|Quoting mandala499 (Reply 100):|
Determining where it landed is already dangerous then... let's put it this way... once it lands, the satcom can be disabled. Just switch off the bloody SDU above the cabin panels. Then it can take off again and the satellite won't pick up any pings or whatever. And guess what... from wherever it landed it can have enough fuel to go to Pakistan, Iran, and even... Tel Aviv! So let's not find it because people are going to go crazy about it. I mean... really?
And no, I don't have a manual for that version of the satcom. I do have for a newer version which has the SIM but not in the form of a SIMcard. It's in the Configuration Module you plug onto the SDU. The older ones (I-3) has a similar version but both version the configuration module is specific to the aircraft.
So you have a newer version (dated when?) still wouldn't mind that (I love obscure manuals). A configuration module which acts like a sim, talks a like a sim, is probable a sim card in a holder which gets a name for the holder itself. (At least that is what I'm guessing without a datasheet to go on). Have you ever taken apart a configuration module is it a huge board or a smallish block with few pins.
Why not just not have satcom on from the start. No one was talking about satcom within the flight time so they wouldn't have known inmarsat knew. This whole stealing plane theory is far fetched and well covered. Hiding a 777 from primary military radar isn't easy. And now with all the theories flying it is going to get smacked out of the sky if it shows up later. (Which begs the question of how smart these people were in the first place assuming that theory)
|Quoting mandala499 (Reply 100):|
No? You do realize that we're talking about the same thing. The northwestern most point of the arc is the furthest the airplane can possibly go to along the 40deg incline angle circle of the satellite's footprint (about a 2550nm radius circle from 64E on the equator)... it is where the satellite footprint at 40deg inclination circle intersects the 2700nm radius circle from the point of last contact. Maybe you got confused with my repeated use of the word "arc"?
Sorry, the intermediary pings are useful to determine where the plane isn't going to be, and can provide various areas of interest along the red arc where it is quite likely to be.
Those who are thinking that the intermediary pings are useful also agree that if the plane did shadow another airplane, it would not be anywhere near the edge of the endurance circle (hence away from the red arc's northwestern end)...
The authorities already used all the data to get the arcs. The intermediate pings would have already been used otherwise they wouldn't use all the data and take days to figure out the estimate. If the plane shadowed another plane it still has to land on the endurance circle (its where it was last pinged...) that is the contradiction with the shadowing/nap of the earth theory it isn't possible.
The last ping defines where the plane was last. If can't fall short of that because that is what it is. (If you think it went west then anything other than flying direct, which we know for sure would result in discovery by radar would place it far far east on the same endurance circle)
Quoting cougar15 (Reply 101):
A german´rag´(real nasty tabloid) is reporting there was 3 tons of Gold in the bellies, anyone heard this before or from a more reliable source?
The cargo manifest did not metion that listing according to earlier official reports. And 3 tons of Gold would not go un-noticed. (It would be a box the size of a bathtub but would weigh 3 tons)
Oh my, they technically lied about the cargo manifest. There are lithium batteries in the shipment according to the press conference. But they were well packed apparently according to international standards so are considered "safe". (If they meet the requirements it should have been fine, I've gotten a digikey box by air with one lithum battery in a double big labeled box with tiny fraction of the box being a single coin cell battery even if it caught fire it probably wouldn't have made it out of the box by the time it got to my door)
They should really just let the NTSB help out a bit more in the press conference side of things. (Or at least get their media teams to help prepare statements).
[Edited 2014-03-21 04:06:11 by SA7700]