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OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:27 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

AA DFW-CRP MAY 7>8 JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9 AUG 8>9 SEP 8>9 OCT 8>9 NOV 8>9
AA JFK-DFW MAY 1.0>1.8 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2 OCT 1.0>2 NOV 1.0>2
*AA LAX-SBA APR 4>0 MAY 4>0 JUN 4>0 JUL 4>0 AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0
*AA ORD-ART MAY 1.8>0.5 JUN 1.8>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0 SEP 1.7>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0
AA ORD-DEN MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6 SEP 5>6 OCT 5>6
AA ORD-ICT MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3
AA ORD-MIA MAY 9>10 JUN 10>11 JUL 10>11
AA ORD-MKE MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5 NOV 4>5
AA ORD-TVC MAY 1.9>3 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4
AA ORD-YUL JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4 SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4

*AM ATL-MEX APR 0>0.2 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0
AM ORD-MEX APR 4>3
Doesn't this reverse last week?
*AM ORD-MLM JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2
*AM SFO-BJX MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.2 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.2 NOV 0>0.1
*AM SFO-MLM APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.6 SEP 0>0.6 OCT 0>0.6 NOV 0>0.6

AR MIA-EZE APR 2>1.9

AS ANC-AKN AUG 0.7>0.3
AS LAX-PVR JUN 1.1>1.3
Charter for Apple
*AS ORD-PVR JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.1
AS PDX-ANC JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AS SAN-SJD AUG 1.9>1.7
AS SEA-ANC JUN 19>18 JUL 19>18 NOV 11>12
AS SEA-BOI JUN 10>9 JUL 10>9 AUG 10>9 SEP 9>8 OCT 9>8 NOV 11>8
AS SEA-FCA JUN 3>2
AS SEA-LAS JUN 12>9 JUL 12>9 AUG 12>9 SEP 12>8 OCT 12>8 NOV 12>8
AS SEA-LAX JUN 14>13 JUL 14>13 AUG 14>13 SEP 14>12 OCT 13>11 NOV 13>10
AS SEA-SAN JUN 9>8 JUL 9>7 AUG 9>8 OCT 8>7
AS SEA-SFO JUN 11>9 JUL 11>9 AUG 11>9 SEP 11>8 OCT 11>8 NOV 11>9

AV JFK-MDE JUN 0.6>0.8 JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.6>1.0 SEP 0.6>0.8
AV JFK-SAL MAY 2>1.5 JUN 2>1.6 JUL 2>1.7 AUG 2>1.7 SEP 2>1.7 OCT 2>1.7

B6 JFK-GCM JUN 0.8>1.0 JUL 0.4>1.0 AUG 0.4>1.0
B6 MCO-NAS SEP 0.9>1.0

BA TPA-LGW NOV 1.0>1.3

CI HNL-NRT NOV 0.8>1.0

*DL BDL-CLE JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
DL DTW-BGM NOV 3>1.7
DL DTW-CLE MAY 3>4
Response to AS
*DL DTW-SEA SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5 NOV 4>5
DL HIB-MSP JUN 1.7>1.0 JUL 1.7>1.0 AUG 1.7>1.0 SEP 1.7>1.0 OCT 1.7>1.0 NOV 1.7>1.0
DL LGA-ILM NOV 1.8>1.0
DL LGA-MHT JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4 NOV 3>4
DL LGA-PBI OCT 4>5
*DL MEM-TPA MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0 SEP 0.9>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0

*EK ORD-DXB AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0

FJ LAX-NAN NOV 1.0>0.9

Reverses last week
*HA HNL-LNY APR 0>2 MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
*HA HNL-MKK APR 0>3 MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3

