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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:21 am

Quoting ozark1 (Reply 32):
Wow! World Airways gone. I can remember their beautiful red, white and gold DC-10's in the late 70's. Very classy looking airplane.

I remember the DC-10s in HNL as a kid in the early 80s and I always wanted to fly them just because of their regal looking livery. Since I grew up in Portland mostly, I saw very few World Aircraft, I've spotted them in BWI, OAK, LAX & HNL.

Wouldn't much of this be caused by the governments decreased need of aircraft to transport our fine servicemen and women?

Best of luck to those who provided the best service to our troops worldwide. You have safely transported our loved ones away from us, but you also brought them back home to be with us again, Thanks!
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:27 am

Does World own North American? If so, is there a slight glimmer of hope? I mean, technically, World is somewhat still alive? I sure hope North American survives. I have worked with many World Crews, and they were top notch. I hope other airlines realize this, and snatch this talent right away.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:36 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 51):
Does World own North American? If so, is there a slight glimmer of hope? I mean, technically, World is somewhat still alive?

World and North American are both owned by Global Aviation Holdings.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:01 pm

I have heard that Centurian is also on the ropes. Might be even more MD11's in the desert soon.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:30 pm

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 15):
The service was great, better than the legacy airlines. Hot meals, tons of snacks for movies, and all the soda/juice that you could handle.

For reference, every DOD flight has standard service protocols which are STRICTLY followed from the style of napkins, how food is packaged/delivered, etc. Even the kind of hot towels we can use. World did it great to be sure but in DOD flying, everyone has the same service requirements and they are audited frequently.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:44 pm

Quoting B727FA (Reply 54):
For reference, every DOD flight has standard service protocols which are STRICTLY followed from the style of napkins, how food is packaged/delivered, etc. Even the kind of hot towels we can use. World did it great to be sure but in DOD flying, everyone has the same service requirements and they are audited frequently.

Given that the original poster of that message is former World staff, as am I, we know that. But its not all about the way meals are presented, its the extra mile that the staff went for the passengers. At all the legacy airlines al the crews bid for the chance to work a DOD charter, at World, it was the norm and we could do it right, every day every time. And the bigger loss is the fact that World has been doing this for 66 years, longer than anyone else out there.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:53 pm

Very sad news. World is one of those airlines that just always seems to show up...

Also this means Oct 26th is really the end of passenger widebodies built in LGB, when KLMs last 2 flights on the 11 land in AMS? It looked like WO would keep them flying a little longer...  
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:37 pm

Quoting B727FA (Reply 54):
For reference, every DOD flight has standard service protocols which are STRICTLY followed from the style of napkins, how food is packaged/delivered, etc. Even the kind of hot towels we can use. World did it great to be sure but in DOD flying, everyone has the same service requirements and they are audited frequently.

Food doesn't matter, it's the people who do the job, and I can tell you that the supplemental carriers do it better than any of the legacy carriers. Why do you ask? Because we lived and breathed for the military. I can't count how many times that i went to Iraq for the military or Afghanistan, or Kuwait, or places that I am not going to tell you about, but the burn scar from an air start connection point on my right forearm is a permanent reminder. We did it better because we did it longer. It was a science to us. It was seeing familiar faces on flights out of POB and SVN because they were deploying yet again. It was thanking the troops for what they do. It was all of us taking a moment in HOP to watch the Screaming Eagles come home and run to their families and allowing us to take pride in bringing them home. We were a family, and those bonds helped us everyday. I miss WOA everyday. Running a department there was the best job that I have ever had and will be extremely hard to top.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:08 pm

You'll get no argument from me that World has always been a class-act! I apologize if it seemed as though I was discounting the experience and style at World. That was certainly not my intent.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:17 pm

Now that they shut down, how hard is it to buy their AOC?? I would think the "NEW" Eastern would make a run at that or maybe PeoplesEX.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:58 pm

Just heard from a source in the know that North American is pulling nearly all crews back to the US and will more than likely be going down to a one-aircraft operation with a second aircraft as a spare to a high-priority contract.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:48 pm

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 59):

Now that they shut down, how hard is it to buy their AOC?? I would think the "NEW" Eastern would make a run at that or maybe PeoplesEX.

