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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:54 pm

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 149):
I just scratch my head and wonder how there can't be demand for direct service (I'm sure they could fill an E-190).

The demand is there, definitely for a MSY-SAP but neither AV nor UA are interested to fly that route.
If TA returns to MSY as AV it'll be from SAL and it seems UA isn't interested in P2P anymore. UA (then CO) used to fly P2P routes out of MSY and SAT.
I've my doubts if MSY could be on CM radar.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:46 am

AV SJO-JFK will apparently resume their services from March 16th.




VIva Colombia might be SJO bound.




The intended airline mentioned before and called "Ticos Air" has failed to cumply all their requirments to operate at SJO.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:21 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 151):
AV SJO-JFK will apparently resume their services from March 16th.

Update: The resume of the New York City service out of San Jose will be route as AV [SJO-SAL-JFK] 7x weekly and following the predominant "red-eye" schedule.
Strange move regarding both DL SJO-JFK 7x weekly with 73W and AA SJO-JFK 5x weekly with 738.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:02 pm

Does anyone know when Iberia's A330's start flying to PTY??
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:49 am

Detailed schedule on AV SJO-SAL-JFK

AV 670.....SJO 17:00........SAL 18:15............Daily
AV 670.....SAL 19:50........JFK 02:35+1........Daily

AV 671.....JFK 04:35........SAL 07:35............Daily
AV 671.....SAL 08:30........SJO 09:45............Daily
Effective: March 16th

As a result, AV SJO-SAL will operate as 28x weekly plus the LR SJO-MGA-SAL 7x weekly with ATR-42.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:06 am

UA modified their frequencies from both Chicago and Washington:

UA ORD-SJO 2x weekly. Discontinued: March 31
UA IAD-SJO 3x weekly. Discontinued: March 31

UA ORD-SJO 1x weekly. Filter period: April 01 - June 04
UA IAD-SJO 1x weekly. Filter period: April 01 - June 04

UA ORD-SJO 2x weekly. Filter period: June 05 - August 18
UA IAD-SJO 3x weekly. Filter period: June 05 - August 18

UA ORD-SJO 1x weekly. August 19 onward
UA IAD-SJO 1x weekly. August 19 onward


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:38 am

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:16 pm

LH to fly 5 times per week FRA-PTY from www.prensa.com in Spanish

At the Berlin Tourism Fair the Panama Tourist Authority and LH got to an agreement opening the way to LH to start before years end FRA-PTY 5 times per week with A330 aircraft.
LH is still waiting to know how much the Panamanian government will subsidize the new route.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:55 pm

Wow, So PTY will have LH, TP, IB, AF, KL…only BA missing!

Seriously though, can PTY support this much EU service…..even huge cities with very healthy J demand (like IAH) sometimes struggle with that much EU capacity.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:25 am

Quoting juanchito (Reply 156):
Avianca suspends San Jose - Caracas

AV SJO-CCS 7x weekly will be suspended on April 07th whilst AV BOG-CCS will be downgraded from 21x to 7x weekly on April 01st.
From April 01st, AV BOG-PTY will be deployed as 14x with 319 + 7x with 330.




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From the last press release:

"Iberia (España), Condor (Alemania), AirFrance (Francia) y KLM (Holanda) son las aerolíneas que actualmente tienen conexiones entre Europa y Panamá. Europa, después de Sudamérica, fue la región que más turistas aportó a Panamá en 2013, incluso superando a Norteamérica."

Really?
I'm skeptical concerning if PTY-[MAD+FRA+CDG+AMS] is larger than PTY-[USA+Canada+Mexico].
Many North American stations such as MEX, MIA, JFK, EWR, IAH, CUN, LAX and LAS among others have multiple daily flights.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:12 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 155):

Should've done ORD-GUA, when TA originally flew it SJO was a tag on (before changing the tag on to SAL), but most of the traffic was to GUA.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:13 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 158):
Wow, So PTY will have LH, TP, IB, AF, KL…only BA missing!

People in the travel/tourism sector here keep saying BA will come after IB goes daily.
I think that if BA does fly here, the other airlines flying between Europe and Panama would have already grabbed so much premium connecting traffic that it might be best for BA to go after the LON-PTY+CMhub traffic and operate out of LGW.

However, what PTY needs right now is a direct Asian flight (be NH, OZ or BR) which would allow passengers NOT to need US/Canadian visas to fly the route.
Talking about Star Alliance, PTY isn't desperate for ET or SA here, TK, maybe.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:43 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 161):
People in the travel/tourism sector here keep saying BA will come after IB goes daily.
I think that if BA does fly here, the other airlines flying between Europe and Panama would have already grabbed so much premium connecting traffic that it might be best for BA to go after the LON-PTY+CMhub traffic and operate out of LGW.

