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RE: Go! Hawai'i To Cease Ops 4/1/14

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:46 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 28):
Having read various books on aviation in Hawaii, one recurring topic was the constant competition between HA and AQ to operate the most modern / advanced aircraft (not in a technical sense, but from the perspective of the travelling public).

That stopped once HA and AQ got the DC-9 and 737-200.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 28):
Given that apparent obsession on the islands, I really doubt that an outfit operating with turboprops on the trunk routes will ever be able to survive competing with the incumbent jet airline - even if it operates spanking new props and the jets are 20 years old. The last that have tried were Mahalo and MidPacific and the "free low-altitude flightseeing en route" (as Mahalo advertised the services) was no lasting success...

The biggest difference now is that AQ is gone. A turboprop operator will have a better chance competing against 1 all-jet operator than 2 all-jet operators who advertise the jet vs. prop aspect. When WP had the Q400, they advertised the speed of the aircraft in their commercials.
 
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RE: Go! Hawai'i To Cease Ops 4/1/14

Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:58 am

Quoting TPA0822 (Reply 42):
So - who will jump in to fill the very small void? WN, B6, DL?

AS may be able to do some inter-island flying, plane lands at 3p/4p go around the islands then red-eyes back to the mainland, maybe some early morning stuff as well. Best on a B737-700, though doable on a B737-800.

Just a thought.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:00 am

Quoting n7371f (Reply 31):
And so ends one of the nastiest, least profitable airline ventures in recent time.

As many people knew from day one.   

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 24):
Yes, this intermediary period has been a real cluster over there, but I am telling you, they have been turning things around. They have 5 aircraft now, and although the ATR's have not impressed in terms of reliability, they will not be stretched in terms of scheduling for the immediate future. There will almost always be spares available. Their on time performance has been improving dramatically with this. It's also very evident that company culture and customer service initiatives have been put into place. Hell, all the ramp employees now wave to to the plane on departure and arrival. I felt like I was in Japan.

Whether this is a balanced view or not, _thank you_ for one of the most interesting posts in a long while about a US carrier.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:05 am

I won't shed any tears for their demise. Crappy service on old crappy planes. Not very good if you are competing with HA.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:04 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 25):
You know, if you are a airline and aircraft a.nutter for real, you'll enjoy Mokulele and the great views as they fly much lower than pressurized planes. I took 'em last fall OGG-MKK-OGG the morning after they emergency landed one of their planes on a Maui highway from casostrophic engine failure, we didn't die, and the no TSA thing was awesome, bags too.

Thanks for the info! I will no doubt hop on them for sure, one way. I think I will do HA 717 back. But, having never flown on a ATR..... Ughhhhh! If Aloha was still around, it would have been on them for sure. What do you guys think? 717 or ATR? I am leaning more to HA though.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:50 am

Quoting TPA0822 (Reply 44):
Good point. I wonder if 'Ohana can ramp up quicker to discourage competition.

What do you mean? Ohana is in full operation as of today. More flights to come in the future but of what's been technically announced, they're flying a full schedule.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:53 am

You can get a 717 in the mainland anytime you want with DL and FL/WN....ATR's are a rarity anywhere in North America at this point.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:54 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 54):
What do you guys think? 717 or ATR?

If it was the -500 series ATR then I'd definitely recommend the ATR, especially as it is relatively easy to catch a 717 on the mainland. The 500s are excellent little planes, with a quiet and spacious cabin. The -200 series, though, are definitely more "old style" prop. The 717 is a joy to fly on IMHO.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:48 am

Quoting amwest2united (Reply 51):
AS may be able to do some inter-island flying, plane lands at 3p/4p go around the islands then red-eyes back to the mainland, maybe some early morning stuff as well. Best on a B737-700, though doable on a B737-800.

Just a thought.

