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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:03 pm

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Took those a few weeks back on EI-DEM. I know -DEE, -DEM and I think -DEN have the new seat covers. Not 100% on that.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:11 pm

It would be wonderful if CX could be convinced to extend the new MAN service onto Dublin.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:57 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 51):
It would be wonderful if CX could be convinced to extend the new MAN service onto Dublin.

It surely would - but judging on the sort of numbers I see about volumes between MAN and HKG, it'll hardly need a tag on to anywhere else to make the route successful.

But it would indeed be fantastic to get CX to Ireland.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:48 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 52):
But it would indeed be fantastic to get CX to Ireland.

Obviously its quite unlikely to happen, but I do hope that EI at least feeds into the MAN flight. Would much prefer transiting through MAN and on to HKG rather than LHR.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:59 pm

What ever happened to the much talked about CA route, from DUB to PEK via LGW? HKG is a great Asian hub, but PEK is very good too.

That would be great to get, but I wonder if they are wary of the strength of the ME carriers into DUB (and everywhere else for that matter, too).

There has been some murmurings about the possibility of QR joining the party too.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:05 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 54):
What ever happened to the much talked about CA route, from DUB to PEK via LGW? HKG is a great Asian hub, but PEK is very good too.

That would be great to get, but I wonder if they are wary of the strength of the ME carriers into DUB (and everywhere else for that matter, too).

There has been some murmurings about the possibility of QR joining the party too.

I'm inclined to put these ones firmly into the "rumour control" box - ie put out there to get a certain reaction from an existing or desired carrier. But like Air India......
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:08 pm

The original plan for Manchester was via Moscow, and Cathy operate a good few tag on sectors. I know the chances of this happening are basically zero but in comparison to an Air China via xxx service to Beijing, a Cathay Service via MAN to HKG would be as successful, even if HKG is further south in Asia in comparison to Beijing.

The 777 is on the ground for six hours in Manchester, so a tag could possibly be done with three 90 minute turns.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:29 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 47):

They have extended the season by a few weeks and reversed a planned reduction for the month of May so expect it's doing fine for now.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:45 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 48):
US said it was doing well especially on the Florida connections

From reading the other thread there was a comment that US/AA moving CLT-MAN to MIA-MAN would make most sense as the majority of traffic from there (like from DUB) is headed to/from Florida. Could we see a DUB-MIA service in the not-too-distant future?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:13 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 58):
Could we see a DUB-MIA service in the not-too-distant future?

Hard to tell . The problem with that is CLT still relies on other non Florida traffic to make it work. If you made it DUB-MIA you need to be able to sustain it and make it pay. So load factors North of 90% . Say 65-70% of traffic at the moment is Florida bound then that means you loose 30-35% and need to make it up some how because I can't see people going DUB-MIA then going over to the West Coast/Mid states like they do when they transit in CLT. Its a case of trial and error.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:53 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 58):
From reading the other thread there was a comment that US/AA moving CLT-MAN to MIA-MAN would make most sense as the majority of traffic from there (like from DUB) is headed to/from Florida. Could we see a DUB-MIA service in the not-too-distant future?
Quoting OA260 (Reply 59):
Hard to tell . The problem with that is CLT still relies on other non Florida traffic to make it work. If you made it DUB-MIA you need to be able to sustain it and make it pay. So load factors North of 90% . Say 65-70% of traffic at the moment is Florida bound then that means you loose 30-35% and need to make it up some how because I can't see people going DUB-MIA then going over to the West Coast/Mid states like they do when they transit in CLT. Its a case of trial and error.

MIA would seem to be on EI's radar going by recent reports on anna . aero

Quoting MichaelEI (Reply 50):
Took those a few weeks back on EI-DEM. I know -DEE, -DEM and I think -DEN have the new seat covers. Not 100% on that.

Thanks Michael!
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:22 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 42):
Yes the EI breakfast is their stronger point. Its actually on par with BA's CE taking out the pastries and champs. The EI one has stayed consistent since my first one 15 years ago Of course back then it was free and in Premier Europe where as now its charged and in Y.

That's something I didn't know, and which is nice to know - thanks for that!

Quoting MichaelEI (Reply 50):
Took those a few weeks back on EI-DEM. I know -DEE, -DEM and I think -DEN have the new seat covers. Not 100% on that.

EI-DEG and EI-DER both have them as well - they were the two aircraft I was on and both had new seat covers.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:31 pm

Quoting classiclover (Reply 61):
EI-DEG and EI-DER both have them as well - they were the two aircraft I was on and both had new seat covers.