Unless either one of those airlines want a MD-11 or 744, buying the AOC still leaves them with the huge task of inducting a new fleet type. This issue has rendered other certificates worthless as the process can be like starting out from scratch.

Also as became apparent with Ryan Intl sale fiasco, for the certificate to remain alive in the eyes of the DOT, WO would need to keep people on payroll, systems, programs and procedures alive, and documentation up to date. Otherwise it goes dormant and requires recertification from scratch.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:46 pm

Looks like N272WA is already headed to GYR.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N272WA
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:26 pm

Very sad! I took off right behind N272WA last night at BWI while she was heading to GYR. They used the Douglas N272WA call signs. There was a lot of well wishes on the radio to them. They performed a full power takeoff on RWY 28. They rotated halfway down the runway and climbed like a rocket! It was awesome and sad. Good luck guys.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:05 pm

Just Tuesday night I was roaming the flight trackers and saw 271 doing NKX-BWI. I was like, "woah a World flight". Didn't know it would be the last one before retirement.

Best of luck to the World employees. I heard nothing but good things about them.

Quoting Panther (Reply 63):

Thanks for sharing. So sad. Years ago I took a video of 272 taking off from MSP to NGF after a tech stop. One of the few times I saw a passenger MD-11. I've kept track of 272 ever since.

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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:15 pm

I will miss them, they were my favorite airline when it was a scheduled carrier, I flew them countless times from BWI-LAX on the DC-10s in the 1980s.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:07 pm

Anyone have any idea what was the Registration No. on the last flight out of Danang was?

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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:47 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 66):

Can't make it out, but here's the pic from the right side...

Courtesy: Boeing 727 Datacenter


CBS News had a crew aboard....

http://youtu.be/pzcWZ7j1iTg

[Edited 2014-03-29 11:54:06]

Rego mentioned at this link: N692WA
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:04 pm

N691WA, delivered new to World Airways in 1967. Leased to JAL, PSA and Domincana at various times. Scrapped MIA in 1992.

I was a pilot for World from 1981 to 1986. Ken Healy, the captain of the Da Nang flight was V.P. flight operations during my tenure

As new hire pilots, they showed us the CBS broadcast of the Da Nang flight as an example of what might be expected of us as World Airways crew. Never had to do anything that exciting! It was a great company and I'm proud to have flown there.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:06 pm

I really hope some charter airline or VIP picks up those PAX MD-11s. It would be a shame to not have at least one PAX MD-11 left existing.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:29 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 33):
Quoting ozark1 (Reply 32):
If anyone has details of this incredible flight that they would like to share it would be appreciated.

Earlier in this thread, this video was linked:

http://youtu.be/pzcWZ7j1iTg

39 years ago today!
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:16 pm

Quoting JohnGalt (Reply 60):

Just heard from a source in the know that North American is pulling nearly all crews back to the US and will more than likely be going down to a one-aircraft operation with a second aircraft as a spare to a high-priority contract.

Based in IAD...1 guess as to the customer.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:58 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 66):
Anyone have any idea what was the Registration No. on the last flight out of Danang was?
Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 68):
N691WA, delivered new to World Airways in 1967. Leased to JAL, PSA and Domincana at various times. Scrapped MIA in 1992.

Many other sources say it was N692WA.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:43 am

Quoting tymnbalewne (Reply 70):
39 years ago today!

What was the exact number of people that made it out on that 727? I heard it was near 300
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:53 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 72):
Many other sources say it was N692WA.

