OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

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OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:50 am

3M EYW-RSW MAY 2.0>1.5
3M FLL-BIM MAY 1.0>0.9
3M FLL-FPO MAY 3>2.0
3M MCO-PNS APR 1.7>1.1
3M MCO-TLH APR 1.5>0.7 MAY 1.5>0.7
3M PBI-ELH MAY 0.6>0.5

*3P FLL-AUA APR 0.1>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.2>0

9K ACK-BOS OCT 12>9 NOV 15>6
9K ACK-EWB OCT 6>3 NOV 10>1.0
9K ACK-HYA OCT 17>18 NOV 15>17
9K ACK-MVY NOV 2.0>3
9K BHB-BOS OCT 1.9>3 NOV 0>3
9K BOS-HYA NOV 3>1.7
9K BOS-MVY OCT 11>7 NOV 15>5
9K BOS-PVC OCT 8>5 NOV 13>4
9K EWB-MVY NOV 5>3
9K HPN-MVY NOV 0.3>0.1
9K HYA-MVY OCT 3>1.3 NOV 3>0

AA DFW-AGU JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
AA DFW-AMA JUL 7>8 AUG 7>8 SEP 7>8 OCT 7>8 NOV 7>8
AA DFW-CRP JUL 9>8 AUG 9>8 SEP 9>8 OCT 9>8 NOV 9>8
AA DFW-EZE JUN 1.0>0.9 AUG 1.0>0.9 SEP 1.0>0.8
AA DFW-HOU JUN 8>7 JUL 9>7 AUG 9>7 SEP 9>7 OCT 9>7 NOV 9>7
AA DFW-PNS JUL 6>5 AUG 6>5 SEP 6>5 OCT 6>5 NOV 6>5
AA JFK-SJU MAY 2>1.9
AA LAX-DFW JUN 19>17 JUL 19>17 AUG 19>17 SEP 19>17 OCT 19>17 NOV 19>17
*AA LAX-PHX JUN 4>1.0 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0 NOV 4>1.0
AA LAX-SJD JUN 1.7>1.9 JUL 1.7>2 AUG 1.7>1.9
AA MIA-ATL JUL 8>7
*AA MIA-CLT JUN 5>0 JUL 5>0 AUG 5>0 SEP 5>0 OCT 5>0 NOV 5>0
AA MIA-CZM JUL 0.7>0.5 AUG 0.7>0.6 SEP 0.7>0.5 OCT 0.7>0.6
AA MIA-EYW JUL 6>5 AUG 6>5 SEP 6>5 OCT 6>5 NOV 6>5
AA MIA-FDF JUL 0.1>0.3
*AA ORD-CLT JUN 6>0 JUL 6>0 AUG 6>0 SEP 6>0 OCT 6>0 NOV 6>0
AA ORD-MIA JUL 11>10 AUG 11>10 SEP 9>8 OCT 9>8 NOV 9>8
AA ORD-TVC JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3

AC CLE-YYZ JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4

AC IAH-YYZ MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4
AC ORD-YYZ JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AC TPA-YYZ JUL 1.0>1.7 AUG 1.0>1.7

AF ORD-CDG SEP 0.9>1.0

*AM LAX-CUN MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2
AM LAX-LAP MAY 0.1>0 NOV 0.5>0
AM SFO-BJX MAY 0.2>0.3 JUN 0.1>0.3 JUL 0.2>0.3 AUG 0.1>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.2>0.3 NOV 0.1>0.3
AM SFO-MLM APR 0.5>0.4 MAY 0.5>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.5>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.4 OCT 0.6>0.5 NOV 0.6>0.4

DL response to 2 flights in Winter?
*AS SEA-ANC JUN 18>19 JUL 18>19 SEP 17>18 OCT 12>14 NOV 12>14

AV EWR-SAL APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.8 OCT 1.0>0.6
AV JFK-SAL MAY 1.5>2 JUN 1.6>2 JUL 1.7>2 AUG 1.7>2 SEP 1.7>2 OCT 1.7>2.0

*B6 BDL-DCA JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>1.6
*B6 CHS-DCA JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>1.6
*B6 DCA-NAS JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.8
*B6 DCA-TPA JUL 1.0>2.0 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2 OCT 0.8>1.6
B6 LGB-SLC JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3

BA TPA-LGW NOV 1.3>1.0

CZ JFK-CAN OCT 0.5>0.6 NOV 0>0.6

DL ATL-MOB OCT 8>7 NOV 8>7
DL ATL-PDX OCT 3>4
DL ATL-TLH OCT 7>6 NOV 7>6
DL ATL-TPA SEP 12>15 OCT 12>15 NOV 12>15
DL DTW-APN APR 0>0.7
Odd with the hub closing
*DL DTW-CLE JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3
*DL DTW-YQB JUN 0.7>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
DL HIB-MSP JUN 1.0>1.7 JUL 1.0>1.7 AUG 1.0>1.7 SEP 1.0>1.7 OCT 1.0>1.7 NOV 1.0>1.7
DL JFK-BOS JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
DL JFK-YQB JUN 1.7>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3 SEP 0.1>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3
DL LAX-LAS NOV 8>7
DL LAX-OAK NOV 8>7
DL LGA-BOS JUL 14>13
DL SEA-YVR NOV 5>4
DL SLC-TWF MAY 4>5

