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AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:05 pm
by IDAWA
Following on this archived topic

Which Routes Now For AA's MD 80's (by CoachClass Apr 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)

I'd like to know which routes are currently being operated by American Airlines with MD-80 equipment, and, if possible, where the heavier MD-83s are operated as opposed to the MD-82

Thank you!

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:10 pm
by YYCSpotter
For sure, the MD-83s are operated on the DFW-YYC rotation, not sure of the others

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:25 pm
by sw733
The following routes are, I believe, exclusively MD-80

DFW-MCI
DFW-SJC
DFW-SAN
DFW-PDX (MD-83)
DFW-LAS
DFW-PHX
DFW-RNO
DFW-TUS
DFW-COS
DFW-DEN
DFW-STL
DFW-MSP
DFW-OMA
DFW-MSY
DFW-IAH
DFW-SAT
DFW-SEA (most if not all MD-83)
DFW-ATL

ORD-STL (some MD-83)
ORD-DFW
ORD-RSW
ORD-TPA

Many other routes operate some MD-80 equipment mixed in with others, including DFW-DTW, DFW-HSV, DFW-ICT, DFW-AUS, DFW-BHM, DFW-MCO, DFW-RSW, DFW-TPA



Note: These aren't all the routes, just the ones I knew of with little research.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:26 pm
by CyberEntomology
MCI-DFW is still being run on Super 80s. When I asked AA about it, all the MD80 routes under 90 minutes were going to be getting the AAirbus treatment (started with ICT-DFW on 9/16/13), but 90-120 minute routes were keeping the 80s for now (and MCI-DFW is about 2 minutes over the cutoff).

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:27 pm
by Osubuckeyes
I know they bring the MD-80/83 on a good portion of the flights from PHX-DFW/ORD as well as PDX-DFW. I know DFW-OKC/TUL also see a bunch.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:42 pm
by Tan Flyr
DFW-FAT has been MD80's for at least 17 or 18 years..Started with 727-023, then a mix of 023's and 223's..then about 1994 or 95 , IIRC, the switch to MD80's

Probabaly will be one of the last ones also...and it is a mix of 82's and 83's...with the 83's usually in the summer when it can be 105 degrees easily for the afternoon flight.

hope this helps.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:00 pm
by hivue
Just dropped my son off at DFW for a trip to BWI on an 82. He'll return on an MD-80 as well.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:11 pm
by deltaSEAalsaka
Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
DFW-SEA (most if not all MD-83)

That route is currently all 738s.

The only passenger MD service that SEA gets is on DL.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:13 pm
by crAAzy
DFW-MKE is 1 x daily MD80, 1x daily MD83, and then 2 or 3x daily Eagle (E145 or CR2) depending on the time of year.

[Edited 2014-01-08 07:28:31]

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:25 pm
by Lexy
AA at BNA is still heavy on the MD80's. There's some 738's mixed in from MIA, DFW, and LAX, but still a lot of flying on the MD80's.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by citationjet
Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
Many other routes operate some MD-80 equipment mixed in with others, including ... DFW-ICT

According to ICT's airport website, DFW-ICT has gone all A319s. I haven't seen an MD-80 here in a while.
http://www.flywichita.com/news/wp-co...ploads/monthly-flight-schedule.pdf

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:35 pm
by crAAzy
Quoting CyberEntomology (Reply 3):
When I asked AA about it, all the MD80 routes under 90 minutes were going to be getting the AAirbus treatment (started with ICT-DFW on 9/16/13), but 90-120 minute routes were keeping the 80s for now (and MCI-DFW is about 2 minutes over the cutoff).

I'm fairly certain that AA is not determining the A319 routes by times as there are several routes over 90-120 minutes that are seeing A319 service. CLT, CLE, BOG are just a few that come to mind right now.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:45 pm
by CyberEntomology
They started the initial deployment on the shortest routes (I expect because that's where the biggest efficiency payoff is), but as they get more aircraft, they'll be moving onto the longer routes.

