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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:03 pm

Quoting jayunited (Reply 49):
Aircraft schedulers will know what aircraft have been converted and what aircraft have not. When the conversions first start AA will limit the routes that these planes fly on it will be no different than any other type of conversion. The aircraft will fly dedicated routes in the beginning and substitutes will only be may in emergency situations when the only other option available is canceling the trip. And more than likely AA would never sub an old configuration 777 with a new configuration it would be the other way around if the new configuration 777 is out of service they would place an old configuration in its place. And it would stay like that until they probably get down to the last 6-10 777's then AA might have to replace a reconfigured 777 with an older model. But once they get down to the last few models I'm sure AA would no longer sell the seats as first class they would all be considered business class and sold as such but FF with hight status would have access to the first class seat. It is sort of the same thing UA did with our P.S. service once we were half way thru the reconfiguration UA stop selling first class seats and everything was sold as business class but GS and 1K passengers were able to still choose a seat in first class until first class was no more and P.S. was only business class and coach.

Thanks for that, a very detailed and informative explanation.  
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:55 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 7):
...Other changes will also be, no walk up snack bar as originally planned.

on 4/6/14, an "update" on the 777-200 plan was published on jetnet for AA employees. This plan included the walk up bar, and includes "sneak peek" photos of the cabin.. As of today this article is still posted . Has there been a published source of these changes?

AA ORD

[Edited 2014-06-15 15:56:32]
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:30 pm

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 51):
n 4/6/14, an "update" on the 777-200 plan was published on jetnet for AA employees. This plan included the walk up bar, and includes "sneak peek" photos of the cabin.. As of today this article is still posted . Has there been a published source of these changes?

That was two months ago, you were not at the ALC this week? This is why the whole program has been delayed.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:16 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 47):
They reviewed this past week at the ALC conference

Dude, what's the ALC?
The reduction in premium seats does not surprise me and is a clear indication American is planning to follow DL & UA and make changes to AAdvantage.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:49 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 32):
Added cost with no value or return on investment. Install a thin bulkhead wall in its place and add more seats.

Is that your opinion or what you read or heard?

The walk-up bar is in a passageway. You can't take up the same space with seats. There would be no way to get from one side to the other.

As to why it may be going away, it was absolutely useless. The so-called snacks were pretty food, parfaits and such. AA would be better served by adding a snack-on-demand service, like the midnight noodles and/or ice cream served on Cathay. Put the service on the menu and no one will notice the walk-up bar is gone.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:30 pm

Has anyone figured out why DL is 3-3-3 and shows more Y seats? Do they have more rows? Does AA have narrower seats but more legroom due to reduced amount of rows?
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:58 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 53):
Dude, what's the ALC?

Annual leadership conference.....

Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 54):
The walk-up bar is in a passageway. You can't take up the same space with seats. There would be no way to get from one side to the other.

But a thinner bulkhead could be installed and move the seats approx 1' further forward.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:09 am

Indeed, it was announced at ALC along with the rest of the fleet. Additionally, it was hinted an announcement with more connect the dots routes very soon.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:20 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 56):
Annual leadership conference

A company internal affair?

Quoting AAAL (Reply 57):
it was hinted an announcement with more connect the dots routes very soon

I just know it's all about MIA   
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:46 am

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 58):
A company internal affair?

Cool Aid convention! And after that a booze fest!
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:04 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 59):
after that a booze fest

And we all know Parker loves to party 
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:36 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 56):
But a thinner bulkhead could be installed and move the seats approx 1' further forward.

Not if that space is going to be galley/storage space anyway. The carts that are stored below the bench still have to go somewhere, as does the booze, flatware/glasses and food that you'd need to offer to replace the snacks.

If they really do want to save some space then they should be looking to shrink the bar down a bit or ways to make the space more multifunctional before they look to ditch it altogether. IMO it adds a lot of value to the brand.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:39 am

Quoting questions (Reply 43):
How can DL configure the aircraft with more seats given similar J and Y+ when DL has 3-3-3 Y and AA has 3-4-3 Y. It would seem AA could stuff more seats in.
Quoting user444555 (Reply 55):
Has anyone figured out why DL is 3-3-3 and shows more Y seats? Do they have more rows? Does AA have narrower seats but more legroom due to reduced amount of rows?

Anyone?
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:48 am

This is bad news. Here we go with the parkerization of AA. Pathetic. This man has no skill in running an airline. A real airline. Sad
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:37 am

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 63):
This man has no skill in running an airline.