JJ MIA-FOR JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1 NOV 0>0.2

K5 GST-HNH MAY 0>1.9 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.8 AUG 0>1.0
K5 GST-JNU MAY 0>7 JUN 0>7 JUL 0>7 AUG 0>4
K5 HNH-JNU MAY 0>9 JUN 0>9 JUL 0>9 AUG 0>5
K5 HNS-HNS MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
K5 HNS-JNU APR 4>5 MAY 0>7 JUN 0>7 JUL 0>7 AUG 0>4
K5 HNS-SGY APR 4>3 MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>1.0
K5 JNU-SGY MAY 0>7 JUN 0>7 JUL 0>7 AUG 0>4
K5 OTH-PDX APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4 NOV 3>4
K5 PDT-PDX APR 4>3 JUN 4>1.7 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.7 SEP 4>1.7 OCT 4>1.7 NOV 3>1.7

Freq reduction in DL markets
KE ATL-ICN APR 1.4>1.0 MAY 1.5>1.0 JUN 1.4>1.0 JUL 1.5>1.0 AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 1.4>1.0 OCT 1.4>1.0 NOV 1.4>1.0
KE DFW-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.8
KE SEA-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.8

OZ HNL-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.7 NOV 1.0>0.7

PR LAX-MNL OCT 1.3>1.6 NOV 0>1.6
PR SFO-MNL OCT 0.8>1.0 NOV 0>1.0

SY BOS-MSP SEP 0.1>1.5 OCT 0>1.4
SY JFK-MSP SEP 0.1>1.8 OCT 0>1.8
SY LAX-MSP SEP 0.1>1.7 OCT 0>1.7
SY MDW-MSP SEP 0.1>1.5 OCT 0>1.5
SY MSP-PHX OCT 0>0.8
SY MSP-RSW OCT 0>0.9
SY MSP-SEA SEP 0.1>1.4 OCT 0>1.2
SY MSP-SFO SEP 0.2>3 OCT 0>1.9

TP MIA-LIS JUL 0.7>0.8 AUG 0.7>0.9 SEP 0.7>0.8

Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0
UA CLE-BUF MAY 3>1.7 JUN 0.3>0.2
UA CLE-CUN JUN 0.5>0.3
UA CLE-IND JUN 0.4>0.2
UA CLE-MDT MAY 1.5>1.0 JUN 0.2>0.1
UA CLE-PIT MAY 1.7>1.0 JUN 0.2>0.1
UA DEN-MEX APR 0.3>0.1
UA EWR-MCO AUG 9>8 SEP 9>8
UA EWR-NAS OCT 0.8>0.4
UA EWR-RSW SEP 1.9>1.2
UA EWR-TLV SEP 1.9>2
UA IAH-SAV JUN 2>1.1 JUL 1.9>1.1
UA LAX-DGO JUN 0.3>0.2
UA LAX-HNL JUL 6>7
UA ORD-BUF JUN 7>8
UA ORD-NAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.5>0.1 OCT 0.6>0.2
UA SFO-ANC JUN 1.7>0.9 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 1.6>1.0
UA SFO-DEN APR 9>10
**US CLT-GIG SEP 1.0>0.4 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0
US PHL-ROA MAY 4>3

UX JFK-MAD MAY 0.5>0.4 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7

VW AUS-MEX SEP 0.7>0.9 OCT 0.7>0.9
VW MFE-MEX MAY 0.7>0.5 JUN 0.7>0.6 OCT 0.6>0.4 NOV 0.7>0.4

WG FLL-YYZ APR 0.4>0.3
WG PIE-YYZ APR 0.3>0.1

WN DEN-PHX JUL 8>7

ZK DEN-DIK APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0
ZK DEN-ISN APR 0.7>1.5 MAY 0.7>1.4 JUN 0.7>1.4 JUL 0.7>1.5 AUG 0.7>1.4 SEP 0.7>1.5 OCT 0.7>1.4 NOV 0.7>1.4
ZK DIK-ISN APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:35 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA ORD-ART MAY 1.8>0.5 JUN 1.8>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0 SEP 1.7>0 OCT 1.7>0 NOV 1.7>0

