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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:09 am

If engine data is sent via ACARS, then why wasn't it mentioned that ACARS was still working for hours?
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:11 am

Quoting PanAmPaul (Reply 196):
To me, this sounds like the Malaysian's are backpeddling a bit but it's not really clear.

Malaysia: Radar Tracked Object Over Strait of Malacca Saturday Morning

Quote:
Life Raft Reported Found, Fishermen Say They Saw Low-Flying Plane

"The Times also reported on Wednesday that a different group of fishermen found a life raft with the word “Boarding” on it ten nautical miles from Port Dickson, although the life raft later sunk while the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency attempted to bring the raft on board."

I would not be surprised if something could not be successfully picked up out of the water...      

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:14 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 200):
If Mike Mckay is correct then the engine monitoring data is wrong. If the engine monitoring data is correct then Mike Mckay is wrong. Awesome!

I'll take engine data over a guy on an oil rig. No offense to him, but witnesses are notoriously unreliable.

That assumes the engine data story is accurate, which needs to be confirmed somehow. But even before this, I'm just disinclined to believe a single witness about anything, especially at night. I don't think he's making it up, but put yourself in his shoes - you see a plane fly overhead that you're not used to seeing, maybe it's got its landing lights on because it's below 10,000 feet, and, ya know, landing (witnesses often mistake landing lights as "fire"), then the next day you hear a plane has gone missing in the same general area of the world and at the same general time. What are you going to conclude?

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:15 am

Quoting nupogodi (Reply 183):
I'm not sure they would be heard outside of the water, but I could be wrong.

They drop sonobuoys into the water - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eidMDdMK38s
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:15 am

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 201):

If engine data is sent via ACARS, then why wasn't it mentioned that ACARS was still working for hours?

The Malaysian authorities have been deliberately sketchy about answering questions about ACARS. They have never absolutely denied anything.
 
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hoooleeey wow. this incident is surely worthy of some 5000 posts. After reading the latest WSJ story, kinda speechless at this point.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:17 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 203):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 200):
If Mike Mckay is correct then the engine monitoring data is wrong. If the engine monitoring data is correct then Mike Mckay is wrong. Awesome!

I'll take engine data over a guy on an oil rig. No offense to him, but witnesses are notoriously unreliable.

If the engine data is correct (which I'd also believe more so than a witness), then this makes for more possibilities...
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:17 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 200):
If the plane was hijacked, could the cockpit have been entered (let's say while a pilot used the toilet) without being seen by other passengers?

Not likely. The door would be closed and locked on exit. Typically an F/A is required to be on the flight deck in such a situation. Not sure about Malaysia policies.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:20 am

If it is indeed true that the a/c kept on flying for 4-5 more hours, then it is again quite possible that the transponder was turned off and the plane flown somewhere intentionally.

Isn't it strange that the plane would coincidentally go off radar after just having signed off with "good night" on the Malaysian side, and before establishing contact with the Vietnamese? This way a long period of time would pass before either side notices something unusual.
 
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Quoting KIAS (Reply 208):
Not likely. The door would be closed and locked on exit. Typically an F/A is required to be on the flight deck in such a situation. Not sure about Malaysia policies.

With what is known about the FO (the flight from HKT when two women were supposedly entertained in the cockpit for the entire flight - pics to back up the story too) I don't think that MH policies really matter...

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:20 am

Anyone think that China is going to take control of this investigation?

This investigation is an embarrassment to the fine Malaysian people

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In addition to giving us a generalized flight path, I believe the data can also be reduced to provide altitude and airspeed for those extra hours.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:20 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 200):

Yes, one or the other is wrong, because both can't be right. Just wondering why no other witness than Mr. McKay. Did he see any explosion upon impact? Could it have been something else that he saw? The WSJ piece is very intriguing and aligns with a lot that has been discussed here. If I had to choose, the WSJ info has more credence than Mr. Mckay's sighting. This is still a puzzle in every sense!!
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:21 am

5 hours @ 777 cruise speed of 512 knots = 2560 nautical miles. That's a LOT of globe in that radius.

As far as hijacking theories, it doesn't appear to include any of the likely places a hijacked aircraft would be taken, except perhaps NW Sumatra...which would only take an hour or so to reach, from the last known position, so they would have to be flying in circles somewhere for hours.

The only place within that radius that a 777 might be successfully landed and hidden, to my mind, is...

Well, nowhere, really.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:23 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 211):
Anyone think that China is going to take control of this investigation?

I think the NTSB and US Navy did just that, informally.

Also, do you all realize who did the WSJ piece? Jon Ostrower (FlightBlogger), an a.net alumnus.