Im sorry, but rubbish. He did a really good job running US.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:54 am

Quoting questions (Reply 62):

Quoting questions (Reply 43):
How can DL configure the aircraft with more seats given similar J and Y+ when DL has 3-3-3 Y and AA has 3-4-3 Y. It would seem AA could stuff more seats in.
Quoting user444555 (Reply 55):
Has anyone figured out why DL is 3-3-3 and shows more Y seats? Do they have more rows? Does AA have narrower seats but more legroom due to reduced amount of rows?

Anyone?

AA's cirrus seat is also quite space consuming

DL fits 37 J with only 3 rows past door 2. AA needs 4 rows past door 2.

AA's MCE is up to 37" legroom while DL's EC is only 35". Maybe that'll account for the diff.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:36 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 65):

Quoting questions (Reply 62):

Quoting questions (Reply 43):
How can DL configure the aircraft with more seats given similar J and Y+ when DL has 3-3-3 Y and AA has 3-4-3 Y. It would seem AA could stuff more seats in.
Quoting user444555 (Reply 55):
Has anyone figured out why DL is 3-3-3 and shows more Y seats? Do they have more rows? Does AA have narrower seats but more legroom due to reduced amount of rows?

Anyone?

AA's cirrus seat is also quite space consuming

DL fits 37 J with only 3 rows past door 2. AA needs 4 rows past door 2.

AA's MCE is up to 37" legroom while DL's EC is only 35". Maybe that'll account for the diff.

That probably explains it thanks.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:39 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 65):

Thanks!
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:27 am

Quoting user444555 (Reply 66):
That probably explains it thanks.

Not quite because the 772 has a new product, not Cirrus.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:20 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
AA's routes to China as well as DFW-ICN are in dire need of a less premium, higher capacity, plane that can make these routes profitable (or at least lose less money).

An indication that the DFW routes to the new Asian markets will not sell well in premium and that the new AA cannot make it as a premium airline? Too bad, because its coach service is just bloody awful. A friend just commented that the meal service in coach from LHR to ORD consisted of a small package of crackers with a drink followed by a greasy pizza two hours before landing. In contrast, her outbound flight was ORD-MAD on Iberia, a route where there is no competition out of ORD, and commented that it was very good in terms of food, comfort and amenities.

Quoting ExL10Mktg (Reply 23):
I love the doom and gloom over AA's F product on here. Transcon F's load factor is around 90%. It's not going anywhere.

I am not so sure. JetBlue's Mint looks like a better product at a better price.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:45 pm

Quoting AAplat4life (Reply 69):
An indication that the DFW routes to the new Asian markets will not sell well in premium and that the new AA cannot make it as a premium airline?

Its more of an indication, that all of AA's routes to China and DFW-ICN don't sell many seats in F. Both have no problem selling seats in J. The only Asia routes that tend to sell actual F for AA seats are to NRT. The new 777 will have even more J seats. Thats going to mean more revenue for these flights.

Likewise, I think you'll see the 77W going to the only places that sell F seats (i.e. LHR, NRT, and GRU). Verdict is still out on DFW-HKG.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:14 pm

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 63):
This is bad news. Here we go with the parkerization of AA. Pathetic. Thisman has no skill in running an airline. A real airline. Sad.

I'm sorry. Perhaps I am a little sleepy this morning. Did AA acquire US or was it US that acquired AA (while AA was in bankruptcy)?
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:25 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 64):
Im sorry, but rubbish. He did a really good job running US.


 checkmark  Doug Parker is a shrewd man and knows how to make the most out of the hand he's dealt. He did what he did with US because that was really all there is to do, and while the service standards may not have been the best, the airline he created is efficient and reliable.

Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 71):
I'm sorry. Perhaps I am a little sleepy this morning. Did AA acquire US or was it US that acquired AA (while AA was in bankruptcy)?

Neither. It was a merger, not a takeover.

Furthermore, AA's bankruptcy was done for business purposes; the carrier still had nearly $5 billion in cash.

[Edited 2014-06-18 06:26:42]
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Sorta like how HP and US "merged", right?

To wit:

"The deal is essentially a purchase of AMR by US Airways, as US Air shareholders will receive a share in the new company for each of their US Air shares." - CNN

"The expected takeover by the smaller, younger US Airways brings to an ironic end a consolidation in the domestic airline industry that has been going on, in fits and starts, for more than two decades." - Washington Post

"US Airways’ $11 billion acquisition of bankrupt American Airlines is a textbook example of what companies must do when their industry economics become abysmal: buy out the competition. " - Forbes

[Edited 2014-06-18 07:31:01]
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:33 pm

It's not that they cant sell F to ASIA I think F vs J there is very very little difference btwn the 2 anymore and for a couple thousand more it's really not worth it. I think it will 3 class J Y+ Y as the new standard cabin.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:43 pm

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 74):
It's not that they cant sell F to ASIA I think F vs J there is very very little difference btwn the 2 anymore and for a couple thousand more it's really not worth it. I think it will 3 class J Y+ Y as the new standard cabin.