BA did say they are looking at 4 788 destinations in the Americas. People took that to mean USA and Canada. But might be PAnama.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 161):
However, what PTY needs right now is a direct Asian flight (be NH, OZ or BR) which would allow passengers NOT to need US/Canadian visas to fly the route.
Talking about Star Alliance, PTY isn't desperate for ET or SA here, TK, maybe.

NZ would do just fine…..but NH would be better. TK might work very nicely….but do they have a mid size aircraft that con do it….the 332s can't
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:45 pm

Anyone know how DLs LAX-SJO/LIR flights are doing?

LAX-BZE has done really well (except for a brief breather in late Jan)….according to their seat map some June/July flights are already full…..
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:09 am

Quoting aer (Reply 160):
Should've done ORD-GUA, when TA originally flew it SJO was a tag on

Does UA EWR-GUA still operate today?
UA ORD-GUA 1x weekly might work in the future.
Speaking about GUA, my point is that UA would hardly fly from Chicago if Newark is not properly consolidated.




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Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 161):
People in the travel/tourism sector here keep saying BA will come after IB goes daily.

Agreed.
AF CDG-PTY 3x weekly started once KL AMS-PTY work on a daily basis.
As far as I know, London airports are experiencing shortage of free space to accomadate new itineraries.




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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 163):
how DLs LAX-SJO/LIR flights are doing?

Delta Air Lines. Los Angeles - San Jose and back.
...Filter period...............Passengers.................Available seats............Load factor
.....July 2013......................9437............................11 021........................86%
..August 2013....................9291............................11 220........................83%
September 2013................4516.............................7940..........................57%
Service started on July 01st 2013.
Source: US DoT

No accurate info yet on DL LAX-LIR as latest available data from the US DoT came from September 2013.
DL LAX-LIR 1x weekly commenced in December 2013.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:36 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 164):
Does UA EWR-GUA still operate today?
UA ORD-GUA 1x weekly might work in the future.
Speaking about GUA, my point is that UA would hardly fly from Chicago if Newark is not properly consolidated.

UA is flying know
IAH-GUA-IAH 22 weekly
EWR-GUA-EWR 4 weekly
KIAD-GUA-EWR 3 weekly


I think they could start a weekly flight to ORD maybe two weekly.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:52 am

I keep hearing reports here in BZE that local UA staff (CTO etc) have been given a directive to push BZE-EWR hard , even if it is to the detriment of IAH loads. The comments by the staff are that UA is anticipating a B6 startup on BZE soon and want to have a firm grip on the Belizean NY VFR travel. Unfortunately for UA….that disapora is located in Brooklyn and Queens and that is B6 territory.

UA doesn't want a repeat of LAX where DL has done a really good job of poaching UA's LAX-IAH-BZE
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:48 pm

TAME from Ecuador will definitely suspend EQ GYE-PTY 7x weekly with E90 which is bearing the CM code. Effective: March 16th.
As a result, the segment is now operated by CM PTY-GYE 21x weekly with 738.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:25 pm

AS per the OAG thread….

*DL JFK-GUA SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0
*DL LAX-SAL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:12 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 167):

TAME from Ecuador will definitely suspend EQ GYE-PTY 7x weekly with E90 which is bearing the CM code. Effective: March 16th.
As a result, the segment is now operated by CM PTY-GYE 21x weekly with 738

didn´t know TAME was "using" CM code on this route, do you know if they have further coperations for "local" Ecuador routes or it was only GYE - PTY?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:36 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 168):
*DL JFK-GUA SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.2>0

That is weird they did not operate that route on Sep, Oct and Nov last year. They started the route on Dec 21.
The flight is bookable in Delta.com
I think is the other way around

*DL JFK-GUA SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:56 am

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 169):
do you know if they have further coperations for "local" Ecuador routes or it was only GYE - PTY?

EQ PTY-UIO 3x weekly and EQ PTY-GYE started in 2010 and less than one year onward, both CM and EQ signed a mutual code-share agreement.
I only watched the CM designator on these routes, but the former plans included their domestic stations in Ecuador: Loja, Cuenca, Esmeraldas, Manta, Lago Agrio, Galapagos Islands and so forth.

https://www.copaair.com/sites/gs/en/noticias/pages/alianza-codigo-compartido-tame.aspx




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Quoting juanchito (Reply 170):
That is weird they did not operate that route on Sep, Oct and Nov last year. They started the route on Dec 21.

