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A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:19 pm

When I think about the Airbus A300, I think about Airbus first a/c, the fourth of the first generation widebodies and the a/c which the highly successful A330 was based on. I also look at the A310 as Airbuses true competitor to the 767, because the 787 is Boeings answer to the A330, so I have grown a liken to the types. Now I know, that a few US airlines operated these type,( PA, EA, CO and AA) also both FX and 5X, still used A300s. Now, I just was wondering, what was some US airlines A300/A310 routes, international, domestic and cargo, from the 70s til now? If you have some stories, they are welcome.
 
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Short lived attempt to serve the ATL-LGB market and perhaps another one with three A300s.


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An unusual operator of the A310 within North America was Thai International. Huh? Yup, TG had an A310 or two based in Seattle to receive connecting pax from their 747-200B from Thailand and operate onwards to Toronto. May have even had local rights as this sector was trans-border (like Cathay can seek Vancouver to New York Kennedy). Didn't last long but it's an interesting one.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:12 am

CO started flying the A300 on the IAH-MSY route sometime around 1991. It was such a shock to my then 12-year-old avgeek system that I wrote a letter to Continental, who in turned forwarded it to Airbus, about what a great plane the A300 is (even though I never flew on it at the time). A few weeks later I received a small 1/200 scale A300 model in the Airbus house colors along with a letter from Airbus North America thanking me for my interest. I still have it to this day.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:31 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
An unusual operator of the A310 within North America was Thai International. Huh? Yup, TG had an A310 or two based in Seattle to receive connecting pax from their 747-200B from Thailand and operate onwards to Toronto. May have even had local rights as this sector was trans-border (like Cathay can seek Vancouver to New York Kennedy). Didn't last long

Yes TG had 5th freedom rights. It must have been a very unprofitable operation, like all TG services to North America for their entire history.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:38 am

Among the more exceptional operations were the Pan AM A310-300 flights to Europe from JFK to just about every city PA flew to in Europe from 1987 to 1991 when they sold the European division to Delta which took the Airbus A310 as part of the deal.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:41 am

Don't forget Northeastern A300s.

Air France tried an A300 JFK to... was it FDF? circa 1976. Was it 75 minute ETOPS, or just 60?

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Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:44 am

Back in the 2004/5 timeframe, I flew with AA on an A300 from SJU - MCO. The only thing I remember about the flight is that the plane seemed to shudder heavily on takeoff. Regards. -ir
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Airbus A300-600

American Airlines JFK - SJU and SJU - MIA back in 1990
 
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AMERICAN
A300-600
Domestic routes were primarily to/from Miami. I remember flying it from Boston to Miami.
Many Caribbean routes to from JFK, Miami, and San Juan. I flew from San Juan to Boston, Miami to St. Thomas.
A handful of flights to London/Heathrow (Boston and JFK come to mind.)

This is the only transatlantic A300 service I know.

The A300 provided cargo capacity for the Caribbean flights. American even had a ticket processing facility in Barbados, so the A300s delivered American Airlines paper tickets for processing there.

CONTINENTAL
A300
Domestic only, overwhelmingly from Houston. High-density flights to California and Florida in particular.

DELTA
A310-300
Some were ex-Pan Am, others were delivered directly to Delta.
Transatlantic flights, mostly from JFK. Berlin/Tegel, Lisbon, and Munich are the first to come to mind, but there were many more.

There were domestic tags, such as Cincinnati-JFK on the A310.
Delta also flew Cleveland-Detroit-London/Gatwick-Frankfurt with the A310-300.

EASTERN
A300
Domestic and Caribbean flights
Just like its successor, American, these were predominantly from the Miami hub to Caribbean destinations. But there were also higher-density transcon flights within the 50 states using the A300.

The A300 was also used on the Boston/La Guardia shuttle.

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A300
Like Eastern and American, these were primarily from the Miami hub to the Caribbean.

A310
Like its successor, Delta, these were used on "thinner" transatlantic routes. JFK-Berlin/Tegel is the first to come to mind, but there were many other destinations with the A310.

