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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:59 pm

Just wondered if anyone is able to post a complete list of paint schemes for all the THY aircraft. I was at IST the other week and many aircraft still seem to be in the old colours, or hybrids between the new and old colour scheme.

[Edited 2014-04-10 11:00:19]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:43 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 49):
TKs first 9W A332 TC-JIL will start with inaugural service to BOM today. Cabin remained the same: 30J and 190Y. This will give TK some leverage on routes where their A332s are too Y heavy.

Wow! I am actually surprised with that.
Compared to TK's own 332s, this version has only 8 more J seats but this means 38 less Y seats.
The reason looks like the 1-1-1 herring bone J seating on the 9Ws.
Still these 9W J seats have 12" less pitch than the TK's own J seats.
Don't know what to make of this.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:52 pm

What s the latest on the remaining 2 A330 ex GF/ME. Any problems with the first aircraft delivered that chnanged TK's mind ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:50 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 51):
Still these 9W J seats have 12" less pitch than the TK's own J seats.
Don't know what to make of this.

I explain this to me logically due to the fact that TK does not have lie flat seats on their A332 while these new ones have it. So there is more space used by them in the J section. Also they have more toilets on the 9W birds. Nowadays, the largest increase comes from less toilets.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:12 am

 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:36 am

Turkish Airlines won 2014 advertising award for its Kobe vs. Messi selfie commercial.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turkis...nes-wins-most-viral-160200509.html

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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:41 am

Quoting Mict (Reply 54):
First images of the new airport?

Couple more pics here;
http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/n...n-istanbul-airport/8661289.article
It will be delayed I have a feeling. But those pics look great.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 55):
Turkish Airlines won 2014 advertising award for its Kobe vs. Messi selfie commercial.

137 million views, Wow!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:53 am

Nice designs. Rather clean look.


In other news TripAdvisor.com users have chosen Istanbul as the worlds best city to visit. Istanbul came in #1 on the Travelers' Choice Destinations beating out previous top cities like Rome and London.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/TravelersChoice-Destinations-cTop-g1

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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:58 pm

Looks like another TAM 332 arrived in IST on 09/04/2014 this time it's PT-MVM http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2 . Is there any reason why TK is leasing 332 instead of 333 or is it simple no 333 are available to lease ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:46 pm

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 58):
Is there any reason why TK is leasing 332 instead of 333 or is it simple no 333 are available to lease ?

Price and also range-wise it is more attractive than the A333s

TK want them to perform the former A340 destinations, where range of A330s are insufficient
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:52 pm

BTW, great news from the turkish civil aviation authority.

Turkey has signed a new service agreement doubling the number of frequencies between Turkey and Singapore to 14 weekly. I really expect TK to add another daily very quickly, since this is one of the higher yiedling markets of them.
Their newer A332 J heavy ex 9W bird would be ideal for the first couple of months.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:53 pm

according to airfleets.net, remaining 2 of GF birds went to Hi-Fly.
TC-JNV is the only pax 332 with RR engine, interesting mix right now.
Does any body know tech specification of TAMs 332s, gw, range etc and how is interior, flat bed BC , entertainment, etc
how is PW engines performance
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:16 pm

New interview with Hamdi Topcu and key remarks:

A340 will be phased out by the first half of 2015, one is going to remain as spare aircraft in its original configuration, while two more will be converted to charter configuration.

LOT 787 did not work out due to high price. Was considered to open new routes in the US.

Quantas A380s not taken up due to technical reasons.
A380 is still in consideration for long term.

17 WB will join this year, 90 WBs in total in the fleet by end of 2016
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:48 am

3rd ex Jet Airways A332 has been delivered on Friday (VT-JWN) with first flight in 2008. So that all 9W deliveries are complete by now.

3 more are to come from TAM Airlines and maybe 2 more ex Gulf Air frame. However, I hope the remaining Gulf-Air frame will not be delivered.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:31 pm

Read interview with head of Jazeera Airways.
Apparently they are moving from SAW to IST in May. Also frequency will increase from 3x weekly to 5x.
Jazeera says traffic demand between Kuwait and Turkey has increased 51% in 2013 alone and some 413% since they launched service to Istanbul in 2008.
He says while the carrier is happy at SAW, it believes the move to IST is important and will benefit clients who primarily visit Istanbul for vacations staying on the European side and help cement Turkey as one of the top leisure destinations from Kuwait.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 62):
A340 will be phased out by the first half of 2015, one is going to remain as spare aircraft in its original configuration, while two more will be converted to charter configuration.

