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SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:16 am

Wow.

Glad to see this inevitable shift.

717-200 getting deployed to SHV once daily starting in July. I realize this is not big news for the majority of a.netters in bigger markets, but for us, it will be the first time in years that we have had daily mainline service here from a legacy carrier.

I will be interested how this is played up in the local market. I had not seen it posted, but overheard an announcement on a local radio station advertisement about an upcoming event that touted Delta was bringing First Class back to the market. I figured it would have been a CRJ700 or some such.

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Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:21 pm

And out of curiosity, what are the limits on gate agent/ground staff labor agreements for outlying airports when mainline returns?

That is, at what point, if any, do mainline employees start staffing gates / check in again?
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:20 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 1):
And out of curiosity, what are the limits on gate agent/ground staff labor agreements for outlying airports when mainline returns?

That is, at what point, if any, do mainline employees start staffing gates / check in again?

I'm interested in hearing this answer as well. I used to work in RSW as a station agent for AE; we had 3 AE flight's a day from MIA but at one point had 3 DFW, 3 ORD and 2 STL flights on AA; yet was still considered and AE employee.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:40 pm

LFT getting a mainline 717-200 later this summer also.

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Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:57 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Thread starter):

717-200 getting deployed to SHV once daily starting in July. I realize this is not big news for the majority of a.netters in bigger markets, but for us, it will be the first time in years that we have had daily mainline service here from a legacy carrier.

Get a 2nd daily 717 in October too.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:06 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 4):
Get a 2nd daily 717 in October too.

Must not be loaded in system yet. I think it is a good idea. I had thought we would be getting CRJ900's first, but this is a pretty big leap.

Quoting zmatt1 (Reply 3):
LFT getting a mainline 717-200 later this summer also.

I saw that. Even more amazing is the metal AEX is getting. Delta is really going the smart way with this. I personally think capacity has been far too restrained and too many flights are leaving with near or at full loads. So you know some of those seats are the high fare buckets that may generate great yield but don't often get sold. Looking at seat maps (I know, unreliable), but looks like bookings are already strong for the summer.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:08 pm

I see BTR has 717 service in September, an MD88 and a 717 in October, and a A319 and 717 in November/December. Currently they just have one A319 a day with the other 7 flights being a mix of CJR, CR7 and CR9.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:27 pm

And to think, when I worked in SHV in '80-'82, we had at least 15 mainline flights.....a mix of 727-200s and DC-9-32s.



SHV is one of the original DL stations from 1929. Good to see it get mainline back.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:30 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 1):
That is, at what point, if any, do mainline employees start staffing gates / check in again?

I don't think they have a quota of daily/weekly/monthly mainline flights in order for it to be mainline, not like NWA used to have.

I worked for Comair back in 2007-2009 and 2010-2011. When I started in my outstation, we had nothing but 10 CRJ-200s and one or two CRJ-700s per day. When I left, and after the NW merger, we handled about 3-5 mainline flights per day to MSP and ATL, as well as several CRJ-900s/700s and a few CRJ-200s still. We had over 20 flights per day when I left. All the while, we were still contractors handling all aspects of the Delta operation. Today, my old station, like a ton of other Delta outstations are DGS handled (above and below).

I don't see Delta making any new cities, especially SHV, mainline because a few CRJ-200s turned into 717s or MD-80s/90s. The last time Delta had a big changeover in mainline vs. contractor cities was after the NWA merger. Why would Delta pay people more money to do the same job when contractors are doing it for much less cost and still making the average passenger think they're Delta employees with the Delta uniform and lanyards? It's a great facade that is saving Delta tons of money!
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:40 pm

I think most people would be shocked to see SHV schedule for Delta in the late 70's/early 90's.

I grew up on Delta flying out of MLU on the all of the milk runs. Those were wonderful days of travel with much more comfortable seats and service. I then moved to SHV in the early 90's and although the number of routes had dwindled, I was loyal as ever to Delta and the experience. The Mullen era, 9/11, and the CRJ200 chased me away and I haven't been back.

The biggest issue for me is that Delta doesn't head to SLC from here. Most of my travel is westerly. UAL's flight to DEN is apparently doing well.
If Delta ever decides to attempt to poach west bounders/mtn west traffic, I'll probably make the jump from UAL as their ExpressJet/operational side is just dismal.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:43 pm

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 8):
I don't see Delta making any new cities, especially SHV, mainline because a few CRJ-200s turned into 717s or MD-80s/90s.

I don't either. And United is following suit and crossing over to contractors at many out stations as well. We, the public, have had a choice between service level and price..and price won.

