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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:16 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 44):
Well....I was saving this for future use....but...here goes.

Now THAT is a classic pic.
I remember landing on the milk run from MLU to DFW and seeing 3 additional DL planes at the gates. Great shot.

Quoting mayor (Reply 48):
Even if the ramp COULD support an L-1011

I don't think any of the jetways there could have ever handled a Tristar. They were all extremely stubby jet bridges. I remember American adding the big gate at one time.

Based on what I see of future bookings, me thinks the 717 will have a bright future here. I don't think that will put pressure on the other carriers to change their deployment as they just don't have the mainline aircraft to do it with.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:18 pm

Prior to this new DL service what was the most recent mainline service into SHV? Was it the Vision 734s to VPS?
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:21 pm

G4 still flies in here.

I was scorched on here before for mentioning that G4 should look into the Florida Panhandle vacation package/flight combo, but those flights to VPS were extremely popular here. But I think to be successful, they need the package deal with condo stays to make it stick. G4 could run that from multiple stations throughout the South.

However, this is about DL and the 717 returning DAILY..so I'll truncate those thoughts.

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Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:30 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 43):
I presume you don't mean the 737s were Delta's as we never had any until about 1984. When I was there it was all 727-200s and DC-9s.

That is correct. That post was made a little late, and I was extremely tired. However, I should have painted a bigger picture on my original thought. When I speak of SHV, the era I'm generally speaking of the times between...eh, 74 to 86. Those 12 years where great times at SHV, that I remember.

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 50):
I don't think any of the jetways there could have ever handled a Tristar. They were all extremely stubby jet bridges. I remember American adding the big gate at one time.

I don't think they could either. However, I have seen the Tristar parked on the ramp before. She sat on the southwest corner of the gate area. I'm assuming where gate 4 or 5 would have been. Also had the pleasure of seeing 2 Tristars on SHV property. March of 96. I was a young firefighter assigned to station 16, that sat on the hill on Hollywood ave. DFW had a major severe weather outbreak, that shut it down for hours. 1st jet to devert here was a ValueJet 9, and for the next two hours, jets were landing...what seemed every. 3-5 minutes. The taxiways of 5/23 were stacked nose to tail. All the gate parking was full, including the parking area at the base of the tower. Tac-Air took overflow. It was insane to see so many jets here. The biggest that landed were the 2 Tristars, and a FedEx DC-10. The Delta Tri's were parked along next to the cargo area at Tac-Air. The only visible part of them, from my vantage point, were their beautiful tails sticking above the old terminal. The 3 Tac-Air fuel trucks, and the ground support staff sure earned their money that shift.

Have not seen a DFW ground stop of that magnitude, since. We may get 10 diverts, if were lucky.
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:31 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 52):
G4 still flies in here.

Totally forgot about G4. Silly mistake. Nice to see G4 stick around and see success in SHV.
 
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:34 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 51):

Yep, I think Vision's time here lasted all of 17 minutes.  
I think they lasted, 3 months, maybe? Hard to remember.

G4 is doing pretty dang good here.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:48 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 38):
ESF was not a lighted field.....couldn't fly in there after dark.

Are you sure about that? Delta timetables on departedflights.com show Delta flights at ESF that were definitely at night, including one at 11:05 PM in the March 1 timetable of 1973 and one at 7:15 PM in the December 15, 1979 timetable.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:23 am

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 53):

Yeah, I mean back then air stairs were used quite a bit. Also the tail stairs on the 727. It was no big deal not to have a jet bridge in warm climates.

The you have cold airports that used jet bridges with ATRs, so its a matter of what the elements allow.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:53 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 49):
Nope....I figured you would know more than me.

Well, unless I'm mistaken, the baby 9s were gone from the fleet by the time I got to SHV ('80), so this pic had to be before that.



DL sold its original DC-9-14s to Southern Airways in '72-'73, so, if those are babies (and I believe they are) this had to be prior to '73.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:55 am

Great photo. And that is BN BAC-111 N1541. The only Ochre colored BAC-111 they had. This photo must have been taken not too long after the airport terminal was opened. BN got rid of their BAC's around the same time.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:59 am

Quoting SFJEFF (Reply 56):
Are you sure about that? Delta timetables on departedflights.com show Delta flights at ESF that were definitely at night, including one at 11:05 PM in the March 1 timetable of 1973 and one at 7:15 PM in the December 15, 1979 timetable.

Maybe I misheard the reason.....maybe the tower closed after the last scheduled flight. If they knew it would be after closing before it reached SHV, they could easily get a bus to Alexandria ready in time to accommodate the pax and their bags.

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 50):
I don't think any of the jetways there could have ever handled a Tristar. They were all extremely stubby jet bridges. I remember American adding the big gate at one time.

