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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): You would think airlines would have these details cleared up with local authorities before announcing the service. |
Quoting boeingguy26 (Reply 4): Send the 748 over to LAX 2x daily! |
Quoting boeingguy26 (Reply 4): That's unfortunate. I'm blessed to see the LH 748 approach into LAX every day and it's exciting every time. Send the 748 over to LAX 2x daily! (one can dream) |
Quote: “Aircraft deployment and rescheduling is a very normal practice in aviation industry and is based on many factors. Our plans to deploy the A380 to Mumbai have been made in view of the growing demand in the Indian market,” Lufthansa said in a statement. We change aircraft size according to demand in the markets and we are pleased to say that in view of the growing demand we plan to introduce the A380 in Mumbai instead of B747-8. |
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9): How is LH going to send the A380 to BOM if the sole gate is allocated to EK? |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 10): You missed the part where BOM is building a new VLA gate. |
Quoting blue100 (Reply 6): Anyone know if LH is planning to utilize the 748 on LH404/405 to JFK as a result of this change in aircraft to BOM? A friend sent me the article below, which indicated that it would be used from mid-July through October. |
Quoting mercure1 (Reply 1): GOI's welcome gift to LH for having finally accepted AI into Star |
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12): Honestly, I thought they would've anticipated this. Or perhaps this is more fuel to the fire for anti-EK people |
Quoting ojas (Reply 7): And most importantly; do note that LH had the first claim of the B748 before EK, so if there was a tussle EK would have to retract their A380s not LH. |
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Quoting AviationAware (Reply 15): Quoting ojas (Reply 7): And most importantly; do note that LH had the first claim of the B748 before EK, so if there was a tussle EK would have to retract their A380s not LH. India is full of corruption, couple this with anti-corruption laws in Germany and none in Dubai, and there is nothing surprising about this anymore. |
Quoting AviationAware (Reply 15): India is full of corruption, couple this with anti-corruption laws in Germany and none in Dubai, and there is nothing surprising about this anymore. |
Quoting AviationAware (Reply 15): India is full of corruption, couple this with anti-corruption laws in Germany and none in Dubai, and there is nothing surprising about this anymore. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 16): And that's exactly why I'm all in favor of Germany not expanding their bilaterals with UAE until they learn how to deal with proper first world nations |
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Quoting iyerhari (Reply 22): Please stop making these statements in an airline forum. History is replete with such great scenarios already - if these nations don't want to deal with corruption then don't come into that market. |
Quoting ytz (Reply 23): Amazing. Westerners will readily attack India for being corrupt, but then defend wholeheartedly, their airlines right to fly there, while also attacking the ME3 for various standard propaganda items (state ownership of airlines, non-Western labour standards, etc.) Apparently, the concept of moral relativism and definition of hypocrisy is not as widely understood as I thought. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 24): So you're saying the proper way to conduct business in a corrupt locale is playing the same game and perform bribery and money laundering ? |
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Quoting iyerhari (Reply 26): As regards your suggestion for zero flights to India, pls. provide this guidance to the sales rep and I'm sure they will give it a thought. I |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 27): You totally missed my post. I'm sure LH would be in far better shape with zero India flights when EK has zero flights to Germany. You're painfully mistaken if you think LH's business model lives-or-dies upon BOM/MAA feed. |
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Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 24): So you're saying the proper way to conduct business in a corrupt locale is playing the same game and perform bribery and money laundering ? |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 29): I don't have a problem with India but I do have a problem with ME3 and their "business practices" |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 27): You totally missed my post. I'm sure LH would be in far better shape with zero India flights when EK has zero flights to Germany. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 24): And it's not hypocrisy - I've never step foot on a single ME3 airline. Can you make the same claim about Air Canada ? |
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): The airport only has a single VLA capable gate |
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Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 32): Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 24): And it's not hypocrisy - I've never step foot on a single ME3 airline. Can you make the same claim about Air Canada ? If you ve read his posts, you ll realize quickly that he objects to AC because of its anti-open skies policy. That anti-skies approach has been adopted precisely to limit his ability to avoid AC. The logic doesn't add up. |
Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 32): Don't know what the point of this is, but given that 85%+ of LH's traffic is sixth freedom, AI and 9W would gain from LH and Germans putting their principles where their mouth is. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 34): Canada has open skies with fair nations. What he wants is Canada open skies with any nation so he can buy 5cpm fares (possibly priced below cost) |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 34): he home carrier AC (that is required to service remote rural communities in the Canadian North) is destroyed. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 34): I have a hard time believing only 15% of LH's traffic is O&D considering how big a destination Germany is. |
Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 35): 87% according to the Indian DGCA, for 2009-2010. That makes it the latest sixth freedom carrier (EK 59, BA 61, SQ 49). Doubt its changed by note than a couple of percentage points. |
Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 35): Nobody can sell below cost. The Canadian Competition Bureau takes action when they do. They've already found AC guilty of predation on two routes in Canada. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 27): You totally missed my post. I'm sure LH would be in far better shape with zero India flights when EK has zero flights to Germany. |
Quoting SATexan (Reply 37): How so? Without the India feed the FRA -DFW/ATL flights would be toast. SFO/ SEA will take big hits. IAH won't be an A380 destination etc..,LH model may not necessarily live-or-die upon BOM/MAA/BLR/HYD/PNQ/DEL feed but their North American network as it is currently structured (coupled with US airways bolting to OW) will be weakened if they have zero flights to India. Further, LH has a very loyal base in India and is also the ONLY Star Alliance carrier from Europe with substantial presence in India having upto 50 weekly flights. The number crawls up to 65+ if you include Swiss Air and Austrian. So if LH has zero flights to India the entire star alliance will be in a little bit of trouble network wise |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 36): That's 87% (or 85%) of LH's traffic out of India. Your original post made it sound like 85% of LH systemwide is transfer. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 36): EK/QR out of Canada is probably north of 95% transfer. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 36): * * Experts agree with the CAG view. “Sixth freedom rights given to international carriers like Emirates and Etihad were one-sided. The same rights were not asked for Air India. So, it was never a level playing field for the national carrier. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 36): That only applies to companies that have their books open to see. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 38): The whole notion that ME3 lowers fares is a short-term fallacy. As another posted said in another thread, they're just the Walmart - come into town, ruin the local offerings, then back to regular prices when no more competitors left. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 38): Case in point - the ME3 is very close to killing KLM off DFW-AMS route, and thus 1 less choice for European-bound consumers. |
Quoting gennadius (Reply 39): This article seems to imply that, for some reason, EK having 6 flights and LH having only 2, meant that EK won out on who got to actually utilize the Code F gate. |
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 33): Sorry to ask...what's VLA? Very Large Aircraft? Wouldn't 744 fit in that category? |
Quoting seahawk (Reply 43): EK is probably the more important service provider and was preferred. It is typical German arrogance to think that they deserve to get the parking spot. |
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Quoting seahawk (Reply 43): EK is probably the more important service provider and was preferred. It is typical German arrogance to think that they deserve to get the parking spot. |
Quoting Jetblue1965 (Reply 45): Hahha nice try but I'm not German (or even European at all) Your walmart carrier can ruin local airlines all they want for governments dumb enough to let the wolf enter the sheep shack while I applaud china canada and Germany for keeping them at bay |