We have repeatedly heard comments about such high density configuration. I think this could be a good utilization of the model and help improve its economics if they finally carry out such reconfiguration.

I also understand that the hard deadline to replace the A340s will be 2017 when some heavy checks are due, and when FANS-B navigation requirements are expanded and would require costly avionics investment if the aircraft continue to operate in some parts of the world.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:59 am

It seems as if TK is adding three more destinations in West Africa: Bamako, Conakry and Cotonou to be added from June, with Accra receiving a dedicated terminator service instead of the current triangular operation. I can see this move mainly affecting AF and SN.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:11 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 65):
with Accra receiving a dedicated terminator service instead of the current triangular operation. I can see this move mainly affecting AF and SN.

AFAIK, Accra is 3 X per week a terminator service. 4 X per week it's a triangular routing. So, overall the number of seats remains same. In addition, TK's service is really small with only 151 seats available each day. I don't see how they will affect anybody. Taking into consideration Turkeys increasing presence in Africa, TK should also be able to fill a decent amount of seats with O&D.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:21 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 66):
I don't see how they will affect anybody. Taking into consideration Turkeys increasing presence in Africa, TK should also be able to fill a decent amount of seats with O&D.

I was talking about the addition of Bamako, Conakry and Cotonou.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:46 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 64):

...great if they were able to get slots. In contrary, QR is actually adding capacity to Istanbul by serving SAW 4x weekly starting in May.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:58 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 67):
I was talking about the addition of Bamako, Conakry and Cotonou.


I think that is a valuable addition to the network. However, I am not sure about the security situation in Bamako. In particular, how they will perform the crew rest
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:42 pm

Does anyone know (a) how long more the TK lease of the Jet 777s is to continue (VT-JEM, 'JEN and 'JEP)? Are they flown anywhere other than LHR? They get them there pretty much every day ... and it is becoming rather boring!

Will the arrival of the new 777s allow them to be returned?

Quoting TK787 (Reply 10):
But the latest number show 4 77Ws this year, 7 in 2015, 6 in 2016 and 3 in 2017. Specific delivery dates I don't have.

The best sources of info are Planespotter.net's 777 production list site and Matt Cawby's KPAE log. He now shows line numbers for new 777 (up to 1202 now, while Planespotter.net only goes up to 1194. Just keep an eye out. At 8 aircraft a month, there is over sixty aircraft still to be delivered this year, so lots of time yet!

Quoting wing (Reply 25):
Now Its time to move on to A330/340 fleet.Different type of flying for sure.An interesting milestone in my Anet career also.I was a brand new B737 400 FO in the beginning of his career when I joined Anet,and the best part was Age 26-35 was selected on my profile

Congratulations, Wing! A magnificent achievement. With ten years on A32Xs behind you and an instructor's rating, I'm sure the A330/340 conversion course will be a breeze! How long does it take for current A32X pilots?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:34 pm

9W 777s do daily IST-BOM, daily IST-BKK in addition to the LHR runs.

[Edited 2014-04-15 15:36:39]
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:50 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 71):
The best sources of info are Planespotter.net's 777 production list site and Matt Cawby's KPAE log. He now shows line numbers for new 777 (up to 1202 now, while Planespotter.net only goes up to 1194. Just keep an eye out. At 8 aircraft a month, there is over sixty aircraft still to be delivered this year, so lots of time yet!

The first two 777-300ERs for TK will be delivered in June. I think the 9W birds start leaving in June.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:42 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 72):

Are those the ones without Comfort class?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:37 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 73):
Are those the ones without Comfort class?

Yes, they will be in 2 class configuration only.

IST is now Europe's 3rd largest airport behind LHR and CDG, passing FRA and the likes. Pretty amazing...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:05 pm

9W 777s are in the schedule through mid October.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:38 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 75):
9W 777s are in the schedule through mid October.