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:24 am

Quoting dcsben (Reply 209):
Isn't it strange that the plane would coincidentally go off radar after just having signed off with "good night" on the Malaysian side, and before establishing contact with the Vietnamese? This way a long period of time would pass before either side notices something unusual.

If it was intentional, they knew the area well.

I'm just wondering, what's the motive?!

I hope to god they disprove this WSJ story because if it's true, that plane could be anywhere. It may be lost forever.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:27 am

$ hour radius map that is out there.

Quoting dcsben (Reply 209):
Isn't it strange that the plane would coincidentally go off radar after just having signed off with "good night" on the Malaysian side, and before establishing contact with the Vietnamese? This way a long period of time would pass before either side notices something unusual.

Yes, it is strange. A big clue that was just out there.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:27 am

Quoting nupogodi (Reply 216):
I'm just wondering, what's the motive?!

Does anyone know what type of cargo MH 370 was carrying? Perhaps this might very well be a reason?
 
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I have to say...the last three nights, right about this time at night, some new piece of information has appeared that makes me say, quite entirely out loud,

"What the fuuuu...."

This is all so bizarre.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:29 am

I'm really sick of this story! Some individual must know where this is and thousands of dollars are being spent with tons of made up junk!
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:30 am

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 218):
Does anyone know what type of cargo MH 370 was carrying?

As far as I know that has not been made public.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:30 am

Quoting nupogodi (Reply 216):
I hope to god they disprove this WSJ story because if it's true, that plane could be anywhere. It may be lost forever.

Read the WSJ piece more carefully:

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:31 am

I wonder if any of the pilots had financial difficulties?

Also, how come it has taken five days to find out that the engine monitoring data suggests that the plane flew for 5 more hours?

The longer this goes on, the more I also think "What the fuuuu..."
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Well the Wall Street Journal article gives me a bit of cover to say this... and it is sheerly speculation.

The possibility is very remote, I have been holding my tongue for a few days now. But I have been wondering if some group decided to actually take an airliner for later use, a la 9/11.

If it were true - that some group had control of part of a country (such as al Qaeda reportedly is retaking parts of Iraq and Afghanistan), would they not possibly have resources as simple as a landing strip and some fuel, to allow a plane to take off again later for terror purposes?

So then the question would be... what would have been the realistic range of the 777? If it actually landed, instead of crashing, what path could it have taken to have avoided being caught on radar far afield of the disappearance location? If it had flown on for five more hours, how much fuel would be left in the tanks...e.g. how much stored/available fuel would have to be in reserve at the landing airport to give it some range on the next flight?

Please do not take me wrong - I am not trying to be a conspiracist... but I do like to examine options.

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:36 am

Quoting philask (Reply 205):
The Malaysian authorities have been deliberately sketchy about answering questions about ACARS. They have never absolutely denied anything.

Yes, that seems likely. Based on the new information, the person who took control of the plane knows a lot about the 777 but did not realize that ACARS data is still being transmitted (apparently without the location infromation, though).

I thought that a suiciadal pilot crashing the plane into the ocean somewhere was the most probable explanation. Some people suggested even more outlandish scenarios like hijacking the plane for a future attack, and now even those kind of scenarios don't seem impossible and according to the WSJ article US investigators are examing also those scenarios.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:36 am

Quoting Capt747Ret (Reply 195):
The data feeds can be traced to the ground receiving stations which would give a good plot of its flight path.

One question though; if it were to fly over open ocean how would there be ground receiving stations (other than on small Islands)? This means that the aircraft either flew close to or over land. Wonder why the WSJ article did not raise this point. If my understanding is correct then that rules out the vast Indian Ocean on the southwest and the vast open Pacific Ocean on the east. Thoughts? Otherwise, does the engine data get transmitted via satellite in which case there would not be any ground stations involved and there would be no flight path information!!
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:36 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 215):

If I was the NTSB I would stay well clear of any microphone. Just keep releasing facts as they come in.

I have a feeling India military radar is going to enter into this investigation in a big way. I am sure RR and Boeing would prefer to stay in the shadows here.

This is ridiculous news and if it came from the Malaysian investigators I would not believe it for the minute that it would hang out there before they issue a correction and backtrack.

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:38 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 222):
Read the WSJ piece more carefully:

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

Well, either

1) They are speculating

2) They know way more than we do

:/

This is so so so so weird.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:40 am

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 220):
I'm really sick of this story!

With all due respect, this is not a story. This is a tragedy for some 239+ families. Let's try to remember that.

While the WSJ tweet about 5 hrs of ACARS data is interesting - I'll wait for some kind of confirmation. I find it very hard to credit that this was known and not reported. I also find it hard to credit this was "just discovered". Rolls Royce reported some days ago that they received just 2 engine reports.
Why would Roller say that if it was not true?

