United Fleet Upgrade Status Part 19

AA737-823 · Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:52 am

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 49):
The SlimLine seats are made by BE Aerospace, supposedly based on their Pinnacle line. Recaro is a company based in Stuttgart Germany, BE Aerospace is a company based in Florida USA. I've heard good and bad about the Airbus seats, I'll check one out tomorrow. The SlimLines are good looking and comfortable.

Roger that; I was under the impression that the new Airbus seats were Recaros. Disregard...

CALTECH · Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:29 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 50):
Roger that; I was under the impression that the new Airbus seats were Recaros. Disregard...

They are. Airbus has the Recaros, new 737s are getting the SlimLines from BE Aerospace.

AA737-823 · Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:33 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 51):
They are. Airbus has the Recaros, new 737s are getting the SlimLines from BE Aerospace.

Roger Roger. In that case, there's hope! Since you say that Boeing's seats both look AND feel nice... I look forward to trying them out on an ANC-DEN/ORD run soon!

UA444 · Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:03 pm

I've flown on the new Airbus seats several times. They are far less comfortable than the seats they are replacing. The only thing they're better than is the park benches in the ex CO 737s.

CALTECH · Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:34 am

Acft # 259 is in MCO getting it's Scimitars. More wing reinforcement is being put in.

Pictures of the BE Aerospace SlimLine seats. The darker headrests are Economy+, the lighter blue are Regular Economy. It can be seen that E+ goes for the first 4 1/2 rows, then there is 2 1/2 rows of regular economy, then the 2 more rows of E+ at the overwing emergency exits. Odd, bean counting solution. Those cloth checkerboard seats are on the way out now. Acft # 812.

First Class seats are nice.

[Edited 2014-03-29 19:55:37]

[Edited 2014-03-29 19:56:38]

OldTTAguy · Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:42 pm

Does anyone know the N-Number sequences planned for the United-owned E175's to be operated by Mesa? Apparently nosegear door fleet number is 302, but only photo I can find still shows its temporary foreign registration.

kgaiflyer · Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:10 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 53):
They are far less comfortable than the seats they are replacing.

Flew on one yesterday -- Aircraft #4269 flying as UA772 LAX-IAD.

Utterly no lumbar support -- like being lashed to a back-board for 4 1/2 hours.

n515cr · Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:53 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 2):
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2], 16540-47542 [3], 81546, 87551-87552 [2], 81556 -87557 [2]. (may all go away with CLE hub)

Per Airways Mag, N81533, N87554, and N47542 have been sold in the last few weeks. Of the remaining 7 aircraft, 6 are in new colors, with the 7th being unknown...likely house colors.

UE158 ? N38537
UE147 New N81535
UE152 New N81536
UE187 New N81546
UE206 New N87551
UE239 New N81556
UE246 New N87557

calpsafltskeds · Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:26 pm

Quoting n515cr (Reply 57):
Per Airways Mag, N81533, N87554, and N47542 have been sold in the last few weeks. Of the remaining 7 aircraft, 6 are in new colors, with the 7th being unknown...likely house colors.

UE158 ? N38537
UE147 New N81535
UE152 New N81536
UE187 New N81546
UE206 New N87551
UE239 New N81556
UE246 New N87557

Check out this Press Release from Silver Airways

http://www.silverairways.com/about-s...e-network-and-saab-340b-plus-fleet

According to the Release, 3M has 5 B1900s that will be retired in May and exiting CLE markets.
It looks like 3 aircraft are needed to fly CLE operations as there seems to be banks of 3 flights out of/in to CLE. They all show A/C #815, mus be with the N numbers starting with 815. Interestingly enough, pulling the N815xx numbers from above show no results on FlightAware.

ord · Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:07 am

The new interiors look great. I noticed those first class seats do not have the look of the economy seats and lack the horizontal stitching that widens as it gets lower on the seat back and the United-branded tag. The CRJ-700 first class seats, shown in the press release when the new look was announced, look just like the economy seats only wider.