DY JFK-ARN APR 0.0>0.4

*F9 ORD-HUX MAY 0.2>0 JUN 0.1>0 JUL 0.1>0

G4 ABE-MYR SEP 0.3>0.2
G4 ABE-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 ABE-SFB AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 ATW-AZA AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1 OCT 0.3>0.1 NOV 0.3>0.2
G4 ATW-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AVL-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.4 NOV 0.6>0.4
G4 AVL-SFB OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AVP-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-BLI SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-BZN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-DLH AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-FAR SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-FWA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-HNL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-MSO SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 AZA-PSC SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 AZA-RST AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-STC SEP 0.3>0.1 OCT 0.3>0.1 NOV 0.3>0.2
G4 BIL-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 BIS-LAS SEP 0.3>0.2
G4 BIS-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLI-LAX SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 BLI-OAK SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 BLI-PSP SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 BLI-SAN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLV-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CHA-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CKB-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 COS-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 CPR-LAS AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 DSM-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 ELM-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 EUG-HNL AUG 0.2>0.1
G4 EUG-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 EUG-OAK SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 FAR-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 FAR-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FAR-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FAT-HNL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FAT-LAS SEP 0.8>0.6 OCT 0.9>0.6 NOV 0.9>0.6
G4 FCA-OAK SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-GSP SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 FLL-PBG SEP 0.7>0.3 OCT 0.7>0.3 NOV 0.8>0.3
G4 FSD-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 FSD-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FSD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FWA-MYR SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 GFK-LAS AUG 0.5>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 GFK-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 GJT-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 GSO-SFB AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 GSP-PIE NOV 0.6>0.4
G4 HGR-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 HNL-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 HNL-LAX AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.8>0.4 OCT 0.9>0.5 NOV 0.9>0.4
G4 HNL-SCK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 HTS-MYR AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.2
G4 HTS-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 HTS-SFB AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 IAG-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IAG-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 ICT-LAS AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 ICT-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 IDA-LAX SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 IDA-OAK SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 ISP-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAN-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-LRD AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.8>0.3 OCT 0.9>0.3 NOV 0.9>0.3
G4 LAS-PSC SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAS-SCK SEP 1.5>1.0 OCT 1.6>1.0 NOV 1.6>1.0
G4 LAS-SHV AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAS-SMX SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 LAX-MFR AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 LAX-MSO SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-PSC SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-SGF SEP 0.4>0.1
G4 LAX-XNA SEP 0.4>0.1
G4 LCK-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 LEX-PGD SEP 0.7>0.4 OCT 0.7>0.4 NOV 0.7>0.4
G4 LEX-SFB AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 LIT-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LRD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MDT-SFB AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 MFE-SFB AUG 0.6>0.2
G4 MLI-PIE AUG 0.3>0.2
G4 MLI-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MSO-OAK SEP 0.4>0.1
G4 MYR-YNG AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.1
G4 OKC-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OWB-SFB SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PBG-PIE AUG 0.4>0.2
G4 PBG-SFB AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.9>0.3 OCT 0.8>0.3 NOV 0.9>0.3
G4 PGD-RFD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-SBN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-SGF AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-SPI AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-YNG AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PHF-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIA-PIE SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-ROA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-SGF SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-TYS NOV 0.6>0.4
G4 PSM-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-SGF SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 SFB-SHV AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-SPI AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-TOL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-TUL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-TYS AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 SFB-XNA AUG 0.5>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3

*HA HNL-SJC JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
HA LAX-OGG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2

HU ORD-PEK APR 0.6>0.4 MAY 0.6>0.5 JUN 0.6>0.4

K5 PDT-PDX JUN 1.7>4 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>4 SEP 1.7>4 OCT 1.7>4 NOV 1.7>4

NK FLL-MGA MAY 0.5>0.6 JUN 0.4>0.6 JUL 0.4>0.6 AUG 0.4>0.5
NK FLL-SAL MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3

RJ JFK-AMM MAY 0.7>0.6 JUL 0.7>0.6

UA DEN-DTW JUL 1.0>2
UA DEN-FCA JUL 4>5
UA DEN-IDA JUL 4>5
*UA DEN-JMS JUN 0>1.4 JUL 0>1.6 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.6 OCT 0>1.6 NOV 0>1.5
UA DEN-MSO JUL 5>6
UA DEN-MTJ SEP 1.7>4
UA DEN-RAP JUL 6>7
*UA DVL-JMS JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.8
UA EWR-MIA JUN 3>4
UA IAD-SJU SEP 0.4>0.3
UA IAH-ACA AUG 0.6>0.5 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.7>0.2
UA IAH-LBB JUN 3>4
UA IAH-SJO SEP 3>2
UA IAH-ZIH SEP 0.2>0.1 OCT 0.5>0.2
*UA IAH-ZLO SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.2>0.0
UA LAX-ABQ JUN 1.9>1.0
UA LAX-EWR JUN 12>14
UA LAX-OKC JUN 1.9>1.0
UA LAX-PDX JUN 3>2
*UA LAX-PVR SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.1>0
UA LAX-SAN JUN 13>11
UA LAX-SEA JUN 3>2
UA LAX-TUS JUN 2>1.1
UA ORD-DCA JUN 13>14
UA ORD-LGA JUN 13>14
UA SFO-MFR JUN 7>5
UA SFO-PDX JUN 11>10
UA SFO-PSC JUN 2>1.1 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.4
UA SFO-PSP JUN 1.7>3
UA SFO-RNO JUN 5>6
UA SFO-SBA JUL 10>9 AUG 10>9 SEP 10>9 OCT 10>9 NOV 10>9

UP MCO-NAS JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3

*US CLT-OKC JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
*US CLT-TUL JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2
US DCA-HHH JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.2
*US PHL-CRW JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.9 NOV 0>0.8
*US PHL-LEX JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3
*US PHL-MEM JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3

*VB IAH-MTY SEP 0.7>0.8 NOV 0.7>0


WP HNL-LIH JUN 4>6 JUL 4>6 AUG 4>6 SEP 4>6 OCT 4>6 NOV 4>6
WP HNL-OGG APR 6>8 MAY 6>8 JUN 4>8 JUL 4>8 AUG 4>8 SEP 4>8 OCT 4>8 NOV 4>8

WS PHX-YYZ NOV 0>1.0

*YV HNL-MKK APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0

YOY compare with Wn/FL combined
WN ABQ-LAS AUG 6>5
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:56 am

