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N14AZ
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HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:39 am

During a flight from Bangkok to Guangzhou I just read in the print version of Global Times China that a South Chinese company wants to sell its HS 121 currently stored on a parking lot in Zhuhai, Guandong Province.

Head line "South China company tries to flog Great Helmsman's airplane, but no buyers"
Summary:
- expected price: 8 million Yuan = 1.29 million US$, no comment  
- imported from Pakistan in 1969 with two other planes
- plane was used for Mao's trips
- decommissioned in 1986
- if unsold, the plane will be scrapped in May

I found this airframe after a quick search in our database:


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TheCheese
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 am

The 8 million Yuan or US$1.29 million is just the start on this poor old bird.
Its a toss up as to which would be less expensive after the airframe is disassembled: reconstruction and restoration at a Chinese facility at the nearest suitable airport, or shipment to the facility of the buyer's choice followed by reconstruction and restoration.
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:24 am

Is this the same aircraft which was put up for sale a few years back, and about which there was doubt over the Chairman Mao connection...?

http://www.china.org.cn/china/local/2008-10/10/content_16596250.htm

[Edited 2014-03-23 02:25:21]
 
CaptCosslett
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:25 pm

I wonder what the scrap value is?
 
chaseus1
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:56 pm

LOL... this reminds me of ads in Craigslist for a free mobile home. Usually, the mobile home is in such bad shape, it isn't worth fixing or moving, and it is someone just trying avoid paying to get it removed.
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:11 pm

Are they just trying it on with the price or would they really get that much for scrap? Surely none of the equipment is valuable or useable these days? What would be the scrap value for this?
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:01 pm

Is this the last intact Trident, and therefore worth saving, or are there others? If others, are any of them flyable?

I did ride in a BA Trident 3 between LHR and SNN. Glad to have that on my personal list.
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:15 pm

There is a trident at QFO on display. It was outside for a long time, but they have moved a lot of their display airliners inside. It is part of the Imperial War Museum. I doubt that it is flyable.
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:27 pm

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 6):
Is this the last intact Trident, and therefore worth saving, or are there others?

G-ARPO is being preserved:

http://www.savethetrident.co.uk/tag/g-arpo/

I believe there are(were?) two more in the PRC. '50056' is (was?) in Changping Aviation Museum. '50152' was (is?) in the China Civil Aviation Museum at Xiedao.
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:32 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 8):
G-ARPO is being preserved:

http://www.savethetrident.co.uk/tag/g-arpo/

Thanks for the link. Interesting site.

Somewhat off-topic, but I always wondered why the nose gear was off-center, and if that had any impact on taxi.
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:37 pm

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 6):
or are there others?

G-AWZK at the viewing park at MAN

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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:54 pm

There are actually quite a few Tridents preserved, or at least still intact, in China. The following spring to mind:

Datangshan x 2 (with a third derelict)
Beijing x 1
Tianjin x 1
Sichuan x 1
Guangzhou x 2

Hopefully this one will also be preserved.
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:54 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
There are actually quite a few Tridents preserved, or at least still intact, in China. The following spring to mind:

Also the one at Nicosia airport - abandoned but sort of intact
 
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RE: HS 121 Trident For Sale

Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:07 pm

Quoting RubberJungle (Reply 2):
Is this the same aircraft which was put up for sale a few years back

Yes, it was mentioned in that article that they already tried to sale this airframe some years ago.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
There are actually quite a few Tridents preserved, or at least still intact, in China. The following spring to mind:

Datangshan x 2 (with a third derelict)
Beijing x 1
Tianjin x 1
Sichuan x 1
Guangzhou x 2

Yes, there are at least three HS 121 in Beijing / Datangshan: one with the registration B-2207 stored in the Civil Aviation Museum (on the way between the airport and the city center) and two in Datangshan plus another one in several parts:

Civil Aviation Museum B 2207

Civil Aviation Museum, B 2207 I simple had to make this photo  

HS 121 50055 in Datangshan 2009


Unknown HS 121 in Datangshan 2009, part 1


Unknown HS 121 in Datangshan 2009, part 2


You mentioned two in Guangzhou. I saw one airframe while leaving Guangzhou stored in a kind of museum (I am planning to go there next time when I will be in Guangzhou and if I have more time). So where is the second HS 121 in Guangzhou?

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