Note - the WSJ report starts out with

"U.S. investigators suspect" Emphasize "suspect"

Well - I suspect it may have flown for hours too - but that damn well does not mean I know it.
Show me the data folks.

Also - "according to two people familiar with the details" Who. Where are they. Why have we not heard it.

While I would like it to be true - as many have noted, it may give us clues - I am very skeptical.
I would also require - yes require- to be told why this was just noted.

BTW - why only engine data. Was that the only part of ACARS operating? ACARS sends far more than just engine data.

Well - it is morning in Malaysia, night here. I will see what we see in the morning.

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:41 am

Quoting philask (Reply 205):
The Malaysian authorities have been deliberately sketchy about answering questions about ACARS. They have never absolutely denied anything.

Well, we had this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...sia-airlines-idUSBREA291D520140310

The Malaysian passenger jet that disappeared on Saturday did not make automatic contact with a flight data-monitoring system after vanishing from radar screens, two people familiar with the matter said.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:42 am

Wikipedia lists the range of the 772ER as 14,300km... I would presume that is with a reasonable payload though isn't it? If it were loaded with a maximum fill of fuel and a cargo hold containing things that none of us really want to entertain the thought of... It could reach pretty much anywhere couldn't it?


I sincerely hope the WSJ is talking to a crackpot in a tin foil hat, because the possibility of the plane being stolen and later 're-used' is nothing short of terrifying.

If the plane was really transmitting ACARS data back though, does that make the entire SAR for show only? If they knew that it was potentially thousands of km away from the area, I can't imagine they could waste so many resources looking where they knew the plane wasn't going to be!
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:43 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 228):
I have a feeling India military radar is going to enter into this investigation in a big way.

Why? Do you have more information than we do? Just curious.

India has already joined though - http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Natio...ing-MH370-Japan-India-join-search/
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:45 am

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 231):
two people familiar with the matter said

I am really starting to doubt this "people familiar with the matter" thing. At this stage nobody is familiar with anything now  .
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:46 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 215):
I think the NTSB and US Navy did just that, informally.

In my view the "Malaysian Authorities" are not up to this job. These last several days have been completely chaotic. It's long past time for some adult supervision. If the WSJ story is correct, this SAR just went from challenging to insane. They need a professional and experienced SAR management team and resources well beyond what Malaysia can coordinate and use effectively.
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Quoting flood (Reply 190):
Ah, thanks... was surprised it disappeared so quick but I guess you being a mod explains that  

Being a mod has some benefits besides the private jet  .

Quoting dcsben (Reply 209):
Isn't it strange that the plane would coincidentally go off radar after just having signed off with "good night" on the Malaysian side, and before establishing contact with the Vietnamese? This way a long period of time would pass before either side notices something unusual.

That's personally why I think a crew member took control and took the aircraft somewhere else. That's either an unbelievably incredible time for things to go wrong, or someone had other plans... Either way it's sketchy.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 211):
Anyone think that China is going to take control of this investigation?

I think China and US are going to take the lead. By the sound of it Vietnam is beyond fed up, and Malaysia isn't doing a proper job, especially when it comes to the press.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 215):
I think the NTSB and US Navy did just that, informally.

If they have the resources they should. Be a pseudo lead. It was a US produced aircraft that many US and international airlines use. If they can do a better job, they should work to find out what happened in case it was mechanical.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 215):
Also, do you all realize who did the WSJ piece? Jon Ostrower (FlightBlogger), an a.net alumnus.

He's a true avgeek. That's part of the reason I believe this more than some random aviation writer from CNN. If you don't follow him on twitter you should, the guy has some great informational tweets.

Quoting CO953 (Reply 225):
The possibility is very remote, I have been holding my tongue for a few days now. But I have been wondering if some group decided to actually take an airliner for later use, a la 9/11

Someone mentioned this a couple threads ago (not sure which, there has been so many I don't think anybody could keep up). I think that may be part of the reason the US is taking the lead. They are worried about the security risk associated with a plane having landed somewhere and possibly be used as a weapon, whether that would be in the US or abroad. But it does beg the question, why Malaysia Airlines? Malaysia is a pretty neutral country. Easy target perhaps? I don't know, it's scary to think what could have happened. It's sad that we ,instead of worrying about recovering about the passengers, we have to consider the fact that the aircraft could be used as a weapon...
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:47 am

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 230):
why only engine data. Was that the only part of ACARS operating? ACARS sends far more than just engine data.

