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dc8jet
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Need CV-580 Help.

Thu May 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Saw an Aeronaves TSB CV-580 today at KYIP. Can't find any listing that they have a 580. Might anyone know a possible reg and SN?
It was NOT a CV-640.

[Edited 2014-05-22 13:14:06]

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Thu May 22, 2014 8:21 pm

Are you sure it wasn't an actual 240/340? When I was flying in Mexico in the late 1990's, there were still lots of CV240's and 340's flying with their original radial engines, but converted to freighters. If you bought avgas for a small plane in places like CUU or CJS, you got the old 100/130 octane grade back then (dyed green) to keep the old radials happy   The Mexican Convairs would regularly show up at ELP, too, where they would usually transfer the load to a US operator going to places like Michigan (they usually ferried automotive parts that were made in Mexico).
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Thu May 22, 2014 8:26 pm

In the USAF we used 115/145 avgas. Interesting difference.
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Thu May 22, 2014 10:24 pm

KELPkid It had Allison engines with Aeroproducts four bladed props.
 
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 1:07 am

Hmm I haven't seen any 580's for them, lots of 640's though.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 1):
The Mexican Convairs would regularly show up at ELP, too, where they would usually transfer the load to a US operator going to places like Michigan (they usually ferried automotive parts that were made in Mexico).

Now they are coming all the way up to Detroit, buying up DC-9's too.
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 1:29 am

If the plane was all white with a Mexican registration it was Air Tribe. They have two CV-580s: XA-UPL and XA-TRB.

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 3:52 am

Quoting tb727 (Reply 4):

Did they buy more than one? I thought they were just replacing the -30 they wrote off a few months ago.
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 4:34 am

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 6):
Did they buy more than one? I thought they were just replacing the -30 they wrote off a few months ago.

Not only -30's, they have an MD-80SF in service with two more on the way and three on option

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 11:10 am

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 6):
Did they buy more than one? I thought they were just replacing the -30 they wrote off a few months ago.

They just flew 207US out of YIP when I was getting freight there the other day, maybe that's the replacement. I was chatting with a USAJet mech later that day on the road and he couldn't believe they got it out of there in the state it was in. It sounded like it had sat for years and was pretty much scrap but they bought it and cobbled it back together enough to take it to Mexico.

I heard the MD80 rumor as well. It's not quite a 727 replacement but it's going to be interesting. I don't even think JUS has gone ahead with more than 1 at the moment.
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Fri May 23, 2014 11:30 am

This was probably the flight

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VTM88

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sat May 24, 2014 12:00 am

FlyMKG The 580 was in full Aeronaves TSM colors and titles.
 
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sat May 24, 2014 2:55 am

Whatever it is, It's heading back to KYIP now.

http://flightaware.com./live/flight/VTM332

By the way, Aeronaves TSM has purchased two Ex-Evergreen DC-9-15F's also.

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sat May 24, 2014 4:00 am

Quoting tb727 (Reply 8):

What airline is getting the MD80F???

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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sat May 24, 2014 4:13 am

Quoting mcoflyer (Reply 12):
What airline is getting the MD80F???

Aeronaves TSM.They have one in service with two more firm orders.
 
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sat May 24, 2014 10:21 pm

Quoting mcoflyer (Reply 12):
What airline is getting the MD80F???
Quoting dtw9 (Reply 13):
Aeronaves TSM.They have one in service with two more firm orders.

Does TSM have it out flying yet? Haven't seen it just yet.

USAJet has had their MD-80SF flying freight since last summer or so. Also the aircraft that flew U2 and Mitt Romney around prior to being converted. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JUS831

Speaking of Convairs, been seeing the piston powered N24DR pounding around Mexico and south Texas recently.
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RE: Need CV-580 Help.

Sun May 25, 2014 1:49 am

Quoting tb727 (Reply 14):
Does TSM have it out flying yet? Haven't seen it just yet

Been flying for a month or so. All white just like USA Jet's


http://www.aeronavestsm.com/md-80eng.html

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