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Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:28 am

Good morning folks and welcome to our fourth thread of the year; apologies for letting the last one drift a bit, but I was travelling for the past few days and am finally at home.

Here's the link to the last thread, if anyone wants to refer back: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring (by kaitak Mar 1 2014 in Civil Aviation)

So, to sum up a few events of the last few weeks:

- No industrial action at DAA/Aer Lingus
- Ryanair starts new advertising campaign, with new "kinder, softer" Ryanair features, such as free extra bag. New website launched too, and several new routes from Dublin
- Aer Lingus's third 757 starts services; SFO service starts (not with 757s!)
- Aer Lingus now has ten transatlantic aircraft ... a far cry from years gone by!
- Increased profits for Etihad ... and increased shareholding in Aer Lingus
- Aer Arann is now Stobart Air ... new relationship with BE, for flights ex-SEN.
- Aer Lingus Regional launches SNN-BRS
- New business for Dublin Aerospace

Looks like it's going to be a good Summer!

Finally, can I offer - on behalf of all of us - deepest condolences to the family and friends of a deceased moderator, SA7700, who was a decent and friendly guy. Forever blue skies ...
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:32 am

Over the last few weeks and months EI has been promoting the new YYZ service (quite rightly) on social media - they are now even on Snapchat. But on their latest video posted on Facebook, Stephen Kavanagh states that DUB-YYZ is EI's first direct service to Canada. Some of us may know that this is incorrect as EI flew to Montréal in 1966.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:09 pm

EI - EDY doing the 108 today just about to land after a near 5 hour delay ! Ouch ...
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:03 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 1):

Re: 1st Canadian destination, quite right AmricanShamrok. I picked up on it straight away. Should Aer Lingus' back room team not be on the ball on this one? Or is it a case of the flight was nearly 50 years ago and not being able to say "1st Canadian destination" for the Toronto launch be a bit of a let down? Wasn't this flight a stop off on the way to Chicago? Or am I mistaken? How long did it last for?

Have Aer Lingus completely reprinted all of the 757's now?

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Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:12 pm

Quoting KIRFlyer (Reply 3):
Wasn't this flight a stop off on the way to Chicago?

It was indeed. It was operated by the 720/707 routing DUB-SNN-YUL-ORD. I don't think it lasted very long (maybe a year or two) and then I believe SNN-DUB-ORD was relaunched some time later with the 741. I am fairly sure EI never operated SNN-ORD nonstop prior to 2001.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:34 pm

Quoting KIRFlyer (Reply 3):
Have Aer Lingus completely reprinted all of the 757's now?

Yup....all 3 now in the normal livery. EI-LBR got finished about 10 days ago
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:54 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 1):
as EI flew to Montréal

Indeed they did. Probably ORD direct was beyond the range of the 720 in some conditions.
Memory of historic events in Irish aviation history seems very rooted in the short term and of course no one now works for EI who remembers the previous service.
As for EI services to Scandinavia, well these are regularly reported as being new when the previous terminated service only finished a few years ago.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 6):
Memory of historic events in Irish aviation history seems very rooted in the short term and of course no one now works for EI who remembers the previous service.

Its funny as the guy interviewed who made the statement has actually been in EI at least 25 years. He would have started working with people who had all those me mores of the '70's and 80's.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:36 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 7):

A case of not knowing your product knowledge and not checking ones archives! Still its hardly a shock these days. Attention to detail is lacking in many industries!
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:54 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 6):
Indeed they did. Probably ORD direct was beyond the range of the 720 in some conditions.

Did they actually fly the 720 to ORD? I thought that would have been 707s; the YUL/ORD service started in 1966, by which time the 720s were being leased out to other carriers and they were trying to standardise on 707s.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:59 pm

In the 1980s, EI also flew charters to YYZ. Can't remember what year though. I think it might have been 85, I have vague memories of my Mam flying with EI to visit relations in Canada.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:01 pm

I recall both Christoph Mueller and the social media team mentioning the Montreal service recently so to say nobody remembers the history of the airline or of Irish aviation in general is a little unfair. The video was for promotional reasons, full of PR fluff with little time for reciting historical facts, "first Canadian service" sounds a lot more significant than, "first time since we flew years ago but dropped it because planes got better" doesn't it?

Another example is the fanfare SFO received, technically it's just the restarting of a previous service with the same aircraft and similar frequency but the promotional push behind it was important. Only Christoph Mueller actually mentioned the route wasn't brand new, probably because it was only five years ago but if it was fifty years ago I doubt it would have been brought up at all.

