|Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 15):|
They are also making the original Eastern's history their own. "The Wings of Man", logo, Eddie Rickenbacker, Frank Borman, etc. Misrepresentation, IMO.
|Quoting BDL757 (Reply 21):|
This interview with Ed Wegel is certainly interesting: EAL Radio Episode 136 . He seems to be quite serious about restarting the airline and appears to have a lot of investors giving $$$. I didn't listen to the whole thing but I was interested by Mr. Wegel's statement that they have partnered with a major airline for crew training and maintenance. I realize that a small operation like this (if it gets off the ground) would outsource training and maintenance but you wouldn't think that a major airline who will compete with them would want to do business with them. Any guesses as to which airline?
|Quoting BDL757 (Reply 21):|
you wouldn't think that a major airline who will compete with them would want to do business with them.
|Quoting wjcandee (Reply 21):|
First of all, there is a long tradition in the airline business of cooperation with one's competitors. What goes around comes around. Delta will do maintenance for anyone that wants it. It's not like by turning away a competitor's business you are precluding them from going somewhere else, perhaps even for less money. Better to make money from your competitor than not make money from your competitor. Remember, AA did Allegiant's maintenance for years.
|Quoting rampart (Reply 22):|
But yes, the list of revived and then re-dead airline names is long, and one wonders why simple superstition doesn't come into play. Western, Ozark, Pan Am, Braniff, whatever-happened-to-People's Express. I'm not going to count Piedmont, PSA, or Republic.
|Quoting rj777 (Reply 6):|
So we are looking at a regularly scheduled (non-charter airline)!
|Quoting srbmod (Reply 26):|
I remember when Martin Shagrue was trying to resurrect Eastern after it folded and the rights to the name, logos and associated trademarks were held by a creditor who wanted (IIRC) something like $2-3 million for those assets and the "New" Eastern Airlines died on the vine and Shagrue went on to start the second incarnation of Pan Am.
While it has been 23 years since Eastern folded and the average traveler these days is likely to have never flown on the original EAL, so the brand recognition isn't as strong as it once was.
|Quoting wjcandee (Reply 13):|
Nobody in their right mind would try to resurrecct that legacy.
|Quoting freakyrat (Reply 30):|
Why criticize this management team selection. At least they have airline backgrounds.
|Quoting superjeff (Reply 32):|
Actually, Shagrue was going to restart Eastern (as New Eastern), but was convinced that the Carnival takeover of Pan Am II had more of a chance, so he put his money there. The Eastern liquidation actually made a profit and the company's creditors received, IIRC, 100% of their claims plus a further dividend.
|Quoting italianflyer (Reply 31):|
Slightly OT but wasnt there a reincarnation of Western that operated as a public charter for about 45 minutes a couple years ago???
|Quoting rj777 (Reply 4):|
I thought Part 121 is a scheduled commercial carrier...
|Quoting wjcandee (Reply 16):|
DL could safely take this fool's money and not worry about the effect this boneheaded plan is going to have on DL's profitability
|Quoting usxguy (Reply 24):|
Quoting rj777 (Reply 6):So we are looking at a regularly scheduled (non-charter airline)!
That's not what they submitted to the DOT. Its clearly for DOMESTIC and FOREIGN charters. The scheduled authority application would have details about routes, revenue forecasts, etc. The filing has none of that.
|Quoting RWA380 (Reply 43):|
IE ........ AS & DL they are working together through gritted teeth
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