WN ABQ-LAX AUG 4>3
WN ABQ-PHX AUG 8>7 SEP 8>7 OCT 8>7
WN ABQ-SAN SEP 3>2
WN ABQ-SEA AUG 2>1.3 SEP 1.9>1.0
WN AMA-DAL AUG 6>5 SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN ATL-AUA AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.1 OCT 0.5>0.1
WN ATL-BDL AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3
WN ATL-BOS AUG 6>5
WN ATL-BWI AUG 9>8
WN ATL-CAK AUG 5>3 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN ATL-CUN AUG 3>1.4 SEP 3>1.1 OCT 1.7>1.1
WN ATL-DAY AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0
WN ATL-DEN SEP 4>5
WN ATL-FLL AUG 8>7 SEP 8>6 OCT 7>6
WN ATL-HOU OCT 8>7
WN ATL-MBJ SEP 0.9>1.0
WN ATL-MCO AUG 10>8 SEP 10>8
WN ATL-MDW AUG 10>8 SEP 10>8 OCT 10>8
WN ATL-MKE AUG 5>4 SEP 5>3 OCT 5>3
WN ATL-NAS AUG 1.0>0.3 SEP 0.7>0.1 OCT 0.7>0.1
WN ATL-OKC AUG 0>2.0 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2.0
WN ATL-ORF AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0
WN ATL-PIT OCT 4>3
WN ATL-PUJ AUG 1.3>1.4
WN ATL-SAN AUG 0>1.3 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN ATL-SDF AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0
WN ATL-SEA AUG 1.0>0.3 SEP 0.9>0
WN ATL-SJU AUG 1.5>1.0
WN AUS-BWI AUG 3>1.9 OCT 3>1.9
WN AUS-CUN AUG 0.5>0.2 SEP 0.5>0 OCT 0.4>0
WN AUS-HOU AUG 5>4 SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN AUS-MCO AUG 2>1.4
WN AUS-MSY AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN BDL-BWI AUG 8>7 SEP 8>7 OCT 8>7
WN BDL-MCO AUG 3>4
WN BKG-DAL AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN BKG-HOU AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN BKG-MDW AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 1.9>0
WN BNA-CLE AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.9>3
WN BNA-GSP AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN BNA-LGA AUG 2>3 SEP 2>3 OCT 2>3
WN BNA-ORF AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN BNA-PIT AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN BNA-PNS AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2
WN BNA-RDU AUG 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN BNA-SEA OCT 0>1.0
WN BNA-TPA OCT 4>3
WN BOS-BWI AUG 11>9 SEP 10>9 OCT 10>9
WN BOS-CAK AUG 1.9>1.2 SEP 1.8>1.0
WN BOS-MKE AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2.0
WN BUF-BWI AUG 7>6 OCT 7>6
WN BUF-MCO OCT 4>2.0
WN BUF-TPA AUG 3>1.1
WN BUR-LAS AUG 11>10 OCT 9>10
WN BUR-OAK AUG 13>12 SEP 13>12
WN BUR-PHX AUG 7>6
WN BUR-SJC AUG 8>7
WN BUR-SMF AUG 8>7
WN BWI-AUA AUG 0.7>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.1 OCT 0.6>0.1
WN BWI-CHS AUG 3>4
WN BWI-CUN AUG 2>1.5 SEP 1.6>1.3 OCT 1.7>1.3
WN BWI-DTW AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN BWI-ECP AUG 1.4>0.4 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN BWI-GRR SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
WN BWI-GSP AUG 1.8>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0
WN BWI-LAX OCT 1.0>1.8
WN BWI-MBJ AUG 1.6>1.4 SEP 1.4>1.1 OCT 1.5>1.1
WN BWI-MCO OCT 9>8
WN BWI-MSY AUG 4>3 OCT 3>2
WN BWI-NAS SEP 0.8>1.0 OCT 0.7>1.0
WN BWI-ORF AUG 5>4 SEP 4>3
WN BWI-PDX AUG 0>1.0
WN BWI-PIT AUG 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN BWI-PUJ SEP 0.7>1.0 OCT 0.7>1.0
WN BWI-PWM AUG 3>4
WN BWI-RSW OCT 3>2
WN BWI-SAT OCT 3>2.0
WN BWI-SJU AUG 3>1.4 OCT 2>1.1
WN BWI-STL AUG 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN BWI-TPA OCT 7>6
WN CAK-LGA OCT 1.9>3
WN CAK-MCO AUG 3>1.5 SEP 2.0>1.1 OCT 2>1.1
WN CLE-LAS OCT 0>1.0
WN CLE-MDW OCT 5>6
WN CMH-MDW OCT 6>7
WN CMH-RSW AUG 0.4>1.1 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN CRP-HOU AUG 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN DAL-HOU AUG 23>22 SEP 23>22 OCT 23>22
WN DAL-HRL AUG 1.9>0 SEP 1.8>0 OCT 2>0
WN DAL-LBB AUG 6>5
WN DAL-LIT OCT 5>4
WN DAL-OKC SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN DAL-STL OCT 8>9
WN DAL-TUL AUG 6>4 SEP 6>4 OCT 5>4
WN DCA-MCI AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN DEN-CUN AUG 0.4>0.5 OCT 0.3>0.9
WN DEN-LAS AUG 9>8 OCT 9>8
WN DEN-MDW OCT 8>9
WN DEN-PVD AUG 1.0>0.1 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN DEN-RDU SEP 1.0>1.8 OCT 1.0>1.8