Does anybody know why the mainline first class seats do not more closely look like the economy seats as on the CRJs?

calpsafltskeds · Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:58 am

738:
N73259 entered MCO 1044/24Mar for scimitar singlet install

744:
N117UA entered ORD 6881/27Mar
N175UA sked to enter SFO 862/30Mar

764:
N67052 exited HKG 7964/29Mar

772:
N768UA exit and N772UA entry at HKG delayed for Hawaiian mod program
N218UA entered HKG 895/28Mar
N227UA entered HKG 895/28Mar

milestones787 · Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:24 am

How many 737s have had the scimitar winglet installed so far?

calpsafltskeds · Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:49 pm

788:
N26910 sked to enter revenue service 95/31Mar DEN-IAH

A320:
N485UA sked to exit LCQ 6870/31Mar with slimline seats

772:
N768UA (Hawaiian reconfiguration mod) now sked for test hop at HKG 6869/2Apr

Quoting milestones787 (Reply 61):

How many 737s have had the scimitar winglet installed so far?

As far as I know, just one 738 installed and one in mod. 739 is in testing mod.

CALTECH · Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:55 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 62):
As far as I know, just one 738 installed and one in mod. 739 is in testing mod.

# 277 installed, #478 in testing, # 259 in MOD, # 288 scheduled for end of March for Scimitar installs.

SlimLines and KA Band installs are going like gang busters now. Same with inductions.

ordbosewr · Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:28 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 63):

SlimLines and KA Band installs are going like gang busters now. Same with inductions.

Will these slow down with the high summer season coming? Any thoughts/insight?

jetblastdubai · Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:02 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 63):
going like gang busters now. Same with inductions.

Are 739 deliveries going to pick up a bit more or are the 757 retirements going to slow down and let the narrowbody fleet numbers grow quicker?

n515cr · Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:45 pm

Photo confirms E170 N647RW in new colors: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thechickenworks/13335319585/

8 E170's are still in Blue.

calpsafltskeds · Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:16 pm

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 64):
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 63):

SlimLines and KA Band installs are going like gang busters now. Same with inductions.

Will these slow down with the high summer season coming? Any thoughts/insight?

Slimlines on the 320 fleet have been about 6-7 per month the last couple months. At that rate it would take about 5 months to complete. There could be a slowing during summer. FYI: 319s have only received 9 of 55 slimlines, a much slow rate than 320s.
There have been a lot of 739s going trough INT and assume WiFi is being turned sometime on after the visits. Don't know when the 738s will have WiFi added or turned on.

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 65):
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 63):
going like gang busters now. Same with inductions.

Are 739 deliveries going to pick up a bit more or are the 757 retirements going to slow down and let the narrowbody fleet numbers grow quicker?

The official fleet plan shows 37 752 retirements this year (I've only for sure noted one, but it looks like N515/533/540UA are in SFO and will not fly revenue again. Others sold to FedEx are still flying.
The fleet plan shows 30 added 739s this year - 10 have already been delivered. By quarter, fleet plan says 8, 9, 6 & 7 for a total of 30.
The fleet plan shows 4 788s this year (2 already delivered) and 2 789 aircraft for a total of 6 new widebodies. One 763 is slated for retirement in the 4th quarter 2014.

If the fleet plan is correct, UA will be down 7 narrowbodies and up 5 widebodies by the end of 2014 vs. the beginning of the year.

CALTECH · Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:27 pm

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 64):
Will these slow down with the high summer season coming? Any thoughts/insight?

They will slow down but will continue through the summer months.

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 65):
Are 739 deliveries going to pick up a bit more or are the 757 retirements going to slow down and let the narrowbody fleet numbers grow quicker?

Showing 2-3 737-900ER deliveries per month, and 2-4 757-200 PW retirements per month.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 67):
Slimlines on the 320 fleet have been about 6-7 per month the last couple months. At that rate it would take about 5 months to complete. There could be a slowing during summer. FYI: 319s have only received 9 of 55 slimlines, a much slow rate than 320s.
There have been a lot of 739s going trough INT and assume WiFi is being turned sometime on after the visits. Don't know when the 738s will have WiFi added or turned on.

Summer months looks like slows down June, July, and August, but then picks back up in September.

WiFi is getting turned on the 739s, about 35 so far. Already showing 738s with WiFi and activated, # 224 is one. Should be 5 of them by end of today.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 67):
The official fleet plan shows 37 752 retirements this year (I've only for sure noted one, but it looks like N515/533/540UA are in SFO and will not fly revenue again. Others sold to FedEx are still flying.
The fleet plan shows 30 added 739s this year - 10 have already been delivered. By quarter, fleet plan says 8, 9, 6 & 7 for a total of 30.
The fleet plan shows 4 788s this year (2 already delivered) and 2 789 aircraft for a total of 6 new widebodies. One 763 is slated for retirement in the 4th quarter 2014.