That might work if they flew triangle routes (e.g. SEA-KOA-HNL-SEA), but the 73G and 738 (specifically, their engines) cannot handle the extremely short interisland flights day after day. (The CFM56, like most turbofans, requires at least an hour at cruise in order to cool down after takeoff, and no interisland flight is longer than 45-50 minutes.) AQ found that out the hard way when they first picked up the 73G.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:18 am

Quoting HNLPointShoot (Reply 58):
AQ found that out the hard way when they first picked up the 73G.

I got a couple rides in on the 733 and 734, They got the 73G for mainland routes, IIRC they did some Inter Island flying too.

I have a beautiful solid resin model on display in my bedroom 1/25 scale, of an AQ 734 in the last livery, it is beautiful, and one of my most favored possessions.

I flew a lot of AQ in the 90s, the company I worked for sold more inter island tickets/coupons than Aloha did, so lots of freebies making weekend outer island trips the norm for at least 2 years of my time living there, there were also the many times I'd commute back and forth each day from my home in Honolulu to one of our outer island offices OGG/LIH/KOA/ITO almost always on AQ, I'm sure I flew most, if not all of the 73Ss in the fleet during those years.
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:35 pm

David Banmiller said all along that Mesa Air's go! was deliberately flying at a loss to put Aloha Airlines out of business, and would raise fares later.

"Go was a parasite and destroyed so many people's lives," Banmiller said from Ireland where he now lives. "We warned everybody from the Justice Department to the governor and the editorial boards but to no avail."

Link: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/2...-News+%28Hawaii+News+Now+-+News%29
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:25 pm

Good riddance to go!, but the date is one that worries me.....Please God do not let this be a April's fool joke to get more attention.

Would be see HA using some of the 767's on the early morning/high occupancy fights from HNL to OGG? I know after the demise of AQ, HA did sub in a 767 for the HNL-OGG flight to pick up the slack.

Quoting HNLPointShoot (Reply 58):
That might work if they flew triangle routes (e.g. SEA-KOA-HNL-SEA), but the 73G and 738 (specifically, their engines) cannot handle the extremely short interisland flights day after day. (The CFM56, like most turbofans, requires at least an hour at cruise in order to cool down after takeoff, and no interisland flight is longer than 45-50 minutes.) AQ found that out the hard way when they first picked up the 73G.

Agree, most people think it is a quick fix to this, but do not realize that AQ's decision to use CFM's killed them and those engines are not designed for the quick and hot inter-island hops that HA's 717's do.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 54):
What do you guys think? 717 or ATR? I am leaning more to HA though.

Of you could for a ATR one way and the 717 on the way back or vice versa. I have not been on the ATR, but I have been on a lot of HA's 717 and they are nice quick trips. If it were me, I would go with a ATR right now and say that I will need to come back to Hawai'i for the 717 at a later date. Once you go to Hawai'i, you only want to go back.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:16 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 61):
Would be see HA using some of the 767's on the early morning/high occupancy fights from HNL to OGG?

No need to. go! only has 4 flights on weekdays and 5 on the weekends to OGG for a total of 200/250 daily seats. To compare, WP has more daily flights (6 daily) and seats (64 pax) to OGG than go!. All HA would need to do is add 1 extra flight to accommodate most of the demand and allowing WP, Mokulele, etc take up the rest of the demand.
 
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:32 pm

How will this impact flights using Mokulele's metal?
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:19 am

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 61):

Would be see HA using some of the 767's on the early morning/high occupancy fights from HNL to OGG?

Yes, it's already scheduled for some flights this summer.
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:07 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 63):

How will this impact flights using Mokulele's metal?

Good question, although seperate entities, Mokulele will have too find a new way to distribute its tickets, I know my last Mokulele tickets were plated on YV. I think Mokulele will continue strong, best wishes to them.
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:16 am

If we speculate about a new entrant, would the E190/E195 be the best suited type of jet currently available for operations in Hawaii? Given the need to haul quite a bit of luggage / carry-ons and to offer a big airliner-sytle cabin to ompete with HA's 717s, the CR9 / CRK are probably than ideal and anything else around would be too big. Or, relative to the E190/5, would some of the new upcoming types like the CS100 or the MRJ be a better choice, given the nature of the operation?
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:20 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 66):
If we speculate about a new entrant, would the E190/E195 be the best suited type of jet currently available for operations in Hawaii?