From what I remember of the jetways, the ones on the DL side didn't have that much range that could accommodate anything much larger than a DC-8 (if that) and only the other side of the terminal had jetways that probably could do that.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:09 am

Always nice to see the Ark-La-Tex region in discussions here. I've spent more than just a bit of time in the area - up the road at TXK - and would often visit SHV when I became bored  . Certainly glad to see DL return mainline to SHV, considering the legacy DL has had in that area.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 44):
Here is a pic of SHV with 4 Delta DC-9s.....all baby DC-9s to boot! (I think)

Thanks for that link...reminds me of a trip taken in Summer '77. Flying AA LAX - DFW, connecting to TI for TXK. The TI DC9 was a 1-stop, no change, via SHV. Arrived around the 18:00 hour and recall 3 to 4 DL DC9s departing in quick succession. Was (at the time) simply amazed at the level of activity for a SHV of all places!

Quoting Nola (Reply 34):
On an almost empty L-1011.
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 35):
I never knew they flew L10's into SHV. Interesting.
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 35):
you sure about that????

Just happened to look at my copy of the old Airport Activity Statistics book - 1982 edition, published by DoT. According to the SHV activity-by-carrier report, DL did indeed operate one (1) L10 on scheduled service. This was likely an equipment substitution.

The same report also shows AA having operated one (1) D10 - also a likely equip sub - flight to SHV during that year.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:12 am

Quoting type-rated (Reply 59):
Great photo. And that is BN BAC-111 N1541. The only Ochre colored BAC-111 they had.

I always thought that was a Southern DC-9....it says SHV was served by 4 airlines.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:22 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 62):
I always thought that was a Southern DC-9....it says SHV was served by 4 airlines.

SO never served SHV on a scheduled basis. SHV would've been served at the time (circa 1970) by BN, DL, TT. Carrier #4 would've been a commuter carrier.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:50 am

Quoting aaway (Reply 63):

Wasn't Royale the 4th airline? I also remember L'Express, but don't remember the exact years they "briefly" served.

I have a ton of old school pics of SHV, but unsure how to post them.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:53 am

Quoting aaway (Reply 61):
Just happened to look at my copy of the old Airport Activity Statistics book - 1982 edition, published by DoT. According to the SHV activity-by-carrier report, DL did indeed operate one (1) L10 on scheduled service. This was likely an equipment substitution.

Funny you say that, because I think the flight was in January of 83. I'd have to ask my father to be sure.
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:03 am

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 64):
Wasn't Royale the 4th airline? I also remember L'Express, but don't remember the exact years they "briefly" served.

IIRC, Royale got its start in 1970, so you should be spot on. L'Express was late 80s/early 90s - formed after Royale collapsed.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:08 am

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 64):
I have a ton of old school pics of SHV, but unsure how to post them.

I am no expert on this either.....but from what I know....scan them, save them as JPegs, then upload them to a photo sharing site....and then copy the link.

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:30 am

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:30 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 62):
I always thought that was a Southern DC-9....it says SHV was served by 4 airlines.

The tail is white, the body is yellowish brown(Ochre) and you can see the black anti-glare mask in front of the cockpit windows. Definitely a BN BAC-111. And it IS N1541 as that was the only Ochre BAC BN had. I flown on that plane countless times.
If it were a SO plane you'd be seeing a lot of blue.

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Quoting braniff722 (Reply 64):
I have a ton of old school pics of SHV, but unsure how to post them.

And we'd like to see them!
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:41 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 62):

I always thought that was a Southern DC-9....it says SHV was served by 4 airlines.

When I was there, there was DL, AA, Frontier, TW and I believe BN in addition to Royale ('80-'82).

Quoting aaway (Reply 61):
Just happened to look at my copy of the old Airport Activity Statistics book - 1982 edition, published by DoT. According to the SHV activity-by-carrier report, DL did indeed operate one (1) L10 on scheduled service. This was likely an equipment substitution.

The same report also shows AA having operated one (1) D10 - also a likely equip sub - flight to SHV during that year.

Don't know how the DOT qualifies a flight as "scheduled", but this may indeed be the diversion I mentioned about DL after I left in March of '82......possibly the AA was a diversion, also.
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Part of the new terminal expansion.

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:04 am

I was wodering....WOW 4 DL DC-9s....where the hell are they all goin?

Then I saw this:


http://www.departedflights.com/DL030173p68.html

Holy cow!! DL had 33 flights @ SHV !!!

Quoting type-rated (Reply 70):
The tail is white, the body is yellowish brown(Ochre) and you can see the black anti-glare mask in front of the cockpit windows. Definitely a BN BAC-111. And it IS N1541 as that was the only Ochre BAC BN had. I flown on that plane countless times.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:11 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 75):

33?? I didn't think it was that many. Not to shabby. I swear, back in the day, this airport was hopping, THAT, i do remember.

