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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:17 am

Malaysia said to be sending a contingent of ships to the area. If true, could hint further at credibility of findings.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:18 am

How would you like to be flying that low level search at night, in weather... that far from anywhere? Think of the distances and vastness of that area. That P-8 came into the fleet just in time.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:19 am

Interesting that a path plotted from IGREX to the South Pole crosses very close to the southern most end of the original "southern arc" and also very close to the estimated position (1500 miles SW of Perth) of this latest debris sighting. Does anyone here know a LAT/LONG for this current debris?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:19 am

Quoting chaseus1 (Reply 134):
Well now we have a good clue which country found radar rata that could be pertinet... Australia!

Sometimes, I think we need to ask the obvious instead of assuming the obvious. "Australia, did you see anything?" ..."Indonesia, did you see anything?"..."Iran, do you have the plane?".... Instead of blanket statement due to countries revealing their capabilities. May have been covered after the Thai Authorities stated " They didn't ask..."

Gosh, I hope they find this plane.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:27 am

Quoting dank (Reply 201):

Both have radar. The P3 has MAD gear which the US P8s do not

Was it cancelled or removed from the program?

"The P-8A is also fitted with the CAE advanced integrated magnetic anomaly detection (MAD) system. The aircraft carries a rotary sonobuoy launcher with pneumatic ejection, being developed by EDO Corporation. The data links are being developed by Northrop Grumman Information Technology Division in Herndon, Virginia."
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:30 am

If the debris turns out to be from MH370, I'm curious if the pilot or copilot spoke about the reason for diverting the aircraft to its doom because he knew he was being recorded in the final two hours of the flight (to let us all know why he did it). It's going to be a long night (or day if the sun has already risen at your location).
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:30 am

Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 17):
Never said he made anything up, but what makes what he is tweeting "pretty right?" Is that what we are aiming for these days? If he tweets enough crap, he will eventually be right. On the other hand, how do you know that he has broken stories before every other media outlet?

well i may have spoke too soon; looks like the Aussies found something. No its just weird because he would say something days before and then the media would pick it up. Either he is full of crap, and he very well may be, or he knows something they don't know.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:31 am

Quoting jelliesR (Reply 192):

Will "flying with fish" tweet an apology on behalf of his source, if it turns out to be south.

well i hope he does...
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:31 am

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 206):
Was it cancelled or removed from the program?

Yes.

"In mid-2008, the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) deleted the requirement for the P-8A to be equipped with magnetic anomaly detection (MAD) equipment in an effort to reduce weight by 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) to improve range and endurance."

So this has to be surface search radar hit.

[Edited 2014-03-19 22:35:49]
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:33 am

Lots of details from AMSA on the search effort for the debris was just put on their site:

http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documen...eleasePossibleDebrisFoundMH370.pdf
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:37 am

Quoting tayser (Reply 79):

That is very far away from where people thought it would have went down, which means it floated from the original site.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:41 am

I guess now we await pictures from the US Navy. If the P-8 is really getting significant radar returns, it seems like it's safe to assume they found the debris field.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:43 am

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 93):


That is true and why I think it may not be there at this point, but I hope it is, if it crashed.

[Edited 2014-03-19 22:44:00]
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:44 am

Quoting hoya (Reply 212):
I guess now we await pictures from the US Navy. If the P-8 is really getting significant radar returns, it seems like it's safe to assume they found the debris field.

Good point. But, how do we know they are getting radar returns?

Has Abbot said anything yet?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:47 am

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 211):
That is very far away from where people thought it would have went down, which means it floated from the original site

It probably means the original site was wrong.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:48 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 215):
It probably means the original site was wrong.

Yeah, that is true. Good point.

Has the PM said anything yet?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:48 am

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 209):

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 206):
Was it cancelled or removed from the program?

Yes.

"In mid-2008, the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) deleted the requirement for the P-8A to be equipped with magnetic anomaly detection (MAD) equipment in an effort to reduce weight by 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) to improve range and endurance."

So this has to be surface search radar hit.

Yes. Sorry, didn't catch your question until you found the answer  
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:48 am

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 214):

Good point. But, how do we know they are getting radar returns?

#185
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:48 am

Quoting hoya (Reply 212):
I guess now we await pictures from the US Navy. If the P-8 is really getting significant radar returns, it seems like it's safe to assume they found the debris field.

It would be safe to say that they found a field of radar reflective objects. It remains to be seen if they have anything to do with MH370. It won't be the first time that someone has found something which turns out to be completely unrelated....
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:50 am

Quoting valleyflyer (Reply 210):

Nice find, somthing in that caught my eye.