I have a nice little book "The 727 Boeingscrapbook" by Len and Terry Morgan. It has the same in-flight picture that's further up this thread with the leg sticking out from the main gear door but it's not as cropped, showing the lower half of the N-number. It's clearly N691WA.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:54 am

I miss seeing their MD11sfly into IAH. I remember vividly one day before high school swim practice seeing the MD11 flying with a spectre-like condensation coming from the wings.

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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:34 am

As someone less familiar with charters and/or cargo, it seems that with the demise of TZ, EZ, RD, WO, and potentially NA a lot of experience in the charter market is disappearing quickly. Is there any way to reverse the bleeding?

I always stop by the Atlas 747 in IAH when I have spare time and have seen a number of NA planes throughout Europe by coincidence. I always thought these airlines are admirable due to the fact that they fly routes the legacies wouldn't consider (outside of their own charters) and sometimes manage to sustain these routes over many years in spite of not having the same brand recognition as UA, DL and AA. It would be nice to see the remaining players becoming stronger again instead of falling like a house of cards.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:51 am

I know of World Airways and I have seen NA at LAX back in 92, was World Airways like a legecy airline, did it have a scheduled domestic network and an International network like DL and UA and AA? How much time did their AC spend on the tarmac between flights ? The couple of times I have been to LAX in the 80s and 90s I never saw a dedicated terminal for WO so what was their main operations?
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:01 am

Quoting malaysia (Reply 73):
What was the exact number of people that made it out on that 727? I heard it was near 300

ULCC from hell, all kidding aside, that is an amzing story that always mekes my heart race, I can not even imagine what hell that experience was for all involved. Thank God for brave people who make things happen for the rest of us who go along for the ride.

Quoting ua900 (Reply 76):
As someone less familiar with charters and/or cargo, it seems that with the demise of TZ, EZ, RD, WO, and potentially NA a lot of experience in the charter market is disappearing quickly. Is there any way to reverse the bleeding?

I think many of these companies got used to the regular checks from the US government, Their fleets were obligated to Uncle Sam for so long, that they did not properly stay diversified enough to survive the loss of their main business.

One could argue that the government is responsible for the demise of these companies, but solid work for a decade or two transporting hundreds of thousands of troops halfway around the world and back every day for decades on the publics dime is a very good run, they should have had enough other options lined up for their planes as the government work ended.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:39 am

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 77):
was World Airways like a legecy airline, did it have a scheduled domestic network and an International network like DL and UA and AA?

World wasn't a scheduled airline per se. It was a 'supplemental' or charter airline providing ACMI capacity. However, in 1979 it started to offer scheduled charter flights like OAK-EWR; BWI-LAX; EWR-LAX as well as BWI-FRA/LGW, all with DC-10s. They also started flights from MCI with 727s that connected with those going to Europe or HNL from OAK. Due to mounting losses, all this came to an abrupt end in September 1986.

Edit: They started scheduled service again in 1994 with non-stop flights between JFK or EWR and TLV and direct service between New York and JNB with a fuel stop at SID. These lasted only a couple of years.


Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 72):
Many other sources say it was N692WA.
Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 74):
I have a nice little book "The 727 Boeingscrapbook" by Len and Terry Morgan. It has the same in-flight picture that's further up this thread with the leg sticking out from the main gear door but it's not as cropped, showing the lower half of the N-number. It's clearly N691WA.

I dpn't have that book but I still have the report about WO published in Airways June 1998. In it is the famous inflight picture of the 727 where the tail air intake is clearly visible with N691WA written on it.



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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:41 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 78):
ULCC from hell, all kidding aside, that is an amzing story that always mekes my heart race, I can not even imagine what hell that experience was for all involved. Thank God for brave people who make things happen for the rest of us who go along for the ride.

Well more women and children could have made it, but they got pushed out of the way on the way to the plane.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:54 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 79):
World wasn't a scheduled airline per se. It was a 'supplemental' or charter airline providing ACMI capacity. However, in 1979 it started to offer scheduled charter flights like OAK-EWR; BWI-LAX; EWR-LAX as well as BWI-FRA/LGW, all with DC-10s. They also started flights from MCI with 727s that connected with those going to Europe or HNL from OAK. Due to mounting losses, all this came to an abrupt end in September 1986.