Its most probably added by RR the sole purpose of contracted maintenence, I think we all suspect by now that Malaysian does not contract for ACARS as such even though they imply that they do.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:47 am

I did not see it mentioned in this thread that at the press conference yesterday it was said that:

"We are looking into four areas: one; hijacking, two; sabotage, three; psychological problems of the passengers and crew and four; personal problems among the passengers and crew."

The fact a mechanical problem is not even one of the 4 areas shocked me - they seem to be ruling out the plane crashing anywhere near where it went off radar

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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:48 am

Quoting Enobar (Reply 232):
If the plane was really transmitting ACARS data back though, does that make the entire SAR for show only? If they knew that it was potentially thousands of km away from the area, I can't imagine they could waste so many resources looking where they knew the plane wasn't going to be!

Apparently the ACARS data contains only some engine parameters and no location information in this case. Theoretically the plane could have circled around the last known location for four hours before crashing. And as any potential explanation is extremely unlikely, I can see how the SAR effort is justified.
 
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:48 am

Has anyone read this person's twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/flyingwithfish

seems like this person might know a lot more than is being told to us....
 
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The interesting thing about the WSJ article is it contradicts earlier reports that a lesser amount of EHM snapshots were sent. The RR systems typically take 3 snapshots per flight at takeoff, climb, and cruise, but more can be taken (limited by cost).

The Trent model engines can provide 3 types of EHM report data: snapshots during flight, abnormalities, and end of flight summaries. If MH370 flew for 4+ hours, as reported, it would be interesting to note if unusual engine conditions were captured.

EHM data is sent to ground stations using ACARS during flight. It will be interesting to see what comes out because the EHM data is technically property of the airline, despite being sent to the OEM.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:49 am

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 230):
Also - "according to two people familiar with the details" Who. Where are they. Why have we not heard it.

Expecting journalists to reveal sources who are probably revealing things that require security clearance is naive. NTSB investigators are not amateurs and neither is the Wall Street Journal. I trust their reporting more than anything we've heard in the past few days.

The press conference today should be interesting.
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This has CAPTAIN written all over it, perhaps in collusion with others (though doubtful). Clearly, info has been suppressed throughout the course of investigation by US govt. in interest of national security. Will engine data show shut down, flame out or other???? Imagine this info is also known but hasn't been leaked??????
 
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Quoting SamH123 (Reply 238):
The fact a mechanical problem is not even one of the 4 areas really shocked me - the people involved seem to be ruling out the plane being anyway near where it went off radar

Actually, and I don't blame you for missing it in the previous 16 threads... This was commented on several times, but in the light of this new information about "flying on" it does suggest that authorities knew that it flew on...

I believe there's a lot known that is not being made public, maybe behind the scenes negotiations?
 
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MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 17

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:51 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 228):
If I was the NTSB I would stay well clear of any microphone. Just keep releasing facts as they come in.

I'm willing to bet that is exactly what they will do. They are professionals and don't talk until they have something. Maybe the police doing the investigation in Malaysia should take some notes..

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 228):
I am sure RR and Boeing would prefer to stay in the shadows here.

If I were a betting man I would say there will be no official statements on it unless they are rejecting the story. If it is true not a word will be said. Not after how long it has been kept quiet.

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 230):
Rolls Royce reported some days ago that they received just 2 engine reports.
Why would Roller say that if it was not true?

Perhaps they were told by investigators to not say anything to prevent people from getting nervous? I know when I heard the news I was shocked. It changed my mind from 50% chance of mechanical issue 50% crime related to leaning more towards some kind of criminal act.
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MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 17

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:51 am

Quoting dcsben (Reply 209):
If it is indeed true that the a/c kept on flying for 4-5 more hours, then it is again quite possible that the transponder was turned off and the plane flown somewhere intentionally.

I read that. But it makes no sense. Which terrorist group in that part of the world, giving the ass kicking they´ve been receiving for the past decade and a half, has the infrastructure to carry out such an operation? I can buy they managed to hijack the plane and fly it somewhere, land it (it´s happened before) but then prepare a 777 for a future operation? With no government in that part of the world knowing about it? It sounds like a bad Bond movie plot.

The only place it could have gone if flying West is to countries that are not going to be able to hide something like this for such a long time, or not knowing about it.

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 223):
Also, how come it has taken five days to find out that the engine monitoring data suggests that the plane flew for 5 more hours?

I would guess that it´s data that has taken a while to analyze and then re analyze.
 
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MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 17

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:52 am

It's amazing how this whole story has turned in just 1 hour. I wonder if this will be mentioned in tonights press conference.
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MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 17

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:54 am

Hi Everyone,

This thread has gotten long. Part 18 has been created and can be found here MH370 B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 18 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 12 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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