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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:18 pm

This is all very strange! a modern jetliner just dissapearing and nobody seems to have any idea where it is! All just speculation at this stage.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:18 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/11/wo...irlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
With all due respect, he can not be sure of that, yet.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:20 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 193):
In many cultures in Asia loss of face is a big issue, I am wondering if the military know what happened and are buying time.

I doubt Malaysian military has any clue. It is possible other countries with advanced surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities might have some idea, but if they conclude this is already a recovery mission (sad to say that) not a rescue mission, they may not come forward because protecting information about their capabilities takes precedence over helping Malaysia. It sounds cynical but reality.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:22 pm

Quoting nupogodi (Reply 204):
Only some TCAS integrates ADS-B broadcasts, apparently they call this 'hybrid surveillance':

Or TIS-B, and requires ADS-B "in" hardware installed...
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:23 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 206):

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/11/wo...irlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
With all due respect, he can not be sure of that, yet.

"we're inclined to conclude" =/= "we're sure of"

To my understanding.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:24 pm

According to airlineroute's twitter page, MH is retiring flight number MH370/371 effective March 14. MH's KUL-PEK service will be MH318/319 this Friday onwards.

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/443251160795721729/photo/1
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:27 pm

Quoting aw70 (Reply 202):
But admitting this now, after so many days, would make the Malaysian Air Force look like they are less than perfectly competent, so they might be reluctant to actually say so.

   Going by Hanlon's razor, I'd also assume that they either are not sure of their findings (data), or may have had a visit from Mr. Cock-up that they don't feel like talking about publicly.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:27 pm

This is getting weird by the minute.

Regarding terrorism hypothesis, Banda Aceh (on the Northern tip of the island of Sumatra) is well-known for terrorist activities. That would be on the way from the Gulf of Thailand - Kuala Lumpur - Strait of Malacca.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:28 pm

So 1000 meters...fairly staight course...crosses the land mass over a park...last reading out in the strait apparently same course...if a hijacking why have the lights on as reported as it approached the east coast? If a hijacking then on a course for where? What is there up ahead that can take a 777 with a good load onboard....forget commercial...forget current military....what else? Old military from WWII? Old road? Don't need to fly it off..just get it down.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:30 pm

Something else that I have not read much, if anything about here: if the flight indeed doubled back to overfly the peninsula, and if primary radar contact by the Malaysian military was lost over the Malacca strait - what about the Indonesian military? They have to have at least some primary radar sites operational that might have tracked MH370 as well? Any word from these guys yet?
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:30 pm

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 203):

As someone else probably proposed, after an emergency the pilots could have turned back towards KUL and flown over the South Andaman and Strait of Malacca dumping fuel, troubleshooting, etc. Initially, I have wondered why they might not have chosen a closer airport, but the severity of their emergency might not have been clear. Also, in other accidents, there has been proposed a tendency for some pilots to want to get to their home airport/maintenance base or destination, and not a random airfield where there is no airline/maintenance support.

You have a good point about "home base".

Zero comms seems so very unlikely but let's posit that. You lost everything. Why are you dumping fuel? First off, how would lost comms connect with an emergency where you have to dump fuel? And if the emergency is so serious that you must land soon, you would land immediately anyway and not dump fuel. Besides, with 7½ hours of fuel left that wouldn't make a 777-200ER massively heavy anyway.

For that matter, in the case of lost comms why are you going west. There are clearly defined procedures. In VFR conditions, you land at the closest practicable airport, which would probably be SGN assuming lost comms at the point where transponder data was lost. In IFR conditions, you'd follow the "AVEF" rule, Assigned Vectored Expected Filed path in that order. None of AVEF would call for a return to KUL or a diversion to SIN.

So many questions...

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 201):
Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 194):
This detection (TCAS) relies on ADS-B broadcasts

No it doesnt. TCAS is independant of ADS-B. TCAS functions off a regular Mode-A/C transponder..

  
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:30 pm

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 201):
Quoting nupogodi (Reply 204):

Thank you! The difference wasn't clear to me.



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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:33 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 193):
does Malaysian's AVOD have a live flight map (I checked their website and it seems a comprehensive system but doesn't specifically mention a live map)?

Yes. MAS AVOD system on the 772 does feature a LIVE flight map. This channel however, can be switched off.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:33 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 193):
does Malaysian's AVOD have a live flight map (I checked their website and it seems a comprehensive system but doesn't specifically mention a live map)?

Yes, I have flown many times with MH on the 772 Fleet and It does have live maps. If there's ever a spare seat next to me i always tune it into the map so I can glance at it while watching other entertainment.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:39 pm

Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 217):
Yes. MAS AVOD system on the 772 does feature a LIVE flight map. This channel however, can be switched off.

Thanks, so the passengers must have know they weren't going to Beijing, OR it was another system / channel deliberately or due to some failure turned off!
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:42 pm

Quoting traveladdict (Reply 192):
What does everyone make of this?

SOme people on the forum mentioned 9M-MRO didn't have SATCOM antenna.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 196):
What if the aircraft simply flew out of that military radar's range?