Was nice for ICT to get some new aircraft love from AA, though. Usually we get the leftovers, despite being the place where so many 73s get their start. I expect we'll be about the last place DL retires their MD fleet  

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:46 pm
by avi8
AA doesn't seem to be that consistent with aircraft on routes. By consistent I mean that not all the 9am departures from Dallas to Tampa are MD-80's. It varies depending on the day so it's kind of hard to tell.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:11 pm
by sw733
Quoting deltaSEAalsaka (Reply 7):

That route is currently all 738s.

The only passenger MD service that SEA gets is on DL.
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 10):

According to ICT's airport website, DFW-ICT has gone all A319s. I haven't seen an MD-80 here in a while

Correct on both. My apologies. I'm sure other ones were wrong too  

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:25 pm
by olli
DFW-MEX
DFW-MTY
DFW-GDL
DFW-SJD (MD83)
DFW-PVR
DFW-ZIH
ORD-PVR (MD83)
ORD-SJD (Sat only, daily 738)


Best Regards,

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:30 pm
by 1337Delta764
Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
DFW-PHX

Not anymore. There are now some 738s on the route as well.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:46 pm
by sw733
OK, disregard my list...I am not too good at this  

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:49 pm
by treebeard787
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 16):
Quoting sw733 (Reply 2):
DFW-PHX

Not anymore. There are now some 738s on the route as well.

That's correct, today's schedule has 5 PHX-DFW flights on the MD-80 with one being the M83 and 4 on the 738. PHX-ORD is all MD-80 today, with all but one on the 83, but 738s show up on that route as well.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:06 pm
by Mainliner
PHL sees MD-80's from DFW, both -82's and -83's I believe.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:45 pm
by ouboy79
OKC-DFW has 7 daily MD-80s and its been like that for years. They added an additional flight that is flow by a CRJ recently.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:04 pm
by clickhappy
Quoting deltaSEAalsaka (Reply 7):
The only passenger MD service that SEA gets is on DL.

I don't think DL flies any MD's into KSEA. There was a one-off the other night, an MD-90 to/from MSP, but that was unusual.

AA also flys DFW-PSP on the MD-80.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:05 pm
by KD5MDK
Quoting CyberEntomology (Reply 12):

They started the initial deployment on the shortest routes (I expect because that's where the biggest efficiency payoff is), but as they get more aircraft, they'll be moving onto the longer routes.

Why is the biggest efficiency on the shorter routes? I thought that cruise fuel burn was the bigger saver compared to takeoff.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:21 pm
by slcguy
ORD-SLC and DFW-SLC have been mainly MD-80 routes for years, before that was 727s. There was a short time when some F-100s were used. In recent years there have been some Eagle CRJs mixed in.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:29 pm
by 1337Delta764
Quoting SLCGuy (Reply 23):
ORD-SLC and DFW-SLC have been mainly MD-80 routes for years, before that was 727s. There was a short time when some F-100s were used. In recent years there have been some Eagle CRJs mixed in.

Which is a bit strange, since SLC is a hot and high airport. This is the main reason why DL has historically avoided scheduling the MD-88 on SLC routes.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:31 pm
by dfwjim1
Another route is ORD - PBI - ORD, MD-83s.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:36 pm
by slcguy
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 24):
Which is a bit strange, since SLC is a hot and high airport. This is the main reason why DL has historically avoided scheduling the MD-88 on SLC routes.

Yeah, I'm sure AA has taken a hit on weight/loads in the summer time with MDs but they continue to use them here.

I wonder now that Doug is in charge if we start seeing Airbus instead.

[Edited 2014-01-08 10:43:03]

[Edited 2014-01-08 10:45:00]

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:12 pm
by ORDTLV2414
ORD-PHL
ORD-LGA (not sure if still but for a while)
ORD-DCA (in the process of transitioning to 737)
ORD-DEN
ORD-DFW (Although I saw a 737 do it today on flight radar))

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:21 pm
by 1337Delta764
Also, ABQ-DFW is still all MD-80s (mostly MD-83s). This will probably be one of the last routes that AA will fly the MD-80 on.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:54 pm
by Yflyer
DFW-SMF is exclusively MD-80, and from the couple of days I checked the schedule looks to be exclusively MD-83.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:31 pm
by Sooner787
I believe DFW- EWR is still all S80's as well.