Not correct - they were not "scheduled charter flights" but regular scheduled passenger service, complete with World ticket counters and reservation center, staffed by WO employees. We even had George Burns as a TV spokesman!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwHpKIg-sc
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:20 pm

This makes Bangor, Maine about 80% less interesting. A sad development, following on the heels of Evergreen and others since and still to come. Good people & Good airplanes, now displaced.

Right now, today, U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND 1556 ('Camber'), a 777-200, is flying from Kuwait to Bangor, Maine. I have no idea about this carrier, but I can't help but believe this is a troop charter in place of what World would normally do.

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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:42 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 82):
Right now, today, U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND 1556 ('Camber'), a 777-200, is flying from Kuwait to Bangor, Maine. I have no idea about this carrier, but I can't help but believe this is a troop charter in place of what World would normally do.

AMC charter, likely Omni.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:52 pm

Alright. Since World Airways is no more, I took some time today to gather data regarding its jetliners fleet over the decades from its first B707 in 1963 up to its last aircraft when it shut down. All this is based on what's available at airlinerlist.com and A.net.


Boeing 707

N368WA.....-373C.....19716./.644.....NOV67 - MAR76

N369WA.....-373C.....19715./.642.....NOV67 - SEP73

N370WA.....-373C.....19442./.609.....AUG67 - JUN71

N371WA.....-373C.....19441./.548.....DEC66 - JUN71

N372WA.....-373C.....19179./.500.....MAY66 - JUL74

N373WA.....-373C.....18582./.344.....JUL63 - AUG73

N374WA.....-373C.....18583./.346.....AUG63 - AUG73

N375WA.....-373C.....18707./.349.....SEP63 - FEB71

N376WA.....-373C.....18991./.450.....OCT65 - JUN71

N702PA.....-331........17677./.80.......JUL73 - NOV73......leased from Pan Am

N704PA.....-331........17683./.116.....MAY72 - DEC72.....leased from Pan Am

N705PA.....-331........17686./.124.....MAY72 - OCT72.....leased from Pan Am

N706PA.....-331........17689./.136.....JUN73 - JUL73.......leased from Pan Am


Boeing 727

N690WA.....-173C.....19504./.427.....JUL67 - DEC79

N691WA.....-173C.....19505./.432.....JUL67 - JUL77

N692WA.....-173C.....19506./.447.....AUG67 - OCT77

N693WA.....-173C.....19507./.449.....SEP67 - MAR80

N694WA.....-173C.....19508./.457.....SEP67 - JAN74

N695WA.....-173C.....19509./.459.....SEP67 - SEP74

N696WA.....-29C.......19987./.634.....APR76 - DEC79.....Operated for Yemenia

N531EJ......-155C......19619./.470.....JUL69 - JUN71.......Leased from Executive Jet Avt

N726JE......-114........19815./.443.....OCT85 - APR86.....Sub-leased from Skybus

N727Z........-95..........19249./.304.....OCT85 - MAR86....Sub-leased from Skybus

N1187Z......-22..........18323./.136.....JAN86 - APR86.....Sub-leased from Skybus

N1973........-23..........18429./.26......JUN85 - MAY86.....Sub-leased from Skybus

N1979........-23..........18435./.51......MAY85 - MAR86....Sub-leased from Skybus