Probably not something Malaysia would like to advertise. Pulau Perak is 100km off shore from Malaysia. It would be a good location for a radar, but it seems there's only a lighthouse there? http://xnuripilot.blogspot.co.at/2011/04/pulau-perak.html

Anyway, if the plane flew further, it should be detected by Indonesia, no?
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:51 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 220):
Thanks, so the passengers must have know they weren't going to Beijing, OR it was another system / channel deliberately or due to some failure turned off!

GPS works fine inside an aircraft fuselage, and mobile devices are fully capable of locking on to GPS without AGPS. While many mobile devices require an Internet connection to download relevant map data, there are also many applications for those same devices that store map data on the device to get around this requirement. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that one passenger had such a device with such an application and would use it if the live map was switched off. Presumably they would notify other passengers. It's a sobering thought.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:51 pm

Quoting s5daw (Reply 221):

Interesting a Swedish military assault boat Stridsbåt90 in Asia  

https://www.google.se/search?q=stridsb%C3%A5t+90&client=firefox-a&hs=2nN&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ewYfU7SDH6Hl4wS09YDIAw&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1548&bih=1011
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:54 pm

Does the captain hold the vital clue to this.

Why would a 777 captain have a simulator of the same plane at home?

It does not make sense
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:55 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 182):
I think they lost around 3000ft or so from their original altitude rather than flying at 3000ft. So they were still somewhere around 30 000ft...

Which could be the single engine drift down level at that weight.

Quoting aw70 (Reply 175):
The sightings of large aircraft at low level in the Malacca strait are as of now unconfirmed.

Low flying small and large aircraft are common in the Strait of Malacca for piracy and people smuggling detection by Singaporean, Malaysian, and Australian government aircraft.

Quoting aw70 (Reply 202):
Or, more specifically, what if the Malaysian military does not want to admit that some of their primary radar stations were inoperable that night? Say, those which look out over the Malacca strait?

The Strait of Malacca has a lot of surveillance, Malaysia almost has a continuous coastal radar coverage for shipping, I think around 8 radar heads. Also keep in mind that more than likely there are 3-4 countries airspace involved here, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. If the aircraft did turn around in Vietnamese airspace, it would probably would have transited Singapore airspace before entering Malaysian.

I would be sure at a higher level the various governments would be sharing information not available to the public, there is noting to gain by embarrassing anyone when you are accepting their help.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:58 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):

Does the captain hold the vital clue to this.

Why would a 777 captain have a simulator of the same plane at home?

It does not make sense

Because he enjoys flight simming?

After all in a home flight simulator you can fly your 777 wherever you want with your own schedule, something you can't do in real life.

It's not like he's the only one, there are many pilots who enjoy FS or at least are involved in flight sim business.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:59 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):

I did ask myself the same thing when I saw the simulator, odd but he could just be a real flight nerd OTH.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:59 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):
Why would a 777 captain have a simulator of the same plane at home?

Make perfect sense to me. It would be strange if he had Tu-134 simulator...
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:01 pm

Quoting LH648 (Reply 229):

Why? I seldom do things at home that I do in the office!
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:04 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):
Does the captain hold the vital clue to this.

Why would a 777 captain have a simulator of the same plane at home?

It does not make sense

It makes perfect sense. He enjoys flying, he's an aviation enthusiast, and clearly a geek. I am jealous of his setup. He was using Flight Simulator 9 and 10 so he would be flying more than just a 777 on his sim.

A captain with 18000 hours and lots of experience on the type would not need a simulator to pull off the 'heist' or whatever the theory is about him. In a crime of that type, flying the plane would not be an issue for him, it would be the unpredictable human factors. Microsoft hasn't implemented hijack mode into Flight Simulator as of yet, I don't think.

The flight crew may have played part in this, of course, but saying that the simulator implies some motive... is asinine.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:06 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 230):
Why? I seldom do things at home that I do in the office!

Really? I do things for fun that I get paid for professionally... Some people actually love what they do, but getting paid for it and having bosses and schedules really ruins whatever it is that drew you to it in the first place.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:07 pm

Quoting traveladdict (Reply 192):
What does everyone make of this?

I can buy the cracking happening, but I can't buy the results. A slow decompression will set off the cabin altitude alerter well before the crew goes unconscious and prompt them to take action. And I can't buy the idea that China would let an unidentified primary target fly over their airspace for any significant period of time without investigating it. Chinese airspace is very restricted, and they take incursions pretty seriously.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 230):
Why? I seldom do things at home that I do in the office!

I've met pilots personally who are avid simulator enthusiasts. The reason why most of us don't to things at home that we do in the office is that what we do in the office bores the c**p out of us.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:10 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 230):

Quoting LH648 (Reply 229):

Why? I seldom do things at home that I do in the office!

And I do the same at home as in my office as my hobby is the same as my job (lucky me, well, at least when not looking at the money all the time ).
Seems to have been the same with the MAS 777 pilot, so thats perfectly fine.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:11 pm

Quoting aw70 (Reply 214):
Something else that I have not read much, if anything about here: if the flight indeed doubled back to overfly the peninsula, and if primary radar contact by the Malaysian military was lost over the Malacca strait - what about the Indonesian military? They have to have at least some primary radar sites operational that might have tracked MH370 as well? Any word from these guys yet?