PAN AM #2
A300
These were transcon markets only: LAX-JFK and LAX-Miami. I think they might have had San Francisco as well. This was short-lived.

I love the A310. So I'm thinking of other airlines that flew the A310 on scheduled services to/from the United States.
I'm thinking of a few, with some example flights.

Aerolíneas Argentinas (Miami and JFK-Buenos Aires/Ezeiza, Los Angeles-Lima-Buenos Aires/Ezeiza)
Aeroflot
Air Afrique (JFK-Dakar)
Air France (Boston-Paris/Charles de Gaulle)
Air India (Newark-Paris/Charles de Gaulle-India)
Austrian (JFK-Vienna)
CSA (JFK and Newark to Prague)
KLM (multiple)
Kuwait Airways (JFK-London/Heathrow-Kuwait City)
Lufthansa (I flew Berlin/Tegel-Hamburg-Newark on the A310)
Lloyd Aero Boliviano (Miami-La Paz)
PIA Pakistan International Airways (JFK-Manchester-Karachi)
Royal Jordanian (Detroit-Amsterdam-Amman, JFK-Amman)
Sabena (Boston-Brussels)
SATA
Swissair (Newark-Zurich, Boston-Zurich, JFK-Basel)
TAP Air Portugal (Newark and JFK to Lisbon, Boston-Lisbon)
TAROM
THY Turkish Airlines (Newark-Istanbul/Ataturk)
Uzbekistan Airways


A few that I'm not sure about; maybe someone can fact check.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:29 am

at Eastern out of PHL we had A300 service to SJU..MCO. FLL
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:36 am

Wardair Canada also operated the A300B4 and the A310-304 to and from the United States.

Common destinations were LAX. SFO, SAN, PSP, MCO, FLL, TPA and PHX.


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14 A310s were operated in a 30F/168Y (later 24J/166Y) configuration.
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:36 am

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
A handful of flights to London/Heathrow (Boston and JFK come to mind.)

This is the only transatlantic A300 service I know.
LH also used the A300-600 for a while on some east coast U.S. and Canada routes fairly briefly. I remember they operated them to YUL for a while. PHL also rings a bell.

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Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:39 am

In 1989 I flew MEX - JFK in Pan Am on an A300.

Also 1991 I flew MIA -SJU on AA A300.

Can remember if Eastern Used an A300 in MEX routes.

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Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:55 am

Air Transat... sorry to forget about them. They flew the A310s on flights from Canada to US sun destinations.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:13 am

Haven't seen anyone mention Carnival Airlines. I know I flew then a few times in the mid-90's JFK-FLL round trip and once onward from FLL to NAS, all on A300-B2's with the older CF6's. They used to park at JFK T5, the old TWA terminal. I am pretty sure they parked on the int'l concourse H at FLL too, where a few years later I flew Tower Air from as well.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:29 am

Quoting longhauler (Reply 11):
14 A310s were operated in a 30F/168Y (later 24J/166Y) configuration.

Didn't Wardair have two different A310 configurations, one for domestic routes and another for Europe with more seat pitch in J and reclining sleeper seats?
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:29 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
Among the more exceptional operations were the Pan AM A310-300 flights to Europe from JFK to just about every city PA flew to in Europe from 1987 to 1991 when they sold the European division to Delta which took the Airbus A310 as part of the deal.

Some were A310-200s, also. When we took over the PA route from JFK-Paris-TLV, it was with -200s, but shortly afterwards, it was upgraded to -300s. I don't know what the range was on these or if they could go nonstop, TLV-JFK but eventually the route did go nonstop, using 767-300s.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
Delta also flew Cleveland-Detroit-London/Gatwick-Frankfurt with the A310-300.

I believe this route was part of the deal with the PA acquisition, but eventually a deal was made with NW to take over the route.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:28 am

Quoting maddogjt8d (Reply 15):
Haven't seen anyone mention Carnival Airlines. I know I flew then a few times in the mid-90's JFK-FLL round trip and once onward from FLL to NAS, all on A300-B2's with the older CF6's. They used to park at JFK T5, the old TWA terminal. I am pretty sure they parked on the int'l concourse H at FLL too, where a few years later I flew Tower Air from as well.