I think one or two more have it too - I'll keep an eye out for them! I want to say EI-DEP does too but not sure.

That was EI-DEL I took the pictures on, I went back and checked the log, so I stand corrected!
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:46 pm

Quoting MichaelEI (Reply 50):

Is it carpet or have they installed a weight saving plastic floor covering?
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:55 pm

Quoting teahan (Reply 63):
Is it carpet or have they installed a weight saving plastic floor covering?

Still carpet, think it's new carpets. Can't think of any other changes that I've noticed.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:34 am

When is Westjet starting ?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:49 am

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 65):
When is Westjet starting ?

Believe it's June 4th or 5th. Looking forward to an interesting destination on the ol staff travel!  
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:24 am

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 66):

Actually a little later than that. It starts on June 16th from Dublin.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:15 pm

There's an Icelandair 752 on final into DUB now. Can anyone shed some light?

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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:17 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 68):
There's an Icelandair 752 on final into DUB now. Can anyone shed some light?

Is it the WTG charter they had for Easter?
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:49 pm

Another unusual movement; there's an ILFC 757 from MAD that looks as if it's descending towards NOC right now.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:21 pm

Nothing on their arrivals board, nothing on the charter timetable either. Possibly for the axeman. If its under an ILFC flight number then even more reason to assume it.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:09 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 70):
Another unusual movement; there's an ILFC 757 from MAD that looks as if it's descending towards NOC right now.

For the chop i believe.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:12 pm

It is there to be scrapped, 2 737-300's & A321 are currently 'residing' at NOC for the same reason.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:41 pm

Some of the current residents at the graveyard. Quite the little business they got going on there now.

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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:55 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 70):

What does ILFC stand for? How come these aircraft head to NOC to be scrapped? I presume they head off to the VCV for complete scrappage?
 
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:20 am

Flybe announced a new base at London City this morning, launching a number of new routes including Dublin and Belfast City from October.

LCY-DUB will be 4 daily.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBiz/status/458850395272798208

A bit of competition for CityJet.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:40 am

The Flybe lounge was closed in BHD and Aspire are kitting it out at the moment. It will cater for Priority Pass/ BE passengers and Airport Angel. A big plus IMHO as the Flybe one was filthy!

So now we will have two decent lounges at BHD.

The opening is delayed by about 7-10 days though.


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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:42 am

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 77):

Not good news for WX at all. While competition on any route is welcomed, this along with CDG was their bread and butter. You'd have to question where the future lies for them.

Would EI be interested in them as another regional partner? Connections to their US flights from LCY with DUB pre clearance could be an attraction for many business travellers.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:30 am

Quoting Eirules (Reply 79):

Indeed WX will have a fight on their hands! Good for competition though.


An article on the rumoured Moscow route :


Ryanair's promised Dublin-Moscow service delayed

In October 2013, it applied to the Russian Federations Transport Agency for permission to operate to Moscow and St Petersburg “starting the end of March 2014”, according to a fax published by the Irish Embassy.

Ireland's Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that the airline had gained permission to fly in the country in a note published on the Russian Federal Air Transportation Agency's site in November 2013.

http://voiceofrussia.com/uk/news/201...ublin-Moscow-service-delayed-6029/
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:35 am

Finally some movement on the RE fleet.

- EI-CPT (an AT4) has been withdrawn from service and ferried to Mönchengladbach to be parted out.
- No further information on the fate of EI-BYO, also an AT4, that was damaged earlier this year at SNN.
- Two AT4s now remain in active service (EI-CBK and EI-EHH); one based at SNN operating selected flights to/from MAN, BHX and BRS and one based at DUB but overnighting at KIR (operating the daily KIR-DUB-IOM-DUB-KIR-DUB-BLK-DUB-IOM-DUB-KIR pattern)

- EI-REM (an A75, currently based at SNN) will leave the fleet for Myanma Airways; date not yet known. This will leave one A75 in active service (based at ORK).

- The two A72s in the fleet are expected to remain in service (both currently based at DUB).

- One further A76 to be delivered - expected to operate for the new BE franchise at SEN.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:25 pm

A Lufthansa A330-300 operating flight LH410 (MUC-JFK) appears to be diverting into DUB now.

http://www.flightradar24.com/DLH410/32cc168

I may well be spending too much time on Flightradar24...  
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Does anyone know if the new Flybe LCY-DUB service is to be operated by themselves or RE????
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:48 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 83):

Themselves by a Dash 8
 
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Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:33 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 84):

Thanks for that.