Malaysia may well have asked the Indonesian military, but the media doesn't appear to have asked. According to this January blog post, Indonesia has several primary radar installations in northern Sumatra.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:11 pm

Quoting nupogodi (Reply 232):

I agree, but he was flying the same plane   I would fly a different plane at home just like I do HW at work SW at home.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:12 pm

Quoting s5daw (Reply 221):
SOme people on the forum mentioned 9M-MRO didn't have SATCOM antenna.

Well they are wrong.
MH B777 have flat plate satcom antenna fixed on each side of the fuselage around door 3.
They do not have a huge bubble on the roof.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:15 pm

TINKER - TAILOR - SOLDIER - SPY!

All very complicated!

Maybe it's very simple after all!

Let us consider that first word "tinker" The captain is known to tinker with model aircraft and also a grand six screen flight simulator.

Has anyone who ever tinkered with flight-sim not done something less than legit just to see the consequences?

The captain takes "selfies" Someone suggested he would view anyone who takes selfies as suspect. You make up your own mind!

Could the captain or the FO whom he had chats with transfer some move from the sim to main board - MH370

That would have to wait until established in the cruise, being fairly fresh and possibly when one of them was out of site.

Professional pilots don't behave like that says you?

A couple of years ago or less there was a thread on this site about a three-man crew on a multi over I think Western US and a discussion arose

started I think by the FE as to how long the onboard computers would take to compensate if he pulled a couple of circuit breakers.

He received the OK from the left hand seat and proceeded. IIRC he didn't just pop a few bulbs - he produced two massive engine surges which took too long for comfort to return to normal.

I wish someone could locate the thread if it is still there because I have tried and failed.

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Just my two cents...no assertions meant.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:15 pm

Quoting OV735 (Reply 234):
I've met pilots personally who are avid simulator enthusiasts.

There's at least one here.  

If he'd had sinister motives, he probably wouldn't have shown his simulator setup on social media.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:15 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):
Does the captain hold the vital clue to this.

Why would a 777 captain have a simulator of the same plane at home?

It does not make sense

Well, i'm a real life pilot but i still enjoy "playing" Flight Simulator at home from time to time...
I have a lot of friends which are also pilots and hardcore flightsimmers !

Nothing weird for me.

Aviation is a passion. Is it ok if i enjoy spotting too or is it weird ?
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:16 pm

Quoting uta999 (Reply 225):

What's wrong with that? My dad was a MH B747-400 Captain and he too has a B747 flight sim at home, although not as large as the one built by Captain Zaharie. There's nothing strange about pilots having their own homemade simulators.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:20 pm

Quoting zeke (Reply 226):
The Strait of Malacca has a lot of surveillance

Given the history between Malaysia and Indonesia, I'm not surprised, although I've no idea what the situation is now.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:22 pm

Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:23 pm

Quoting cbrboy (Reply 236):
Malaysia may well have asked the Indonesian military, but the media doesn't appear to have asked. According to this January blog post, Indonesia has several primary radar installations in northern Sumatra.

I think it's pretty certain they have, and drawn a blank, since they're concentrating their efforts in the NW approaches to the Malacca strait. Cheers for the link BTW.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:25 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 244):
Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.

Ehhhh... if it is true... WOW...


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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:27 pm

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 246):

Nothing on the reuters side. Only that it is tracked to the malacca channel...
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:27 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 244):
Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.

I think that just refers to 'last tracked position' ... not a finding of the plane.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:27 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 244):
Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.

Sure? Or are they referring to it's radar appearance in the area at the night of the incident?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:28 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 244):
Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.

Same here in Finland, but it probably is only a mistranslation of the following Reuters quote:

Quote:
Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.


[Edited 2014-03-11 06:29:01]
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:28 pm

Quoting 456 (Reply 247):

Then I have an axe to grind with mila for using the words "spotted the aircraft"... 


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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:29 pm

Quoting theaviator380 (Reply 189):

If they went West over Malaysia towards Malacca, how come outward traffic from KUL didn't notice MS370 in their vicinity?

Never mind that, what were the air defence chaps doing if that's the case?!
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:29 pm

Quoting mila (Reply 244):
Swedish media now refers to Reuters the the military have spotted the aircraft in the Malacka channel.

And look what Crikey Plane Talking has posted: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...uthorities-visit-crash-site-today/
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:29 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 243):
Given the history between Malaysia and Indonesia, I'm not surprised, although I've no idea what the situation is now.

The extra surveillance of the Straits of Malacca may also have something to do with dealing with the level of piracy in that area.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:31 pm

One has to wonder if they only found out about the aircraft heading in the direction of Kota Bahru and descending from there across Malaysia in the direction of the Malacca Strait within the last 12 hours.... Hard to believe that they let the Vietnamese waste all those SAR resources for days - but on the other hand also hard to beleive that the radar trails was only discovered now.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:37 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 253):
And look what Crikey Plane Talking has posted: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...uthorities-visit-crash-site-today/

Some speculation and some (barely hidden) allegations.... Well.   
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Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos