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Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:50 am

Due to its length part 4 has been archived and part 5 is now open for discussion. Part 4 can be found here:

Scandinavian Aviation 2013-2014 - Part 4 (by SA7700 Dec 1 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Enjoy the forums!

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:06 am

According to several sources, Thai Airways will significantly reduce their planned operations into Scandinavia this summer.

CPH sees reduction from 9 to 6 flights pr week all S14
ARN sees reduction from 7 to 6 weekly flights all S14
OSL sees reduction to 5 weekly (as usual), but will be operated daily mid June – mid August.
Over all a increase with -300 operating instead of -200.

Similar reductions also for Frankfurt and Zurich.

http://www.traveldailymedia.com/2033...osts-asian-routes-but-cuts-europe/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:10 am

Qouting g2scandinavia in the pt4 thread:

According to several sources, Thai Airways will significantly reduce their planned operations into Scandinavia this summer.

CPH sees reduction from 9 to 6 flights pr week all S14
ARN sees reduction from 7 to 6 weekly flights all S14
OSL sees reduction to 5 weekly (as usual), but will be operated daily mid June – mid August.
Over all a increase with -300 operating instead of -200.

Similar reductions also for Frankfurt and Zurich.

http://www.traveldailymedia.com/2033...-asian-routes-but-cuts-europe/


They are cutting to Europe in general and boosting Asia.

CPH only had 9 weekly in S13 from 05JUL13 – 18AUG13, so not a major downgauge. Thai usually adjustes their schedules quite a bit in February, so let's see. But not a bad move as Thai is having trouble filling their planes in the low season. Simply too much competition from the ME3's.

According to the article, Thai will suspend the direct Phuket flight as well. I also think they could use their aircraft in a more profitable way than on sun loving Scandinavians.



[Edited 2014-02-11 01:50:49]
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:36 am

In a recent posted interview, Avinor says that they want 20 new IC-flights from OSL in order to stop norwegians using Heathrow, CPH, FRA and/or AMS instead of OSL.

Will OSL at some point make it easyer for people to transfer when coming in from international flights?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:22 pm

Norwegian Air Shuttle receaved two brand New Boeing 737-800 today, with registration LN-NGT and LN-NGU. The two aircrafts arrived in Oslo this morning. LN NGU is Boeing's aircraft number 1000 with Boeing Sky Interior.



Photo curtesy of Norwegian Air Shuttle Facebook page
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:05 pm

Interesting ... Apparently, Norwegian is the largest operator of Sky Interior in Europe:

" Norwegian now boasts the largest Sky Interior fleet in Europe. "

Norwegian takes delivery of Boeing’s 1,000th 737-800 aircraft with Sky Interior:

http://media.norwegian.com/en/#/pres...-aircraft-with-sky-interior-960040
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:14 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 5):

LN-DYF was their first with sky interior. Most of the LN-NO* however are without. On wikipedia some planes are listed with Sky interior and some are listed with sky interior upgraded. Whats the differene?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:38 pm

Quoting invaders (Reply 6):
On wikipedia some planes are listed with Sky interior and some are listed with sky interior upgraded. Whats the differene?

I expect there to be no difference, but I'm no expert ...
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:21 am

Seems like ATR #5 and #6 from JetTime to operate for SAS is delayed and JetTime has aquired two used ex-AA ATR-72-500 as back-up aircraft to be ready for the S14 season
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:37 am

Quoting invaders (Reply 3):
Will OSL at some point make it easyer for people to transfer when coming in from international flights?

I remember reading the new government said they would take care of this. One shouldn't believe everything politicians promise, but they've already shown a lot of power to act.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:16 am

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 9):

I remember reading the new government said they would take care of this. One shouldn't believe everything politicians promise, but they've already shown a lot of power to act.

I wonder if the customs and police agree to what the government said. I dont know if I remember correct, but I think it was a system for transferring passengers when connecting from international to domestic once the airport opened. Connecting from domestic to international however is not a problem at all.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:41 am

SAS took delivery of LN-RGI yesterday, the 9th an last from the 9 new built from GECAS. In addition a few more used and leased -700 will join the fleet later this year

 Boeing 737  -86N  35646  4788  LN-RGI  SAS  delivery 12feb14 BFI-OSL  
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:58 am

"
Norwegian reports a full year result of 437 MNOK in 2013.

Norwegian (NAS) today reported its fourth quarter and full year results for 2013. The company reports a pre-tax profit (EBT) of 437 MNOK. The company’s total fourth quarter result was -283 MNOK. The year has been characterized by strong passenger growth and international expansion, and additional costs related to the start-up of the long-haul operation.