Delta Air Lines tends to operate selected flights in Latin America which are not deployed on a year-round basis.
For instance, Minneapolis - Liberia.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:10 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 168):
DL LAX-SAL


DL 433........LAX 00:10...........SAL 06:10............Daily...........737
DL 436........SAL 07:20...........LAX 11:35............Daily...........737
Effective: July 02, 2014

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:56 am

Anyone got news of the Costa Rican project of new airport in Cascajal ?
the main issue is the road to get there which is a shame, as that airport is necessary to compete with PTY and SAL.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:55 pm

El Salvador airport will change it's name to "Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez"
I think it is a bad idea.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:38 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 174):
"Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez"

Thats a mouthful!
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:42 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 174):
El Salvador airport will change it's name to "Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez"

Most likely the airport will be known as Aeropuerto Internacional Monseñor Romero but it'll take a whole generation to get that name used by everybody.
People still refer MGA as Las Mercedes and even SJO as El Coco.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:22 pm

Any news on the Ticos or Tica Air ?, I see Major confusions with the names for the passengers.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:22 pm

Quoting CM767 (Reply 177):
Any news on the Ticos or Tica Air ?, I see Major confusions with the names for the passengers.

Dunno about those but VECA has applied for some counter space at SAP.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:01 am

Quoting juanchito (Reply 174):

El Salvador airport will change it's name to "Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez"
I think it is a bad idea.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:37 pm

It was discuss last week and today this means that Delta will maintain the weekly route and increase it to two weekly on November.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL JFK-GUA SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:41 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL JFK-GUA SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2

So filing error last week? They are not increasing it to 2X in Nov…..Nov has 5 Saturdays hence the .2.

Now I wish they would load LAX-BZE for Sept/Oct too instead of taking a break. Those flights are going out Full to the brim.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:17 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 176):
People still refer MGA as Las Mercedes and even SJO as El Coco.

... And SAP as "La Mesa" when it's been "Ramon Villeda Morales" for over 40 years.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:24 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 148):
It never too late…….have you see the PDEWS between MSY and Central America? Its not MIA but its not shabby.

They suck. MSYSAP is the largest and it's barely 10 PDEW. MSYBZE is 3 PDEW.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:40 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 183):
They suck. MSYSAP is the largest and it's barely 10 PDEW. MSYBZE is 3 PDEW.

Who can all fly through Houston (or MIA/DFW). Though to be fair there are dozens of folks heading to SAP that take buses from New Orleans to IAH to catch direct flights after paying cash for tickets at hte office near Gulfton though still not enough to make more traffic stick IMO, at least not yet.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 183):
They suck. MSYSAP is the largest and it's barely 10 PDEW. MSYBZE is 3 PDEW.

If you check with the really nice folks at the MSY airport (you know who you are!) they will tell you that the PDEW between MSY and (all of) Central America is about 200 PDEW….that is more than enough to support a flight to a hub in Central America. This doesn't even account for the traffic not showing up on those figure ….see below (which is sizeable)

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 184):
Who can all fly through Houston (or MIA/DFW). Though to be fair there are dozens of folks heading to SAP that take buses from New Orleans to IAH to catch direct flights after paying cash for tickets at hte office near Gulfton though still not enough to make more traffic stick IMO, at least not yet

As proven time and time again, PDEW while an important part of the decision making progress, is but a tiny bit of the overall evaluation process…..

I have friends that drive LFT/BTR-IAH and fly to SAP from there.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:07 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 185):
If you check with the really nice folks at the MSY airport (you know who you are!) they will tell you that the PDEW between MSY and (all of) Central America is about 200 PDEW….that is more than enough to support a flight to a hub in Central America. This doesn't even account for the traffic not showing up on those figure ….see below (which is sizeable)

Am I going to believe the nice folks at MSY, or actual MIDT numbers?

I'll take the latter. MSY-Central America is barely 25PDEW.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:38 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 186):
Am I going to believe the nice folks at MSY, or actual MIDT numbers?

Well it would appear that I have two sets of conflicting information here….
Could it be that you are both right and it is how you spin it to promote your positions? Your "raw" data may be right, theirs may be right when you include a catchment area, busses etc

Its is a pity that the MSY airport rep on a.net can't chime in
  

Lets see when AV announces MSY-SAL service, and what their loads turn out to be….
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:43 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 187):
Could it be that you are both right and it is how you spin it to promote your positions? Your "raw" data may be right, theirs may be right when you include a catchment area, busses etc

If there is a lot of charter traffic on the route, then it would not be accounted for in those numbers.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:33 am

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 173):
Anyone got news of the Costa Rican project of new airport in Cascajal ?