December will be a large month for retirements, slow season.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 67):
If the fleet plan is correct, UA will be down 7 narrowbodies and up 5 widebodies by the end of 2014 vs. the beginning of the year.

Goodness, that is a massive shrinking of the domestic fleet. How will United ever survive ?

n515cr · Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:39 am

EV CR2 N825AS in new colors: https://www.flickr.com/photos/planes/13296611644/in/pool-regionaljets%7Cplanes

FriendlySkies · Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:08 am

Not sure if it's been answered before, but I know I've asked a few times about the color of the new Airbus seats. I flew today on N441UA and can confirm at least one A320 has slim lines with the new blue signature seat covers. Seats aren't great but were fine for a 4 hour flight.

CALTECH · Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:47 am

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 70):
Not sure if it's been answered before, but I know I've asked a few times about the color of the new Airbus seats. I flew today on N441UA and can confirm at least one A320 has slim lines with the new blue signature seat covers. Seats aren't great but were fine for a 4 hour flight.

Are you sure ? Pretty sure they are grey on the Airbus A-320 for the Recaro slim line seats.

jetblastdubai · Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:01 am

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 68):
Goodness, that is a massive shrinking of the domestic fleet. How will United ever survive ?

Hopefully 2015 will be better for fleet growth numbers. I haven't been able to find a delivery schedule for the E175s but between the UA and OO order, there should be 70 frames coming on the property before the end of next year. That's as good as any mainline narrowbody IMHO

I'm still holding out for an E190 (or equivalent) order by UA once the F/A contracts get sorted out.

FriendlySkies · Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:44 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 71):
Are you sure ? Pretty sure they are grey on the Airbus A-320 for the Recaro slim line seats.

I'm 100% sure, I was sitting in a dark blue Economy Plus seat complete with the stamped in "Economy Plus" in the headrest and the little blue tag. Wasn't able to take photos, but they were the same Recaro seats just with the new signature covers.

I'd been on two other slimed out A320s with grey seats, so I was surprised to see it as well. N441UA was the aircraft.

codc10 · Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:43 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 73):
I'm 100% sure, I was sitting in a dark blue Economy Plus seat complete with the stamped in "Economy Plus" in the headrest and the little blue tag. Wasn't able to take photos, but they were the same Recaro seats just with the new signature covers.

Well, from a branding and customer experience perspective, it would make sense to have some semblance of a cohesive interior design... but common sense is in short supply at UAL these days.

CALTECH · Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:10 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 73):
I'm 100% sure, I was sitting in a dark blue Economy Plus seat complete with the stamped in "Economy Plus" in the headrest and the little blue tag. Wasn't able to take photos, but they were the same Recaro seats just with the new signature covers.

I'd been on two other slimed out A320s with grey seats, so I was surprised to see it as well. N441UA was the aircraft.

Maybe they changed the covers to match the blue BE Aerospace SlimLines. We'll see how it pans out or look for more info. So Blue won over the Gray yet again.

calpsafltskeds · Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:13 pm

ERJ175:
N88301, First Mesa ERJ175 delivered (arrived IAH today).

739ER:
N63820 (new delivery) exited SEA after induction, now en route IAH 6861/2Apr.

744:
N117UA exited ORD 3/31/14 - could have been positioned as a spare.

763:
N663UA exited IAH 909/1Apr - might have been a spare in IAH

[Edited 2014-04-02 14:22:21]

calpsafltskeds · Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:34 am

319:
N802UA entered LCQ 4/2/14 - could be for seats
N803UA entered LCQ 4/3/14 - could be for seats

320:
N409UA exited LCQ 6850/3Apr with slimline seats/bins (already had Wifi)
N458UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/4Apr - doesn't show new seats on United.com

738:
N73276 entered MCO 4/3/14 - possibly for scimitar Winglets

744:
N175UA sked to exit SFO 903/4Apr

763:
N642UA entered CWF 6854/2Apr for Globe paint
N644UA sked to exit SFO 6853/4Apr

772:
N768UA sked to exit HKG 6852/5Aopr and found it operating 534/5Apr out of HNL in Hawaiian reconfig
N772UA sked to enter HKG 6850/5Apr for Hawaiian reconfiguration - this will retire the old 3 class 772 config.

