LACSA's darling route) effective next week. It's all downhill from here.

Will AV begin to pull the plug on other Central America - MIA routes and just move it all through SAL?
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:51 pm

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 58):
Will AV begin to pull the plug on other Central America - MIA routes and just move it all through SAL?

They reduced GUA-MIA to 3 weekly and eliminated TGU-MIA as well as SJO-MIA. Why they are keeping GUA-MIA is beyond me. Let's see how long the others are there for. Because of this AA already increased GUA to 4 daily. I'm begging for B6 to start FLL-GUA as NK is only 5 a week.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:20 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 57):
Just wondering if LAS is a good destination for CentAms?

Panamanians love LAS but that's not the real reason why CM flies double daily there.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:37 pm

What's the other reason(s) CM flies to LAS?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:56 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 61):

What's the other reason(s) CM flies to LAS?
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 60):
Panamanians love LAS but that's not the real reason why CM flies double daily there.

Who doesn't like Las Vegas? I'm sure some of the demand for the route comes from PTY but what actually fills the plane is the chunk of routes from all over Latin America that connects the flights. What CM has done at PTY is admirable.


Note: I'm using what I think is the logical reason they fly the route, it may be probable that I am missing key information.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:03 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 61):
What's the other reason(s) CM flies to LAS?

Cause LAS makes money for CM

Quoting avi8 (Reply 59):
Why they are keeping GUA-MIA is beyond me

I would bet they are trying to keep the route authority or something. There are also a number of sizeable cargo contracts out of GUA, perhaps something to do with that.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:58 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 63):
I would bet they are trying to keep the route authority or something.

Don't think so, or else they wouldn't have canceled GUA-MEX, GUA-ORD, or GUA-CUN.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:30 pm

Today Aerolineas Sosa started flying with a mix of Saab 340 and CRJ200 5 weekly SAP-GUA-SAP and 7 weekly TGU-GUA-TGU

Aircraft utilization will be. TGU-GUA-SAP-GUA-TGU monday throw friday.
On weekends only TGU-GUA-TGU.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:57 pm

That is horrible utilisation on the CRJ…..wish them the best.

Looks like (according to the OAG thread) UA is throwing in the towel on IAD-SAL after march. OR maybe just going to codeshare with AV.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:00 pm

Maybe not that interesting but DL is switching the morning flight GUA-ATL from a 73G to a 757 on a daily basis.This means that on Saturdays DL will fly 6 daily 757's to GUA.

LAX-GUA 2x 757
ATL-GUA 3x 757
JFK-GUA 1x 757

This is Saturdays only.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:42 pm

Quoting avi8 (Reply 67):
LAX-GUA 2x 757
ATL-GUA 3x 757
JFK-GUA 1x 757

NIce. probably helps with crew rotation issues at GUA. Also know the DL cargo folks were adamant about needing the 752 there…..guess there are some good cargo contracts.

How is the JFK flight doing?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:27 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 68):
How is the JFK flight doing?

Hopefully good, they started with a 737-700 and now they have a 757-200

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:13 am

A new surprise for Guanacaste: Frontier Airlines is already operating the Chicago O’ Hare - Liberia service and complementing UA ORD-LIR 2x weekly; both on a seasonal basis.

F9 042.......ORD 07:00.........LIR 12:08...........Fr
F9 043.......LIR 13:05...........ORD 18:11.........Fr

I’ve also seen on the screens: F9 STL-LIR as isolated charter flights. This is just the first step !




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Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 58):
Will AV begin to pull the plug on other Central America - MIA routes and just move it all through SAL?

More reductions for the Miami - Central America service on Avianca:

SJO-MIA: zero
SAL-MGA-MIA: 7x weekly
SAL-GUA-MIA: 3x weekly

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:46 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 70):
SAL-MGA-MIA: 7x weekly

If AA had a face, we could all imagine what it'd look like after hearing those news.
No or only token Star Alliance presence on GUA/MGA/SJO-MIA non-stop markets can't be good.
Maybe something for CM to study?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:33 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 69):
Hopefully good, they started with a 737-700 and now they have a 757-200

I checked some random advance loads and it didn't look that hot. but maybe it is a late booking market.

IMHO, the move to a 752 is driven by crew /cargo needs.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:17 pm

Looks like 9N is increasing RTB-BZE….i guess we'll see an announcement soon. There is a teaser of sorts on their FB page.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:22 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 71):
If AA had a face, we could all imagine what it'd look like after hearing those news.
No or only token Star Alliance presence on GUA/MGA/SJO-MIA non-stop markets can't be good.

UA used to bear its code in all the flights liking Central America and Miami on the former TACA.
These reductions on AV [Central America-Miami] is unexplained to me, taking into account how profitable is that segment.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:56 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 73):
Looks like 9N is increasing RTB-BZE….i guess we'll see an announcement soon. There is a teaser of sorts on their FB page.

It is up on their Facebook page now…..

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tropic-Air-Belize/340653164591
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:41 pm

Copa announces Montreal, Fort Lauderdale and Georgetown, Guyana starting July 2014.