You are right! Carnival Airlines used to fly A300s in the mid 90s on their MIA-LAX route. They would come in and leave, around the same time the FF 747 on the JFK-LAX did.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:23 am




Here's the first one to come in to TLV in the DL livery, shortly after DL service started.





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Here's the first departure of the DL A310-200 out of TLV to Paris and JFK on November 1, 1991.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:31 am

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
DELTA
A310-300
Some were ex-Pan Am, others were delivered directly to Delta.
Transatlantic flights, mostly from JFK. Berlin/Tegel, Lisbon, and Munich are the first to come to mind, but there were many more.

There were domestic tags, such as Cincinnati-JFK on the A310.
Delta also flew Cleveland-Detroit-London/Gatwick-Frankfurt with the A310-300.

Delta operated a total of 30 A-310's:
7 A-310-200 from Pan Am
14 A-310-300 from Pan Am
9 A-310-300 new from Airbus

http://www.geocities.com/~aeromoe/fleets/delta.html

Lots and lots of transatlantic destinations from JFK
Plus a few from ATL - I don't recall if any of CVG's transatlantic flights were A-310
And as mats already posted: CLE-DTW-LGW ... I flew DTW-LGW and back in January 1992 with about 50 total passengers each way ... the LGW-FRA tag had not yet started

Domestic: JFK to ATL, DFW, CVG, LAX, SFO



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Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:32 am

Presidential also flew IAH-LGB for a short period with the AB3.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:39 am

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
DELTA
A310-300
Some were ex-Pan Am, others were delivered directly to Delta.
Transatlantic flights, mostly from JFK. Berlin/Tegel, Lisbon, and Munich are the first to come to mind, but there were many more.

I flew Delta A310-100 WAW-TXL-JFK in August of 1993. This was my first ever flight on a passenger airliner.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:06 am

As late as 2005, AA was still using the A300 on its Miami-San Jose, Costa Rica flights. I was lucky to fly them before they were replaced.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:28 am

I have to get me a flight on an Airbus A300 or A310 before they're all retired from the sound of it.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:41 am

Carnival is already mentioned however they flew MIA-LAX nonstop with an A300, starting in 1994. That route allowed IB to drop its MAD-LAX service but still offer a link between the two cities via MIA and a plane change.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:20 am

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
Air India (Newark-Paris/Charles de Gaulle-India)

As far as I know, Air Indiaonly ever flew to EWR with 777's and 744's.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
Austrian (JFK-Vienna)

Austrlian also operated VIE-ZRH-IAD for some time with the 310 during their Swissair partnership days.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
Royal Jordanian (Detroit-Amsterdam-Amman, JFK-Amman)

I believe it was AMM-SNN-JFK on the 310 as the aircraft could not do it non stop. That or AMS both ways.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
Uzbekistan Airways

I believe it was TAS-BHX-JFK on the 310 at some point.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:52 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
Didn't Wardair have two different A310 configurations, one for domestic routes and another for Europe with more seat pitch in J and reclining sleeper seats?

It was more of a transition from one to the other.

The aircraft were built with 30F and 166Y at WD. Then the seats at 10 A/B were removed and replaced with a closet making it 30F/164Y. (The last few delivered may have been in this configuration as this conversion was very early in operation).

It became apparent that the 30F seats (really, they were domestic F) were not competitive on the Atlantic, so all aircraft were converted to 24J sleeper seats with the 164Y.

With the merger, Canadian had a different mission for the aircraft. It was decided to be ultimately a domestic only aircraft so the forward J/Y cabin was converted to all J, with 48J seats. The final configuration before the aircraft were sold was in that 48J/132Y configuration.

It is very possible as you note, that with these changes in missions for the aircraft, more than one seat configuration existed.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:29 pm

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
CONTINENTAL
A300
Domestic only, overwhelmingly from Houston. High-density flights to California and Florida in particular.