Obviously jets like the MRJ are yet to be determined, but Mokulele (operated by shuttle america) used E-170s inter-island for a while and they had a lot of problems with the engines and short flights/turn times. I don't know the details but the E-170 was extremely reliable in the UAX and DL connection operation for Shuttle America and the inter-island issues were directly attributed to the flight lengths and ground times.
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:41 am

Quoting SVA402 (Reply 64):
Yes, it's already scheduled for some flights this summer.

Really? Are these regularly scheduled flights or position flights for the new KOA/LIH 767 flying?
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:46 am

I am quite surprised, by the way, about the difficulties of finding suitable aircraft for Hawaii ops. While the trunk routes are rather short at 100 - 210 miles by US standards, I can think of similar operations elsewhere, e.g. the Danish domestic routes radiating from CPH to AAL, AAR, KRP, BLL that are or have been served with jets, the longest of which is just 150m. In the times of Danair, the aircraft were exclusively used on those routes and did not do longer legs during the day. Admittedly, that was at a time when DC9s and 737-200 were used. Nowadays, my understanding is that the SK A32Xs used are also operating on other, longer routes. Really looks as if they don't built suitable jets for those short hops nowadays, which makes the case for turboprops on the Hawaiian routes even more compelling.
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:13 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 65):
Good question, although seperate entities, Mokulele will have too find a new way to distribute its tickets, I know my last Mokulele tickets were plated on YV. I think Mokulele will continue strong, best wishes to them.

Looks like Mokulele's website is set up to sell tickets, but it has not been updated to address the demise of Go!.

Their Facebook page make it sound like operations will continue as usual, but I cannot get through to them on the phone or get an email reply. Something tells me that they are sort of busy.

I've got HNL-MKK in April and MKK-HNL in May booked on Go! paper.
Should be OK, but would like to confirm.

For ITO-HNL in April I immediately bought tickets on HA.
Not going to put vacation plans at risk waiting for Go! to contact me about rebooking.
Seriously not holding my breath and expecting hear from them ever.

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Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:16 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 66):

If we speculate about a new entrant, would the E190/E195 be the best suited type of jet currently available for operations in Hawaii?

No.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 69):
I am quite surprised, by the way, about the difficulties of finding suitable aircraft for Hawaii ops. While the trunk routes are rather short at 100 - 210 miles by US standards, I can think of similar operations elsewhere, e.g. the Danish domestic routes radiating from CPH to AAL, AAR, KRP, BLL that are or have been served with jets, the longest of which is just 150m. In the times of Danair, the aircraft were exclusively used on those routes and did not do longer legs during the day. Admittedly, that was at a time when DC9s and 737-200 were used. Nowadays, my understanding is that the SK A32Xs used are also operating on other, longer routes. Really looks as if they don't built suitable jets for those short hops nowadays, which makes the case for turboprops on the Hawaiian routes even more compelling.

I believe that I read somewhere that it has more to do with the climate they are flying in and the high utilization of aircraft that the E jets were not up to the task.
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:37 pm

So what's the issue with the EJets? They are flying in Australia, Africa, South America - the climate in Hawaii is not that extreme?
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:39 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 65):
Good question, although seperate entities, Mokulele will have too find a new way to distribute its tickets, I know my last Mokulele tickets were plated on YV. I think Mokulele will continue strong, best wishes to them.

Mokulele has its own ticket stock and is bookable almost everywhere. The YV was just another way to book. You should be fine.

Mokulele plans on adding 3 more aircraft to its fleet because of this change.
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:00 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 72):
So what's the issue with the EJets? They are flying in Australia, Africa, South America - the climate in Hawaii is not that extreme?