WN DEN-SJD AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1 OCT 0.3>0.1
WN DSM-LAS AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN ELP-PHX OCT 6>5
WN EWR-MDW SEP 6>5 OCT 6>5
WN EYW-MCO AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN EYW-MSY AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN EYW-TPA AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN FLL-MDW AUG 4>3
WN FLL-MKE AUG 1.0>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.1 OCT 1.0>0.1
WN FLL-PHL AUG 1.2>0.6 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0
WN FLL-PIT AUG 1.3>0.6 OCT 1.0>0
WN FLL-SJU AUG 1.9>1.3 OCT 2>1.0
WN FNT-TPA AUG 1.0>0.1 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN GEG-MDW AUG 1.0>0.3
WN GRR-MCO AUG 1.0>0.4 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN HOU-HRL AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5
WN HOU-JAN AUG 1.9>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.9>0
WN HOU-JAX AUG 1.8>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0 OCT 1.7>1.0
WN HOU-LGA AUG 2>4 SEP 2>4 OCT 2>4
WN HOU-MAF AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4
WN HOU-MEM AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN HOU-PNS AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN HOU-SAT AUG 5>4 SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN HOU-TPA OCT 4>3
WN HRL-SAT AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN IAD-MDW AUG 6>5 SEP 6>5 OCT 6>5
WN IND-MCO SEP 3>2 OCT 4>3
WN IND-PHX OCT 2.0>1.0
WN IND-RSW OCT 2>1.0
WN JAN-MCO AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN JAN-MDW AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN JAX-LAS OCT 1.0>0
WN JAX-ORF AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.9>0 OCT 0.9>0
WN LAS-LAX AUG 12>11 OCT 12>11
WN LAS-MDW OCT 10>9
WN LAS-MHT AUG 0.3>0.1
WN LAS-SNA SEP 8>7
WN LAX-MSY AUG 1.0>1.8 SEP 1.0>1.7 OCT 1.0>1.7
WN LAX-OAK AUG 12>13 SEP 12>13 OCT 12>13
WN LAX-SFO AUG 11>10 OCT 11>10
WN LAX-SMF OCT 7>8
WN LGA-MDW AUG 6>8 SEP 6>8 OCT 6>8
WN LGA-STL AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.9>3
WN MCI-MDW OCT 10>9
WN MCI-SEA SEP 1.0>0.0 OCT 1.0>0
WN MCI-STL AUG 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN MCO-AUA AUG 0.3>0.8 SEP 0.3>1.0 OCT 0.3>1.0
WN MCO-MBJ SEP 0.6>1.0 OCT 0.5>1.0
WN MCO-MDW OCT 7>8
WN MCO-MHT OCT 3>2.0
WN MCO-MSP OCT 1.2>0
WN MCO-MSY OCT 4>3
WN MCO-ORF AUG 2>1.2 SEP 1.9>1.1
WN MCO-PHL AUG 6>5 SEP 5>4
WN MCO-SAN AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN MCO-SDF OCT 2>1.0
WN MCO-SJU AUG 3>4
WN MDW-MSP OCT 7>8
WN MDW-OAK OCT 3>4
WN MDW-OMA OCT 6>5
WN MDW-ORF OCT 1.1>2
WN MDW-PHX OCT 6>7
WN MDW-RNO OCT 0>1.0
WN MDW-RSW OCT 4>3
WN MDW-SDF OCT 5>4
WN MDW-SLC SEP 2.0>3 OCT 1.9>3
WN MDW-STL AUG 10>9 SEP 10>8
WN MDW-TPA OCT 5>3
WN MDW-TUS AUG 1.8>1.3 SEP 1.6>1.0
WN MEM-TPA AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN MKE-MSP SEP 3>1.9 OCT 3>1.9
WN MKE-MSY AUG 1.0>0.2 SEP 1.0>0.1 OCT 1.0>0.1
WN MKE-TPA AUG 1.9>1.3
WN MSY-SAN AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
WN MSY-STL AUG 1.7>1.2 SEP 1.7>1.0 OCT 1.8>1.0
WN MSY-TPA AUG 4>3 OCT 4>3
WN OAK-ONT AUG 8>7
WN OAK-PHX OCT 5>6
WN OAK-SEA OCT 6>7
WN OAK-SLC OCT 3>4
WN OMA-PHX AUG 1.6>1.1 SEP 1.8>1.0 OCT 2>1.0
WN ONT-SJC AUG 5>4 OCT 5>4
WN PDX-RNO AUG 2>0 SEP 2.0>0 OCT 1.8>0
WN PDX-SAN AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2
WN PDX-SLC AUG 1.9>0.5 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0
WN PDX-SMF OCT 5>6
WN PHL-RSW AUG 0.3>0.1
WN PHL-TPA AUG 1.6>1.2
WN PHX-RNO AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.9 OCT 3>1.8
WN PHX-SEA OCT 3>4
WN PHX-SLC OCT 7>6
WN PIT-RSW OCT 1.5>1.0
WN RNO-SEA AUG 1.9>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN ROC-TPA AUG 1.0>0.3 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
WN SAN-SEA AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3
WN SAN-SFO AUG 9>8
WN SAN-SMF OCT 10>9
WN SAT-CUN AUG 0.6>0.2 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
WN SDF-TPA OCT 1.8>1.0
WN SEA-SJC OCT 1.8>3
WN SEA-SLC AUG 3>0.6 SEP 3>0 OCT 1.8>0
WN SEA-STL AUG 1.0>0.3 SEP 0.9>0
WN SFO-SNA AUG 7>6 SEP 7>6 OCT 7>6
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:02 am