As was mentioned in the thread last week, this is an EAS route being moved to PHL from ORD, which I think will work better anyways.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
KE ATL-ICN APR 1.4>1.0 MAY 1.5>1.0 JUN 1.4>1.0 JUL 1.5>1.0 AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 1.4>1.0 OCT 1.4>1.0 NOV 1.4>1.0
KE DFW-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.8
KE SEA-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.8

Is DL flying ATL-ICN yet? I know they are flying to ICN from DTW and I think SEA, but I didn't think DL was operating ATL-ICN on their own metal, though that could change in the near future.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AS PDX-ANC JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AS SAN-SJD AUG 1.9>1.7
AS SEA-ANC JUN 19>18 JUL 19>18 NOV 11>12
AS SEA-BOI JUN 10>9 JUL 10>9 AUG 10>9 SEP 9>8 OCT 9>8 NOV 11>8
AS SEA-FCA JUN 3>2
AS SEA-LAS JUN 12>9 JUL 12>9 AUG 12>9 SEP 12>8 OCT 12>8 NOV 12>8
AS SEA-LAX JUN 14>13 JUL 14>13 AUG 14>13 SEP 14>12 OCT 13>11 NOV 13>10
AS SEA-SAN JUN 9>8 JUL 9>7 AUG 9>8 OCT 8>7
AS SEA-SFO JUN 11>9 JUL 11>9 AUG 11>9 SEP 11>8 OCT 11>8 NOV 11>9

This seems like a lot of frequency reductions in key AS markets. Now AS will still have quite a big presence in these markets, but with these reductions, you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:48 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

But, DL reduced LGA-ILM possibly in response to AA entering this route.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL LGA-ILM NOV 1.8>1.0
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:30 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

Might as well get out of the middle of that fight before things start to get bloody. UA has enough to worry about without getting in the middle of the AS/DL fight in SEA.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL HIB-MSP JUN 1.7>1.0 JUL 1.7>1.0 AUG 1.7>1.0 SEP 1.7>1.0 OCT 1.7>1.0 NOV 1.7>1.0

I flew this route last fall, and I'm not surprised. The plane (CR2) was only half full both ways. Although, how do they expect to keep it going with only one flight per day to HIB, or are they going to link it in with another town?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:39 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AS SEA-ANC JUN 19>18 JUL 19>18 NOV 11>12
AS SEA-BOI JUN 10>9 JUL 10>9 AUG 10>9 SEP 9>8 OCT 9>8 NOV 11>8
AS SEA-FCA JUN 3>2
AS SEA-LAS JUN 12>9 JUL 12>9 AUG 12>9 SEP 12>8 OCT 12>8 NOV 12>8
AS SEA-LAX JUN 14>13 JUL 14>13 AUG 14>13 SEP 14>12 OCT 13>11 NOV 13>10
AS SEA-SAN JUN 9>8 JUL 9>7 AUG 9>8 OCT 8>7
AS SEA-SFO JUN 11>9 JUL 11>9 AUG 11>9 SEP 11>8 OCT 11>8 NOV 11>9

I noticed last night that AS's summer sked appears to have been loaded and I was very unpleasantly surprised to see that they reduced SAN-SEA
by 2 daily departures over last summer's offerings (from 9x daily to 7.) That wasn't quite the reaction I was expecting from them in light of the new
service in the market announced by both DL and WN.

Now that I see reductions in many of the other SEA markets, I'm not as upset and figure that a lot of these frequency reductions are due to the
increase in use of their new 739s in those markets. In fact, perhaps the overall capacity offered could be about the same as it was last year.

This might explain where some of the a/c time came from for the new routes announced from SEA this summer, plus a bit of the new SLC service.