Exactly. US airlines closed the gap between F & J so much so that there is not much difference. Then foreign carriers (especially in Asia) made F into something exponentially better.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm

Thats the issue. J Class is the new F class and Y+ is the new J class. Y class is still steerage.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:55 pm

Quoting AAplat4life (Reply 69):
An indication that the DFW routes to the new Asian markets will not sell well in premium and that the new AA cannot make it as a premium airline? Too bad, because its coach service is just bloody awful.

I am with you, and think the same thing happens to AA routes to Europe and South American. For Asia, those seem to be routes that need a more balanced plane than what AA has today on the 777-200. So going to an all J and Y plane and reducing the number of premium seats while increasing the number of coach seats makes sense. It is like BA, that has sub fleets of 777s (premium heavy and less premium heavy). AA does not want to have sub fleets, and looks like that is why they have the 77W premium heavy, to avoid 772 sub fleets. The 77W takes on routes that can handle that configuration and make money, like JFK-LHR, LAX-LHR, MIA/JFK-GRU. Then they will have a 772 with a different mix than that of the 77W for routes than can not handle F, like DFW-MAD during the summer or MIA-SCL during the winter. But that does not mean that ALL AA long haul routes can not handle F it the 3 continents they serve. Maybe HKG will be an Asian new route that will be able to handle F and the huge J configuration airplane, and so will NRT from DFW in the future. But China and Korea does not seem to be routes that can handle premium heavy planes like the 777-200 configuration AA has currently. I think AA is making a smart move and if it was me, I would definitely go to at least 290 seats on those planes. Even if that means 3-4-3 all over coach. But again, great to see a small section of 3-3-3 for people willing to pay an extra in Y to AA or have premium frequent flyer status.

To me, the new AA J seat on the 77W is amazing, and even if it takes more physical space than DL J seat uses in their 772. If they are installing those from the 77W on the 772, and still use more space than DL does, well, it might be worth it even if Y has to go 3-4-3 instead of DL 3-3-3 to make for the lost space. I still think that the average Y passenger books the cheapest ticket they can find for their intended route. If not, EK would be empty and QR would be flying full.

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 74):
It's not that they cant sell F to ASIA I think F vs J there is very very little difference btwn the 2 anymore and for a couple thousand more it's really not worth it. I think it will 3 class J Y+ Y as the new standard cabin.

Well, I also think like that, and think that is the new trend. After experiencing AA's new J seat on the 77W, I just could not see why someone would pay more to be in the F section. The J seat is amazing and every seat has a fully flat bed with isle access and lots of space. I even like J on the 77W more than F on the 772. But then, again, I keep forgetting that that is just me and I should never forget and also research on why JFK-LAX and JFK-LHR have F sections that sell really well. This might indicate that there is more to F than just the amazing seat, and that is something that super rich people or super important people like high rank executives with Fortune 500 corporations can tell. But again, there are also FEW routes that can justify the extra F cabin on AA's planes. But seems to be working really well for AA with their A321T routes and 77W s to JFK-LHR.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:04 pm

Mind you also that with the introduction of the 332s and 333s, AA will have additional flexibility to run different seating configs on different routes. The 332 in particular, while offering a very nice J class hard product, offers comparatively few J class seats - 20 of them. I don't know if they block one of the seats for crew rest, even when there is a cabin right behind the cockpit (might flight deck crew only).
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:09 pm

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 63):
This is bad news. Here we go with the parkerization of AA. Pathetic. This man has no skill in running an airline. A real airline. Sad

This is how it starts! Soon we'll be remembering how great AA's J seat (never) was on the 777/767. Bring on the rose colored clown glasses 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:40 pm

There is no truth to the rumor that the stand up bar is going away on the 777-200. Just got confirmation on our internal website that plans are still firm. They will be adding it to the airplane while getting the mods.....
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Just to be clear since its the main topic of this thread. Was it confirmed at the leadership conference?


The 777-200s will be reduced in J and the bar will be eliminated?

Was it confirmed that this would happen for the 773 as well?
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:59 pm

Quoting Aacun (Reply 80):
There is no truth to the rumor that the stand up bar is going away on the 777-200. Just got confirmation on our internal website that plans are still firm. They will be adding it to the airplane while getting the mods.....

That's a relief. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:14 pm

The Parkerization of AA is exactly what investors and employees should dream of. Customers, well, still up in the air on that one.

Parker is flexible and does what he needs to do to make money, and avoid losing money. There is a silver lining to that.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:31 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 71):
I'm sorry. Perhaps I am a little sleepy this morning. Did AA acquire US or was it US that acquired AA (while AA was in bankruptcy)?