N407BN.....-291........19992./.526....APR86 - OCT86.....Sub-leased from Skybus

N408BN.....-291........19993./.549....MAR86 - SEP86....Sub-leased from Skybus

N545PS.....-214........20169./.743....APR86 - MAY87....Sub-leased from Skybus



Boeing 747

N740WA.....-4H6(BDSF).....25700./.974.....MAR08 - NOV13

N741WA.....-4H6(BDSF).....25702./.999.....NOV08 - FEB12

N742WA.....-412(BDSF).....27071./.1072...MAR11 - NOV13

N743WA.....-412(BDSF).....26562./.1074...JAN11- JUN12

N747WR.....-273C.....20651./.209.....APR73 - MAR86.....ex. N747WA

N748WA.....-273C.....20652./.211.....MAY73 - NOV83

N749WA.....-273C.....20653./.237.....JUN74 - MAY87

N750WA.....-124(SF).....19733./.42.....FEB78 - JUL86


Douglas DC-8

N801WA.....-63CF.....46133./.534.....MAR71 - AUG84

N802WA.....-63CF.....46146./.536.....MAR71 - SEP73.....Crashed at Cold Bay, AK.

N803WA.....-63CF.....46149./.538.....MAR71 - DEC79

N804WA.....-63CF.....46137./.527.....DEC72 - FEB82

N805WA.....-63CF.....46143./.547.....APR73 - FEB82

N806WA.....-63CF.....46145./.548.....DEC72 - OCT83

N911CL.......-61.........45981./.352.....NOV75 - JAN76.....Leased from Capitol

N974FT.......-63CF.....46086./.478.....NOV75 - MAY76....Leased from Flying Tigers


Most of these aircraft were often either operated for or leased to other companies for variable time durations.

To follow in another post, the even larger DC-10 and MD-11 fleets data.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:35 pm

The follow up to my previous post regarding World Airways' fleet over the decades.


McDonnell Douglas DC-10

N102UA......-10.....46905./.47.......MAY88 - DEC88

N102UA......-10.....46905./.47.......DEC89 - AUG91

N104WA.....-10.....46727./.83.......MAY90 - APR92

N902JW......-10.....46905./.47.......MAR85 - SEP86.....Leased from Arrow Air

N902WA.....-10.....46928./.104.....MAR89 - FEB91

N904WA.....-10.....46930./.112.....MAR84 - NOV84

N905WA.....-10.....46938./.153.....MAR84 - OCT84

N916JW......-10.....46906./.50......OCT84 - SEP86

N917JW......-10.....46727./.83......NOV84 - SEP86.....Leased from Arrow Air

N1826U.......-10.....46625./.169....MAR86 - SEP86....Leased from United Airlines

N1827U.......-10.....46626./.198....APR86 - SEP86....Leased from United Airlines

N1828U.......-10.....46627./.205....APR86 - SEP86....Leased from United Airlines

N1829U.......-10.....46628./.207....MAY86 - SEP86....Leased from United Airlines

SE-DHX.......-10.....46645./.283....JUN89 - MAY91....Leased from Scanair

N591LF.......-10(F).....46973./.272....DEC93 - APR94

LN-RKC......-30.....47814./.315.....MAY91 - OCT91....Leased from SAS

N109WA.....-30.....46933./.159.....APR90 - SEP90

N114WA.....-30.....46999./.289.....APR92 - JUL93

N115WA.....-30.....47818./.305.....APR92 - JUL93

N117WA.....-30.....48318./.446.....APR95 - OCT01

N136WA.....-30.....47844./.336.....FEB08 - JUL10

N137WA.....-30.....48282./.355.....AUG08 - JAN11

N138WA.....-30.....47845./.356.....FEB08 - JAN11

N139WA.....-30(ER).....46583./.292.....AUG08 - MAY09 - Damaged on hard landing at BWI.