Wish it was still like that now.....
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:23 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 72):
Don't know how the DOT qualifies a flight as "scheduled", but this may indeed be the diversion I mentioned about DL after I left in March of '82......possibly the AA was a diversion, also.

Excerpt from the 1982 AAS:

"Data included for only those online airports at which aircraft departures were performed in scheduled service." Further, the glossary defines scheduled service as, "Transport service operated over an air carrier's certificated routes, based on published flight schedules, including extra sections. "

The widebody operations shown for AA and DL are included in the scheduled service column.

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 71):

Very nice photos, sir!   
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:25 am

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 76):
33?? I didn't think it was that many.

I forgot that back then the flight # range was based on flight #. The first flight is 512 to Alexandria. If you look at the bottom of the page it has equipment to flight # contents.


So,....flt 512    Flights 400-469; 500-799: (D9N or D9S) Douglas Super DC-9 Fan Jet
(D9N: First Class 12, Coach 80)
(D9S: First Class 24, Coach 65)
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:12 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 78):
I forgot that back then the flight # range was based on flight #. The first flight is 512 to Alexandria. If you look at the bottom of the page it has equipment to flight # contents.


So,....flt 512 Flights 400-469; 500-799: (D9N or D9S) Douglas Super DC-9 Fan Jet
(D9N: First Class 12, Coach 80)
(D9S: First Class 24, Coach 65)

Actually, I forgot...they had flight itineraries in the back

http://www.departedflights.com/DL030173p86.html


Some examples:

503 D9S ATL-JAN-SHV-DAL

778 D9S SHV-LIT-STL-ORD

296 72S SHV-MSY-ATL-DCA-BOS

457 D9S PQI-BOS-LGA-BHM-JAN-SHV-DAL

710 D9S DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-MEI-ATL

768 D9S IAH-SHV-MEM-IND-DTW
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:41 pm

Quoting aaway (Reply 77):
The widebody operations shown for AA and DL are included in the scheduled service column.

All I can imagine, then, is that both the DL and AA were equipment substitutions for a special event, because I can't imagine it being a regular thing. Now that I think about it, we had a Tristar substitute for a 727 for one of our flights in SLC, before the merger with WA.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:34 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 80):
All I can imagine, then, is that both the DL and AA were equipment substitutions for a special event, because I can't imagine it being a regular thing

He mentioned that it was a SINGLE event..not daily scheduled. So could very easily have been a on off thing. I also, like you, remember all of the diversions from the good ole days...planes everywhere. I still see up to 6 or 8 diversions here, but nothing like the 90's. However, if AA goes back to banked flights instead of the rolling hub model in DFW, then the numbers might go up.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 75):
Holy cow!! DL had 33 flights @ SHV !!!

If my mind serves me correctly, SHV may have actually been in the top 5 for Delta in terms of number of daily departures during that time period.
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:50 pm

FYI, the 2nd 717 RT is now loaded on delta.com.

Evening turn (which I think won't last with loads headed back to ATL at 6pm, but I've been shocked before. The ATL-SHV section should do very well at that time of day, though.

It won't really matter as the yields here have to be better than some of the $129 RT's on the east coast with LCC competition.

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 81):
All I can imagine, then, is that both the DL and AA were equipment substitutions for a special event, because I can't imagine it being a regular thing

He mentioned that it was a SINGLE event..not daily scheduled. So could very easily have been a on off thing.

The only event that comes immediately to mind that may have triggered equip subs would be the Independence Bowl. Wisconsin and Kansas State were the participants that year. Wisconsin has a fan base that, historically, has been known to travel - particularly during bowl season.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:02 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 79):
503 D9S ATL-JAN-SHV-DAL

778 D9S SHV-LIT-STL-ORD

296 72S SHV-MSY-ATL-DCA-BOS

457 D9S PQI-BOS-LGA-BHM-JAN-SHV-DAL

710 D9S DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-MEI-ATL

768 D9S IAH-SHV-MEM-IND-DTW

Does anyone know whether meal service was provided on each of these segments? I grew up a WN kid rarely venturing beyond Texas, so I never had the pleasure of being on a DL milk run.
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:09 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 81):
If my mind serves me correctly, SHV may have actually been in the top 5 for Delta in terms of number of daily departures during that time period.

I had a feeling it wasn't but I looked anyway.

I checked:

MEM
TPA
ORD
DAL
BOS
DTW
MIA

obviously, add in ATL


.....so that's 8

I did not even check NYC area.


WOW...DL flew MIA-SFO???? Didn't know that!
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:53 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 82):
Evening turn (which I think won't last with loads headed back to ATL at 6pm, but I've been shocked before. The ATL-SHV section should do very well at that time of day, though.

I dunno, I believe once people of the Ark-La-Tex realize that evening mainline flight to Atlanta is available, numbers might surprisingly look pretty good. We can only hope, right?