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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:34 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0
...
UA SFO-ANC JUN 1.7>0.9 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 1.6>1.0

Why are they pulling down SFO-ANC? That surprises me. My first thought when I saw the SEA reduction was that maybe they increase SFO to make up for it.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:45 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

Are they really winning? The battle is between AS and DL. UA (previously CO) was always a bit player in that market, existing primarily to provide year-round access to ANC because IAH/EWR couldn't support it. Now that DL is gearing up to take on AS and UA has access via DEN all year, it's just not strategically important.

Was UA "winning" when DL dropped SFO-NRT?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:57 pm

Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
This seems like a lot of frequency reductions in key AS markets.

I hadn't focused on that, but good catch.

Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.

Capacity always has an effect. It appears it is a pretty substantial one. No surprise. It looks like AS has decided to give up on the standard airline strategy of suffocating competitors with capacity and fall back on hope customers will stick with them.

Quoting EricR (Reply 2):
Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

But, DL reduced LGA-ILM possibly in response to AA entering this route.

Are we comparing ILM-LGA to SEA-ANC?

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 5):
Why are they pulling down SFO-ANC?

Didn't VX exit the route? And didn't UA only add that freq when VX entered? My memory could be wrong...

Quoting codc10 (Reply 6):
Are they really winning? The battle is between AS and DL.

They won against UA. That's a big accomplishment in that for Alaska residents the choice is pretty much Alaska Airlines or everybody else. Everybody else just shrank.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:16 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

AA JFK-DFW MAY 1.0>1.8 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2 OCT 1.0>2 NOV 1.0>2

That's an interesting one

Shocked at the fares that they get on it in July.

I am flying to MXP on AA in April and it is almost cheaper than JFK-DFW

[Edited 2014-03-03 09:20:35]
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:34 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

I'll believe it when I see it; perhaps just an error. CO has served ANC-SEA as the only year-round nonstop route from ANC for years and years and years... Until the merger, it was the only year round route.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:39 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
They won against UA. That's a big accomplishment in that for Alaska residents the choice is pretty much Alaska Airlines or everybody else. Everybody else just shrank.

Maybe, but it's not really any different from WN dropping SEA/PDX-SLC (which was announced this morning but likely didn't make it in to OAG in time for you to pick it up this week). The strategy for both seems to be to let AS and DL squabble and stay out of the way, at least in non-core markets (I don't think we'll see WN dropping SEA-OAK/LAX or UA dropping SEA-SFO/LAX).
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:41 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
I'll believe it when I see it; perhaps just an error. CO has served ANC-SEA as the only year-round nonstop route from ANC for years and years and years... Until the merger, it was the only year round route.

Well, now the merged UA has DEN-ANC and ORD-ANC.

Might as well leave the dogfight in SEA to DL and AS. Sounds reasonable to me.

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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:43 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

I'll believe it when I see it; perhaps just an error. CO has served ANC-SEA as the only year-round nonstop route from ANC for years and years and years... Until the merger, it was the only year round route.


It's true. Completely removed from United.com and all schedules. No longer for sale. There will be a lot of backtracking for those who want to continue to fly United to Alaska from the Pacific Northwest. Perhaps they will move the service down to PDX and restart PDX-ANC where they used to fly just until a couple years ago.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:43 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Are we comparing ILM-LGA to SEA-ANC?

Looks like they were, lol.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:45 pm

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 12):

Or prolly make IAH-ANC year round service.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:06 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 5):
Why are they pulling down SFO-ANC?

Didn't VX exit the route? And didn't UA only add that freq when VX entered? My memory could be wrong...

pmUA has flown that route seasonally before...I can't remember either if they had converted it to year round at some point or only added it back after VX entered the market.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:16 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

Perhaps more CLE like housekeeping. The ANC skies have become busy across the last few years from the lower 49 seasonally.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:21 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.