That is really good, since they can take advantage of the summer season.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:04 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 68):
...great if they were able to get slots. In contrary, QR is actually adding capacity to Istanbul by serving SAW 4x weekly starting in May.

Seems like they received them. Move to IST is scheduled May 2nd per press release.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2372213&Language=en

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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:19 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 77):
Seems like they received them. Move to IST is scheduled May 2nd per press release.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetail...ge=en

amazing how much the traffic between Turkey and Kuwait increased in recent years!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:45 pm

Quoting tk1244 (Reply 2):
Most of the flights to ISB have a Urdu speaking FA on board. My Pakistani friends are happy with that
Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 74):
IST is now Europe's 3rd largest airport behind LHR and CDG, passing FRA and the likes. Pretty amazing...

Yeah, having spoken to a number of Persians they are going back to Iran in huge numbers this spring/summer and virtually everyone has abandoned Lufthansa for TK. I can't imagine anyone sticking with LH anymore which used to be the preferred carrier. The tickets can be booked from inside/outside Iran either in Rials or Dollars and are cheaper vs LH (like 40%). There is no 24 visa issue in Turkey for Iran passport holders (unlike there is in Doha with Qatar airlines) as they get a 30 day one on arrival. Emirates is fine but pricier and has much longer layovers in Dubai (7-10 hr).

So TK has basically clobbered any European or Arab carriers going into Iran in a very short period. Iranians are all happy with the very respectable service given to them and as an added bonus some of us can speak Azeri to them.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:54 pm

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 79):
Yeah, having spoken to a number of Persians they are going back to Iran in huge numbers this spring/summer and virtually everyone has abandoned Lufthansa for TK. I can't imagine anyone sticking with LH anymore which used to be the preferred carrier. The tickets can be booked from inside/outside Iran either in Rials or Dollars and are cheaper vs LH (like 40%). There is no 24 visa issue in Turkey for Iran passport holders (unlike there is in Doha with Qatar airlines) as they get a 30 day one on arrival. Emirates is fine but pricier and has much longer layovers in Dubai (7-10 hr).

So TK has basically clobbered any European or Arab carriers going into Iran in a very short period. Iranians are all happy with the very respectable service given to them and as an added bonus some of us can speak Azeri to them.

on top of that they are not only sticking to IKA, but also serve five other destinations (TBZ, IFN, MHD, SYZ and KSH). this gives more options for the big Iranian community in LA region.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:24 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 80):
on top of that they are not only sticking to IKA, but also serve five other destinations (TBZ, IFN, MHD, SYZ and KSH). this gives more options for the big Iranian community in LA region.

Hah, as soon as I clicked submit I thought of that. That's 100% correct and for a time they were actually flying to Urmia as well. The air service Turkey is providing has reconnected Iran in a way not seen since before the revolution and the Turks actually completed and built IKA which is a very nice airport. It's been great and I hope Azerbaijan can join the party too. I doubt Iran air will ever get the planes or landing rights to compete with TK anytime soon so they should continue to do well.

Another added bonus is that luggage/customs screening when arriving on TK flight is minimal if anything. Its when you landed at IKA arriving on the Lufthansa, Air France or British Airways flights you got grilled like you were a Mossad spy. On TK arrivals it's just a stamp and a hello.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:07 pm

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 81):
they were actually flying to Urmia

That was Onur Air, not TK
Flown 0B 4I 9U A3 AA AB AF AZ BA BD BR CA CU CX EI EK FR HV JK JP JU KK KL KM LH LX MA ME MS NG OA OK QR OS RJ RO SA SK SQ SR SU UA VY YM
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:54 pm

Quoting TurkishSky (Reply 82):
That was Onur Air, not TK

Oh ok. Tabriz is only 90 min away so that makes some sense but Urmia has a surprisingly nice airport for a smaller city.

The Star alliance membership for TK isn't too shabby either.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:28 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 70):
Congratulations, Wing! A magnificent achievement. With ten years on A32Xs behind you and an instructor's rating, I'm sure the A330/340 conversion course will be a breeze! How long does it take for current A32X pilots?

