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jcxroberts
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:28 am

And I don't believe for a second that Pine Gap, Waihopai Valley ,or another US backed facility didn't pick up this plane. People know what happened. The area of Asia where it disappeared is under territorial dispute and the US has blanket coverage there.
 
nupogodi
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:36 am

Quoting jcxroberts (Reply 299):
It would be catastrophic failure of governance to not find this plane because of 'lack of money', which is a bunch of b.s.

True as that may be, even with infinite money, if you don't know where the damn thing is even approximately, you've got a big problem. There's only so much money you can throw at a problem like this.

If it's where the pings were heard, that'd be nice. Otherwise...
A man must know how to look before he can hope to see.
 
nupogodi
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:40 am

Quoting jcxroberts (Reply 300):
And I don't believe for a second that Pine Gap, Waihopai Valley ,or another US backed facility didn't pick up this plane. People know what happened. The area of Asia where it disappeared is under territorial dispute and the US has blanket coverage there.

... Satellite monitoring facilities? What would they 'pick up'?
A man must know how to look before he can hope to see.
 
jcxroberts
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:02 am

People really think Australia would have missed this plane ? I don't, they use the same radar systems as the U.S., more or less. Jindalee has coverage over that area.
 
art
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:13 am

Quoting Pihero (Reply 264):
Quoting art (Reply 262):The only contained area in which seabed evidence of MH370 is likely to be found is within a short range of the reported reception of pings IMO.

...and how was that area determined ?

Pings were reported by Ocean Shield.

How can the area to be sonar scanned be determined?

(1) check with the manufacturers of the ULB and the ping detector what maximum detection range they estimate

(2) temperature/pressure/salinity etc will produce variations of detection range (by the way, this has been mentioned but has any data showing known examples of such variations been presented here?) so sink a ULB at various locations in the areas where pings were detected then test the maximum ranges at which pings can be detected (using ever increasing circles?). Not so time consuming when you know where the ULB is, particularly since the ULB is cited as being detectable over a very limited range (less than 5km)

[Edited 2014-04-22 22:15:32]

[Edited 2014-04-22 22:18:41]
 
nupogodi
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:18 am

Quoting jcxroberts (Reply 303):
Jindalee has coverage over that area.

JORN is fancy, but if they weren't looking, they wouldn't have seen it.

Yes. Australia could have "missed it". You know, *it* being something they weren't looking for, over a thousand miles offshore...

[Edited 2014-04-22 22:23:48]
A man must know how to look before he can hope to see.
 
wilco737
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 56

Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:36 am

Part 57 now available here:

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 57 (by wilco737 Apr 22 2014 in Civil Aviation)

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