Effect=Results

Affect=Influence

You wonder if DL is having some affect on them -or-

You wonder if DL is having some influence on them
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:28 pm

Quoting diverdave (Reply 11):
Might as well leave the dogfight in SEA to DL and AS. Sounds reasonable to me

Well except for the fact that a couple of months ago, WN announced SAN-PDX/SEA, soon after DL announced SAN-SEA service for this summer. (I note with interest that AS has responded to all of that with a pullback in their SAN-SEA service on their summer schedule.)

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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:09 pm

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 3):
Might as well get out of the middle of that fight before things start to get bloody. UA has enough to worry about without getting in the middle of the AS/DL fight in SEA.

Wasn't this flight an extension of IAH-SEA….with great yield upfront IAH-ANC, and made use of an aircraft that would have other wise been idle.

I remember once flying IAH-SEA sitting in Y+ and all around me were oil workers headed to ANC. they guy next to me was flying OKC-IAH-SEA-ANC and was complaining that he wanted a J and all they could give him was Y+ ..and he was paying.
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Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 14):
Or prolly make IAH-ANC year round service.

Thats a loooong flight….wound have to be a 752.

Maybe now they just route the TX oil workers via DEN.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:26 pm

Quoting seatback (Reply 17):
Effect=Results

Affect=Influence

You wonder if DL is having some affect on them -or-

You wonder if DL is having some influence on them

Nope. Affect = verb, effect = noun, except for a couple of use cases. Effect may be used as a verb in the sense of "bringing about," while affect may be used as a noun to describe a facial expression. So consequently:

Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
you wonder if DL is having some effect on them

is correct usage. "DL's actions might affect AS" would be correct usage of "affect."
 
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:30 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

Anyone know for sure how long United served this route? Unless they have discontinued it previously in the past, I believe it goes back about 30 years.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:30 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Wasn't this flight an extension of IAH-SEA….with great yield upfront IAH-ANC, and made use of an aircraft that would have other wise been idle.

I think SEA-ANC was a way for CO to be able to offer ANC service year-round even while the IAH & EWR hubs couldn't sustain non-stop service individually. With non-stops available from DEN & ORD, there's not as great a need to connect those passengers at SEA.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 14):
Or prolly make IAH-ANC year round service.

Thats a loooong flight….wound have to be a 752.

IIRC IAH-ANC was a 73G?
 
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:23 pm

Quoting PITrules (Reply 21):
Anyone know for sure how long United served this route? Unless they have discontinued it previously in the past, I believe it goes back about 30 years.

Although not completely certain myself, somehow that sounds about correct.....

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0
Quoting codc10 (Reply 6):
The battle is between AS and DL.

Would anyone at this time be wise to get in the middle of the AS/DL squabble, especially at SEA?

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
The strategy for both seems to be to let AS and DL squabble and stay out of the way, at least in non-core markets

If it gets down to defending hub territory, then yes, UA needs to do what it has to. In the meantime, as stated here, if it's not hub territory, then get out of the way of AS/DL and their war (or whatever it is they have going on) and no sense in any carrier having their own coffers diminish along with AS and DL if its not in their interests.

 
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:35 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 22):
IIRC IAH-ANC was a 73G?

It was a 753.
 
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:53 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
but it's not really any different from WN dropping SEA/PDX-SLC

Hadn't seen that. Wow

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
perhaps just an error.
Quoting ANA787 (Reply 12):
It's true.

Exactly

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.
Quoting seatback (Reply 17):

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.

Effect=Results

Affect=Influence

You wonder if DL is having some affect on them -or-

You wonder if DL is having some influence on them

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Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:40 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Wasn't this flight an extension of IAH-SEA….with great yield upfront IAH-ANC, and made use of an aircraft that would have other wise been idle.

Wrong. Yields up front were NOT good, and how do I know that? Because United (and previously Continental) publishes the upgrade list on the website. When the forward cabin has 16 chairs, and 14 of them are free upgrades, that's NOT a good yield. Even as a silver, SEA-ANC was almost always a guaranteed upgrade leg for me. Nevermind as a gold.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Thats a loooong flight….wound have to be a 752.