In the Winter the CO A300s were concentrated from EWR. During the Winter/Spring months EWR-MCO was 9 daily A300s. In the Summer they moved to IAH for California flights.

CO flew A300s:

EWR-
MCO, FLL, PBI, MIA, TPA, SJU, STT, SEA, SFO, LAX, LAS, DEN, CLE, IAH, BDA

CLE-
EWR, DEN

DEN-
SEA, SFO, LAX, LAS, IAH, EWR, CLE

IAH-
DEN, LAX, MEX, MIA, MSY, EWR, LGA, MCO, SAN, SFO,
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:57 pm

Austrian also flew Chicago-Copenhagen-Vienna with the A310. It was a codeshare with SAS.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:40 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):
May have even had local rights as this sector was trans-border

Indeed TG enjoyed full 5th freedom rights on the route, over the years that TG operated this tag, it was operated by the 743 first, Then the 310 (that was based in SEA) (3-5x weekly depending on season) Then lastly the M11 operated the route until TG finally pulled the plug on SEA & YYZ & DFW before that, in favor of the larger LAX market.

I know for a fact that TG rarely if ever filled the flight (except maybe at Christmas time on certain premium days) especially in the F & J cabins.

When I took the flight we were upgraded to J both ways. There were exactly 3 people in J and F was closed completely SEA-YYZ, and there was one person in F, 9 in J YYZ-SEA. We were the only ones deplaning in SEA from the premium cabins, the rest were all going to TPE or BKK.

We luckily went shortly after the 310 left SEA, and we got to enjoy 2 new M11 aircraft on both legs of our journey. not my only M11 flights, but my first.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 2):

An unusual operator of the A310 within North America was Thai International. Huh? Yup, TG had an A310 or two based in Seattle

It was a sole aircraft, and it was very poor utilization of a widebody frame, IMO. The tag was less expensive to fly on the 310 even with 310 based crews to fly SEA-YYZ-SEA and nothing else
.

TG had a problem with on time performance on such a long route, so even if the 743 coming in from BKK & TPE were hours late, the 310 would still operate the SEA-YYZ on time, ensuring the flight operated on time the following morning back to SEA for the connections overseas

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
Yes TG had 5th freedom rights. It must have been a very unprofitable operation, like all TG services to North America for their entire history

For most of the years that TG flew the route, the agency I worked for was a high producing TG agency due to our Nepal programs. The fare for the lowest r/t was around $212.00 r/t without taxes, TG was just trying to gets butts into seats.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
CONTINENTAL
A300
Domestic only, overwhelmingly from Houston. High-density flights to California and Florida in particular.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
In the Winter the CO A300s were concentrated from EWR
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
EWR-
MCO, FLL, PBI, MIA, TPA, SJU, STT, SEA, SFO, LAX, LAS, DEN, CLE, IAH, BDA

The one and only CO A300 I ever got to fly on was EWR-SEA, just after a Thanksgiving weekend in the early 90s. As it was the 8am departure which was the EWR-SEA-NRT flight, the A-300 was empty, I was surprised, everyone had a row of seats to spread out. But the gate area for the SEA-NRT 742 was overflowing with passengers, luckily I was quickly connecting to a CO M80 for the short hop down to PDX a few gates away.

Quoting mats (Reply 9):
EASTERN
A300
Domestic and Caribbean flights
Just like its successor, American, these were predominantly from the Miami hub to Caribbean destinations. But there were also higher-density transcon flights within the 50 states using the A300.

My EA A-300 experiences were limited to just the PDX-SEA-PDX tags, shortly after I started flying to SEA a lot as a teenager EA switched from the L10 to the AB3 from ATL, services to MCI, STL & OMA were 72S or 727 operated, IIRC.
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Yup, TG had an A310 or two based in Seattle to receive connecting pax from their 747-200B from Thailand and operate onwards to Toronto.

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Austrlian also operated VIE-ZRH-IAD for some time with the 310 during their Swissair partnership days.