N14075.......-30.....46922./.221.....OCT00 -

N352WL.....-30.....47838./.338.....JUN01 - FEB05

N353WL.....-30.....48318./.446.....NOV02 - OCT04

OH-LHA.....-30.....47956./.181.....OCT94 - AUG95.....Leased from Finnair

OH-LHE.....-30.....46978./.256.....MAY92 - AUG92....Leased from Finnair

PP-VMX.....-30.....47845./.356.....APR94 - JUN94.....Leased from VARIG

PP-VMY.....-30.....48282./.355....APR94 - JUN94.....Leased from VARIG

YV-133C.....-30.....46555./.91......JUL83 - OCT83......Leased from VIASA

9M-MAS......-30.....46955./.228....MAR96 - JUL98.....Leased from MAS

9M-MAV......-30.....48283./.350....MAR96 - AUG98

9M-MAW.....-30.....46959./.234....JUN95 - JUN96.....Leased from MAS

9M-MAZ......-30.....46933./.159....DEC95 - DEC98

N103WA.....-30CF....46975./.248....MAR78 - APR86

N104WA.....-30CF....46986./.253....JUN78 - APR86

N105WA.....-30CF....46987./.255....AUG78 - APR86

N105WA.....-30CF....46891./.127....OCT88 - OCT93

N106WA.....-30CF....46835./.277....APR79 - AUG94

N107WA.....-30CF....46836./.280....MAY79 - JUN02

N108WA.....-30CF....46837./.282....MAY79 - JUL94

N109WA.....-30CF....47819./.314....APR80 - APR86

N112WA.....-30CF....47820./.317....MAY80 - SEP94

N113WA.....-30CF....47821./.320....MAY80 - JAN82.....Damaged beyond repair on landing at BOS.

N116WA.....-30CF....47906./.115....DEC94 - JUN95

PH-MBN......-30CF....46924./.218....APR92 - JUN92.....Leased from Martinair

PH-MBT......-30CF....46985./.264....JUN92 - JUL92......Leased from Martinair

N303WL.....-30(F).....46917./.211....JUL01 - OCT08

N304WL.....-30(F).....47928./.192....OCT01 -

N526MD.....-30(F).....46998./.267....APR01 - APR02

N541SA.....-30(F).....46541./.281....NOV00 - FEB04


McDonnell Douglas MD-11

N269WA.....P.....48450./.479.....SEP10 - FEB12

N270WA.....P.....48449./.455.....JUL09 - FEB12

N271WA.....P.....48518./.525.....MAR93 - MAR14

N272WA.....P.....48437./.506.....APR93 - MAR14

N273WA.....P.....48519./.539.....APR93 - NOV13

N274WA.....F.....48633./.563.....MAR94 - FEB12

N275WA.....CF/(F).....48631./.579.....MAR95 - JUL12.....Cvtd in 2002

N276WA.....CF/(F).....48632./.582.....MAR95 - APR12

N277WA.....ER.....48743./.590.....NOV95 - APR12

N278WA.....ER.....48746./.597.....MAR96 - JAN12

N279WA.....P/(F).....48756./.623.....MAY02 - MAR12.....Cvtd in 2006

N280WA.....P.....48458./.449.....APR93 - SEP97

N380WA.....(F).....48407./.456.....APR05 - MAY13

N381WA.....(F).....48523./.516.....MAY05 - JAN14

N382WA.....(F).....48411./.453.....DEC08 - FEB14

N383WA.....(F).....48412./.454.....NOV08 - NOV13

N384WA.....(F).....48435./.478.....SEP08 - APR12

N801DE.....P.....48472./.480.....DEC04 - DEC07

N803DE.....P.....48474./.485.....MAR03 - JUL08

N804DE.....P.....48475./.489.....NOV03 - FEB08


Most of these aircraft were often either operated for or leased to other companies for variable time durations or for the MAC.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:20 pm

N271WA is halfway on its journey between BWI and GYR.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N271WA
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:25 pm

Anyone get a video of the flyby in BWI?
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:53 pm

Flightaware is showing N742WA landed at Travis AFB 4 days ago and hasn't moved since. Anyone know what the plan is for it ?
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:46 pm

According to below story, North American "will attempt" to keep flying for the DoD using 2 of 4 763s. N767 and N768 to be kept while N760 and N764 will get returned. A cadre of 95 employees will be left.