2013 is the seventh consecutive year Norwegian has made a profit. Earnings before taxes (EBT) were 437 MNOK in 2013, compared to 623 MNOK in 2012. The turnover was 15.6 billion NOK, an increase of 21 percent. The production growth (ASK) increased by 32 percent in 2013. At the same time, the load factor remains stable and high. Norwegian carried 20.7 million passengers in 2013, three million more than the previous year. At the same time, the market share is growing in all core markets.

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Source: http://media.norwegian.com/en/#/pres...-result-of-437-mnok-in-2013-960768
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:53 am

According to a member on flyprat.no, EI-LNDs first flight have again been cancelled. Isnt the production at DU due to be increased by the end of February? Hi-Fly again?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:35 pm

SAS will introduce full-flat Business seats in 2015:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgrQ7O6CAAA1RXf.jpg:large

http://www.sasgroup.net/SASGROUP_IR/...onference_prefshares_10feb2014.pdf
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:38 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
SAS will introduce full-flat Business seats in 2015:

Looks very promising.   I like their current Business Class seats as well though.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:38 pm

According to airlineroutes Air Serbia (JU) will icrease on both ARN and CPH during S14:

Belgrade – Copenhagen Service increases from 5 weekly to daily. Planned A319 service replacing Boeing 737-300 remains unchanged
JU400 BEG0640 – 0855CPH 319 246
JU404 BEG1755 – 2010CPH 319 x246

JU401 CPH0940 – 1140BEG 319 246
JU405 CPH2055 – 2255BEG 319 x246

Belgrade – Stockholm Service increase from 5 weekly to daily, Airbus A319 replaces 737-300
JU410 BEG0635 – 0915ARN 319 x124
JU414 BEG1700 – 1940ARN 319 124

JU411 ARN1000 – 1235BEG 319 x124
JU415 ARN2025 – 2300BEG 319 124
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:49 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 2):
According to several sources, Thai Airways will significantly reduce their planned operations into Scandinavia this summer.

CPH sees reduction from 9 to 6 flights pr week all S14
ARN sees reduction from 7 to 6 weekly flights all S14
OSL sees reduction to 5 weekly (as usual), but will be operated daily mid June – mid August.
Over all a increase with -300 operating instead of -200.

So this means that during the summer, OSL will have more frequency than ARN and CPH? Gosh, how things have changed!
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:30 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 17):
So this means that during the summer, OSL will have more frequency than ARN and CPH? Gosh, how things have changed!

Well...that might change when EK enters the Oslo market.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:35 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
http://www.sasgroup.net/SASGROUP_IR/...onference_prefshares_10feb2014.pdf

The report also outlines the planned delivery schedule for their current firm order from Airbus

A330:
2015: 2
2016: 2

A320NEO
2016: 4
2017: 11
2018: 7
2019: 8

A350-900
2018: 1
2019: 1
2020: 2
2021: 4
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 17):

I wonder if SK will re-open the CPH-BKK route again, not bookable in december for example.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:52 am

LOT plans to increase WAW-ARN from 12x to 17x weekly from W14/15

http://airlineroute.net/2014/02/18/lo-europe-w14update1/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:27 am

They must be getting some good subsidies here, as Estonian is starting 8x weekly Växjö-Amsterdam with E-170 from May

http://estonian-air.com/en/about-us/news/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:57 am

New route for Norwegian - ARN-VNO. 3x weekly, starting May 8. Late evening flights on Tue and Thu, midday flight on Sunday.

Competition for SAS ARN-VNO which now is 12x weekly on Braathens SAAB2000.

Second route for Norwegian in VNO, they are flying 3x weekly OSL-VNO. No direct competition on that, but Ryanair is serving RYG from VNO and Wizz is flying to TRF.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:29 pm

Quoting smbukas (Reply 23):
New route for Norwegian - ARN-VNO. 3x weekly, starting May 8. Late evening flights on Tue and Thu, midday flight on Sunday.

Competition for SAS ARN-VNO which now is 12x weekly on Braathens SAAB2000.

Second route for Norwegian in VNO, they are flying 3x weekly OSL-VNO. No direct competition on that, but Ryanair is serving RYG from VNO and Wizz is flying to TRF.


Labas!