The issue was more along the lines of the planes doing frequent short hops, with little ground time at either end to allow cooling of the engines. This is true for all the inter island jet operations, not just with the E-jets. With short airtime and short ground time, the only time the planes rested were overnight. HAL operates from 500am to around 11pm with 10-16 sectors a day on each frame, for example. HAL has a few operational spares as well, to rotate into and out of the operation to keep the day running smoothly and to spread out the cycles on the planes. Also, HAL plans the flights to have about 3 minutes of cruise to allow the engines to cool at cruise thrust.

Once again… The Go! operation was so tiny, at the equivalent to about 8 HAL round trips, throughout the entire network on a daily basis. Not a ton to backfill, but I expect HAL to fill in during the peak times where demand is strongest. I'd be shocked if there were regularly scheduled 767s to backfill.
 
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:14 am

Quoting n1805bn (Reply 60):

David Banmiller said all along that Mesa Air's go! was deliberately flying at a loss to put Aloha Airlines out of business, and would raise fares later.

"Go was a parasite and destroyed so many people's lives," Banmiller said from Ireland where he now lives. "We warned everybody from the Justice Department to the governor and the editorial boards but to no avail."

Agreed. However Banmiller, while a regular, nice guy, was a fitting person to see the collapse of Aloha. His career is littered with airline bankruptcies and failures. He was not the man for the job.

That said, had the sudden fuel spike in 2007 not happened, United would have owned Aloha (and ATA) and there would likely be some form of the airline still around. United abruptly backed out the moment oil prices went crazy.
 
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:46 am

Quoting usxguy (Reply 73):
Mokulele plans on adding 3 more aircraft to its fleet because of this change.

Do you know if the Mokulele plane that had its wings clipped off after a Maui highway landing will ever fly again, Or is one of these three to replace that one plane?
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:30 am

Quoting brilondon (Reply 71):
I believe that I read somewhere that it has more to do with the climate they are flying in and the high utilization of aircraft that the E jets were not up to the task.

I heard it was lease rates.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 72):
So what's the issue with the EJets? They are flying in Australia, Africa, South America - the climate in Hawaii is not that extreme?

Besides lease rates, there is engine cooling time as already noted (a big advantage of the BR715s). IIRC (going from memory here), the GEs would require more ground time for engine cooling between takeoffs. That itself isn't a deal breaker, but combined with the higher E190 lease rates, it shifts the economics to the 717 as the short sectors shift the relative costs.

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 74):
HAL operates from 500am to around 11pm with 10-16 sectors a day on each frame, for example.

Last I looked, peak season hits 17 cycles per 717 per day. HA has the highest aircraft utilization for jets in terms of cycles/day during the peak season.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 69):
Really looks as if they don't built suitable jets for those short hops nowadays, which makes the case for turboprops on the Hawaiian routes even more compelling.

Jets have a much higher per takeoff maintenance cost than turboprops. Also, turboprops have a far lower climb fuel burn. On routes ference...

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Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:49 am

One of the GO! planes has already made it to the mainland. spotted one parked in PHX today.
 
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:04 pm

Anybody guess how much Yucaipa Cos. wants for the AQ brand?
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Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:56 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 79):
Anybody guess how much Yucaipa Cos. wants for the AQ brand?

Yucaipa will want as much as they can get. They had a $95 million claim on the Aloha Airlines estate. The original deal with Mesa was 10 years for a minimum of $6 million, but the deal got struck down by the bankruptcy court because the trustee excluded the public from a public auction. In the new auction, Yucaipa won with a bid of $1.5 million for the brand. In reality, no new money, except for the fees were paid for the brand. Yucaipa just reduced the amount of their claim on the Aloha Airlines estate.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...009/Mar/04/bz/hawaii903040386.html

http://www.staradvertiser.com/busine...rlines_name_sold.html?id=112922419

(edit to put the links to the articles)

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Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:46 am

Quoting usxguy (Reply 73):
Mokulele has its own ticket stock and is bookable almost everywhere. The YV was just another way to book. You should be fine.