ZK DEN-TEX APR 1.5>0.5 MAY 1.3>0
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:45 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 2):
ZK DEN-TEX APR 1.5>0.5 MAY 1.3>0

It looks like ZK's LAX-IGM-TEX leg is also gone in June. Is Telluride losing all air service??


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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:13 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA DFW-HOU JUN 8>7 JUL 9>7 AUG 9>7 SEP 9>7 OCT 9>7 NOV 9>7

are they upgauging any aircraft or just cutting freqs?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*UA IAH-ZLO SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.2>0.0

The UA cuts in Mexico keep coming...not surprised however. How hard has Manzanillo been hit by narco-violence?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:39 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*HA HNL-SJC JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0
HA LAX-OGG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2

I might add that the SJC flying actually starts in mid May and is a welcomed return to the network and will be on the 767 again. Also, the OGG-LAX flight that was previously announced as 330 year round starting in July is now starting early. It will start May 2nd on the 767 and then switch to the 330 on June 5. The other OGG-LAX frequency looks to be the seasonal red-eye and will be on the 767.

Added link to the press release:

http://investor.hawaiianairlines.com...-newsArticle&ID=1908424&highlight=

[Edited 2014-03-12 13:18:36]
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:58 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 AZA-BLI SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 BLI-LAX SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3 NOV 0.6>0.3
G4 BLI-OAK SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6 NOV 1.0>0.6
G4 BLI-PSP SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3 NOV 0.4>0.3
G4 BLI-SAN AUG 0.3>0.1

I find this interesting. With these announced changes thru late summer and fall and heading for winter, everything from BLI to the sunny Southwest destinations is being decreased in frequency. Maybe this is all normal seasonal adjustment but it seems a bit odd.

And as for SAN-BLI, the service ended last year in August and just re-started last month. The intriguing thing to me is that there still is no nonstop SAN-YVR service so I would think that might increase the interest in BLI-SAN... (I assume the flight will again be cancelled this winter...)

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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:08 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA LAX-EWR JUN 12>14

Seriously? Im not complaining i just bought $150 and $179 each ways on EWR-LAX which no way can cover their costs, but they really want to give virgin america as hard a time as possible. I dont even think they can fill all the seats at these prices my last EWR-SFO flight was almost empty like whole rows empty and i think i again paid $179 also, so easy and cheap to become an elite if you live in EWR/SFO or LAX these days so many miles for such a low price.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:22 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA DEN-DTW JUL 1.0>2
UA DEN-FCA JUL 4>5
UA DEN-IDA JUL 4>5
*UA DEN-JMS JUN 0>1.4 JUL 0>1.6 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.6 OCT 0>1.6 NOV 0>1.5
UA DEN-MSO JUL 5>6
UA DEN-MTJ SEP 1.7>4
UA DEN-RAP JUL 6>7

Looks as if UA is giving DEN some seasonal love...... and then GFK couldn't work with DEN, but nearby JMS will work with a couple of dailies on some days?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*F9 ORD-HUX MAY 0.2>0 JUN 0.1>0 JUL 0.1>0

and Apple/F9 are pulling out of HUX?

Quoting enilria (Reply 2):
ZK DEN-TEX APR 1.5>0.5 MAY 1.3>0

and here I thought that TEX was one of ZK's better non-EAS routes? Just not enough pilots?

 
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:34 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 6):
I find this interesting. With these announced changes thru late summer and fall and heading for winter, everything from BLI to the sunny Southwest destinations is being decreased in frequency. Maybe this is all normal seasonal adjustment but it seems a bit odd.

And as for SAN-BLI, the service ended last year in August and just re-started last month. The intriguing thing to me is that there still is no nonstop SAN-YVR service so I would think that might increase the interest in BLI-SAN... (I assume the flight will again be cancelled this winter...)

I'm seeing pretty normal G4 adjustments there. Travel drops off for a couple of months on many Allegiant routes once school starts back up in August/September. Frequencies will increase in Oct/Nov to match the increased demand. The same pattern repeats all over their system, not just at BLI.

On SAN-BLI, it is a seasonal route as noted in this Bellingham article.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:06 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN FLL-PIT AUG 1.3>0.6 OCT 1.0>0

Its really amazing the extent to which WN dismantled FL's network. 444 PDEW between PIT and southeast Florida, yet the only service will be two 50 seat RJs to MIA.

Spirit at LBE won that one.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:09 pm

*YV HNL-MKK APR 0/1.0 MAY 0/1.0 JUN 0/1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0/1.0 SEP 0/1.0 OCT 0/1.0 NOV 0/1.0

Is this a misprint or are they going to use their 200's on this? They can barely fly the schedule they have now without a breakdown.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:12 pm

Quoting hiloboy1 (Reply 11):

*YV HNL-MKK APR 0/1.0 MAY 0/1.0 JUN 0/1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0/1.0 SEP 0/1.0 OCT 0/1.0 NOV 0/1.0

Is this a misprint or are they going to use their 200's on this? They can barely fly the schedule they have now without a breakdown.

I guess they trying to get into the market just as Island Air pulls out and 'Ohana starts. This should be an interesting one to watch.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:36 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*UA DEN-JMS JUN 0>1.4 JUL 0>1.6 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.6 OCT 0>1.6 NOV 0>1.5
Quoting point2point (Reply 8):
Looks as if UA is giving DEN some seasonal love...... and then GFK couldn't work with DEN, but nearby JMS will work with a couple of dailies on some days?

My initial thought as well... but the big difference here is that JMS + DVL are both EAS cities, whereas GFK was not.

Here's Skywest's press release..

http://www.skywest.com/assets/Upload...sReleases/JMSDVLFlights3.11.14.pdf

To me, seems like an unnecessary example of an EAS city. JMS is about 90 minutes driving to both BIS and FAR, and DVL is about the same to both GFK and MOT.

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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:07 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN ATL-DAY AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0 OCT 3>0

Wow - does that leave DAY with just 2 BWI, 1 MCO, and 1 DEN? That is a ton of capacity to cut. Is anything going to make up for it, or is it just a double whammy of the ATL cutbacks and the poor economy in the lower midwest?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:27 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA LAX-PHX JUN 4>1.0 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0 NOV 4>1.0

ooook wtf is this? Are these flights just switching over to US, or being slashed completely?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
G4 AZA-HNL AUG 0.3>0.1

Man...... what the heck is going on here with AZA and HNL? I haven't heard any news on this at all recently.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:49 pm

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 7):
Seriously? Im not complaining i just bought $150 and $179 each ways on EWR-LAX which no way can cover their costs, but they really want to give virgin america as hard a time as possible. I dont even think they can fill all the seats at these prices my last EWR-SFO flight was almost empty like whole rows empty and i think i again paid $179 also, so easy and cheap to become an elite if you live in EWR/SFO or LAX these days so many miles for such a low price.

