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US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 8:53 pm

US 735, an A330 operating from PHL to MCO ran into turbulence yesterday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...e-turbulence-idUSBREA4405A20140505

Looks like it was still climbing out when it possibly hit that weather front that moved through yesterday. 6 passengers or crew injured when the plane dropped. The flight returned to Philly. One passenger took a photo of what he thought was a dent in the cabin ceiling caused by someone's head.

In situations like this, that plane is taken out of service, right? Also, this is one of the uncommon domestic widebody flights US runs during this time of year. If this plane was pulled out of service, did they have to cancel or downgrade a Europe-bound flight that evening?
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 9:15 pm

The aircraft in question is N276AY.

It landed in MCO at 03:04am, and was scheduled to land at 22:24pm.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 9:27 pm

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
In situations like this, that plane is taken out of service, right? Also, this is one of the uncommon domestic widebody flights US runs during this time of year. If this plane was pulled out of service, did they have to cancel or downgrade a Europe-bound flight that evening?

Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I remember the aircraft involved in the AA 587 crash (an A300-600) had suffered through severe turbulence much earlier in its career and I always wondered what the long term affects on an aircraft would be. I know this was a different aircraft but the A330 and A300 are similar and both constructed using lots of composite features. I don't know if fatigue testing has advanced much on composite parts in the past 15-20 years, but would US need to check this aircraft for any cracks or other damage?

This turbulence sounds like it was quite extreme or at least very heavy - surprised it did not show up on the radar.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 9:32 pm

Quoting richierich (Reply 5):
Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I remember the aircraft involved in the AA 587 crash (an A300-600) had suffered through severe turbulence much earlier in its career and I always wondered what the long term affects on an aircraft would be. I know this was a different aircraft but the A330 and A300 are similar and both constructed using lots of composite features. I don't know if fatigue testing has advanced much on composite parts in the past 15-20 years, but would US need to check this aircraft for any cracks or other damage?

Like most crashes, they learn from mistakes.

I would assume that following severe turbulence this would be inspected, or at least put on a priority list for inspection.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 9:37 pm

Also, I know the article uses the word "severe" but I have a hard time thinking that an event that concluded in less than 10 seconds could be considered as severe turbulence under a meteorological definition.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/lo..._from_Philadelphia_to_Florida.html

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The turbulence lasted five seconds, maybe 10, Sunday night.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 10:03 pm

I guess I'm the only one who misread the flight number as an aircraft type and thought :"Huh,when did US have the -500 series" DOH!
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 10:10 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
Also, I know the article uses the word "severe" but I have a hard time thinking that an event that concluded in less than 10 seconds could be considered as severe turbulence under a meteorological definition.

Under the aeronautical definition, there is no time limit:

"Turbulence that causes large, abrupt changes in altitude and/or attitude. It usually causes large variations in indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be
momentarily out of control. Occupants are forced violently against seat belts or shoulder straps.
Unsecured objects are tossed about. Food Service and walking are impossible. Report as Severe Turbulence."

http://www.navyaircrew.com/blog/2009...re-turbulencehow-are-they-defined/


It was definitely severe turbulence if the ceiling was cracked.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 10:58 pm

When the flight attendant says "buckle your seatbelt and tighten it across your lap," listen!

I was flying near the mouth of a canyon in a Cessna 172 last week and caught a sharp bump that put my head into the ceiling pretty hard and tossed my charts around the cockpit. I'm 6'3 so there's not a lot of distance for the top of my head to travel before it hits the ceiling, but I started buckling and tightening my seatbelt after that. I was on an A320 a couple days later and tightened my seatbelt up then, too.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 11:02 pm

Quoting flightshadow (Reply 7):
When the flight attendant says "buckle your seatbelt and tighten it across your lap," listen!

Absolutely. I always keep my belt on while inflight and if it's not tightened it's definitely still buckled!
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 11:45 pm

Slightly off topic as well but I have always wondered.

Why the hell does US fly A330s to MCO?
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 11:48 pm

Quoting TPAramp (Reply 9):


Why the hell does US fly A330s to MCO?


Downtime between Int'l flights and demand to MCO gets some more revenue out of the plane, Piedmont used to do the same thing with the CLT-LGW flights, send the 762's down to Florida to earn some $$$.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Mon May 05, 2014 11:52 pm

I never knew MCO was in such high demand for US. Any particular reason why?
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 12:04 am

Quoting TPAramp (Reply 11):
I never knew MCO was in such high demand for US. Any particular reason why?

MCO in general is a shovel-'em-in destination. Tons of demand, almost all at very low price points.
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 12:15 am

Flew the A332 last November from MCO-CLT. Lately it's only been doing PHL-MCO-PHL runs, some times A333.
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 3:39 am

Quoting TPAramp (Reply 9):
Slightly off topic as well but I have always wondered.

Why the hell does US fly A330s to MCO?

For the same reason CX operates 77W (and previously 744) types between HKG-MNL and that is only 1 1/2 hours. Downtime between long hauls and the demand is there.
 
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 1:54 pm

Quoting cipango (Reply 1):
The aircraft in question is N276AY.

It landed in MCO at 03:04am, and was scheduled to land at 22:24pm.

Actually N276AY (333) was the replacement aircraft, the turbulence incident occurred on N287AY (332) which was taken out of service for inspection.

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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 5:35 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 6):
Under the aeronautical definition, there is no time limit:

Sudden, short bouts of severe turbulence actually aren't all that uncommon. I had one on DL BNA-ATL about a year ago in a similar phase of flight, but the captain had the flight attendants seated and all passengers were seated (and, I think, belted) too.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 5:43 pm

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 15):
N287AY (332)

I thought the incident aircraft was N272AY ?

There is also a short report online, you may know where i mean.
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Tue May 06, 2014 7:12 pm

Quoting ReinerS (Reply 17):

I thought the incident aircraft was N272AY ?

There is also a short report online, you may know where i mean.

As far as flightaware shows, 287 was involved.   Which makes me slightly more interested than before, as 287 is the only a330 I've ever been on.  
Quoting TPAramp (Reply 9):
Slightly off topic as well but I have always wondered.

Why the hell does US fly A330s to MCO?

MAH4546 pointed out in another thread that MCO is one of the biggest feeders for CLT-Europe flights, so that's one reason they fly widebodies to CLT from MCO (the a330 is seasonal on the route). I'd imagine that, between the available European connections coupled with all the connections available through PHL, the a330 is a good choice for the route while it's available.  
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RE: US 735 (PHL-MCO) Returns After Turbulence Hurts 6

Wed May 07, 2014 4:49 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 5):
I guess I'm the only one who misread the flight number as an aircraft type and thought :"Huh,when did US have the -500 series" DOH!

No, I also interpreted that as the aircraft type. In fact, the only reason I clicked on the thread was to figure out what the OP was talking about.
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