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Quoting SA7700 (Thread starter): A select few members have been making remarks towards others in the “Missing Malaysia Airlines 777 threads” for speculating about the fate of 9M-MRO, her crew and passengers. Given the fact that there is so much uncertainty going on at this stage, speculation is going to be a factor on this site and also at the biggest and greatest news corporations of the globe. At least until we all have a clearer picture. Is it a perfect situation – certainly not? That being said, we need to stay dynamic in a possible fast-changing situation. It is not unique to this incident and if we go back in history and trace remarkable aviation events we will see that speculation has been an aspect, essential to some healthy debate. It is not the intention of the moderators to stifle the opinions of members that fall within the rules-and regulations of airliners.net. All that we kindly request from all our members is to stay within the site’s parameters. Please be respectful towards one another and let us all hope for the best possible outcome. Enjoy the forums! |
Quoting cipango (Reply 2): I did a quick recap for people that haven’t read through (partially or entirely) the other parts of this topic. Its very long at this stage (1,500+) so I will do another one for this part of the thread as some appreciated it in the last thread. |
Quoting gulfstream650 (Reply 4): It doesn't look like a door and I can't think what part (at least outer) of the 777 that it could be. |
Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 5): Given the length of the plane, and the depth of the water, a nose dive could impact the sea floor. Wouldn't that have an effect on the possible debris amount and field size? |
Quoting cipango (Reply 2): I did a quick recap for people that haven’t read through (partially or entirely) the other parts of this topic. Its very long at this stage (1,500+) so I will do another one for this part of the thread as some appreciated it in the last thread. |
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Quoting cipango (Reply 2): - Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, USA, Philippines (and maybe China) are currently helping in the search effort. |
Quoting flyenthu (Reply 8): In the link below there is a clip titled "Could plane have disintegrated?" where Richard Quest refers to ACARS and you can infer that the plane was equipped with ACARS and that nothing unusual was noted. If you page down, you will find this clip on the left. |
Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 5): Given the length of the plane, and the depth of the water, a nose dive could impact the sea floor. Wouldn't that have an effect on the possible debris amount and field size? |
Quoting jfritz (Reply 9): Excellent point, it's possible the aircraft could have even impact the floor of the sea at a high rate of speed |
Quoting Redsand187 (Reply 11): I believe the gforce of the plane hitting the water at hundreds of miles per hour would likely be so high the plane would disintegrate on impact, and not go into the water like a dart. Also, while it's not 100% comparable, if you shoot a bullet into water it will only travel a few meters before it loses momentum. The drag of the water is so great that it likely wouldn't make it all the way to the bottom of the sea floor via force. It would probably make it halfway and then negative bouancy would pull it further down. I would also suspect the debris field, while not huge in size would be huge in pieces as the plane would break into a million pieces. By now floating debris would be pretty far spread out by the current. My guess is they are looking in t |
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Quoting B2707SST (Reply 14): Returning to the ACARS messages that were so crucial in AF447, comments on previous threads indicated that 9M-MRO did not have a SatCom antenna |
Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 13): Could that part be an interior window panel? |
Quoting 747megatop (Reply 187): After AF-447 and now MH-370 is there any plans by the manufacturers to introduce technology to have aircrafts automatically transmit short text messages on a continuous basis (let's say every minute) that contain location, altitude and speed to the Airline's base? In this modern age with so much technology available a plane should not just go missing. |
Quoting B2707SST (Reply 14): Returning to the ACARS messages that were so crucial in AF447, comments on previous threads indicated that 9M-MRO did not have a SatCom antenna. |
Quoting BSLFRA (Reply 16): I had a quite intensive experience by a gate agent in Delhi boarding for a AI 774 aircraft to Frankfurt |
Quoting 345tas (Reply 17): Is he usually a knowledgable guy in these sorts of events? |
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Quoting Mortyman (Reply 18): Could such an impact set off on a Richter magnitude scale ? |
Quoting s5daw (Reply 23): Could it? Water stops fast objects pretty quickly. Bullets are not lethal a few meters under water IIRC. |
Quoting cipango (Reply 2): - One Russian was stopped in KUL for using a stolen passport and was not allowed to board. |
Quoting awthompson (Reply 24): Into the bargain I took a photo while boarding one of my flights at KUL and guess what was taxiing past in the background but 9M-MRO ! |
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 38): Didn't you already post that photo in an earlier part of this thread? This thread is already long enough without repeating previous posts. |
Quoting stuyyz (Reply 37): In the current CNN main webpage article "The shift came at the request of the Malaysians, who are looking into possibilities the plane turned around and could have gone down in the Andaman Sea". This seems incredulous, if I'm reading the maps correctly, this means they think the plan flew back over Malaysia (apparently undetected by radar) and crashed in the Andaman Sea? |
Quoting awthompson (Reply 27): This technology is already fitted to the vast majority of airliners flying today. It is called ADSB. Even better, it transmits the 'text' you describe every second and anyone with an ADSB receiver can receive and decipher the data. This is how certain flight tracking websites obtain their data. |
Quoting Condor24 (Reply 39): I am amazed at how the media and bloggers refer to a crashed aircraft. Until any wreckage is found, the aircraft is one that has 'disappeared'. Due respect for those with family & friends on board this aircraft |
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Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 43): That would indicate to me they have information that isn't being shared with the public. |