This is very good News. I travel every second week to Lithuania for business.
I have always been surprised by the fact that OSL is the only DY service.
However, FR from RYG is usually the best options with both Kaunas and Vilnius served more frequent from RYG than from OSL.
Great to se ARN With DY.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:39 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 22):

Do they have any good agreements with KL for transfering pax? Can't think of any other reason for them to start AMS. Or is Estonionan flying this on behalf of KL?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:49 pm

Sun-Air is starting 5x weekly ZRH-BLL using Do-328Jet from April 28. Seems like the route is partly funded by Grundfos
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:25 pm

Status of % sold seats out of total capacity in March outbound flights with Norwegian pr. 19Mar14.
(Launch flights not included)

CPH - LAX (2 weekly) 53% Economy 10% Premium
ARNLAX (2 weekly) 66% Economy 14% Premium
CPHFLL (3 weekly) 51% Economy 15% Premium
ARNFLL (2 weekly) 68% Economy 31% Premium
OSLFLL (2 weekly) 60% Economy 17% Premium
CPH- JFK (2 weekly) 48% Economy 2% Premium
ARN - JFK (3 weekly) 54% Economy 8% Premium
OSLJFK (4 weekly) 58% Economy 14% Premium

ARN seems to be the real winner to LAX. With 66% of all seats already booked.
Interesting to see that ARN have the same amount of tickets sold to FLL as CPH, but with only two departures pr week.
Also over 1/3 more sold Premium tickets than CPH so far.
The fourth weekly departure from OSL to JFK introduced in December seems to pay off.
However CPH seems to struggle a bit on the new JFK service. Will increase to 4 weekly in the end of April.

Norwegian refers to very different booking patters of the 3 countries with swedes booking the earliest, Norwegian’s close to departure and Danes in the middle, so it will be exciting to see the end of month reports on these destinations.

However, It’s obvious that Sweden seems to be the stronghold for DU at the moment.

[Edited 2014-02-19 06:37:26]
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:06 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 27):
However CPH seems to struggle a bit on the new JFK service.

I know you just love presenting numbers that puts CPH in a bad light.

As JFK flights from CPH have not been launched yet, I think you will see numbers change once the route has been established in people's mind.

Another question comes to my mind. As the flights doesn't operate on all dates, I'd say that some weekdays are less attractive than others ie. I would prefer to fly to FLL on a Friday - not a Monday.

LAX route from ARN might be a success as there is no direct competition to the Californian Westcoast. CPH has the SFO flights.

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 27):
3 countries with swedes booking the earliest,

Do promo campaigns/vacation/holidays vary between the 3 countries.

People working at CPH are telling me that DU's 787 routes are impressingly full from CPH, and I guess that's what matters at the end  
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:14 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 27):
Status of % sold seats out of total capacity in March outbound flights with Norwegian pr. 19Mar14.
(Launch flights not included)

Where did you get these numbers from? Is there any way we can access them too?

Would be interesting to know what their break even load factor is for these flights.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:12 pm

Quoting invaders (Reply 25):
Do they have any good agreements with KL for transfering pax? Can't think of any other reason for them to start AMS. Or is Estonionan flying this on behalf of KL?

Codeshare with KL, if I'm not mistaken (like OVs flights in-between TLL and AMS).
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:53 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
I know you just love presenting numbers that puts CPH in a bad light.

Yes, must be hard to be presented benchmarking than you cannot argue against. Better to attack the poster then 
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
As JFK flights from CPH have not been launched yet, I think you will see numbers change once the route has been established in people's mind.

Seeing how LAX has been well received from CPH and not yet launched, I have some difficulties following your logic as JFK starts at the same time and has been in sale for the same period of time.
With flights on Friday and Mondays, and well adjusted for weekend travel in the big apple, I’m a bit surprised to se such a contrast in pre bookings compared to other destinations. On the other hand
Both UA and Delta gave up winter operations to New York from CPH, so It’s not chocking although bookings will certainly go up prior to every departure.

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
Another question comes to my mind. As the flights doesn't operate on all dates, I'd say that some weekdays are less attractive than others ie. I would prefer to fly to FLL on a Friday - not a Monday.

Flights from CPH to FLL leaves on Fridays..... (also Monday and Wednesday)

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
LAX route from ARN might be a success as there is no direct competition to the Californian Westcoast. CPH has the SFO flights.

Again I have some difficulties following your point. Do you mean that if it was not for SFO, CPH would have had more pax than ARN on the LAX route? If you look into FLL bookings ARN v/CPH, it's not inline with your theory. Also, I don't know about CPH, but for ARN and OSL, DU's routes have generated more passengers than the capacity added. It might be more under stimulated markets to begin with.

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
Do promo campaigns/vacation/holidays vary between the 3 countries.