Mokulele informed me that they will not honor tickets issued on Go! stock and I need to rebook.

Like most airlines, easy as pie via the Mokulele's website.

Refund requested from Go!
Now time to wait and see if I ever here from Go! ever again.
 
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:51 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 81):
Now time to wait and see if I ever here from Go! ever again.

You will. They are Mesa Airlines and Mesa is not going anywhere, only go! is. Someone from Mesa will more the likely be in touch with you shortly and get you your refund. I wouldn't worry.
 
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:15 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 77):

Last I looked, peak season hits 17 cycles per 717 per day. HA has the highest aircraft utilization for jets in terms of cycles/day during the peak season.

Wow, do they even have time to shut off the engines or even stop...I guess we will just drop and roll.
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:14 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 33):
Here is portion of company note.
Still very much sounds like they have a plan/work for the redeployed aircraft. They are not being simply moved to be parked per statement below.




Not true. Confirmed word from a source inside YV is that the remaining 200s are lease returns heading back for the desert or beer can factory.
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:56 am

Quoting brilondon (Reply 83):
Wow, do they even have time to shut off the engines or even stop...I guess we will just drop and roll.

Turn times are very quick in the out stations. Unload, quick cleaning by the crew, load, blast off. Generally all the fueling and required servicing is done in HNL. The planes get a thorough cleaning and exterior wash every night in HNL when they all come home for the night.
 
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:16 pm

Quoting dsuairptman (Reply 84):
Confirmed word from a source inside YV is that the remaining 200s are lease returns heading back for the desert or beer can factory.

The one I flew on last year was fairly tattered cosmetically.
Not sure if the ROI could justify a serious cabin refresh.
 
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:50 pm

I've flow Island Air to Maui twice and I will never fly them again due only to the rude and obnoxious ground staff at HNL. I have never and I mean NEVER been harassed like I have with Island over carry on baggage. I fly a lot and I know the size of my bag and what airlines I can carry it on for free. They roll their eyes, make you stuff it in their little size container all trying to harass people out of an extra $20 or whatever it is. As I witnessed this most people just paid it and felt bullied.
 
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Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:33 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 83):
Wow, do they even have time to shut off the engines or even stop...I guess we will just drop and roll.

Yes, from my time flying HA they try to turn them at the outer stations in about sub 30 minutes, but at HNL they will be longer. Over Christmas at KOA our flight was scheduled for 10:30 and the inbound flight landed at 10:00 and they offloaded and then loaded and were wheels up by 10:40.

On a side not KOA is a great place to observe the turns as it is an open air airport with stair bridges.
 
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RE: Go! Hawai'i To Cease Ops 4/1/14

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:48 pm

I live Honolulu and I know about the amount of time they are on the ground. I did not realize how much the 717s are utilized and how many flights they make in a day.
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RE: Go! Hawai'i To Cease Ops 4/1/14

Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:09 am

Quoting crj900lr (Reply 82):

Quoting Tod (Reply 81):
Now time to wait and see if I ever here from Go! ever again.

You will. They are Mesa Airlines and Mesa is not going anywhere, only go! is. Someone from Mesa will more the likely be in touch with you shortly and get you your refund. I wouldn't worry.

It will likely take a while, but I am sure you will get your refund eventually. Refunds always take longer than they need to.

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 88):
On a side not KOA is a great place to observe the turns as it is an open air airport with stair bridges

First time I ever used those air walkways, where they push up the walkway (like stairs) except the path slopes downwards and there are no actual stairs, good for wheelchair access, we flew AS into KOA last OCT and I was surprised, I expect airstairs as it always had been before when flying HA or AQ over the past 30 years.
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RE: Go! Hawai'i To Cease Ops 4/1/14

Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:19 am

Quoting netjetandy (Reply 87):
I've flow Island Air to Maui twice and I will never fly them again due only to the rude and obnoxious ground staff at HNL

Sorry you had such a bad experience. My experience, fortunately, has been exactly the opposite. I would fly them in a heartbeat.

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