I just hope that this, "Might" be the tip of the iceberg for SHV.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:59 pm

Quoting aaway (Reply 83):

That was sorta my thinking as well. Flights for the bowl games. But, I could have sworn there was a brief time that DL used a Tristar, or even a 757, maybe.... during a summer schedule in the mid '80's.
So long ago and hard to remember.....might be nothing more than a sub, like we've already established them doing from time to time.

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:30 pm

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 84):
Does anyone know whether meal service was provided on each of these segments?

You have to look at each destination city out of SHV
http://www.departedflights.com/DL030173p68.html

For example, flight 503 shows "Snack" on the way to DAL

Checking flight 296:
the one-stop to ATL - no meal
the two-stop to DCA - Breakfast
the three-stop to BOS - Breakfast

Now if you are a real airline geek, you look up both ATL to Washington schedules and then Washington to Boston schedules. Flight 296 has breakfast on both flight portions, so if you flew all the way to BOS, you get breakfast twice!
 
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:16 pm

I remember getting full breakfast from SHV to ATL just after 9/11 on a 727...but that was up front.

I know the flight attendants attempted full beverage service from SHV to DFW and usually got close. That was back in the day when I was thrilled to find out that they made such a thing as honey roasted peanuts.

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 86):
just hope that this, "Might" be the tip of the iceberg for SHV.

I thought that UA was crazy for scheduling SHV-DEN in the evening..but it worked great. (They have shifted to an AM dep to DEN this month).

Overall, I think the airlines in this country went way overboard on the capacity control issue. Now with fuel running high and 50 seaters no longer economical in many markets, we'll see what comes of it.
The demand is here. Don't let anyone fool you. The gas field business may not be the boomtime it was 3 years ago, BUT the workers are still going back and forth to the other areas in the country and are in demand because of experience.

Relatively high fares with good loads has got to equal stable yields.
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:31 pm

Quoting deltacto (Reply 88):
Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 84):
Does anyone know whether meal service was provided on each of these segments?

On 778 D9S SHV-LIT-STL-ORD it was beverage service only. But the F/A's did get a round of drinks out on each flight segment. The same with 710 DAL-SHV-MLU-JAN-MEI-ATL too.

Witt the short flight time between stations on these routes the F/A's had to scurry.

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:37 pm

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 87):

That was sorta my thinking as well. Flights for the bowl games. But, I could have sworn there was a brief time that DL used a Tristar, or even a 757, maybe.... during a summer schedule in the mid '80's.
So long ago and hard to remember.....might be nothing more than a sub, like we've already established them doing from time to time.

As I mentioned earlier, sometime after I left in '82, SHV had a DC-8-71 on a thru flight from DFW, probably to ATL.
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:23 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 92):

What's funny tho is that AE has been subbing a 700 in here, "almost" every day for the past year. Was this some kind of test by them? Not much excitement, at least not from me on this news.

Wonder what United will do…..
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Quoting braniff722 (Reply 93):
Wonder what United will do…..

Guessing absolutely nothing. They are 3 years behind the curve here. Only my opinion and not worth much, but they would be better served going daily double to Denver first. They have way too many stations that are larger that need the upgauge from 50 seater. Additionally, their operation here in terms of maintenance delays/crew delays is reprehensible.

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 93):
What's funny tho is that AE has been subbing a 700 in here, "almost" every day for the past year

You sure about that? Flightaware will show it, but it is almost always wrong.

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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:42 pm

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 94):

Yes sir, I'm sure. It's not everyday, but 700's are here at least 4 to 5 times a week. Usually in the evening. And, let me be clear that it is 1 flight with a 700. My truck office is at the old FexEx/Delta cargo center east of the Tac Air terminal. I'm at SHV almost every day.

Now, if they were bringing in a 319 or something, I'd say that would be news worthy! Who knows, maybe one day.  Wink

[Edited 2014-06-24 08:53:18]
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:13 pm

Just curious...do the casinos in SHV provide any kind of subsidies to the airlines that fly into SHV?
 
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:19 pm

Quoting dfwjim1 (Reply 96):

Ya know, I'm not sure if they do or not. That's a good question. I haven't heard of any that do. Maybe there is something with G4, possibly, but can't really say.
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 95):
I'd say that would be news worthy

You think this might be a response to Delta's move or just the natural progression of retirement of 50 seat flying at Envoy that was happening regardless of Delta's move?

Quoting braniff722 (Reply 97):
I haven't heard of any that do.
Quoting dfwjim1 (Reply 96):
Just curious...do the casinos in SHV provide any kind of subsidies to the airlines that fly into SHV?

No casino subsidies.
 
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RE: SHV Gets Return Of Mainline DAL Service

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Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 98):

Bro, I think it's only because of the retirement of the 50 seaters. But, oh how Ive been wrong before. lol
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