I expect history to repeat itself and many of these outstations with 5 - 7 flights a day to go back to 90's era scheduling of 3 - 4 flights a day on larger aircraft. We did just fine back then and we'll do fine again.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:00 pm

That's great news, being about an hour from SHV, its very possible I'll be using this service. I hope it does well.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:23 pm

So, DL service from SHV is to ATL and MEM?

BTW, when I was working there, we had, I believe, 2 non-stops to IAH.....direct service to STL and ORD and, of course, service to DFW and ATL (and stops between SHV and ATL).
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:52 pm

Guys and Gals. could we come to some type of agreement on the use of DAL,and are we talking about the city or the airline
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:53 pm

Great to see that SHV is getting mainline DL service even though it is 1 per day. Might open the door to more.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:56 pm

Now expect AS to announce twice daily nonstop service from SEA ...   
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:56 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 12):
So, DL service from SHV is to ATL and MEM?

MEM is long gone.

Quoting mayor (Reply 7):
And to think, when I worked in SHV in '80-'82, we had at least 15 mainline flights.....a mix of 727-200s and DC-9-32s.
Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 9):
I think most people would be shocked to see SHV schedule for Delta in the late 70's/early 90's.

My first flight as an unaccompanied minor in the late 1970s was LIT-SHV-MSY, a long-time DL milk run.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:32 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 16):
My first flight as an unaccompanied minor in the late 1970s was LIT-SHV-MSY, a long-time DL milk run.

We also had SHV-BTR-MSY, as I recall
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:40 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 1):

There are no limits, unless it has been negotiated in a union contract. Delta is non-union.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 16):
My first flight as an unaccompanied minor in the late 1970s was LIT-SHV-MSY, a long-time DL milk run.

I'm old enough to remember when it was LIT-HOT-SHV. I have a memory of seeing a DL DC-9 coming in for a landing at HOT sometime around 1970, but it was a long time ago and I may have imagined it. I think the flight went MEM-LIT-HOT-SHV-BPT-HOU.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:05 pm

This title confused me, for a second I thought it was 717 on SHV to Love Field, then I realized DAL was Delta in this case!
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:50 pm

Quoting SFJEFF (Reply 19):

I'm old enough to remember when it was LIT-HOT-SHV. I have a memory of seeing a DL DC-9 coming in for a landing at HOT sometime around 1970, but it was a long time ago and I may have imagined it. I think the flight went MEM-LIT-HOT-SHV-BPT-HOU.

Could have been.....I know when I started in '71 that we weren't serving HOT, to the best of my knowledge.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:11 pm

CO/UA used to practically rule Louisiana with an iron fist and AA was a close second. Is this a sign that UA is losing its grip? Pretty much everywhere in LA is served with UAX 50 seaters except MSY which is both mainline and RJs.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:36 pm

Actually, when Delta had DFW they had a pretty good stranglehold, although here in SHV, AA has had a big share for years.

With CO, they initially were all ERJ but then the virus of Colgan and the SAAB 340's hit. Reliability went south. I was very hopeful with the removal of all of the SAAB 340's things would improve, but alas, ExpressJet is the new Colgan operationally. Heck, we have a maintenance base here and they still can't seem to get the RON aircraft up in the air ontime 20% of the time first thing in the morning.

With DL returning to mainline service, word will spread especially amongst those with the spare change or decision making ability. It will be an easy pick up for local media/politicians to tout. The Achilles heel of DL's operation is the lack of westbound service.

We'll see what happens...yield will tell the story.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:18 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 23):
Actually, when Delta had DFW they had a pretty good stranglehold, although here in SHV, AA has had a big share for years.

When AA first started coming in ('81 or '82), they asked DL if they could do the ground handling. DL declined and I think Frontier eventually did it, but if it was a choice of an AA flight or a Frontier flight on the ground, they worked Frontier, first and AA would have to wait.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:37 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 7):
Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 16):

My first UAM flight was also DL and SHV. It was EWR-MSY-SHV milk run or two flights one aircraft as I never had to get off the plane, in '84. Probably a 727 but not positive. Did DL fly MD-80s on that type of route back then?
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:30 pm

Back in the early 70's SHV was a hopping place. You had mainline from DL, BN & TI. DL was the E-W carrier and BN was the north south carrier. My favorite DL milk run was DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-BHM-ATL. I think one of those also stopped in MGM before ATL.
BN had the OMA-MKC/MCI-TUL-FSM-SHV-MSY trips.

In 74' they opened the "new" terminal to meet the aviation needs of SHV in the year 2000. Little did they know at the time that by 2000 traffic would drop off tremendously and most everything became CRJ/ERJ.
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:56 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 17):
We also had SHV-BTR-MSY, as I recall

And SHV-AEX-BTR-MSY, too.
 