Hi, there !
The intended airport is still in a very preliminary stage.
I've been hearing about this ambitious project for almost 25 years and nothing official yet.
Al least, the modern highway 27 linking Orotina and San Jose is operating since 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXH2wMr0gAg




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Quoting juanchito (Reply 174):

El Salvador airport will change it's name to "Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez"

The main terminal is already loaded with references concerning to his legacy:





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Quoting CM767 (Reply 177):
Any news on the Ticos or Tica Air ?,

See reply 151.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:58 pm

Panama Tourist Authority #2, Tito Orillac announced on his social media yesterday that IB will increase frequencies from 5 per week up to daily in a couple of months.
This would mean that hopefully BA will return to PTY sometime. NO doubt, PTY and CM won't care if it'd be a LGW flight.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:22 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 190):

Panama Tourist Authority #2, Tito Orillac announced on his social media yesterday that IB will increase frequencies from 5 per week up to daily in a couple of months.



excellent news !!! interesting it they will change to A330 from current A340.

btw, any idea about AF loads ?? KL seems to be very solid, i.e. few weeks ago I traveled PTY - AMS - PTY and the first leg (772),was oversold by 8 ´people while the return (773) had around 20 empty seats only   
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:11 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 191):
btw, any idea about AF loads ??
http://economia.terra.com.co/grupo-a...05410VgnCLD2000000dc6eb0aRCRD.html

According to this link, loads are very good, they plan to add one frequency for the summer and another by October ending the year with 5.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:17 am

from today's Prensa:

http://www.prensa.com/impreso/economia/mas-vuelos-paris/300803

based on the information, CDG - PTY is having 90% loads with 80% bound for Panama , from Oct 27 AF will add 2 more frequencies up to 5 weekly
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:44 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 193):
based on the information, CDG - PTY is having 90% loads with 80% bound for Panama

What?!
Is that 80% really PTY bound passengers or passengers connecting w/CM with long lay-overs?
Well. talking about SkyTeam airlines, lets see if AZ after seeing what's gong on between KL/AF and CM, it decides there's something to do on a FCO-PTY route.
SU has flown charters to PTY, not sure if PTY would be on its radar now.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:32 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 194):
Well. talking about SkyTeam airlines, lets see if AZ after seeing what's gong on between KL/AF and CM, it decides there's something to do on a FCO-PTY route.
SU has flown charters to PTY, not sure if PTY would be on its radar now.

At some point PTY -EUROPE has to flatten out with all this capacity…..jsut not sustainable. I realise that there is a lot of trade, CM hub etc but PTY is starting to reach rarified air with the amount of EU lift is has.

If I was PTY I would hit the pause on europe and stating campaigning hard in Asia / Oceana. Not because you want to, but because you need to give the demand time to catch up the lift.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:04 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 195):
If I was PTY I would hit the pause on europe and stating campaigning hard in Asia / Oceana. Not because you want to, but because you need to give the demand time to catch up the lift.

Asian airlines will need Boeing 787 to fly non-stop and those routes could be some of the world longest. Even with CM hub, ultra long-haul might not work.
As any stop in Canada or U.S.A. will limit the number of passengers which may afford to travel the route, the compromise for PTY could be for an Asian airline to open an Asia-PTY route via ANC on any wide-body with the range to fly both Asia-ANC and ANC-PTY non-stop and I've believe neither Panama Tourist Authority nor CM is pushing for that. Be reminded ANC allows TWOV.
BR (now Star Alliance) return to PTY with TPE-ANC-PTY may be ideal since CM Star-Alliance colleagues OZ and NH are slow about opening a route to PTY. If that flight could be routed via a major Japanese airport that would add another stop but given the lack of Latin America - Asia flights, the flight might still be attractive. However, I'm not sure if the Japanese would allow BR to stop in Japan en-route between ANC and TPE.
Re: NZ in PTY: Distance wise from AKL, Star Alliance hub LIM might work better for NZ, but pretty sure PTY and CM would welcome a twice weekly NZ B77 AKL-RAR-PTY or AKL-RAR-PPT-PTY.
And the chances of seeing SA or ET in PTY, very remote.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:51 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 195):
At some point PTY -EUROPE has to flatten out with all this capacity…..jsut not sustainable. I realise that there is a lot of trade, CM hub etc but PTY is starting to reach rarified air with the amount of EU lift is has.

that's correct however we are not sure what is the roof yet  

Now, what I do understand is that most of the people traveling via PTY/doing conections are/were "regular" traffic which used to go via USA, So really really PTY is taking a bit of passangers from US/USA connecting carriers.  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:36 pm

TAP from Portugal has unveiled their plans to start serving Panama City as shown:

TP 131......LIS 12:00..........BOG 15:55...........Mo, Tu, Th, Sa...........332
TP 131......BOG 16:55........PTY 18:25............Mo, Tu, Th, Sa..........332
TP 131......PTY 19:40.........LIS 11:00+1..........Mo, Tu, Th, Sa...........332
Effective: July 01, 2014

The reliable GDS sources are already displaying this information.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 56

Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:09 am

IB MAD-PTY 5x will be gradually upgraded to 6x weekly on June 02nd.
This route will be served by a mix of 330 and 340, in a near future.
It has been announced their daily operations soon. Perhaps a response for the intended TP LIS-BOG-PTY-LIS.

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