"A RAAF C130 Hercules aircraft has been tasked by RCC Australia to drop datum marker buoys. These marker buoys assist RCC Australia by providing information about water movement to assist in drift modelling. They will provide an ongoing reference point if the task of relocating the objects becomes
protracted."
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:53 am

Quoting sbkom (Reply 145):
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 124):The AF447 stabilizer floated because of trapped air.AF447 stabilizer was in composite material. 777 is not, so it may not float, no guarantees.

No, the 777 vertical and horizontal tails are composite material. The material is not lighter than water so only trapped air will cause them to float.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:56 am

JUST IN: @WrightUps from above Indian Ocean says US P-8 crew "getting radar hits of significant size;" trying to get visuals on hits.

In case people missed it, there's a journalist on the P-8 that's currently in the search area. In a call within last hour, he reported that the plane's radar was getting significant hits.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:58 am

Quoting hoya (Reply 222):

Okay, so that's the second report of radar hits from the P-8A.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:00 am

Quoting LTC8K6 (Reply 218):
Quoting zeke (Reply 185):
The objects have not been confirmed by the AP-3C.

185 says they have not been confirmed.

Quoting wxmeddler (Reply 220):


That is a very good idea.


Were the other false alarms detected by radar?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:01 am

CNN reporting Malaysia Airlines contacting families now.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:02 am

Quoting hoya (Reply 222):

JUST IN: @WrightUps from above Indian Ocean says US P-8 crew "getting radar hits of significant size;" trying to get visuals on hits.

In case people missed it, there's a journalist on the P-8 that's currently in the search area. In a call within last hour, he reported that the plane's radar was getting significant hits.

Great information. Thank you for sharing. Do we know why the US let him aboard?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:04 am

Quoting chaseus1 (Reply 225):
CNN reporting Malaysia Airlines contacting families now.

That could mean they are just letting know or they are telling them that they found something related to the crash.

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 226):

Quoting hoya (Reply 222):

JUST IN: @WrightUps from above Indian Ocean says US P-8 crew "getting radar hits of significant size;" trying to get visuals on hits.

In case people missed it, there's a journalist on the P-8 that's currently in the search area. In a call within last hour, he reported that the plane's radar was getting significant hits.

How do we know that? I cannot find that Tweet on his page and an earlier Tweet said that he had to leave his phone behind.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:08 am

True, could be that they just found something... but unique headline from others that the airline is briefing families...

I am sure they've had many briefings, but the airline spokesperson announced this one.

Families should be notified first if it is confirmed. Plus, Malaysia navy sending 6 ships there....

I think they know.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:08 am

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 227):
How do we know that? I cannot find that Tweet on his page and an earlier Tweet said that he had to leave his phone behind.

ABC News twitter feed, which has been retweeted. He apparently was able to phone in.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:10 am

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 227):
That could mean they are just letting know or they are telling them that they found something related to the crash.

I sincerely doubt that. After almost two weeks they are not going to call to give info. on another lead that is going to lead nowhere. They have a lot more info. than the media has so far been told, probably through the government.

I believe this time it´s for real. Unfortunately.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:12 am

I think that the Malaysian Government has finally let US and AS ETC take over the search with superior Tech. I think we may have some closure in a day or two.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:14 am

Everything seems to indicate this will be it.

Not to get ahead of ourselves.. but then... what? why? how?

Seems like it would be a foregone conclusion that the aircraft succumbed to fuel starvation and i'd expect everyone on board was dead long before impact.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:15 am

Quoting chaseus1 (Reply 228):
Malaysia navy sending 6 ships there....

It would be a week before they arrive, so if it's even a solid lead you would start them off. Australia has a fleet oiler on the way also (ironically named "Success") but won't be there for days (according to the AMSA statement linked above)
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:15 am

Saw this picture on Twitter, most comprehensive image yet it seems...
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:15 am

Quoting hoya (Reply 229):
ABC News twitter feed, which has been retweeted. He apparently was able to phone in.

OK, thanks.

Quoting travaz (Reply 231):
I think that the Malaysian Government has finally let US and AS ETC take over the search with superior Tech.

I agree with that. If nothing else by peer pressure from other governments, especially the Chinese.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 230):
I sincerely doubt that. After almost two weeks they are not going to call to give info. on another lead that is going to lead nowhere. They have a lot more info. than the media has so far been told, probably through the government.

I believe this time it´s for real. Unfortunately.

I agree that this is probably it. It is however, via satellite for the most part, so I won't be 100 percent convinced until something is seen by a human from a plane or a ship.

I said what I said because it could mean those two things - at least to me it could - and I wanted to put my ideas out there.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:19 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 230):
I sincerely doubt that. After almost two weeks they are not going to call to give info. on another lead that is going to lead nowhere. They have a lot more info. than the media has so far been told, probably through the government.

I believe this time it´s for real. Unfortunately.

that's what makes it horrible; i was hoping in the back of my mind they would find the plane intact somewhere....so that at least the people on board had a chance of coming home.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:21 am

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 232):
Not to get ahead of ourselves.. but then... what? why? how?