Wrong again. In the past, it's been a 738 and a 753.

Quoting PITrules (Reply 21):
Anyone know for sure how long United served this route? Unless they have discontinued it previously in the past, I believe it goes back about 30 years.

United proper? No, certainly not 30 years. Continental? I know they've served it year round since I moved to ANC in 2005.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 22):
IIRC IAH-ANC was a 73G
Quoting seahawks7757 (Reply 24):
It was a 753

In the time that I've lived here, it's been a double-daily seasonal 738 in 2005 and 2006, a single daily 738, a single daily 752, and a single daily 753. All seasonal, of course. Periodically, they'd throw a 762 on the route when they had a large freight load. Which was ALWAYS a nice surprise at the gate!!! Center bizfirst solo seat? Yes, please!
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:10 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 26):
United proper? No, certainly not 30 years. Continental? I know they've served it year round since I moved to ANC in 2005.

United started the route in 1983 or 1984; I'm just not sure if they ever suspended the route since.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:15 am

Quoting PITrules (Reply 21):
Anyone know for sure how long United served this route? Unless they have discontinued it previously in the past, I believe it goes back about 30 years.

It had to be after August 1, 1982 http://www.departedflights.com/UA080182p104.jpg as I don't see SEA-ANC on the timetable.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:40 am

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 28):
It had to be after August 1, 1982 http://www.departedflights.com/UA080182p104.jpg as I don't see SEA-ANC on the timetable.

Here's a route map from 1984:
http://www.departedflights.com/UA060184.html

One from early 1983 on the same site did not have ANC/FAI.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:47 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
BA TPA-LGW NOV 1.0>1.3

Has BA gone more than just 1 daily on the route in the past?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
SY BOS-MSP SEP 0.1>1.5 OCT 0>1.4

B6 should have jumped on this one.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL LGA-MHT JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4 NOV 3>4

2nd week in a row MHT gets an increase!

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA DEN-MEX APR 0.3>0.1

Wow - this isn't daily and especially during Easter. AM and Y4 must be doing something right on this route.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:04 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
KE DFW-ICN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.8

Not DL, try again  

I think this is just middle market frequency reductions. April and May don't seem like the highest travel months to Korea. Those would be the highest travel months to JAPAN, but not Korea. lol

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0

How many freqs does AS have on this flight?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:05 am

AS had to reduce something to make all those SLC additions work. You can't get something for nothing. As might still fine tune the schedules but they gotta put in something that works.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:23 am

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 30):

No, last year was the first year that BA went year round daily fight on TPA to LGW route, this will be a fist where it's more than daily. It's strange to see them increasing Tampa when Orlando just went down from 3 to 2 daily.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:33 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA DFW-CRP MAY 7>8 JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9 AUG 8>9 SEP 8>9 OCT 8>9 NOV 8>9

This is because they are dropping the A319 on the route. It will be all CR2s and E145s. Again. I enjoyed the 319 while it lasted, but it is such a short flight to have such amenities, so I don't blame them.

I hope they introduce E75s on this route, an A319 is a bit too much capacity, and a small regional jet is just small. The E75 I personally think is a great fit.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:32 am

Quoting PITrules (Reply 27):
United started the route in 1983 or 1984; I'm just not sure if they ever suspended the route since.

In the past eight years, they've served it summer only, and only for one or two years. They left ANC altogether pre-merger, probably 2008 or 2009, then returned with seasonal service, then left again, and finally merged and inherited CO's fairly loyal ANC following.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:38 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Thats a loooong flight….wound have to be a 752.

Maybe now they just route the TX oil workers via DEN.

Delta does seasonal ATL-ANC with a 752.

IAH-ANC should be alright with a 800 with winglets. It may face some issues.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:11 am

Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 33):
It's strange to see them increasing Tampa when Orlando just went down from 3 to 2 daily.