Exciting times.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:58 am

Boeing 757-28A 24544 280 N101LF ILFC Mint Airways cs, ferried 22apr14 MAD-NOC for part-out & scrap ex EC-LHL

Update from Skyliner Aviation on that 757 that went to NOC. As suspected, for the axeman.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:50 am

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 86):

Jeez NOC is racking them up !
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:56 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 87):
Jeez NOC is racking them up !

I never knew NOC was used to store aircraft on their way in this way. It is not like it has vast areas of unused runways to park aircraft on like SNN does.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:09 am

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 88):

I never knew NOC was used to store aircraft on their way in this way.

It's great to see them pushing into new areas of business. I'd say NOC is offering good rates to salvage companies to part out their aircraft there. The logistics of getting the equipment to, and the scrap from NOC is not that easy so there must be a decent cost advantage to go there.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:53 pm

Quoting eirbus06 (Reply 76):

Cheers for that!

Quoting tonystan (Reply 83):

Could Aer Lingus, via EIR, re-enter the London City market? They could tap into the business market to the US and Canada via DUB with pre-clearance. Is there any VFR market here? Or is that sufficently catered for via LHR, LGW and SEN. Could the fact that ATR's would be operating the route be a hindrance?

They operated DUB-LCY back in 2002/2003 with the BAE146-300 aircraft. The route was axed, along with LGW when they offloaded the BAE146 jets.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...don-city-and-gatwick-25943810.html
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:58 pm

Just looking at Flight Radar 24 now and realised that the entire EI Long-Haul fleet is in the air at one time.

EI147 DUB-SFO EI-DUO
EI123 DUB-ORD EI-DAA
EI105 DUB-JFK EI-DUZ
EI137 DUB-BOS EI-ELA
EI135 SNN-BOS EI-LBR
EI111 SNN-JFK EI-LBS
EI129 DUB-YYZ EI-LBT
EI125 DUB-ORD EI-LAX
EI109 DUB-JFK EI-EAV
EI139 DUB-BOS EI-EDY

So what happens if an aircraft goes tech? I know the peak season/summer schedule is now operating but there is currently 0% slack in the EI long haul fleet for this Summer? Talk about sweating the assets !

[Edited 2014-04-25 09:02:45]

[Edited 2014-04-25 09:03:31]
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:19 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 91):
So what happens if an aircraft goes tech?

Titan 767 I'd guess
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:02 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 91):
So what happens if an aircraft goes tech?

Shh....dont tempt faith.....
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:25 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 91):
Talk about sweating the assets !

All birds in the air. This was tried a few years back, with some damage to reputation when it predictably had a bad run of luck, lets hope everything keeps ticking over.
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:56 pm

FR701 (STN-KIR) currently diverting to SNN after two attempts to land at KIR. Very strong winds down around these parts at the moment.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:22 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 91):
So what happens if an aircraft goes tech? I know the peak season/summer schedule is now operating but there is currently 0% slack in the EI long haul fleet for this Summer? Talk about sweating the assets !

It would be difficult to justify parking a 330 on a Friday - the revenue potential is simply too great. I believe there is a little slack in the long-haul fleet on Tuesday and Thursday.



[Edited 2014-04-25 14:24:18]
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:39 pm

Quoting EI320 (Reply 96):
Tuesday and Thursday.

Thursday would be 'A' check day/night for the 330's so count one out after it does a European leg
 
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:34 pm

just noticed that the EI 757 that does the EI129 to YYZ when it returns from YYZ its sitting on the tarmac in Dublin for 8 and a half hours! would it not be more economical for EI to send it on one of there leisure routes to spain or the canaries like the already do on the AGP and FAO flights?
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RE: Irish Aviation 4/14: Clear Skies And Contrails

Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:07 am

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 98):

just noticed that the EI 757 that does the EI129 to YYZ when it returns from YYZ its sitting on the tarmac in Dublin for 8 and a half hours! would it not be more economical for EI to send it on one of there leisure routes to spain or the canaries like the already do on the AGP and FAO flights?

It is the same situation in SNN. Someone mentioned this before on this thread and I think it is a great possibility.

Someone suggested the SNN 757's could do an AGP, or FAO run like the EI A330 does. Alternatively it could take a LHR run while the replaced A319/320 could do a European run instead.

A lot of potential.

The only thing is they might not be permitted under the agreement with Air Contractors. I am not sure of the terms, but they may only be permitted on the outlined routes (SNN-BOS-JFK, and DUB-YYZ).

One other thing is EI are a "slowly but steady" airline. They have taken a few risks this year with new routes, but they may not be prepared to make too many risks in a short space of time. Perhaps next summer we might see the use of 757's on European routes.
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