It takes 5 days of ground school and 5 sessions of simulator flight and 5 sectors of line flight under supervision for route competency.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:54 pm

I will be the Captain tomorrow for TK 1983 19:10 departure from IST-LHR (Saturday the 19th) if anyone is looking to meet or say hi  
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:50 pm

Tomorrow I'll be flying on TK 3866, a chartered flight from ESB to DOH, together with Minister of Economy and his delegation. This is my 3rd tour with such a delegation. On sunday we will return back probably with the same plane and TK stuff. These official delegation visits are always interesting as you mostly never see a passport control. It is (probably as has been with my previous experience) an all business class flight with 2+2 sitting.

But when the minister takes over F/A microphone to give a long speech during the flight, that's the most I enjoy.  
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:34 pm

hi pilot aydin,
nice to see u @ a.net
any news /rumor at TK for 787/350 purchase or VLA
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:32 pm

one question to our pilot friends:
does a pilot with type rating flies all series? as an example
does a pilot with A330 @ TK flies 332,333 and 340?
and a a32x, flies 319,320 and 321
and finally b737 captain flies 737,738,739
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:33 pm

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 88):
oes a pilot with A330 @ TK flies 332,333 and 340?

Yes

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 88):
and a a32x, flies 319,320 and 321

Yes

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 88):
nd finally b737 captain flies 737,738,739

And Yes  

Infact Legally An A 330 type rated pilot can fly with 332,333,319,320 and 321.Thats called mixed fleet flying.We have this in our legal documents but at the moment it is not being used.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:17 pm

I wonder how the lounge situation is like in TLV, since this is one of the most valuable markets for them. Does TK have plans to open a lounge à la Moscow recently?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:40 pm

it seems that Spanish authorities did not allow TC-JNV to fly yesterday, does any body know the reason
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:08 pm

It looks like TK has a new commercial airing on all TV channels in Turkey, Wednesday night at 9pm.
#hayaledince
Here is the teaser;
http://www.izlesene.com/video/hayal-edince/7348647
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:46 pm

For anyone booking or planning award tickets, TK and US Airways will end their codeshares and reciprocal mileage benefits on July 31, 2014.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 90):
I wonder how the lounge situation is like in TLV, since this is one of the most valuable markets for them. Does TK have plans to open a lounge à la Moscow recently?

TK (along with most Star Alliance partners) use the two generic but nice Dan Lounge at TLV.
I don't see TK building a separate facility due to space issues and more importantly the fact TLV is not exactly a high yield market for TK. Yes lots of passengers, but not as big segment of premium flyers like what Moscow generates.

Anyhow - the next planned lounge is JFK, with European points like LHR, CDG, FRA and MXP also in the cards.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 92):
It looks like TK has a new commercial airing on all TV channels in Turkey

Look forward to seeing full version.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:46 pm

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 91):
it seems that Spanish authorities did not allow TC-JNV to fly yesterday, does any body know the reason

Not correct, the aircraft had a delay due to technical reasons but nothing to do with authorities.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:08 pm

Latest additions to the TK fleet inlcude;
TC-JMN A321
TC-JOB A333
and
TC-JVC 738 made its first flight April20, to be delivered soon.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:24 am

I still collect these 1/500 scale models;
For all those collectors; Herpa keeps realeasing more TK planes;
http://www.herpa.de/collect/(S(xcu5c...s=20&sk_label_e=Turkish%20Airlines
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:04 pm

Does anyone know how TK is doing on the RTM route?

Quoting TK787 (Reply 96):
I still collect these 1/500 scale models;

They finally start to release more in 1:200 scale either  
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:08 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 95):
Latest additions to the TK fleet inlcude;
TC-JMN A321
TC-JOB A333
and
TC-JVC 738 made its first flight April20, to be delivered soon.

Amazing growth continues..
Unbelievable large number of WB added within the last 2-3 months.

Where do they all go to is the question...
Answer is that many short haul flights are now operated by WB. Today 3 X WB to TLV.
The single 9W A332 is deployed to pretty much everywhere these days.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2014

Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:22 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 98):
The single 9W A332 is deployed to pretty much everywhere these days.

If flies TK1857/8 IST-MAD-IST and as of next Monday TK1853/4 IST-BCN-IST
BRGDS, Mike

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