Orlando has never been three daily, and it hasn't been two daily (14w) in a long time.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:18 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Response to AS
*DL DTW-SEA SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5 NOV 4>5

Response or signal? AS hasn't entered the market yet so maybe just saying "Stay out"?

Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
This seems like a lot of frequency reductions in key AS markets. Now AS will still have quite a big presence in these markets, but with these reductions, you wonder if DL is having some effect on them.

I think they will absolutely have an effect on them.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
I noticed last night that AS's summer sked appears to have been loaded and I was very unpleasantly surprised to see that they reduced SAN-SEA
by 2 daily departures over last summer's offerings (from 9x daily to 7.) That wasn't quite the reaction I was expecting from them in light of the new
service in the market announced by both DL and WN.

With all of the additional nonstop capacity, combined with all of the one-stop options over SFO/SJC/OAK/LAS/SLC/LAX/etc, it really is a no-brainer.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
Now that I see reductions in many of the other SEA markets, I'm not as upset and figure that a lot of these frequency reductions are due to the
increase in use of their new 739s in those markets. In fact, perhaps the overall capacity offered could be about the same as it was last year.

I'm not sure that adding in the marginal increase in passengers onboard the 739's over the 738's would really make up the difference over the displayed drop in capacity. Time will tell.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 31):
How many freqs does AS have on this flight?

From the OP:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AS SEA-ANC JUN 19>18 JUL 19>18 NOV 11>12

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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:30 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AS SEA-FCA JUN 3>2

This is where the new aircraft comes from for the new PDX flight, just helps re-inforce my beliefs that AS is considering PDX a viable second hub, perfect for connecting traffic vs the larger O/D market of SEA.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Delta wins again
**UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0
Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 3):
Might as well get out of the middle of that fight before things start to get bloody. UA has enough to worry about without getting in the middle of the AS/DL fight in SEA.

In a way AS has won here, now it is just one carrier to battle with, but as one can see AS is winning the market with 18-19 flights a day.

Quoting codc10 (Reply 6):
Was UA "winning" when DL dropped SFO-NRT?

Yes.

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
Didn't VX exit the route? And didn't UA only add that freq when VX entered? My memory could be wrong.
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
WN dropping SEA/PDX-SLC

Wow, seems WN sees PDX/SEA markets as longer haul than the short hops of the Morris Air routes they acquired.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
(I note with interest that AS has responded to all of that with a pullback in their SAN-SEA service on their summer schedule.)

I'm guessing they chose not to bleed all summer, unique approach, but a conservative one which AS is known for.

Quoting PITrules (Reply 21):
Anyone know for sure how long United served this route? Unless they have discontinued it previously in the past, I believe it goes back about 30 years.

First thing I can find is Feb 15th, 1985 and UA had 2 72S and 1 727 a day to/frrom SEA. So yeah, darn near 30 years.

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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:03 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
BA TPA-LGW NOV 1.0>1.3
Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 30):
Has BA gone more than just 1 daily on the route in the past?
Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 33):
No, last year was the first year that BA went year round daily fight on TPA to LGW route, this will be a fist where it's more than daily. It's strange to see them increasing Tampa when Orlando just went down from 3 to 2 daily.

This is significant for TPA - first time a European carrier is offering more than a daily frequency there.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:04 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 22):
IIRC IAH-ANC was a 73G?
Quoting seahawks7757 (Reply 24):

It was a 753.
Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 36):
IAH-ANC should be alright with a 800 with winglets. It may face some issues.

As was posted, it's been 738/752/753. The 738s took some weight penalties iirc. I forgot where I was arriving from at IAH (maybe MSY or DEN) but the 753 was turning to ANC and the gate area was packed.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:58 pm

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 40):
This is significant for TPA - first time a European carrier is offering more than a daily frequency there.