But F on many of those flights are full of F & YBM fares....not upgrades. I flew EWR-LAX routinely from Jun-Nov last year at various times on Sun/Mon & Thurs/Fri. and even as a 1K it was an extremely hard upgrade I often had to use upgrade certs or miles.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:00 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA LAX-PHX JUN 4>1.0 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0 NOV 4>1.0

Clearly they are shifting the flying to US, which is to be expected. . . My only question is why do they even have one flight? Shouldn't they just have US do all the flying. I doubt one daily CRJ2 for AA will make a difference in the grand scheme of things.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:16 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
9K ACK-BOS OCT 12>9 NOV 15>6
9K ACK-EWB OCT 6>3 NOV 10>1.0
9K ACK-HYA OCT 17>18 NOV 15>17
9K ACK-MVY NOV 2.0>3
9K BHB-BOS OCT 1.9>3 NOV 0>3
9K BOS-HYA NOV 3>1.7
9K BOS-MVY OCT 11>7 NOV 15>5
9K BOS-PVC OCT 8>5 NOV 13>4
9K EWB-MVY NOV 5>3
9K HPN-MVY NOV 0.3>0.1
9K HYA-MVY OCT 3>1.3 NOV 3>0

Wow! Cape Air is really cutting frequencies, especially at BOS. Dropping 9x daily on ACK-BOS, 10x on BOS-MVY, and cutting HYA-MVY. Pilot shortage must be hitting them hard.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:20 pm

Quoting PITrules (Reply 10):
444 PDEW between PIT and southeast Florida, yet the only service will be two 50 seat RJs to MIA.

I also noticed WN pulling this flight, and several comparable ones at PHL, as well. Perhaps we'll see B6 jump in to PIT-FLL?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:27 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 15):
Man...... what the heck is going on here with AZA and HNL? I haven't heard any news on this at all recently.

Allegiant made most routes to Hawaii seasonal. LAS and LAX are their only year-rounds to Hawaii now.

AZA-HNL, like Fresno, Stockton and Eugene will all seasonally end in mid-August this year.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:34 am

Quoting chrisjake (Reply 3):
It looks like ZK's LAX-IGM-TEX leg is also gone in June. Is Telluride losing all air service??

TEX service ends 4/7 but then returns 6/5 -- nothing between the ski season wind-down and the summer vacation season.

The Telluride stop en route from Denver to Kingman and LAX is replaced with Page, DEN-PGA-IGM-LAX.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:52 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA DEN-IDA JUL 4>5
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA DEN-MSO JUL 5>6

UA adding additional frequency in response to F9 new service. I still think F9 has the advantage by offering larger jet service over a regional jet.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN BNA-SEA OCT 0>1.0

Do my eyes decevie me or wishful thinking. WN returning BNA-SEA to year around. It was a once daily for the longest time and then it went seasonal in October or November and came back in the Spring. I loved that flight it kept me away from DFW and ORD.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:25 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 2):
ZK DEN-TEX APR 1.5>0.5 MAY 1.3>0

and here I thought that TEX was one of ZK's better non-EAS routes? Just not enough pilots?

 

Its the mud season Telluride is dead from mid april to june. The more affluent residents especially leave in this time. I bet you they would be flying empty planes anyway.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:11 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 6):

It seems like G4 publishes a purposely inflated future schedule and the lets the air out.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 7):

I assume they are encouraging VX to drop EWR when LGA starts. Pretty overt signaling.

Quoting hiloboy1 (Reply 11):

It's what they filed. I'm amazed Go still exists.

Quoting TW870 (Reply 14):

The Air Tran network continues being obliterated. Very questionable merger.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 15):

I don't see any more US flights. This is what happens when competition goes away.

Quoting oc2dc (Reply 18):

At most I expect US to upsize AC size.

Quoting airplanedaj (Reply 19):

I think that's a seasonal move. Looks normal to me.

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 23):

I'll be shocked if BNA-SEA runs in Jan.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:43 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
B6 BDL-DCA JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>1.6
*B6 CHS-DCA JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>1.6
*B6 DCA-NAS JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.9 OCT 0>0.8
*B6 DCA-TPA JUL 1.0>2.0 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2 OCT 0.8>1.6

So now we know where some of those shiny new slots are going.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA ORD-DCA JUN 13>14

And where is this slot coming from? No other cuts.


Surprised that other new DCA frequencies/routes haven't appeared here yet en masse. Both WN and B6 got a bunch. And where is that little VX DCA-JFK slot?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:35 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MCI-SEA SEP 1.0>0.0 OCT 1.0>0

I guess AS gave WN a run for its money? Somewhat shocking that WN will be dropping the route?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:47 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Odd with the hub closing
*DL DTW-CLE JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3

This is possibly an error. Before UA's announcement, DL's schedules showed a reduction from 4 to 3; afterward DL put the fourth flight back on delta.com. Their OAG listing may be slow to catch up.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:13 am

Quoting tyler81190 (Reply 26):
I guess AS gave WN a run for its money? Somewhat shocking that WN will be dropping the route?

AS is doing well on the route, but I think its too small of a market for 2 carriers both flying mainline.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:35 am

Quoting tyler81190 (Reply 26):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):WN MCI-SEA SEP 1.0>0.0 OCT 1.0>0
I guess AS gave WN a run for its money? Somewhat shocking that WN will be dropping the route?

Southwest has only run MCI-SEA during the warmer months for quite a few years now. It does look like they're ending the season earlier than last year.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:13 am

No surprise that PMAA flights RJ service to PMUS hubs is being dropped without replacement. Mergers result in capacity being removed from the system. Maybe that lone AA coded flight LAX-PHX is for the regional to reposition or it is flown at-risk.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:16 pm

Quoting oc2dc (Reply 17):
Clearly they are shifting the flying to US, which is to be expected. . . My only question is why do they even have one flight? Shouldn't they just have US do all the flying. I doubt one daily CRJ2 for AA will make a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 30):
LAX-PHX is for the regional to reposition or it is flown at-risk.