Maybe because I work in marketing I see it that way.   
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:20 pm

In the mean time FR is advertising on Dublin Bus. Pretty plain and simple but still getting the message out in a different kind of advertising. Nice sunny day in DUB today which Im sure you all enjoyed ( those based here that is ). Plenty of contrails in the blue sky viewed from St Stephens Green which was packed.

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/FRADBUS_zpse59a5d59.jpg

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Flybe have launched a promo for NI based customers who sign up to their Flybe card they get a free flight!

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Senior jobs going at City of Derry Airport

Nine senior positions within City of Derry Airport are being done away with, it was confirmed today.

Voluntary redundancies are now being sought among the top tier of people employed at the airport, with four high-level employees still to go.

http://www.derryjournal.com/news/bus...at-city-of-derry-airport-1-6002493

Major changes at LDY over the next 12 months. Hopefully they can do something to turn around the future of the airport.
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:57 pm

Aer Lingus flew seasonal Boeing 707 service from 1966-1980 DUB-SNN-YUL-ORD. Montreal & Chicago were discontinued in the fall of 1980. Service was 1-2 days a week depending on the period. In Chicago, the old international terminal (where terminal 1 now stands) was used.

Aer Lingus flew seasonal Boeing 747 service from 1989-1991 DUB-SNN-BOS-ORD. Occasionally in this period there was a weekly nonstop SNN-ORD. The service was 1-3 days a week depending on the period. The temporary international terminal 4 was used in ORD.

Aer Lingus returned to ORD in the spring of 1996 with the A330-300 operating SNN-DUB-ORD. Aer Lingus service has been continuous since 1996. Frequencies have varied from several times per week in winter to 11 weekly frequencies in summer. The SNN-ORD leg was nonstop several days per week in various summer seasons (2001, 2004, 2009). Terminal 5 in ORD has been the home ever since.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 11):
The video was for promotional reasons, full of PR fluff with little time for reciting historical facts, "first Canadian service" sounds a lot more significant than, "first time since we flew years ago but dropped it because planes got better" doesn't it?

I think absolute accuracy and credibility are important, especially in the case of a globally-recognised firm like EI. Kavanagh could have said "our first ever direct service to Toronto" instead of "our first ever direct service to Canada" without comprimising the PR fluff.

Quoting TWAL1011 (Reply 13):

Thanks a lot for this. SNN-ORD is an important route for me so it's good to have the full history of it from "before my time"  
 
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:29 pm

Quoting TWAL1011 (Reply 13):
Aer Lingus flew seasonal Boeing 747 service from 1989-1991 DUB-SNN-BOS-ORD. Occasionally in this period there was a weekly nonstop SNN-ORD. The service was 1-3 days a week depending on the period. The temporary international terminal 4 was used in ORD.

I remember that well; I went over to Chicago when I was a student, in the Summer of 1990; we went DUB-SNN-BOS-ORD both ways. It was a great trip. I remember that in those days that although the Premier cabin went back into the second cabin, this was used for Economy, so if you were on the ball (which I was!), you could get the Business Class seats!

They planned to operate 767s in the Summer of 1991 (I still have the Summer timetable for 1991 with 767s scheduled), but of course that never happened and unfortunately, the 767s became a debacle for Aer Lingus. Thankfully, with the arrival of the 330s, ORD was reintroduced and now, it's well established after nearly eighteen years of operation.
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:53 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Senior jobs going at City of Derry Airport

Not directly related but locally relevant is the report that the Lough Swilly Bus Company is supposed to close on Friday.
It is the oldest "railway" undertaking in the British Isles, although it has been a long time since it gave up railways for bus services in Derry / Donegal.


Any word of what is the situation for Galway Airport, any usage at all for general aviation purposes now or is it completely dead?
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:19 am

EI also used to operate seasonal charters from BFS to YYZ during the troubles!!!!
My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:12 am

A new style of Ad campaign for Aer Lingus out of Northern Ireland. This to promote the current £0 fares just pay taxes and charges on BHD-LHR / BHD-LGW .


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An archive here 1st B747 flight DUB-JFK :





http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0415...lin-to-new-york-by-jumbo-jet-1971/

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Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:43 am

Someone familiar with the layout of MAN T1 and LHR T1 may be able to help me here.

I am currently in the early stages of a "feasibility study" into undertaking six flights in a day; something similar to this one a few years back:
Aer Lingus - 6 Flights Into/Out Of LHR In One Day! (by EIDAA Jun 17 2009 in Trip Reports)

This involves rather tight connections at MAN (arriving on RE3600 at 08:20 and departing on RE3720 at 09:05) and LHR (arriving on EI702 at 13:05 and departing on EI165 at 14:15). Assuming I check-in online and all flights run on time, is it doable?
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:17 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):
This involves rather tight connections at MAN (arriving on RE3600 at 08:20 and departing on RE3720 at 09:05) and LHR (arriving on EI702 at 13:05 and departing on EI165 at 14:15). Assuming I check-in online and all flights run on time, is it doable?