We won't know that until the black boxes are recovered and analyzed, which could take a very, very long time.

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 232):
i'd expect everyone on board was dead long before impact.

I guess that depends on what the conditions were when the e/q reached FL45.

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 232):
succumbed to fuel starvation

Maybe, maybe not. It could have intentionally crashed, but I doubt it would have flown that far just to crash into the ocean when it could have done that closer to Malaysia. The distance, however, is what someone may have wanted to achieve, however.

If this was caused by a human or humans, maybe he/she or they wanted officials to search days for it and/or have difficulty finding it. Maybe they did not want anyone to know what actually happened and wanted to make it as hard as possible to find the black boxes.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:22 am

I am unable to give sources or any other information, however I am looking at a hard copy of the satellite imagery which clearly shows the two pieces of debris.
The larger one at 24 metres is definitely a part of an aircraft wing, if it is the 777 we are looking for it would be from the engine pylon to the tip. The other part is harder to tell what it is.
The credible information is that it was found at the extreme fuel range of the aircraft off the West coast of Australia near Perth. The theory of a Helios type tragedy is now most likely but is still speculation.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:22 am

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 236):
i was hoping in the back of my mind they would find the plane intact somewhere....so that at least the people on board had a chance of coming home.

Me too. Until it is found, I could see it on an island somewhere in the middle of the ocean.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:23 am

Quoting wxmeddler (Reply 234):
Saw this picture on Twitter, most comprehensive image yet it seems...

That is a very comprehensive picture. I presume that the curve on the NTSB tracks is caused by earth rotation, not the map projection (assuming constant southerly heading).
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:23 am

Quoting k83713 (Reply 196):
P-3 has radar for metal parts, P-8 can notice any debris floating on the water.

Australia has AP-3Cs, they are not normal P-3s, they also have digital radar which can pickup just about anything on the surface, metallic, plastic, or wood. What AMSA wants at the moment is a visual confirmation, hence their low level visual search.

The MAD detector would not be very useful, the ocean is too deep in the area.

AMSA has been very careful not to say this is the aircraft, that is the area of the ocean where there have picked up a number of sailors over the years.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:24 am

The chart in reply 234 really gives an idea of how some simple math on the timing of the path through the distance rings of the satellite led to where to look.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:25 am

Quoting ERJ135 (Reply 238):
The larger one at 24 metres is definitely a part of an aircraft wing

Is that what you are told or can you tell that from looking at the image? Are you able to share the image?

Quoting ERJ135 (Reply 238):
extreme fuel range of the aircraft off the West coast of Australia near Perth.

You can't help but wonder the person flying the plane - given there was no mechanical issue(s) - knew that and intentionally made it run out of fuel there or whether he/she or they were hoping the 777 would make it somewhere.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:26 am

Quoting Finn350 (Reply 240):

It's a Mercator type map so it would preserve direction. Perhaps the track deviation is due to wind as the winds in that part of the world are quite strong. Let me see if I can pull something from that day.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:27 am

Quoting ERJ135 (Reply 238):
The theory of a Helios type tragedy is now most likely but is still speculation.

Why is that more likely than deliberate pilot choice, given the disabled comms, but enabled autopilot.
Just curious, other than, "well, he doesn't seem like the type to do such an unthinkable thing".
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:29 am

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 236):
i was hoping in the back of my mind they would find the plane intact somewhere....so that at least the people on board had a chance of coming home.

I would hope we were all hoping that until proven otherwise, regardless of how unlikely we thought it might be.

Quoting ERJ135 (Reply 238):
The theory of a Helios type tragedy is now most likely but is still speculation.

Not sure what has changed that would make you or anyone believe that. This debris appears to be right where we've thought it would be for the last several days. We knew the plane flew at least as far as the arc, and that it would be found somewhere between 0 and 60 minutes of flying time from that arc.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:30 am

Did Abbott say anything definitive during his press conference?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:31 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 246):
I would hope we were all hoping that until proven otherwise, regardless of how unlikely we thought it might be.

that's why i was hoping FWF was right....i was just hoping in my mind that SEAL Team 6 would be storming the area, taking out the bad guys, and bringing those people home. Alas, if this turns out to be pieces of the plane, it was not to be  .
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:35 am

 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38

Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:38 am

Nothing FWF was really unique or profound. Most of it was blatant guesswork like calculating a route based on a miles number. I was thinking some of the same things in regards to a larger terrorist plot, but he did not seem to offer any real intel. Bottom line, I think you will find a whole lot more credible and interesting characters if you're looking for self important, verbose windbags on the internet. Seen this kind of masquerading on twitter a lot. He's everything that's wrong with twitter, or the world..
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