|Quoting Revelation (Reply 50):|
A380 will need to sell against today's twins and improved succesors, which are much better than the ones it was selling against in 2000.
I'm sure they are.
What I'm not sure about is why you are studiously ignoring that the reason we're discussing an A380 upgrade is to bring improvements of a similar scale to the A380 and restore, maybe even improve, it's competitiveness against the new twins.
The A380 that needs to sell against today's improved twins will be an equally improved A380.
For me, though, the real point here is that, where the 777 is requiring a complete make-over - all-new CFRP wings, new engines, a fuselage stretch, a re-sculpting of the interior, et al, to deliver that 15%-16% fuel burn per seat improvement, all that's being suggested of the A380 is to hang new engines with 10% better SFC off the wings, and make a few judicial aero and weight improvements.
Oh, yes, and add 6% or so more seats in the same fuselage
yet still retaining a considerable space per seat advantage over it's twin competitor.
A relatively trivial task in comparison, I would have thought.
really get their way, and Airbus fancy a bit more of a challenge, but still a lot less than the 777X, an "RR Advance" powered A380-900 would offer 20% better fuel burn per m2 than the current plane, and 25%-30% better fuel burn per seat if the slightly more dense configurations were adopted.
And offer the same range capability as today's plane on the same MTOW
That dwarf's the improvements being offered by "the big twins"
There's a tasty back-pocket item