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:57 pm

Here is a 1983 schedule

http://www.departedflights.com/DL121583p114.html

I already looked on the 2nd page....no nonstops

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Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:32 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 27):
And SHV-AEX-BTR-MSY, too.

Slight correction--it would have been ESF (Esler Field), not AEX.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 28):

Thanks for the time table. It looks like it was LGA-MSY-SHV because there is no EWR and jfk was top late in day

I was only 11 and remembered where I was going more than if I left from EWR or LGA or JFK because we used them all.
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Quoting ikramerica (Reply 25):
My first UAM flight was also DL and SHV. It was EWR-MSY-SHV milk run or two flights one aircraft as I never had to get off the plane, in '84. Probably a 727 but not positive. Did DL fly MD-80s on that type of route back then?

MD-80s didn't show up until well past 1984
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:24 am

Mentioning LFT...CAL had 735 flights not too long ago and is starting DEN in August using 145's
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:27 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 28):
Here is a 1983 schedule

http://www.departedflights.com/DL121583p114.html

I already looked on the 2nd page....no nonstops

I love the SHV-MSY flight available for purchase with a connection in BTR.

Things were so much more interesting back then.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:51 am

My first flight as an unaccompanied minor was SHV-MSY.

On an almost empty L-1011.

SHV is a nice airport--easy to get in and out of. Mainline coming back will be good for the region, although MLU will have issues--the removal of mainline from there was a huge deal. Actually, not having the annual meeting there was a huge deal too.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:07 am

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
On an almost empty L-1011.

I never knew they flew L10's into SHV. Interesting.

When I was in college at LaTech in '97, I used to drive over to SHV from time to time. DL 727's and M80's were still commonplace, and TW was running 3X daily DC9-30 service to STL at the time.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:36 am

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
On an almost empty L-1011

you sure about that????

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
although MLU will have issues--the removal of mainline from there was a huge deal

It really was and still is. MLU is doing okay load factor wise (not sure about yield) with current service, but from a pure fanboy emotional standpoint, it is almost an insult not to have Delta mainline in Monroe.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 35):
I used to drive over to SHV from time to time. DL 727's and M80's were still commonplace

And sitting at the dirt parking lot on the north end and listening to the roar of those take offs.....and the pure pleasure of a DFW diversion night....727's, MD80's, Tristars, I've seen it all there at one time or another.

But that's a bit off topic.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:41 am

Quoting SFJEFF (Reply 29):
Slight correction--it would have been ESF (Esler Field), not AEX.

That's true--completely forgot about that.
 
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Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 27):
And SHV-AEX-BTR-MSY, too.

There were times when they would remove the ESF pax at SHV (mostly GIs, anyway) and bus them from there, IF it was running late. ESF was not a lighted field.....couldn't fly in there after dark. They would then go SHV-BTR-MSY.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 26):
DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-BHM-ATL.

Flight 511, I believe......it was a 727 when I was there, but at that time it was DFW-SHV-MLU-JAN-MGM-BHM-ATL........I took it once to get to ATL.

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
My first flight as an unaccompanied minor was SHV-MSY.

On an almost empty L-1011.

I doubt if it was scheduled.......the DL ramp wouldn't support that kind of weight. After I left, they had a bunch of diversions from DFW, because of weather and they had to park the Tristars on the taxiway.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:01 am

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 1):
And out of curiosity, what are the limits on gate agent/ground staff labor agreements for outlying airports when mainline returns?

There are no limits as there are NO labor agreements. Delta simply decides. Oh the joys of not having union representation.

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 1):
That is, at what point, if any, do mainline employees start staffing gates / check in again?

I think as others have said, this station already has some Delta personnel at the gates...but the ramp is outsourced.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:09 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 38):

Quoting type-rated (Reply 26):
DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-BHM-ATL.

Flight 511, I believe......it was a 727 when I was there, but at that time it was DFW-SHV-MLU-JAN-MGM-BHM-ATL........I took it once to get to ATL.

I was speaking of the early to mid 70's when Delta served Love Field before DFW opened. It was operated by a DC9S. I don't think DL had 727's in SHV before 1979 or so. I don't remember the SHV-AEX-MSY flight, that must have come after 1974.

I only flew out of the new terminal twice. All my other flights were out of the "little house" terminal with the cattle trough.