It originally started as VIE-GVA-IAD but was moved to ZRH when Swissair almost dropped GVA out of its network.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:25 pm

A few things I did not see mentioned:

Pan Am brought some of the A310-200s over in the winter, for JFK-MIA ops, at least in 1988. This was low season in Berlin, where they were based, and were named after German cities, Clipper Berlin, Munich etc. At the time they were two class configs: standard 6-across F and 8-across Y.

Delta operated some of the former PA A310-200s on the north Atlantic in summer 1992. CPH-JFK was at least one such route. I hear they were extremely marginal on the westbound sectors. They operated in a P-J-Y international config. Some of these made it down to DFW for connections out of JFK (as was later done with the 767-332ERs).

By the mid 1990s these A310s were back in Europe operating connections out of FRA for DL.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:03 pm

PanAm flew a Daily A310 operation for many years JFK - ARN (Stockholm - Arlanda) - HEL (Helsinki) this was taken over by Delta but was only a Daily flight JFK - ARN vv they skipped HEL.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:00 pm

In 1988, I flew a Continental A300 from DEN to LAX. At that time, CO operated A300s from DEN to: LAX, ORD, EWR, IAH, SEA, SFO

I flew on an Eastern A300 from DTW to MIA, sometime in the early '80's.

Re: Pan Am's A310's.. The DTW LHR route flown by A310's for sometime until Delta eventually replaced the Airbus with an L-1011.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:05 pm

CO A300s:

The first six they received in 1986 were ex-SQ and some white tails sitting in Toulouse. I am told that they had plumbing installed that would have allowed for a Pub (similar to the existing CO DC-10s), but this was never implemented. There was a further flood of ex-EA A300s anyhow, transferred to CO in the early 90s. By the time the CO A300s were at their peak, I think most of the A300s were indeed ex-EA, using the old EA seats and bulkheads.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:09 pm

SAETA of Ecuador flew A310's to Miami (1990s????). AEROCONDOR from Colombia and VIASA Venezuela flew A300s to the USA from South America; Lloyd Boliviano A310's from Bolivia to USA.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:18 pm

The A300 was a popular jetliner used on Caribbean routes; Eastern operated it from SJU on most of its routes; SJU-SXM, SJU-SDQ, SJU-BOS/BDL, SJU-ORD, SJU-ATL, SJU-MIA, SJU-PHL, SJU-JFK, SJU-MIA-MCO-ATL was a regular Eastern A300 run. Later in 1989/90s until early 2000's American flew A300-600s from SJU to almost everywhere; at one point AA ran a good 12 daily A300's just from SJU-JFK; around 6/7 a day from SJU-MIA and from SJU hub to most Caribbean islands; STT/SXM/AUA/SDQ/GND/UVF/POS/ANU. One of AA first A300 routes was JFK-SJU and SJU-ORD-LAS. It was common to see several AA A300s at a time in SJU during the flight banks. KW also flew former EAL A300s to SJU and from JFK/EWR to BQN/PSE. PA flew A300s from SJU-MIA and to JFK.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:31 pm

I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:33 pm

Speaking of the Caribbean, Air Jamaica flew both the A300 and A310-300 on flights between Kingston, Montego Bay, and the USA.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:34 pm

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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:35 pm

AA's A300s operated in two primary roles over the course of their 21-year service with the airline: (1) a high-density operation primarily between the eastern U.S. and Latin America, and (2) a lower-density/premium operation between the northeast and Europe.

As the former, AA's A300s operated routes including (among others): JFK-SJU, EWR-SJU, BOS-SJU, BDL-SJU, MCO-SJU, FLL-SJU, MIA-SJU, ORD-SJU, ORD-LAS, MIA-JFK, MIA-EWR, MIA-BOS, JFK-PAP, JFK-SDQ, JFK-STI, JFK-BGI, JFK-AUA, JFK-CUN, MIA-PAP, FLL-PAP, MIA-SDQ, MIA-LIM, MIA-BOG and MIA-SJO.