What is punctuality like with RE ? Do they pad their schedules to mop up small delays?

Maybe you could spot check the MAN website for a few days to check the actual arrival of that flight to see if it gets in early.
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:49 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):
arriving on RE3600 at 08:20 and departing on RE3720 at 09:05

Optimistic.
Gate to gate transfers could be tricky here.
Have a look also at the gates used at MAN on the website by RE, would not surprise me if you go a long way back, to do a security check and then retrace your steps.
 
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Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:07 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):

Arriving pax at MAN must be bussed to the terminal, time from stand to baggage reclaim is 10-15 mins depending on load. Much will be depend on the queue at security screening, not entirely sure how busy it is at that hour. GC members can use the fast lane, this may also be available for purchase? Worth checking out.

The flight seldom arrives early from experience.

It's an ambitious target, but not impossible!
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:22 am

Aer Lingus pilots to use iPads instead of in-flight paperwork

AER Lingus pilots are to ditch paper-based flight documentation and replace it with iPads in a deal worth up to €300,000. The airline has ordered 500 high-end iPad Air tablets, worth €600 each, to give pilots access to weather charts, flight planning schedules and other information crucial to their job.

http://www.independent.ie/business/t...f-inflight-paperwork-30193089.html

Also notes the plans for wifi on the short haul fleet but doesn't state a timescale, no doubt a bigger job than the 7 A330s.
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:13 am

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):
This involves rather tight connections at MAN (arriving on RE3600 at 08:20 and departing on RE3720 at 09:05) and LHR (arriving on EI702 at 13:05 and departing on EI165 at 14:15). Assuming I check-in online and all flights run on time, is it doable?

Very tight but go for it anyway for the craic   MCT is 40 mins so someone must have done it sometime  
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:26 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 23):
The airline has ordered 500 high-end iPad Air tablets, worth €600 each,

I doubt they paid full tag price for them.....just like buying aircraft!
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:42 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 20):
Quoting dstc47 (Reply 21):
Quoting EI320 (Reply 22):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):

Thanks for all your input. I'll keep reviewing my options and let ye know how I get on!

Regarding EI in-flight Wi-Fi, it's a bit frustrating that the shorthaul fleet is being fitted out with it before the 757s. Also, the 757s still have "some restrictions" when it comes to electronic use onboard. Personally this (the lack of Wi-Fi moreso than the electronic restrictions) would put me off taking a transatlantic flight with EI when I can choose the likes of DL (and soon, UA). Of course, if the price of the flight with EI was right it might be of some comfort to me and I would book with them  
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:57 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 25):

They are getting those bulk units at a substantial discount along with a maintanance contract extension!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 26):

The shorthaul wifi is taking ages when you compare it to other airlines. It seems ages since it was announced and indeed since I was one of the first to trial it on the A330 a year ago. They will be lucky to have 2-3 shorthaul adapted this year if we are lucky!
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:00 pm

I'd assume Stobart Air and Air Contractors would have to get their own certification to allow gate-to-gate PED use while an agreement between Air Contractors and Aer Lingus would need to be reached on costs for installing wifi, the messy side of franchises and damp leasing!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 27):
The shorthaul wifi is taking ages when you compare it to other airlines. It seems ages since it was announced and indeed since I was one of the first to trial it on the A330 a year ago. They will be lucky to have 2-3 shorthaul adapted this year if we are lucky!

LiveTV and Eutelsat Communications only signed their deal in January and the first certified aircraft was/is expected in the first half of the year. Aer Lingus being the launch customer for them must mean the process takes longer than an "off the shelf" wifi provider.

In terms of the service expected, Eutelsat say it will offer passengers "top-quality Internet access, video streaming and GSM services via tablets, smartphones and laptops" so they'd want to deliver it right.

What other airlines offer wifi in Europe apart from Norwegian? I've had four flights with them recently but unfortunately none of the aircraft had the wifi installed, 6 months after delivery was apparently still too early.
 
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Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:14 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 26):
Regarding EI in-flight Wi-Fi, it's a bit frustrating that the shorthaul fleet is being fitted out with it before the 757s. Also, the 757s still have "some restrictions" when it comes to electronic use onboard. Personally this (the lack of Wi-Fi moreso than the electronic restrictions) would put me off taking a transatlantic flight with EI when I can choose the likes of DL (and soon, UA). Of course, if the price of the flight with EI was right it might be of some comfort to me and I would book with them  
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 28):
I'd assume Stobart Air and Air Contractors would have to get their own certification to allow gate-to-gate PED use while an agreement between Air Contractors and Aer Lingus would need to be reached on costs for installing wifi, the messy side of franchises and damp leasing!