PTY-YUL x4/week, starting July 3
PTY-FLL x4/week, starting July 11
PTY-GEO x2/week, starting July 11

[Edited 2014-01-22 08:47:02]

[Edited 2014-01-22 08:47:55]
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:22 pm

Quoting greenmow (Reply 76):
Copa announces Montreal, Fort Lauderdale and Georgetown, Guyana starting July 2014.

PTY-YUL x4/week, starting July 3
PTY-FLL x4/week, starting July 11
PTY-GEO x2/week, starting July 11

[Edited 2014-01-22 08:47:02]

All I can say on behalf of Belize is   

As a market GEO is tremendously underserved and so makes sense…especially if it means connections to anything other than the eastern seaboard of the USA.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:53 pm

Quoting greenmow (Reply 76):
Copa announces Montreal, Fort Lauderdale and Georgetown, Guyana starting July 2014.

PTY-YUL x4/week, starting July 3
PTY-FLL x4/week, starting July 11
PTY-GEO x2/week, starting July 11

So PTY-YYZ doesn't go daily but CM opens PTY-YUL. Surely CM was given YUL frequencies but no YYZ and without hesitation grabbed those.
PTY-FLL is quite odd if PTY-MIA is so well served. My guess is cruise lines had something to do with that. Peopel in north Dade County going to love that. Wishing those FLL flights being routed via DAV.
PTY-GEO is an unusual addition to CM network, but GEO lack so much connectivity with the rest of the Américas that given what CM observed @ POS with Guyanese passengers, CM decided to fly over-there before other most logical new destinations.

Still waiting to see SFO, MSY, (HOU), DFW, JAX, BZE, SCU, GCM, BGI, PBM, AQP, CIX, SSA, CWB and DAV (return to) on CM network.
New destinations in Argentina and/or Venezuela - very doubtful these days.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:29 pm

Also if CM didn't open FLL, B6 would. this is probably as much as a preemptive strike than anything else
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:34 pm

How is CM performing on their PTY KBOS route? Any chance of seeing CM fly PTY to MYR? I would think the route might have alot of potential.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:10 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 77):
As a market GEO is tremendously underserved and so makes sense

Iquitos, Peru is also underserved from abroad.
However, CM IQT-PTY is still operating as 2x weekly.




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Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 78):
PTY-FLL is quite odd if PTY-MIA is so well served.

NK FLL-PTY is barely operating as thrice a week.
Ft. Lauderdale isn't deperately waiting for additional flights to PTY.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:22 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 81):
Iquitos, Peru is also underserved from abroad.
However, CM IQT-PTY is still operating as 2x weekly.

I popular rumors are true IQT is the worse performing station for CM…even worse than LIR.

IMHO, the need to add frequencies to make it more attractive to the everyday traveller. the only people that like 2Xweekly service are tourists. Counterintuitive I know, but I have seen it work time and time again.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:14 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 82):
IQT is the worse performing station for CM…even worse than LIR.

The coming CM PTY-GEO is once again opting for the shy 2x weekly service. What's the sense in that ?
On the contrary, CM PTY-LAS is solidly operating as 12x weekly.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:52 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 82):
I popular rumors are true IQT is the worse performing station for CM…even worse than LIR.

It's very likely CM will keep under-performer PTY-IQT as CM is looking to increase frequencies to LIM and probably open CIX and AQP in the near future.
Problem with CM @ IQT is lack of promotion. Tourists travelling to the Peruvian Amazon still visit the region via LIM as they're unaware they could already arrive to/depart from IQT.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:35 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 83):
The coming CM PTY-GEO is once again opting for the shy 2x weekly service. What's the sense in that ?

I would agree. If you going to take the risk, you might as well go all in (min 4X) and give the route the optimal chance to succeed. Capture the entire market and then weed out the non-performing days to develop a base with which to grow from.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 84):
Tourists travelling to the Peruvian Amazon still visit the region via LIM as they're unaware they could already arrive to/depart from IQT.

I agree. 90% of the battle is service awareness.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:29 pm

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:42 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 86):
Lord have mercy.

http://www.lapagina.com.sv/nacionale...con-los-que-operara-en-El-Salvador

And it gets worse

http://www.elsalvador.com/mwedh/nota...leta.asp?idCat=47673&idArt=8496956

And why would these be any bad news? Its time to break the monopoly of Avianca in Central America, and its also time someone pays tribute to a man who was cowardly murdered by the thugs in charge of El Salvador, backed by the CIA and US government, in the 1980's.

Way to go VECAS, a big welcome.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:47 pm

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 87):
And why would these be any bad news? Its time to break the monopoly of Avianca in Central America,

I would say it is a doupoloy.

BTW, does anyone know if the airport closer to downtown San Salvador is open to intentional traffic…like business aviation?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:51 pm

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 87):
nd its also time someone pays tribute to a man who was cowardly murdered by the thugs in charge of El Salvador, backed by the CIA and US government, in the 1980's.