The new airline is majority controlled by ex-AA, but US management mostly at the helm, although in-flight services, customer relations and frequent flyer program execs came from AA, not US (though did US Airways even have in-flight service and customer service departments? Not as if one could tell).

Also, not only is the info on the bar removal supposedly false, I'm hearing that the original configuration stands. We'll see.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:12 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 84):
The new airline is majority controlled by ex-AA, but US management mostly at the helm, although in-flight services, customer relations and frequent flyer program execs came from AA, not US (though did US Airways even have in-flight service and customer service departments? Not as if one could tell).

Also, not only is the info on the bar removal supposedly false, I'm hearing that the original configuration stands. We'll see.

I really really hope you are right. With 3-4-3 in Y anything that makes these planes a little more premium is welcome IMO.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:30 pm

Quoting user444555 (Reply 85):
With 3-4-3 in Y anything that makes these planes a little more premium is welcome IMO.

Of course, a walk up bar in J/F won't do the person stuck back in that 3-4-3 much good so it'll suck just as much as it would have otherwise.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:50 pm

Quoting 777stl (Reply 86):
Of course, a walk up bar in J/F won't do the person stuck back in that 3-4-3 much good so it'll suck just as much as it would have otherwise.

I was referring to the possibility that J Class will remain at 45 seats. I should have been more clear. My bad.  
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:05 pm

Bloggers who reached out to AA are saying even MCE will go 3-4-3 ... that's a big minus for mid tier elites stuck in the back
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:29 pm

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 88):
Bloggers who reached out to AA are saying even MCE will go 3-4-3 ... that's a big minus for mid tier elites stuck in the back

Its not as bad as you make it out to be. I've flown the 777-300 several times and no ones complaining, quite the opposite.

[Edited 2014-06-18 15:30:15]
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:42 pm

Quoting miaami (Reply 89):

Still a downgrade from 3-3-3 MCE nonetheless

"It's for profitability" blah blah ... we heard the sales pitch before

[Edited 2014-06-18 16:55:35]
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:12 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 90):

Do you have confirmation of that or just fanning some flames?
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:16 am

Do some homework before accusing

boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2014/06/18/american-reducing-777-200-business-class-cabins/

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 91):
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:34 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 70):
Likewise, I think you'll see the 77W going to the only places that sell F seats (i.e. LHR, NRT, and GRU). Verdict is still out on DFW-HKG.

I'm surprised that GRU F demand is in the same league as NRT and LHR. Not disputing your facts, just curious what drives that and whether it's always been the case or a relatively recent phenomenon.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:51 am

Quoting DFWguy81 (Reply 93):
I'm surprised that GRU F demand is in the same league as NRT and LHR. Not disputing your facts, just curious what drives that and whether it's always been the case or a relatively recent phenomenon.

Wealthy Latins. Same thing that drives EZE F demand; and that's always been the case with both markets, nothing new.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:59 am

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 94):

For a country on the brink of defaulting.... Again.... I'm not sure how that would affect F loads
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:24 am

Quoting DFWguy81 (Reply 93):
I'm surprised that GRU F demand is in the same league as NRT and LHR. Not disputing your facts, just curious what drives that and whether it's always been the case or a relatively recent phenomenon.

Just a thought: "all latinamerican banks have branches in Miami. bankers, specially Executive VPs and CEOs fly confirmed F, when they are not flying the banks private plane". But just a thought.

Then, if you take these to other industries, might find your answer. Considering Brazil is the biggest economy in the entire latinamerica region. Plus what others said, wealthy latinamericans vacationing with families in South Florida add to the equation.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:30 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 88):
Bloggers who reached out to AA are saying even MCE will go 3-4-3 ... that's a big minus for mid tier elites stuck in the back

And a big inconsistency compared to the 3-3-3 MCE section in the 77W.

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 95):
For a country on the brink of defaulting.... Again.... I'm not sure how that would affect F loads

Hasn't defaulted yet, so we'll cross that bridge when/if we get to it.
 
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:44 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 92):

Do some homework before accusing

Thats a blog, not confirmation.
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RE: AA To Reduce 777-200 J Class

Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:01 am

Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 88):
Bloggers who reached out to AA are saying even MCE will go 3-4-3 ... that's a big minus for mid tier elites stuck in the back

And since a blogger posted it, it's got to be fact. Why would they configure 12-20 in a certain configuration - to then later change it to another? All seems very odd, and quite an unorganized article. We'll see in the end, what will transpire.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 98):
Thats a blog, not confirmation.

Exactly. But Jetblue1965, revels in anything that's negative.
"The low fares airline."

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