As a smoker (and used to be a heavy one), I gotta say, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
|Quoting eielef (Thread starter):|
Why don't they start, with the latest technologies, using planes where there is a smokers cabin, and that doesn't disturb the other passengers?
Sorry, not gonna work. How about a cubicle...
Let's say, pay $2 a minute for a smoking cubicle in some part of the plane...
Would you pay? That's just for the space of the cubicle in terms of seat space.
Now, if the airline wants to charge $20 a minute, would you still pay?
|Quoting eielef (Reply 3):|
Why so? It could be considered discrimination toward the smokers in the world.
I'd like to know if there is a chance of having some legal bases on this quote...
Is it really discrimination? Blame the inconsiderate smokers who in the past smoke in front of people who did not want to get exposure to secondary smoke... If you want to blame someone for discrimination, blame them!
|Quoting 777Jet (Reply 8):|
If you are a pilot, of course! You can do what you want up the front...
No you can't. Many airlines specifically prohibit smoking in the cockpit for maintenance cost reasons. The tar in the smoke sticks to bearings, joints etc, and causes friction to circulation fans, and also solidify the lubrication... you end up with... all of a sudden, smoke coming out of the ventilation.... the cost of the diversion... not small!
|Quoting gatorman96 (Reply 13):|
On the flip side, I would avoid an airline like the plague if they allowed smoking on board and I can assure you I'm not alone.
Am a smoker, and I too, would avoid that airline like a plague!
|Quoting CXfirst (Reply 14):|
Secondly, cleaning costs have gone down dramatically since smoking was prohibited, and I'm not so sure smokers would be willing enough to pay a high enough premium for the increased cost of modifying aircraft and cleaning etc.
Not only cleaning costs, but also reliability of certain components, have improved since. The savings, is what we enjoy today.
|Quoting CXfirst (Reply 14):|
If you really can't stand going on a long-haul flight without smoking, split the flight into two flights and have a smoking break somewhere in between.
That's what I would do... but then, I just go by with no great difficulty...
|Quoting eielef (Reply 16):|
Are flight crews trained on knowing when they should stop giving a passenger alcohol? When it will become too dangerous? It could even risk the safety on the plane, as for instance pretending (while being drunk) that he has a weapon or he has a bomb.
In many countries they are by law required to stop serving to passengers intoxicated by alcohol.
|Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 19):|
I would fight any campaign to allow it in aircraft again.
Ironically, as a smoker, I would too!
Smoking is a luxury, it's not basic fundamental human right... to not be exposed to carcinogens, is.
If the "addiction" goes to the level that prompted this topic to be raised, it's not addiction... it's selfishness.
|Quoting eielef (Reply 27):|
Lets move to something smaller. Why aren't smoker lounges in all airports? Why do you ban them too? Don't we have any right?
You follow the laws of the land you're in. If that country doesn't allow smoker lounges, then tough luck!
If a non-smoker goes into a country where smoking is allowed anywhere, then he/she also has to put up with it.
It goes both ways.
|Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 28):|
The city of Melbourne in Australia is planning to go one step further and ban smoking, period, including on public streets and sidewalks (they plan to put up dedicated smoking shelters that smokers can duck into and close the door so that nobody else breathes in the smoke). That is the way the world is moving, not the other way around.
I disagree to going up this far, but again, if they've enacted this law, then if I go Melbourne, I have to abide by it instead of screaming it's discrimination against me. I can go outside the city limits and smoke even if the smoke enters Melbourne city territory :p But, that's a technicality issue.
I do wish fellow smokers are more considerate to non-smokers... a little courtesy to non-smokers would have prevented a lot of these so called "measures against smoking and smokers"...
At least I feel fortunate to be able to spend a few days without or with very few cigarettes nowadays... Coz smokers with bad attitude will make that a no-choice for me sometime in the future.