[Edited 2014-04-03 20:42:00]

[Edited 2014-04-03 20:45:22]

CALTECH · Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:20 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 77):
319:
N802UA entered LCQ 4/2/14 - could be for seats
N803UA entered LCQ 4/3/14 - could be for seats

Both seem to be in for a electronic rack MOD.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 77):
320:
N409UA exited LCQ 6850/3Apr with slimline seats/bins (already had Wifi)
N458UA sked to exit LCQ 6857/4Apr - doesn't show new seats on United.com

N458UA looks to be just another MOD, FTIS, Fuel Tank Inerting System.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 77):
738:
N73276 entered MCO 4/3/14 - possibly for scimitar Winglets

Just a '2C' Heavy Check.

iahcsr · Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:48 pm

No reason they can't install scimitars on 276 while it's there.. That would be the perfect time

codc10 · Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:46 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 75):
Maybe they changed the covers to match the blue BE Aerospace SlimLines. We'll see how it pans out or look for more info. So Blue won over the Gray yet again.

Can confirm this is the case. I am presently on board N473UA with Recaro slimes and blue leather seat covers in Y.

CALTECH · Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:07 pm

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 79):
No reason they can't install scimitars on 276 while it's there.. That would be the perfect time

Not enough manpower, it is extra work afterall. There is manpower enough for the 'C' Check and not much else. The sheetmetal work in the wings for the Scimitars is extensive. Think the Scimitar Mod has a schedule of approx 10-14 days with the reinforcement of the wings.

Quoting codc10 (Reply 80):
Can confirm this is the case. I am presently on board N473UA with Recaro slimes and blue leather seat covers in Y.

So the Blue is in, good it will all look the same after a while. Good to see it all trying to go for one look across the fleet. Liked it when Continental was almost down to one seat type. We have so many different types of seats again after the merger and the seats being changed on new deliveries. The Blue is a good color.

CALTECH · Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:17 pm

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 40):
Only 18 738s have the third lav. It was to be the new standard on all 738s before 9/11 happened. Now that the aircraft are coming due for D checks it was decided to end the sub-fleet.

Actually, they are going into Special Holds and getting the Mid Cabin LAV removed, Aft Cabin Reconfig, LiveTV and SlimLine. Should start 2Q14.

Guam 737-800s should start getting SlimLines late this year, around December.

Should have about 65 aircraft with the SlimLines installed as of now.

747s should be getting ISP soon.

Wi-Fi Systems installs the Panasonic, the LiveTV, or the GOGO Wi-Fi systems, scheduled on Special Holds and Base Checks. Completion 2015, end of 2014 should see approx 500 aircraft with WiFi.

calpsafltskeds · Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:30 pm

739ER:
N37427 now has WiFi

744:
N175UA exited SFO 903/4Apr

763:
N644UA exited SFO 6853/2Apr

764:
N66056 sked to exit HKG 6861/6Apr

772:
N204UA sked to exit SFO 885/6Apr
N206UA sked to exit HKG 896/6Apr
N798UA sked to enter PEK 6856/6Apr
N771UA entered SFO 4/2/14
N780UA entered SFO 4/3/14
N786UA entered HKG 3/28/14

unitedchicago · Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:19 am

do the 737 slimlines have direct tv on the back or are slims just for the streaming product?

calpsafltskeds · Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:55 pm

738:
N14242 exited SFO 1647/16Apr with WiFi
N73259 sked to exit MCO 1730/8Apr, should have scimitar winglets

739:
N38459 WiFi on
N37465 WiFi on

763:
N662UA entered GSO 6855/6Apr
N654UA exited GSO 6868/5Apr

772:
N226UA sked to exit HKG 6860/8Apr

[Edited 2014-04-07 07:33:27]

codc10 · Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:09 pm

Quoting unitedchicago (Reply 84):
do the 737 slimlines have direct tv on the back or are slims just for the streaming product?