However NA might shut down itself due to lack of funding for ongoing operations per court filing. In the mean North American is also being offered for sale BK


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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:18 pm

I think NA is screwed just like WO. The two 767's that there are keeping are dedicated for a run out of IAD for a ''client'' who has the aircraft in an all business class configuration. One aircraft flies, the other is the spare, and they are not allowed to send it out on other missions. I am sure that NA will be sold with the ''added value'' of flying the ''client''.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:28 pm

If you read the restructuring page for WO/NA - NA has to make a payment directly to Cerberus by today or the rest of the DIP financing will be under default.

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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:38 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 79):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 72):
Many other sources say it was N692WA.
Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 74):
I have a nice little book "The 727 Boeingscrapbook" by Len and Terry Morgan. It has the same in-flight picture that's further up this thread with the leg sticking out from the main gear door but it's not as cropped, showing the lower half of the N-number. It's clearly N691WA.

I dpn't have that book but I still have the report about WO published in Airways June 1998. In it is the famous inflight picture of the 727 where the tail air intake is clearly visible with N691WA written on it.

Thanks. Yes, I found the photo with enough of the N691WA registration visible. Maybe N692WA was the other World 727 that escorted the damaged aircraft into SGN. It appears in the Youtube video of that event from about 3:35 to 3:45.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzcWZ7j1iTg

Walter Cronkite refers to the 727 as a "jumbo jet" in the preamble to the CBS News report.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:20 am

My records show the following aircraft sitting around;

B747

N740WA
N742WA

DC10

N139WA
N14075
N352WL
N14075

MD11

N380WA
N382WA
N383WA
N272WA
N270WA
N269WA
N271WA
N273WA
N381WA
N275WA
N277WA

There seems little chance for the DC10's, but what about the B747's and MD11's.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:52 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 93):
DC10

N139WA
N14075
N352WL

139 was badly damaged at BWI and fly again. 14075 is reported as being scrapped while 352 was flown to GWO back in 2005. Many parts are missing.

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 93):
MD11

N380WA
N382WA
N383WA
N272WA
N270WA
N269WA
N271WA
N273WA
N381WA
N275WA
N277WA

N380WA is intended to be broken up at OST where it sits currently. 269 & 270 have been streeping of many parts and to be broken up (There are pictures on line). 275 & 277 have been sold to Unical Aviation, and from what I understand it is a spare parts provider...

Perhaps 381, 382 & 383 wil have more chance, like 384 and join another airline, like Western Global if it ever leaves the deck.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:48 am

N742 is scheduled SUU/MZJ this afternoon.

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bennett123
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:06 pm

Just re checked www.faa.gov

Surprised at report that N139WA flew again, they record as cancelled 15/07/2010. This would lead me to think that it is either stored or scrapped.

N14075 expired 21/05/2013. Can anyone help with a scrapping date.

N352WL expired 30/09/2011, surprised to find it is still at GWO.

N275WA/N277WA both cancelled 30/01/2014. I would tend to think they have been parted/scrapped. Confirmation appreciated.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:08 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 96):
Surprised at report that N139WA flew again, they record as cancelled 15/07/2010. This would lead me to think that it is either stored or scrapped


139WA never flew again. The forward bulkhead was cracked in its incident and it now sits in BWI where the airport uses it for training.
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:21 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 93):

My records show the following aircraft sitting around;

B747

N740WA
N742WA

...

There seems little chance for the DC10's, but what about the B747's and MD11's.

As for the Jumbo-Jets N740WA has been leased to Air Atlanta as TF-AMM just a week ago or so and is apparently going to fly for Saudia. N742WA is stored but being two years younger than 740 I am confident it´ll find another operator sooner or later.
 
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RE: World Airways Shuts Down

Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:53 pm

Sorry, I forgot about DC10 N705TZ, last noted at Marana on 24/05/2011. Still in ATA colours.

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