Agreed. Something of importance should be named after him. He recently got a Highway named after him (among many other things). There is no need for whole country to be called "Romero"

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 87):

And why would these be any bad news? Its time to break the monopoly of Avianca in Central America

By bringing in a "company" funded by Venezuelan Government $$? That is not the way to do it.
There is enough Venezuelan intervention going on by way of ALBA

Elections on Feb 2, 2014.. I hope this madness ends there.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:09 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 89):
By bringing in a "company" funded by Venezuelan Government $$? That is not the way to do it.
There is enough Venezuelan intervention going on by way of ALBA

Elections on Feb 2, 2014.. I hope this madness ends there.

Oh, so went its ALBA its called intervention, so the IMF, World Bank, USAID, those are the good guys right? So in that case its called help.

Funny thing is, both are exactly the same crap, handouts by foreign countries are never free, but pretending to call what the gringos have done in our countries help is not only ludicrous, but rather quite insulting.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:22 pm

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 90):
Oh, so went its ALBA its called intervention, so the IMF, World Bank, USAID, those are the good guys right? So in that case its called help.

Does the IMF, World Back and USAID have branded Supermarkets, Gas Stations, Hospitals, Banks and manufacturing plants?

Have you seen a World Bank Supermaket? I have seen an "ALBA Alimentos", i have seen "ALBA Petroloeos"

That is the problem.

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 90):
Funny thing is, both are exactly the same crap, handouts by foreign countries are never free, but pretending to call what the gringos have done in our countries help is not only ludicrous, but rather quite insulting.

If you think ALBA does the same thing, why let them? Do two wrongs make a right? Repeat a bad idea twice make sense?

That is why our region is in the state it is in. We should be fixing things, instead doing the same "just because the other guy did it too"

[Edited 2014-01-23 12:26:25]
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:34 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 91):
Does the IMF, World Back and USAID have branded Supermarkets, Gas Stations, Hospitals, Banks and manufacturing plants?

Have you seen a World Bank Supermaket? I have seen an "ALBA Alimentos", i have seen "ALBA Petroloeos"

That is the problem.

Nope, but I've seen Tela Railroad Company, Standard Fruit Company,etc. using Nemagon, DDT, etc. on people who until today suffer from cancer.

I've also seen the reports of how USAID use their healthcare programs in Guatemala to inoculate syphillis on GT's indigenous population.

So if I had to choose, give me ALBA any day, at least they have not purposely inoculated anyone with diseases, or poured DDT or Nemagon on population with prior knowledge of the effects they have as carcinogens.

So don't even try to compare the evil of Chavez band to the gringos, nobody will ever come close to what the gringos did in Latin America.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:44 pm

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 92):
So don't even try to compare the evil of Chavez band to the gringos, nobody will ever come close to what the gringos did in Latin America

Again - To fix whatever issues there are is not a matter of "payback" - its a matter of stopping influence from both sides equally. People need to stop justifying the future with the past. The past happened, yes its awful - let make sure it doesnt happen again. Move on.

Those are the effects of a weak Government. Now, is ALBA making local governments stronger? No.

What about supporting local supermarkets? instead of driving them out of business by keeping prices artificially low because Venezuela pays for it?

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 92):
So if I had to choose, give me ALBA any day,

You can choose. Venezuela is right there, you can move there.. but i would bring some toilet paper - they have shortages.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:13 pm

Has anyone actually seen the schedule for PTY-GEO from CM?

I only have seen FLL and YUL since the announcement.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:28 pm

RE: VECA Airlines.. here is a good article on how it is getting funded

"Un hallazgo de la investigación fue el del otorgamiento de un préstamo de 14 millones de dólares por parte de Alba Petróleos a un ciudadano panameño. Este es el presidente de la naciente aerolínea Vuelos Económicos Centroamericanos (VECA)."

http://www.elfaro.net/es/201401/noticias/14423/
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:09 am

Wow, corrupt politicians favoring some oligarchs in one country...where have I seen this before???

Maybe you should find out a little bit more of how TACA, SAHSA, etc. were funded in their time, not a very clean history.

Negating the past is why this s**t happens in the future, the problem is that now the funding doesn't come from the North, it comes from the South. The USA doesn't give a s**t about this region anymore, so its for others to take, just learn to deal with it.

As far as the airline is safe and can help the people travel at fair prices I don't see what is the big fuss about it. It's ALBA's problem and Venezuela's people what they do with their money, after all they were democratically elected whether we like it or not.

I wish they'd fund me to start an airline as well, I have no moral issues about it. Business is business, move on.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:32 am

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 96):
Negating the past is why this s**t happens in the future, the problem is that now the funding doesn't come from the North, it comes from the South. The USA doesn't give a s**t about this region anymore, so its for others to take, just learn to deal with it.

No one is negating the past. It should be accepted, noted, learned from.

The funny thing is that now you are advocating for the same thing to happen agian. Seriously you are.

Quoting Wayfarer515 (Reply 96):
The USA doesn't give a s**t about this region anymore, so its for others to take, just learn to deal with it

Excuse me "to take". You are willing your country to be taken over again? That a real shame.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:32 am

Oh look we've diverted from the core topic...
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:32 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 94):
Has anyone actually seen the schedule for PTY-GEO from CM?

I did a research in some reliable GDS sources and found nothing.
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