PTV monitors are compatible with the B/E slims.

calpsafltskeds · Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:22 am

772:
N210UA sked to exit SFO 300/11Apr in Hawaiian config
N215UA sked to enter SFO 369/9Apr for Hawaiian mod
N772UA in SFO, looks to be waiting for N768UA to exit HKG (Hawaiian mod)
N780UA exited SFO 300/9Apr

CALTECH · Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:59 pm

787-9 Final Assembly Rollout.

https://hub.united.com/en-us/news/company-operations/pages/united-first-787-9.aspx#F3i25uDLVQMxTaVD.01

fun2fly · Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:01 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 88):
787-9 Final Assembly Rollout.

Sweet pic angle! Looks great.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 87):
N210UA sked to exit SFO 300/11Apr in Hawaiian config
N215UA sked to enter SFO 369/9Apr for Hawaiian mod
N772UA in SFO, looks to be waiting for N768UA to exit HKG (Hawaiian mod)

All done then for the 772 mods and Hawaii mods?

calpsafltskeds · Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:17 am

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 89):
All done then for the 772 mods and Hawaii mods?

Not quite.

mod from 3 class to Hawaiian (3)
N779UA completed at HKG 1/30/14
N768UA in mod HKG, exit soon hopefully
N772UA presumably waiting for N768UA to exit HKG

mod from domestic to Hawaiian (6)
N213UA completed at SFO 10/20/13
N211UA completed at SFO 12/24/13
N212UA completed at SFO 2/20/14
N210UA completed at SFO 4/9/14
N215UA entered SFO 4/6/14 - could be for mod
N214UA waiting its turn before or after N215UA

738:
N76526 and N78524 both in INT, hopefully will get E+

763:
N646UA entered AMA 6862/10Apr, must be for Globe paint
That puts two 763s in paint (N642UA in CWF) Glad to see these are getting painted. 3 more to go after these two.
Will the 4 744s be next for paint?

CALTECH · Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:07 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 90):
N772UA presumably waiting for N768UA to exit HKG

Yes.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 90):
N214UA waiting its turn before or after N215UA

Waiting for N210UA to clear.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 90):
N76526 and N78524 both in INT, hopefully will get E+

Both are receiving E+.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 90):
763:
N646UA entered AMA 6862/10Apr, must be for Globe paint
That puts two 763s in paint (N642UA in CWF) Glad to see these are getting painted. 3 more to go after these two.
Will the 4 744s be next for paint?

Both fleets are scheduled to be done in May, 747-400 19 th of May, 767-300 21st of MAy.

CALTECH · Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:12 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 91):
Both fleets are scheduled to be done in May, 747-400 19 th of May, 767-300 21st of MAy.

Should read 'Both fleets are scheduled to be completed by May 2014.'

Coalways · Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:23 pm

[quote=CALTECH,reply=81]The Blue is a good color. [/quote. Was on a flight the other day that had the blue seats, yhe seats were VERY detailed. Like how the sides were a dark gray and white and gray stitching throughout. They did a very good job of not doing the boring straight blue like DL & US.

durangomac · Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:33 pm

Second E175 (N105SY) for OO is inbound to ORD on its delivery flight.

CALTECH · Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:22 am

# 259 had her Scimitars installed.

CALTECH · Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:49 pm

calpsafltskeds · Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:08 am

319:
N845UA exited LCQ 6851/14Apr with new slimline seats/bins (already had WiFi)

739:
N68821 sked to enter SEA 6871/16Apr for new delivery induction
N28478 appears to be returning from split scimitar winglet testing - sked for flight 1242/16Apr 9probably ahd scimitars removed after testing as did first 738 aircraft)

744:
N197UA exited HKG 862/11Apr

772:
N788UA sked to enter HKG 6850/15Apr
N206UA exited PEK 6863/15Apr
N78003 sked to exit HKG 6879/17Apr

AviationAddict · Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:20 pm

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 96):

Are the -700s and the -900A models getting the Scimitars too or just the -800s and -900ERs?

calpsafltskeds · Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:16 am

772:
N768UA sked to exit HKG 6860/17Apr with hawaiian reconfiguration
No word on N772UA going into HKG for last old 3 class to Hawaiian reconfig.

763:
N642UA exited CWF 6876/16Apr in Globe Paint
N658UA entered CWF 6876/16Apr for Globe paint

739:
N85428 WiFi on
N78438 WiFi on
N39450 WiFi on
N37464 WiFi on

[Edited 2014-04-16 22:19:51]

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