I guess the install and certification costs on the B757's are maybe not worth it for a 3 year operation.
 
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Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:54 am

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 28):
LiveTV and Eutelsat Communications only signed their deal in January and the first certified aircraft was/is expected in the first half of the year. Aer Lingus being the launch customer for them must mean the process takes longer than an "off the shelf" wifi provider.

In terms of the service expected, Eutelsat say it will offer passengers "top-quality Internet access, video streaming and GSM services via tablets, smartphones and laptops" so they'd want to deliver it right.

So it seems like it will be a long process then! As in fact it was due last year !Do you have a link/source that states the schedule for installing them? Lets also hope that it doesn't turn out like the A330s (Panasonic system ) where it had to be turned off for months due to safety concerns.

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Wednesday 12 December 2012

Aer Lingus is to introduce high-speed internet access on all short-haul flights next year.

The airline says its been investigating ways to bring Wi-Fi facilities to its customers for some time.

Passenger feedback suggests it is top of their wish-list when they fly.

The new service will be launched mid 2013 and will be available on Aer Lingus short-haul fleet including Airbus A319/A320 and A321.

http://www.newstalk.ie/Aer-Lingus-to-offer-Wi-Fi-to-passengers-in-2013
 
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Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:47 pm

Seems the EIR model is working for Aer Lingus operations and also reinforces the importance of the British routes for Ireland and Aer Lingus.

Stobart Air reports another jump in passenger numbers
Company which operates Aer Lingus Regional flies 94,242 passengers last month
Passenger numbers for Aer Lingus Regional , which is now operated by Stobart Air, rose by 9 per cent in March - marking the company’s ninth consecutive month of growth.
Stobart, known formerly as Aer Arann, said it flew 94,242 passengers last month, up from 86,610 for the same period last year.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...ers-1.1766570#.U1EUYgKpwkE.twitter
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:54 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 30):
Do you have a link/source that states the schedule for installing them?

The most recent information I could find is from Runway Girl in January.

http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/201...ves-aer-lingus-close-to-a320-wifi/

Also has a few details on the type of service Eutelsat 'Air Access' will provide but no timescale, assuming this is because it's all hinged on the EASA certification before installations can begin.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:52 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 31):

While the regional feed is important, are the current numbers on shorthaul a worry?
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:17 am

Quoting RandWkop (Reply 33):
While the regional feed is important, are the current numbers on shorthaul a worry?

I guess not if chasing yield over volume is the strategy - and EI have certainly become more expensive on shorthaul.

But EI will absolutely have to come up with a strategy to defend itself against FR's new "niceness" - I must admit, even i'm considering FR for future flights now they have done away with the nastier elements of their product.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:23 am

Quoting RandWkop (Reply 33):
While the regional feed is important, are the current numbers on shorthaul a worry?
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 34):
But EI will absolutely have to come up with a strategy to defend itself against FR's new "niceness" - I must admit, even i'm considering FR for future flights now they have done away with the nastier elements of their product.

For sure FR is a bigger threat than it has been in the past. They have always had a sizeable volume of business and leisure traffic that they couldnt tap into because that section did not like their product.

Having been on FR recently myself on a 4 hour flight and a short hop from the UK booked over the next few weeks I am also willing to use them. They will never be my airline of choice but when the timings / price is right then I will certainly look at them. On the next flight with them it was a case of I needed the latest flight out of the UK as possible and FR had a 2300 departure where as EI was 2000. I pre booked my bags/seat/priority boarding so really you get what you pay for!

In terms of comfort I bought an exit row on the 4 hour flight which for me was a must. The BOB menu was surprisingly good and value for money. Crew were pleasant and although a bit slow the same could be said for my EI experience. The one thing that annoys me about EI is that pre booked meals are not given priority , I believe they should hand out first as they know the seat number and name. I finally got my meal 1 hour 40 mins after take off !
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:28 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 35):
In terms of comfort I bought an exit row on the 4 hour flight which for me was a must. The BOB menu was surprisingly good and value for money. Crew were pleasant and although a bit slow the same could be said for my EI experience. The one thing that annoys me about EI is that pre booked meals are not given priority , I believe they should hand out first as they know the seat number and name. I finally got my meal 1 hour 40 mins after take off !