We're beginning to see the rationalization of the overall network. Maybe the rational for keeping one flight is to allow for easier connections for international paxs to connect to AA instead of going to the US terminal?

Next will we see US exit DFW? I can see DFW-CLT, DFW-PHL going all AA.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:26 pm

WN PHL-RSW AUG 0.3>0.1
WN PHL-TPA AUG 1.6>1.2
WN MCO-PHL AUG 6>5 SEP 5>4
WN FLL-PHL AUG 1.2>0.6 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0

Are these further reductions in PHL or seasonal adjustments or combination of both?
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:46 pm

Quoting seatback (Reply 31):
Next will we see US exit DFW? I can see DFW-CLT, DFW-PHL going all AA.

Without doing all of the addition, I think US may have more capacity than AA on DFW-CLT and about the same on DFW-PHL. DFW-CLT on US is mostly 321, with a 752 thrown in, while AA is mostly M80 with a 319 or two. Neither is like ORD-CLT where US has 321s and AA is Eagle.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:51 pm

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 30):
No surprise that PMAA flights RJ service to PMUS hubs is being dropped without replacement. Mergers result in capacity being removed from the system.

I don't think this is about capacity all that much - in all of these markets (LAX-PHX, CLT-ORD/LGA/MIA), the current AA (Eagle) capacity is minimal compared to the dramatically larger US mainline (and in some cases Express) capacity already present. If anything, I expect these immediate changes to draw down Eagle flying in now-hub-to-hub markets has more to do with simply offering a consistent mainline product on now-higher-volume routes, and the ongoing shortage of Eagle pilots, which is precipitating a drawdown in that flying.

Quoting seatback (Reply 31):
Next will we see US exit DFW? I can see DFW-CLT, DFW-PHL going all AA.

Why would they? In these hub-to-hub markets that are largely all mainline, anyway, the impetus isn't there to get rid of Eagle flying. And now they'll need all the capacity they can get, which is why - if I'm not mistaken - the CLT routes losing Eagle flying soon (ORD, LGA, MIA) will be back filled with mainline adjustments.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 33):
Without doing all of the addition, I think US may have more capacity than AA on DFW-CLT and about the same on DFW-PHL.

On DFW-CLT US definitely has more capacity today than AA. Although in the long-run I think the specific aircraft scheduling today, still largely based on each airline's pre-merger network orientation, is rather meaningless. Within a few years I expect both DFW/ORD-CLT/PHL to be largely the domain of 738s and A321s.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:03 pm

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 27):
This is possibly an error. Before UA's announcement, DL's schedules showed a reduction from 4 to 3; afterward DL put the fourth flight back on delta.com. Their OAG listing may be slow to catch up.

Yeah, not sure since it still shows 4x daily going forward. In fact by June it goes 2x CRJ + 1x CR7 + 1x CR9 so DL is supposedly adding larger aircraft to the route which had historically been all CRJs in recent time.

Just for fun, looking back in Summer 2005, NW operated 8x daily on DTW-CLE:
3x SF3
1x CRJ
1x ARJ
2x D9S
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Quoting airplanedaj (Reply 18):
Wow! Cape Air is really cutting frequencies, especially at BOS. Dropping 9x daily on ACK-BOS, 10x on BOS-MVY, and cutting HYA-MVY. Pilot shortage must be hitting them hard.

Nah, normal seasonal changes for the markets. I'm not sure why they would have published something like BOS-PVC at 13x daily in November given that the traffic drops off a cliff after Labor Day. It's 3-4x daily this time of year. Plus the CNA operation is Part 135 so they're not getting hit by the pilot shortage like ZK or 3M.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 7):
at these prices my last EWR-SFO flight was almost empty like whole rows empty and i think i again paid $179 also, so easy and cheap to become an elite if you live in EWR/SFO or LAX these days so many miles for such a low price.

Only if you're charging $25K/yr on one of the MileagePlus credit cards; UA copied DL with a spend requirement for status starting this year.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA LAX-PHX JUN 4>1.0 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0 NOV 4>1.0
*AA MIA-CLT JUN 5>0 JUL 5>0 AUG 5>0 SEP 5>0 OCT 5>0 NOV 5>0
*AA ORD-CLT JUN 6>0 JUL 6>0 AUG 6>0 SEP 6>0 OCT 6>0 NOV 6>0

Merger-related service cuts. What a shock!
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:14 pm

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 30):
Maybe that lone AA coded flight LAX-PHX is for the regional to reposition or it is flown at-risk.

Or it connects to the primary Oceania or Asia departure bank for easier connections. It makes perfect sense to keep one flight on AA metal at primary connection times using the AA terminal.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 36):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):*AA LAX-PHX JUN 4>1.0 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0 NOV 4>1.0*AA MIA-CLT JUN 5>0 JUL 5>0 AUG 5>0 SEP 5>0 OCT 5>0 NOV 5>0*AA ORD-CLT JUN 6>0 JUL 6>0 AUG 6>0 SEP 6>0 OCT 6>0 NOV 6>0Merger-related service cuts. What a shock!

But US added the additions last week. MIACLT loses five 50-seat RJs and gaines two A320s. That's a net gain in seats. US is also adding ORDCLT and LAXPHX capacity.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:11 am

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 29):
Southwest has only run MCI-SEA during the warmer months for quite a few years now. It does look like they're ending the season earlier than last year.