Correct, I'm referring to articles with airlines operating in the Nordics. Prices are in general the same from ARN/CPH/OSL. OSL usually a bit more expensive tickets.

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
People working at CPH are telling me that DU's 787 routes are impressingly full from CPH, and I guess that's what matters at the end

Yes, 81% load for DEC is very impressive and sustainable. However both ARN and OSL reported over 90% in the same period  
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:28 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
People working at CPH are telling me that DU's 787 routes are impressingly full from CPH, and I guess that's what matters at the end

Since Trafikstyrelsen hasn't published the January numbers for CPH yet, we have to settle for the December numbers this time:

DY7041/42 CPH-FLL
Flights in December: 9
Passengers in December: 4,263
Passenger factor: 90.7% (237 of 291* seats filled in average)
Transfer passengers: 525 (only outbound transfer passengers are shown in the database)

The numbers that Trafikstyrelsen has publishing don't tell anything about the Premium vs Economy ratio. I have to agree with EBGflyer, the cabin loads are very impressive if you compare it with let's say the SAS's flights to NRT.

SK983/984 CPH-NRT
Flights in December: 23
Passengers in December: 7,788
Passenger factor: 69.1% (169 of 245 seats filled in average)
Transfer passengers: 5,458
Transfer share: 70.1%

* all flights were flown with one of the three Norwegian Dreamliners.

Source: http://stat.trafikstyrelsen.dk/QvAJA...STAT.qvw&host=Local&anonymous=true
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:47 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 27):
Status of % sold seats out of total capacity in March outbound flights with Norwegian pr. 19Mar14.
(Launch flights not included)

I think you owe people to tell them that "your" Norwegian sales info comes from seat-map data from Norwegians webpage and that you have not leaked confidential sales info from Norwegian. You also owe to tell them that avialability based on seatmaps not necessarily equals actual sales figures.

However that being said seat-maps can of course be a good indicator of how sales go. But I have to say that I do not find it very interesting to compare seat-map data for a period of one month - I would like you to present data for the entire S14 season - yes it is a hell of a lot seat-maps to go through...

For March I also have to say that it does not make sense to compare CPH-JFK with OSL/ARN-JFK. The latter is more established routes while March will be the first operating month for CPH-JFK. It's more fair to compare the FLL and LAX routes, but also here I believe it should be taken into consideration that Norwegian Longhaul in general is more etablished in the markets from OSL and ARN compared to CPH. Let's wait and see how the actual passenger numbers for CPH turns out - I am not worried...

Speaking about actual passenger figures, yes the load on CPH-FLL route was 81% in december. Based on data from Swedavia the load on ARN-FLL was 90% in december. For OSL no specific data is available for december, but in the monthly traffic report for January OSL mentions that just over 4.000 passengers used the FLL route - this indicates af load of 85-90%.

For December it should be noted that inbound FLL flights for obvious reasons had very week loads in the beginning of the month. Load on outbound flights from CPH to FLL was in december 93%.

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 28):
I know you just love presenting numbers that puts CPH in a bad light.

I am pretty sure that if this so called "benchmark" had turned out to be in favor of CPH, we would never have seen the figures presented here...  
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:17 am

Quoting SAS767 (Reply 33):
I think you owe people to tell them that "your" Norwegian sales info comes from seat-map data from Norwegians webpage and that you have not leaked confidential sales info from Norwegian. You also owe to tell them that availability based on seat maps not necessarily equals actual sales figures.

Then I think you owe people a apology.
The numbers comes from booking system with open available information about available seats pr flight in all classes. Flights operated by Hifly in March are also visible in the system, but availability is adjusted for dremliner configuration.
If you search a bit online, you will find similar information about Norwegian elsewhere and from sources that might colour your bashing agenda a bit differently.

Quoting SAS767 (Reply 33):
I am pretty sure that if this so called "benchmark" had turned out to be in favour of CPH, we would never have seen the figures presented here...

People says attack is the best defence! I think both LAX and FLL shows exceptional bookings from CPH, but I'm obviously hitting a nerve when ARN shows better pre bookings. Hideous attacks does not have the power to change facts 
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:41 pm

"The Board of Directors of SAS has resolved to increase the offer to comprise 7 million preference shares, corresponding to SEK 3.5 billion, as a result of very strong demand
· The subscription period in the institutional offer is shortened to end on 19 February 2014 at 12.00 CET. "

According to Danish newspapers SAS has sold all preference shares.