EI really need to start stepping it up on short haul. The legacies are all starting to offer all the bells and whistles again, while FR are beginning to invade that space formerly held by EI. I've found myself quite underwhelmed with recent EI flights, and I've noticed you dont seem to get any sense of "brand" with EI anymore.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:37 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 25):
I doubt they paid full tag price for them.....just like buying aircraft!

Apple don't do volume discounts. There's a tiny business discout of under 5%, but that's it.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:00 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 36):
The legacies are all starting to offer all the bells and whistles again,

Indeed but also ones to watch are charter airlines too. TCX which I reviewed before were a surprise. Especially the meals. Long gone are the days of stereo types of LCC/Scheduled/Charter. Indeed some legacy so called ''good'' airlines are living off the name and no more !

Quoting bobdino (Reply 37):
Apple don't do volume discounts. There's a tiny business discout of under 5%, but that's it.

I got more than that under an affiliate scheme so that is not totally true. It maybe official policy but deals are indeed done at senior level.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:36 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 35):
The one thing that annoys me about EI is that pre booked meals are not given priority

Maybe it's different on different routes, but I had a voucher from work for EI so I took them to and from LHR two weeks ago. I had meals booked on both flights and I received them on each sector before the trolley service began.

As a comment, the Leek & Cheese Quiche was served to me on a standard tray which was unexpected and it's labelled differently as a tart. The guy next to me had the Power Me Salad which came in the usual pre-order box.

I thought, once again, that there is far too much packaging around the pre-order meals. I couldn't eat comfortably because there is so much crap to have to try and deal with. If the middle seat wasn't free, it would have been a bit more of a nightmare than it usually is.

Still, it tasted fine, but I wasn't crazy about it for €7.50. Had a breakfast on the other sector, and while always great, it is still crying out for tomato sauce though.

Really liking the new seat covers though - big improvement! Oh, and they have a new Duty Free selection on board too which they mentioned on both sectors as it had only been around for a week. Had a look at the selection - can't pass judgement either way as I don't buy things on board normally.
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:36 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27040076

Nice article on the BBC website today about SNN!
my luggage is better travelled than me!
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:50 am

Quoting captainmeeerkat (Reply 40):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27040076

Nice article on the BBC website today about SNN!

I was just about to post this myself   A great article on the history of SNN!
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:04 am

Quoting classiclover (Reply 39):
Maybe it's different on different routes

Well at the start on my DUB-LHR/DUB-AGP/DUB-BCN flights it was given out first but more recently on two DUB-ACE's and a few DUB-BHD/LGWs its not been like that. So it seems lack of consistency depending on the crew. Just seems it would be good to get those dealt with first as there are no transactions to be done just collect voucher and hand over. Also there are not that many pre orders on flights I have been on.

Quoting classiclover (Reply 39):
Had a breakfast on the other sector, and while always great, it is still crying out for tomato sauce though.

Yes the EI breakfast is their stronger point. Its actually on par with BA's CE taking out the pastries and champs.   The EI one has stayed consistent since my first one 15 years ago   Of course back then it was free and in Premier Europe where as now its charged and in Y.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:46 am

Quoting classiclover (Reply 39):
Really liking the new seat covers though - big improvement!

Not seen them yet. Much difference?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:57 pm

Business Class seat on a selection of our European flights? What?

http://www.aerlingus.com/inflight-ex...mfort-and-entertainment/shorthaul/

EDIT: As a result of my own stupidity! - this must refer to A330 flights to AGP and FAO?

[Edited 2014-04-19 06:10:29]
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:56 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 32):

I didn't see any A320s fitted with the signature antenna radome hump when I transited through Dublin last week. The Ka connectivity provider told us months ago that the launch would happen 'any day'. I'll try to get an update. Incidentally, the long-haul product (which operates over Ku), worked well over the Atlantic, and I enjoyed some rather robust speeds. So too did the mobile connectivity product (but I didn't stay on the latter for long because it's quite expensive).
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:13 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 44):
- this must refer to A330 flights to AGP and FAO?

Yes it relates to FAO Tues/Thur EI490 and AGP. Used it myself last year and was great. Also if you have some useless GC points you can cash them in for the upgrade rather then shell out the EUR's .
 
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:59 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 47):
CLT-DUB at risk ?

As I mentioned here US said it was doing well especially on the Florida connections ! Hopefully not ...

US To Decrease European Frequency From CLT (by user444555 Apr 19 2014 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:50 am

Seems to be much ado about nothing. Two routes from CLT that probably were not setting the world on fire have had frequencies scaled back. 2+2 doesnt equal ten.

Anyone seen the new EI interior/seats on the A320. What's it like? any different?

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