That's what I was thinking, I thought I remembered the service extending into early november for WN, and when F9 was hub bed in MCI they operated a SEA non-stop as well. (though prior to AS entering the market)
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:15 am

Quoting tyler81190 (Reply 38):
That's what I was thinking, I thought I remembered the service extending into early november for WN, and when F9 was hub bed in MCI they operated a SEA non-stop as well. (though prior to AS entering the market)

Southwest stopped MCI-SEA during the slow season (January until early May) back in 2010 when it was only Midwest Airlines as competition. I think the off-season for WN has grown larger as the years have passed. In 2014 is only appears MCI-SEA operates from June 10 through September 1. in 2014 close to 80% is "off season". Strikes me as odd considering MCI is as strong as ever for Southwest. Perhaps it speaks for how Southwest does at SEA as much as anything. I guess it doesn't surprise me they don't battle Alaska in February, but 6/10 to 9/1 seems awfully short for a market they served daily for years.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:19 am

Darnit WN! I'm waiting for LGA-MCI!
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:59 am

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 39):
Strikes me as odd considering MCI is as strong as ever for Southwest. Perhaps it speaks for how Southwest does at SEA as much as anything.

Yes, I'm sure this is a "SEA-thing" and not on MCI. But unfortunately KC also looses the route; I'm sure WN has a place to use the airplane!

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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:43 am

Quoting tyler81190 (Reply 26):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MCI-SEA SEP 1.0>0.0 OCT 1.0>0

I guess AS gave WN a run for its money? Somewhat shocking that WN will be dropping the route?

I bet it is just deep Sumemr only now, but who knows.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 27):
This is possibly an error. Before UA's announcement, DL's schedules showed a reduction from 4 to 3; afterward DL put the fourth flight back on delta.com. Their OAG listing may be slow to catch up.

It's definitely deleted in their filing, so I don't know.

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 29):
Southwest has only run MCI-SEA during the warmer months for quite a few years now. It does look like they're ending the season earlier than last year.

3 months is pretty limited.

Quoting cjpmaestro (Reply 32):
WN PHL-RSW AUG 0.3>0.1
WN PHL-TPA AUG 1.6>1.2
WN MCO-PHL AUG 6>5 SEP 5>4
WN FLL-PHL AUG 1.2>0.6 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0

Are these further reductions in PHL or seasonal adjustments or combination of both?

More seasonal cuts I suspect.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 37):
But US added the additions last week. MIACLT loses five 50-seat RJs and gaines two A320s. That's a net gain in seats. US is also adding ORDCLT and LAXPHX capacity.

Has the time come to combine the AA/US codes in here? I guess not as it would still be more confusing if they don't file simultaneously.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:29 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*3P FLL-AUA APR 0.1>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.2>0

These Dutch Antilllean Airlines just cannot get it together but I've heard 3P may have had money tied in to Venezuela.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
HU ORD-PEK APR 0.6>0.4 MAY 0.6>0.5 JUN 0.6>0.4

Did HU make BOS daily from mid July to August in OAG - It was mentioned on airlineroute.net.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:52 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 42):
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 27):
This is possibly an error. Before UA's announcement, DL's schedules showed a reduction from 4 to 3; afterward DL put the fourth flight back on delta.com. Their OAG listing may be slow to catch up.

It's definitely deleted in their filing, so I don't know.

I meant Delta's error, not yours.  
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:58 pm

Quoting cjpmaestro (Reply 32):
WN PHL-RSW AUG 0.3>0.1
WN PHL-TPA AUG 1.6>1.2
WN MCO-PHL AUG 6>5 SEP 5>4
WN FLL-PHL AUG 1.2>0.6 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0

Are these further reductions in PHL or seasonal adjustments or combination of both?
Quoting enilria (Reply 42):
More seasonal cuts I suspect.

Philly.com (yes, not the best source) had an article today about the cuts.
PHL-RSW has been seasonal so this might just be a seasonal cut
There has been no indication that PHL-FLL will restart next winter
I suspect you could see a few extra frequencies on MCO/TPA next winter but not sure if they will make up for these cuts

I understand B6 does not want to rush into PHL before they build a solid foundation but I think this really provides an opportunity to jump on FLL and potentially MCO and SJU. Say if they announce in late summer for a Jan start.

Otherwise I think you might see a few more frequencies on Frontier from ILG and TTN
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:17 pm

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 45):
I understand B6 does not want to rush into PHL before they build a solid foundation but I think this really provides an opportunity to jump on FLL and potentially MCO and SJU. Say if they announce in late summer for a Jan start.

It would not at all surprise me to see B6 jump on PHL-FLL/MCO/TPA this upcoming winter (if they can manage to find slack in their fleet).

Also wouldn't be surprise to them complement the service with PIT-FLL.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:25 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WS PHX-YYZ NOV 0>1.0

I find this one interesting. Did not know they even flew to PHX.
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:42 pm

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 45):
Philly.com (yes, not the best source) had an article today about the cuts.

It is the Inquirer's website. Besides the TV stations sites, where else can you get local Philly news? Here is the link:
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...stop_Fla__service_from_Phila_.html

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 46):
It would not at all surprise me to see B6 jump on PHL-FLL/MCO/TPA this upcoming winter (if they can manage to find slack in their fleet).

Also wouldn't be surprise to them complement the service with PIT-FLL.

If it has the aircraft.. Along with those two, ORD-FLL and maybe CLE-FLL if it opens some CLE service. However, it seems B6 is busy with DCA, BOS business oriented routes and international out of it's focus cities/hubs more lately than northeast/midwest to Florida route additions.

Locally-I think it's more likely that ILG-FLL is started on F9 as 3-4x weekly.

It's also very likely that NK moves some or all ACY Florida flights over to PHL or there is no loss but PHL just gains more NK. If it cuts ACY Florida entirely, G4 or F9 would hopefully add that airport.

I'm surprised by this comment:
"Jeffrey Erlbaum, owner of ETA Travel in Conshohocken, said that if another carrier does not pick up the Florida routes, his clients might drive or take the train to Baltimore and fly from there."

Has US/AA already increased the fares after August, or does he have a distaste for either?

[Edited 2014-03-14 09:51:16]
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RE: OAG Changes 3/14/2014: AA/DL/UA/WN

Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:07 pm

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 48):
It is the Inquirer's website. Besides the TV stations sites, where else can you get local Philly news? Here is the link:
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines....html

I just meant that it might not be the best source for accurate info specifically around the airline industry.
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