In the latter, more premium, configuration, AA's A300s operated JFK-LHR, EWR-LHR, BOS-LHR and JFK-ORY.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:40 pm

I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:53 pm

Quoting timz (Reply 6):
Don't forget Northeastern A300s.

Surprised there hasn't been more discussion of this in this thread. I think they leased two of the aircraft during their brief time in existence.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:19 pm

I was lucky enough to fly a Delta A-310-300 N540AB from Cincinnati to Paris Orly in the spring of 1995. It was a beautiful aircraft, great interior, quiet, and a good ride. One thing I remember is we had a strong tail wind and must have been pushing .9 mach because every now and then the aircraft would buffet a little. When we landed at Orly we parked next to a Delta 767-300ER from New York that was continuing on to Tel Aviv. We had several passengers on our flight were connecting to Tel Aviv.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:20 pm

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 43):
I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.

Eastern's A300s were the B4 model, which basically allowed for US Transcon-type services. AA had the A300-600 which was an upgrade featuring somewhat longer range, wing tip fences, and an empennage borrowed from the A310. This allowed for NYC and BOS flights to Europe.

EA's DC-10s were ex-Alitalia DC-10-30s. This did provide engine commonality with the A300B4s in the fleet, a considerable maintenance advantage.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:38 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 31):
Quoting SR 103 (Reply 26):
Austrlian also operated VIE-ZRH-IAD for some time with the 310 during their Swissair partnership days.

It originally started as VIE-GVA-IAD but was moved to ZRH when Swissair almost dropped GVA out of its network.

They dropped the operation via ZRH when Swissair started their own service ZRH-IAD. I flew the OS A310 service once GVA-IAD, probably around 1997. Very good service in J class. It was GVA's only nonstop transatlantic service then other than to JFK. It was a somewhat unusual 3-way codeshare depending on the sector. VIE-IAD OS/DL, VIE-GVA OS/SR and GVA-IAD SR/DL.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:37 am

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 46):

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 43):
I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.

Eastern's A300s were the B4 model, which basically allowed for US Transcon-type services. AA had the A300-600 which was an upgrade featuring somewhat longer range, wing tip fences, and an empennage borrowed from the A310. This allowed for NYC and BOS flights to Europe.

EA's DC-10s were ex-Alitalia DC-10-30s. This did provide engine commonality with the A300B4s in the fleet, a considerable maintenance advantage.
Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 46):

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 43):
I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.

Eastern's A300s were the B4 model, which basically allowed for US Transcon-type services. AA had the A300-600 which was an upgrade featuring somewhat longer range, wing tip fences, and an empennage borrowed from the A310. This allowed for NYC and BOS flights to Europe.

EA's DC-10s were ex-Alitalia DC-10-30s. This did provide engine commonality with the A300B4s in the fleet, a considerable maintenance advantage.

I thought the DC-10-30s, operated on the MIA-LGW route. From what I understand, EA wanted to operate the MIA-LHR. EA even bought or may be ordered 2 ex QF 747-200s for the route. As a matter of fact, one the 742s was in full hockey stick livery. Sadly the MIA-LHR route was given to Pan Am instead, so EA decided to do the MIA-LGW with the ex-AZ DC-10-30s, and the 742s ended up with People Express. It was the only time I can think of, that I was not happy with PA.
 
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RE: A300/A310 Routes Done By US Airlines

Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:01 am

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 39):
I believe the A-300s we had didn't have the range for MIA-LHR. That's why we leased the DC-10 from....sorry can't remember.

Indeed they couldn't use the A300 on the MIA-LGW route. Maybe, range wise, they could have, but I have to stress the maybe, on a flight out of JFK to say LGW. Other than that, no, even the A300B4-200 didn't had the legs to fly that far. AND, one should not forget that twinjets ETOPS over the Atlantic were quite new back then, and the A300 wasn't certified for it yet.

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 48):
I thought the DC-10-30s, operated on the MIA-LGW route.

You are right. Back then only PA and TW served LHR.

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