Kinda surprising, that's a long flt for a thirsty bird like that

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:48 pm
by Flaps
DFW-PIT is another all MD80 route. It is a random mix of 82's and 83's.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:14 pm
by ERJ170
RDU-DFW is 2x MD83 and 3x MD80
RDU-ORD has at least 1 flight that's an MD80

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:51 pm
by f18raider
DFW-LBB a mix of MD80 and Eagle service.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:14 pm
by drerx7
MD80s will be deployed 2x on DFW-HOU

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:21 pm
by us330
DFW-DCA sees a mix of MD80s and 738s.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:47 pm
by kenanc
What exactly is the difference between MD82 and MD83?

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:51 pm
by ridgid727
Quoting SLCGuy (Reply 23):
ORD-SLC

That has been CR7's for the last 18 months, until recently when they added a Republic E75 to the other Cr7 flight. DFW has been Md80's for years. (prior to that a mixed of 727's and F100's)

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:56 pm
by 1337Delta764
Quoting KenanC (Reply 36):
What exactly is the difference between MD82 and MD83?

The MD-83 has more range than the MD-82.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:58 pm
by drerx7
Quoting KenanC (Reply 36):
What exactly is the difference between MD82 and MD83?

The non-tech answer...MD83 has longer range.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:14 am
by deltaSEAalsaka
Quoting clickhappy (Reply 21):

There is generally a 1 or 2 per month from MSP

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:16 am
by Timaay419
Only MD80 route left here out of LAX is LAX-STL.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:31 am
by N126DL
Quoting crAAzy (Reply 8):
The only passenger MD service that SEA gets is on DL.

From which hub? Almost all of the hubs use 737/757 to SEA with an odd A320 thrown in. Are they still operating MD90 from SLC?

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:34 am
by BAeRJ100
I flew LAS-ORD on a AA Super 80 back in mid-November, haven't seen that route mentioned yet.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:48 am
by BN747DFWHNL
DFW-DEN isn't MD80-exclusive for AA; 738 shares the route, too.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:59 am
by trnswrld
I'm a controller and see MD80's between ORD and LGA all day long. Sometimes it's a 738. I have a flight booked I. April from ORD to AUS and back on an MD80.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:07 am
by doulasc
Isn't DFW-CMH MD-80s?

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:07 am
by PA727
Also 2X daily DFW-XNA, with the rest handled by ER4s. I imagine we'll be seeing MD80s until the bitter end, which is fine by me!

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:08 am
by lasairlinerenth
Quoting BAeRJ100 (Reply 43):
I flew LAS-ORD on a AA Super 80 back in mid-November, haven't seen that route mentioned yet.

I was on an AA Super 80 from LAS to ORD today, 1/8/14. But my ORD to LAS on Monday 1/13/14 is scheduled to be a 738.

RE: AA's Current MD-80 Routes

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:16 am
by 747fan
DFW-SDF is currently a mix of 2X MD-82/83 (the evening turn at SDF is typically MD-83's, the RON varies day to day) and 3 Eagle ERJ's. However it will be going to 4X daily all MD-80's in April and then 3X MD-80/1X A319 in May. I'm sure it'll be a mix of -82's and -83's. Since I work them all the time, I prefer the -82's.

From what I notice the majority of the MD-80 flying at ORD is on MD-83's, perhaps due to the fact that a few of the longer MD-80 routes in the system are out of O'Hare (ORD-PHX, LAS, PVR, SJD). Along with those cities I just listed here are the other Chicago MD-80 destinations: ORD-DFW, LGA, RDU, PHL, AUS, MSP, STL, MCI, MCO, RSW, TPA. DFW and STL get lots of them but the others are typically only 1-2X MD-80 mixed with 738's or Eagle/Republic large RJ's. Notably ORD-LGA is primarily 738's now.
Out of DFW it is pretty random in terms of -82's and -83's, with the longer routes like DFW-YYC and PDX of course getting the -83. The MD-80 flying at DFW is dominated by 1-2 hour trips as well as many frequencies to regional destinations like AUS, SAT, IAH, OKC, MSY. DFW-AUS/SAT each get probably 10+ of them.