I remember around 1972 or so the runways at SHV were thickened to accommodate 747's. So I'm surprised that they didn't thicken the ramp too. After all when you land a 747, you gotta put it somewhere, right? I believe SHV did have a few 747s come in as diversions over the years.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:43 am

Deja vu. The last time I flew into SHV was in a Cessna Skylark in 1961 to drop off a Delta passenger. He left in a DC-6.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:03 am

I am excited to have a fraction of mainline returning to SHV. And, I'm hopeful that this will lead to other mainline service in the future. For the last 7 plus years, the oil and gas industry was drilling the Haynesville shale, however, the play was mediocre at best. But, owning a frack sand truck company, we've been buying up trailers because, ( when we can FIND them), to bulk up our fleet. The reason is because within the next year and a half, drilling is coming back 10 fold in this market, and going to be here for the foreseeable future. I've had many meetings this past 6 months, and without a doubt, this play is gonna make the Barnett shale, which was a huge economic boost for the DFW area, look quiet small.
So, what could this mean for this market? I don't know, but I have to believe its gonna be very lucrative for airline service in and out of SHV.

Like some have mentioned, in this thread, back in the 70's oil/gas boom, SHV was a site to behold. It was not uncommon to see every gate full of 727, 732's and DC-9's, and even a jet or 2 hard stand near the tac-air terminal. Shreveport was a very powerful city back then, and if history has a tendocey to repeat itself, I'd say that SHV has no where to go, but up. I guess we wil see.
The thing that kills SHV, and has since the mid 90's is the cost to fly from here. It's insane, but I assume if you broke it down in real numbers, it's not far off base compaired to other regional airports. Last I heard, SHV ranked 7 or 8, as one of the most expensive airports to get in/out of. We hemorrhage passengers numbers down Interstate 20 to DFW, just due to cost. But, I'm not an expert in airport/airline number crunching. Just going on what I see and hear.

But, I hope this leads to bigger things here. I believe a great, strong route, that's sorely needed is a SHV-LAX, flight. The movie industry is still strong here, and looks to be staying that way.

Ok, off the soapbox!  

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Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:30 am

Quoting type-rated (Reply 40):

I remember around 1972 or so the runways at SHV were thickened to accommodate 747's. So I'm surprised that they didn't thicken the ramp too. After all when you land a 747, you gotta put it somewhere, right? I believe SHV did have a few 747s come in as diversions over the years.

Well, this is what I was told AND, I can recall when working on the ramp, if we had a heavy rain, when the a/c taxied into the gate, water would squirt up between the sections of ramp in that area......didn't drain too well because it was just hard clay underneath.

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 42):
in this thread, back in the 70's oil/gas boom, SHV was a site to behold. It was not uncommon to see every gate full of 727, 732's and DC-9's,

I presume you don't mean the 737s were Delta's as we never had any until about 1984. When I was there it was all 727-200s and DC-9s.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:19 pm

Well....I was saving this for future use....but...here goes.

Here is a pic of SHV with 4 Delta DC-9s.....all baby DC-9s to boot! (I think)

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Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:33 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 36):

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
On an almost empty L-1011

you sure about that????

Not positive, but I think so.
 
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:37 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 44):
Well....I was saving this for future use....but...here goes.

Here is a pic of SHV with 4 Delta DC-9s.....all baby DC-9s to boot! (I think)

[img=http://s25.postimg.org/469yneniz/SHV.jpg]

Great pic!
Is that a Braniff BAC 1-11 on the runway?
 
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:38 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 40):
I remember around 1972 or so the runways at SHV were thickened to accommodate 747's. So I'm surprised that they didn't thicken the ramp too. After all when you land a 747, you gotta put it somewhere, right? I believe SHV did have a few 747s come in as diversions over the years.

My father, who grew up in Shreveport and used to have an IFR license, told me that the reason SHV had such a long runway was because it served as an alternate landing field for the Strategic Air Command bombers that were based at Barksdale in Bossier City.
 
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:59 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 44):
Well....I was saving this for future use....but...here goes.Here is a pic of SHV with 4 Delta DC-9s.....all baby DC-9s to boot! (I think)

Any idea what year this was? The occupied gate that you see on the DL side, towards the top of the photo.....right in front of the DC-9 was DL's operations offices.....little further down was the ticket counter and then the bagroom.

Quoting Nola (Reply 47):
My father, who grew up in Shreveport and used to have an IFR license, told me that the reason SHV had such a long runway was because it served as an alternate landing field for the Strategic Air Command bombers that were based at Barksdale in Bossier City.

I know that one day they were shooting touch and goes with the flying command post, E-4.......I was told that the Air Force used SHV because they had an ILS and the pilots used that because Barksdale didn't have ILS. Was much the same situation at SLC and Hill AFB.


Even if the ramp COULD support an L-1011, I don't think there would be room for more than one and it would have to be the first gate.......not sure if ANY of the jetways would work for a widebody. I do know that after I left, they had a scheduled DC-8-71 from DFW (thru to ATL, I believe).
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:11 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 48):
Any idea what year this was?

Nope....I figured you would know more than me.   
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