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Quoting Karadion (Reply 1): No, good riddance for that. |
Quoting Prost (Reply 2): As long as you would forego service so the Flight Attendants don't have to be exposed to the health risks of second hand smoke, but then I guess the flight attendants would be seen as 'selfish'. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 3): Why so? It could be considered discrimination toward the smokers in the world. I'd like to know if there is a chance of having some legal bases on this quote... |
Quoting Karadion (Reply 1): No, good riddance for that. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 3): Why so? It could be considered discrimination toward the smokers in the world. I'd like to know if there is a chance of having some legal bases on this quote... |
Quoting eielef (Thread starter): I would flew that airline, without even checking whats the extra price for a smoker sit. I prefer smoker than business or first. And many people would feel the same as me. |
Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 8): There is exactly zero chance of smoking ever being allowed on any aircraft that flies to or from the US or EU. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): Why don't you consider that way those people who drink alcohol? After a few drinks, he/she could be dangerous.... |
Quoting eielef (Thread starter): Why don't they start, with the latest technologies, using planes where there is a smokers cabin, and that doesn't disturb the other passengers? |
Quoting eielef (Thread starter): 19 hours in the plane without smoking, I just couldn't any more. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): Well, about 20% of people smoke. Lets even say half of them would like to smoke on a plane, even if the ticket is more expensive. So, we have 10% of total passengers on a flight willing to smoke. Think of any dense route in the US. Think of LAX-JFK. There are, at least, 10 flights a day. Make ONE of them smokers only. Forget the laws and all of that... Laws can be reversed, there can be new laws, etc. Wouldn't it be successful? I've been 3 times to the US in the last few months, and I was surprised how you consider a smoker a real second class citizen. Why don't you consider that way those people who drink alcohol? After a few drinks, he/she could be dangerous.... You even allow them board on a plane, and you even offer (for free or not) lots of drinks with alcohol. Why do you offer wine and not cigarettes, which are even cheaper... |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): Forget the laws and all of that... Laws can be reversed, there can be new laws, etc. Wouldn't it be successful? |
Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 14): I would avoid an airline like the plague if they allowed smoking on board and I can assure you I'm not alone. |
Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 16): here is the technology for that. It's called electronic cigarettes. They produce only water vapor and the burden on nicotine is solely on the smokers lungs. But then again, prejudice prevents even that from being allowed. BTW, EZE-GRU-DOH in 2009, are you sure of your dates? |
Quoting eielef (Reply 17): It sounds crazy, but so is those who say that a cigarette could burn a plane. It happened once, I think on a DC9, as the passenger was smoking on the toilet, because in the cabin it was already banned. So, he threw the cigarette in the paper towels disposal, and they started a big and fatal fire. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): Wouldn't it be successful? |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): I've been 3 times to the US in the last few months, |
Quoting Karadion (Reply 1): No, good riddance for that. |
Quoting Prost (Reply 2): As long as you would forego service so the Flight Attendants don't have to be exposed to the health risks of second hand smoke, |
Quoting eielef (Reply 3): Why so? It could be considered discrimination toward the smokers in the world. |
Quoting MWHCVT (Reply 4): I cannot for the life of me imagine why anyone would want it back on aircraft |
Quoting PGNCS (Reply 5): YOU have chosen to become addicted, and there are health consequences for you and those around you. Conversely, there are no health risks associated with not smoking. |
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 15): Secondly, cleaning costs have gone down dramatically since smoking was prohibited, and I'm not so sure smokers would be willing enough to pay a high enough premium for the increased cost of modifying aircraft and cleaning etc. |
Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 14): I would avoid an airline like the plague if they allowed smoking on board and I can assure you I'm not alone. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 17): I'd really like to see some studies if that really affects you and how much. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 10): Wouldn't it be successful? |
Quoting eielef (Reply 17): Back to alcohol. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 17): It sounds crazy, but so is those who say that a cigarette could burn a plane. It happened once, |
Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 16): There is the technology for that. It's called electronic cigarettes. They produce only water vapor and the burden on nicotine is solely on the smokers lungs. But then again, prejudice prevents even that from being allowed. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 3): It could be considered discrimination toward the smokers in the world. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Those who eat fat are also killing themselves too, or those who use oil, salt, sugar, etc.etc.etc. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Those who say I'm killing myself, its my choice. |
Quoting eielef (Thread starter): 9 hours in the plane without smoking, I just couldn't any more. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): 2nd. Those who have fat or salt in their diet, and die from fat a heart failure? |
Quoting eielef (Reply 9): I've been 3 times to the US in the last few months, and I was surprised how you consider a smoker a real second class citizen. Why don't you consider that way those people who drink alcohol? After a few drinks, he/she could be dangerous.... You even allow them board on a plane, and you even offer (for free or not) lots of drinks with alcohol. Why do you offer wine and not cigarettes, which are even cheaper... |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Those who say I'm killing myself, its my choice. Those who eat fat are also killing themselves too, or those who use oil, salt, sugar, etc.etc.etc. And, think wise: how many people die in this two groups? 1st. Those who smoke and die after lungs cancer, or 2nd. Those who have fat or salt in their diet, and die from fat a heart failure? |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Those who say I'm killing myself, its my choice. Those who eat fat are also killing themselves too |
Quoting eielef (Reply 16): "Pollution to the others air". I'd really like to see some studies if that really affects you and how much. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 16): Are flight crews trained on knowing when they should stop giving a passenger alcohol? |
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 37): Inside the aircraft, there cannot be a Smoking section since the air circulation includes the whole cabin. If one smokes in row one the People in row 31 get the smoke as well. |
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Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Why aren't smoker lounges in all airports? Why do you ban them too? |
Quoting Aesma (Reply 39): I was watching a debate the other day, and in the end both debaters agreed that smoking will disappear in France in the next 20 years, thanks in part to e-cigarettes, and of course higher and higher price and prohibition along with social stigma. |
Quoting eielef (Reply 27): Those who eat fat are also killing themselves too |
Quoting mayor (Reply 32): As far as that goes, high cholesterol can also be genetic, so it's not like those people have a choice. |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 40): Did I just wake up in 1990? What year is it? |
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 42): There's an easy solution to the 'problem': Become a millionaire or, even better, a billionaire and buy your own aircraft, then set your own rules. |
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 42): buy your own aircraft, then set your own rules. |