Maybe tied to a Cruise package with BA Holidays? Right now the cruises out of TPA are some of the cheapest around.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:40 pm

From an OAG thread in early Feb.
BA MCO-LGW APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.8 JUN 3>1.9 JUL 3>1.8 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.9 OCT 1.9>1.7

quote=Mah4546,reply=37][/quote]

Did not know they were newer at 3 daily already but at one point they were certainly planning on flying 3 daily and it was for sale at 3 daily.

[Edited 2014-03-04 07:43:36]
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:31 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 39):
First thing I can find is Feb 15th, 1985 and UA had 2 72S and 1 727 a day to/frrom SEA. So yeah, darn near 30 years.

As I said above, no, it's nowhere near thirty years.
If I walked to the corner store thirty year ago, and I did it again today, does that automatically mean I've done it every day in the meanwhile?
United has come and gone from Anchorage in recent years altogether. Nevermind just the SEA route.
 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:53 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL MEM-TPA MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0 SEP 0.9>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.8>0

Does this suggest at all that the WN flight made this one not-viable for DL? Or are MEM cuts except for ATL, MSP, DTW and possibly LGA inevitable no matter what anybody else does or doesn't do?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:00 pm

Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 43):
Did not know they were newer at 3 daily already but at one point they were certainly planning on flying 3 daily and it was for sale at 3 daily.

You are confusing BA and VS. British Airways has never even loaded thrice daily. The most ever operated was 12 weekly.

Quoting enilria (Reply 44):
UA has always had this joke schedule in DEN-MEX with flights a couple of times per week for Holidays. Lame.

Why is it lame? It's almost entirely Mexico City-originating traffic going to ski resorts.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:53 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 47):
You are confusing BA and VS. British Airways has never even loaded thrice daily. The most
ever operated was 12 weekly.

I'm not confusing VS and BA, I can tell you for a fact that it was BA and I have seen it loaded and sold as 3 daily.
From an OAG thread in early Feb.
BA MCO-LGW APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.8 JUN 3>1.9 JUL 3>1.8 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.9 OCT 1.9>1.

I work in a travel department of a credit card company that you yourself have previously said you have in your wallet and
I've seen it sold as 3 daily. It may have newer operated at more then 12 weekly but BA at one point was planning on
operating a 3 daily schedule.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:26 pm

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 46):
Does this suggest at all that the WN flight made this one not-viable for DL?
Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 46):
cuts except for ATL, MSP, DTW and possibly LGA inevitable

Yes and Yes. I'm sure it hurt DL, but I don't think they have any intention of keeping any point to point there. It is just a wind-down.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 47):
Quoting enilria (Reply 44):
UA has always had this joke schedule in DEN-MEX with flights a couple of times per week for Holidays. Lame.

Why is it lame? It's almost entirely Mexico City-originating traffic going to ski resorts.

Colorado is heavily Hispanic. I get that the ethnic tie is not to the area of Mexico that MEX is in, but it is the capitol of the country. There really should be a market there. UA is supposed to be specializing in int'l. UA has just never shown much interest in int'l from DEN. THey had to get a huge check to do NRT.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/7/2014: AA/DL/UA Drops ANC-SEA

Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:34 am

Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 33):
No, last year was the first year that BA went year round daily fight on TPA to LGW route, this will be a fist where it's more than daily. It's strange to see them increasing Tampa when Orlando just went down from 3 to 2 daily.
Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 40):
This is significant for TPA - first time a European carrier is offering more than a daily frequency there.

I was wondering the exact same thing if this would be the first over-daily frequency. It's great to see, but wouldn't there be some press conference or something? TPA loves creating press, even if its Edelweiss increasing from 1 to 2 weekly. Should I expect one soon?

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 42):
Maybe tied to a Cruise package with BA Holidays? Right now the cruises out of TPA are some of the cheapest around.

And the amount of cruises sailing is increasing from the Port of Tampa Bay since RCI is bringing there second ship this up coming winter bringing it to a total of seven cruise ships docked there.

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