A nice bit af cash, we have to hope SAS spend the money wisely  

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:27 pm

Quoting Maersk737 (Reply 35):
A nice bit af cash, we have to hope SAS spend the money wisely

SAS has also promised to pay 10% of the capital / year to those who invested, so lets hope that SAS earns some money now.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:41 pm

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 34):
The numbers comes from booking system with open available information about available seats pr flight in all classes. Flights operated by Hifly in March are also visible in the system, but availability is adjusted for dremliner configuration.
If you search a bit online, you will find similar information about Norwegian elsewhere and from sources that might colour your bashing agenda a bit differently.

You say a lot but in the end you do provide any real useful information. Anyway the good thing is that if you have access to this kind of data you will be able to show us a benchmark for all of the months in the S14 season - I really look forward to see these figures...


Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 34):
People says attack is the best defence! I think both LAX and FLL shows exceptional bookings from CPH, but I'm obviously hitting a nerve when ARN shows better pre bookings. Hideous attacks does not have the power to change facts

LOL - I did not attack anyone, but was just presenting a fact... 
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:02 am

Ever since early 2000 I've been a very active reader on Airliners.
It gives me great pleasure to follow the Scandinavian threads.
One member in particular, seems to have more knowledge about route development, politics and performance than anyone else. This member receives well deserved and frequent acknowledge from other members on this forum.
G2scandinavia, I enjoy your posts and will thank you for sharing information and knowledge on this forum.

Happy posting!
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:57 pm

As I posted some weeks ago, it seems like SK are considering to drop CPH-BKK when W15 scheudle starts in october. Source: check-in.dk

I guess this can be seen in relation with new cabins and planes being taken out of service because of that.


Norwegian have reduced TRF-LGW from 6 to 4 weekly and is now operating out of their LGW base instead of TRF. Anyone have any information on how DY is doing at TRF? The last couple of times flying from BGO to TRF I ended up paying NOK 398,- for a roundtrip, I doubt that its a moneymaking machine for DY.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:44 pm

Traffic trends from SAS and the Scandinavia market presented in Aftenbladet today:

"Oljeboomen bidrar sterkt til å gjøre nordmenn til Europas mestflyvende folk. Hver tredje flypassasjer hos SAS er norsk, og blant de aller mest lønnsomme SAS-passasjerene er halvparten norske".

http://www.aftenbladet.no/energi/Hal...r-norske-3361135.html#.UwdyWvldXbM

Freely translated from Norwegian; the Norwegian oil and wealth contributes to make Norwegians the most flying nation in Europe. Every third SAS pax is Norwegian and among the most profitable pax (Pandion) half are Norwegians. The article also refers to the large expat community in Houston working for Norwegian oil- and offshore industry.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:39 pm

Quoting invaders (Reply 39):
Anyone have any information on how DY is doing at TRF?

From what I'm hearing from people at TRF it seems to be that they have some challenges with the loads. I don't think they will abondon TRF, but route reductions such as seen on TRF-LGW doesn't surprise me.

TRF-EVE was cut a while back
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:38 pm

Tarom is starting flights on 2 june between OTP and ARN. Three times a week on Mondays Wednesdays and Sundays. I don't have the link but check Swedavias homepage.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:19 am

We all know that check-in.dk have an agenda against Norwegian, but this isnt a very good read for Norwegian:

http://www.check-in.dk/Norwegian-i-europaeisk-bund#.Uwrjgl6IknI

According to flightstats, Norwegian was the most unreliable airline in Europe in January with close to 8% of the flights more then 45 minutes delayed. As far as I could tell, the article did not state where SK ended on the list as a comparison.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:38 am

SAS wasn't much better with their 25th place among the European airlines.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:33 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):

It will be interesting to try out their new long haul product. I recently tried their new seats on short-haul, and they were a good improvement in passenger experience. Cabin seemed more modern, and I felt like I had more space due to thinner seats. The only thing I wish SAS would have done differently was not choosing Sky-interior for their new 737NG planes.
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:33 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 8):
JetTime has aquired two used ex-AA ATR-72-500 as back-up aircraft to be ready for the S14 season

First one now in JT colours

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1283803
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:37 am

Looks like EI-LND wont be delivered in time for the opening of CPH-LAX on friday and CPH-LAX on saturday.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:59 am

Quoting invaders (Reply 47):
Looks like EI-LND wont be delivered in time for the opening of CPH-LAX on friday and CPH-LAX on saturday.

Has EI.LNC been delivered ? Do you know who it is on the tail ?
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2014 - Part 5

Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:11 am

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 48):
Has EI.LNC been delivered ? Do you know who it is on the tail ?

Delivered last year

Still a blank tail

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