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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:09 am

NZE AKL SYD AKL tomorrow afternoon on proving operations. No pax, just crew. Something for the SYD planespotters!

Enjoy...
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:16 pm

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 50):

Auckland Airport Arrivals and Departures has NZE leaving as NZ6021 at 1430 and returning as NZ6022 at 2300. So, SYD arrival about 1600 and SYD departure about 1800.

ZK-OXF delivers tomorrow via CNS as NZ6399 but it's not showing on the Auckland Airport Arrivals and Departures. CNS-CHC?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:43 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 48):
Also eff. 05 Mar 2015 there will be a late morning We Th AKL-TUO-AKL DH3, but there's space in the 09 Feb 2015 schedule for that.

Had another look at this and it's just four flights, 04 & 05 March, then 08 & 09 Mar 2015. The 'Taupo Ironman' is on 07 March 2015. There could be some grabaseats in the opposite directions.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:23 pm

Minister Brownlee used an exit only door to get past aviation security with two staffers and board an Air NZ flight out of CHC without being screened. He offered his resignation as Minister of Transport, but Key didn't accept it. The CAA is investigating.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-investigate-own-ministers-actions

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:12 am

Looks like there's some trouble with a Q300 at NPL

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/1...steering-New-Plymouth-airport-shut

It's lost steering so it cannot turn off the runway. Apparently flights to and from NPL have been cancelled
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:23 am

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 50):
NZE AKL SYD AKL tomorrow afternoon on proving operations.

Is this a requirement for CASA to add the type to NZ's AOC? If so, what does a two hour stay in SYD prove?
 
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:15 am

Quoting PA515 (Reply 51):

OXF will ferry to AKL, not CHC. Get's in late, around 23:00 from memory.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:25 am

Apparently because NZ is taking so long on these proving flights etc NH might actually beat it to the first revenue 789 flight!
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:57 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 57):
Apparently because NZ is taking so long on these proving flights etc NH might actually beat it to the first revenue 789 flight!

Even UA is poised to beat NZ.

However this morning NZ posted on Twitter that their first revenue flight will be AKL-SYD on 9 Aug although this flight has not been loaded in GDS. NZ claim that NH's first pax flight on 4 Aug is a charter not a commercial flight.
 
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:00 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 55):

No, this flight is not driven by CASA at all.

Proving flying has an hour requirement that the airline must meet. An AKL SYD AKL is an obvious choice, as this is the city pair that the first ANZ 787 commercial services will be launched.

ANZ have a very conservative entry-into-service programe planned. I don't think they are focused on being first. They are focused on ensuring the aircraft and airline are ready so that there is no disappointment for Boeing, the Airline or it's customers.

Sensible in my view.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:16 am

Does anyone know if and when the 744 is doing any Tasman runs?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:30 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 60):

Does anyone know if and when the 744 is doing any Tasman runs?

There is one loaded to SYD on SEP 5th NZ103/104. Not aware of any others.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 57):
Apparently because NZ is taking so long on these proving flights etc NH might actually beat it to the first revenue 789 flight!

Sure remember this is the first of the type for NZ while UA/NH have 788s already in service.

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 58):
NZ claim that NH's first pax flight on 4 Aug is a charter not a commercial flight.

I thought i'd read that NH first scheduled flight was September.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:33 am

I see SQ are showing an 1145 STA for the NW schedules still a 1330 STD. I'm picking this is for the A380, nothing official yet and still showing 77W. Usual STA has been 1210 last few years.

This has been done before and then changed back, I wonder should the SQ/NZ deal not go through weather they will still send the A380 this year?

I had heard that it would depart earlier to give more space from the EK trio should SQ be delayed. Maybe it will change again, maybe not. I has thinking more arrive around 1100 depart 1300.

Either way I guess the NZ/SQ deal should be announced soon whichever way it goes.
 
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:59 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 61):
There is one loaded to SYD on SEP 5th NZ103/104.

As far as I can see it shows 103 as a 744 but 104 as a 777... Weird
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:20 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 63):
As far as I can see it shows 103 as a 744 but 104 as a 777... Weird

NZ's schedules certainly show a 744 both ways. Hopefully that won't change!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:26 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 62):


Either way I guess the NZ/SQ deal should be announced soon whichever way it goes.

It should be as good as a done deal. Both the New Zealand and Singapore Governments want another airline on the route and NZ won't start it up unless the deal goes ahead. Either way it's a win win for both airlines and customers (albeit not as great for customers as if it was proper competition). There are several benefits to the deal and my only thought on it is why the hell has it taken 8 years to put in place!
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:30 pm

Quoting texan (Reply 53):

Personally I think Jonkey-Donkey should have accepted his resignation and I hope the CAA files charges against Brownlee

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 65):
It should be as good as a done deal

Especially as Gerry Brownlee will be out to prove himself after his faux pas mentioned above

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 61):
I thought i'd read that NH first scheduled flight was September.

It is in the NH 787-9 config thread as such

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 59):
ANZ have a very conservative entry-into-service programe planned. I don't think they are focused on being first. They are focused on ensuring the aircraft and airline are ready so that there is no disappointment for Boeing, the Airline or it's customers.

Yep I think it is very wise. Apart from anything else, I'm pleased they aren't tiring the interior out too much flying it all over the Shorthaul network prior to sending it to PER. I seem to recall previous fleets showing signs of wear prior to longhaul use.

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 62):
I see SQ are showing an 1145 STA for the NW schedules still a 1330 STD. I'm picking this is for the A380, nothing official yet and still showing 77W. Usual STA has been 1210 last few years.

I'm fairly sure SQ have planned for it regardless of the approval.

Quoting PA515 (Reply 52):
There could be some grabaseats in the opposite directions.

the 1900Ds are the ones I want to fly more. Have flown most of the DH3 fleet already

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 42):
I wonder why ?

Probably because if they sent it to WLG/CHC during daylight hours it would generate too much attention. lol
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:45 pm

Interesting to note that NZ registered -NZE at a MCTOW of 244955kg which is close to 8t less than MTOW. This should allow them to haul 40t on a 13hr sector which probably fits their Asian needs quite adequately. Quite a increase from the ~23t of the 767-300ER w/winglets!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:10 am

Hi sunrisevalley

Where did you access the reduced wt figure for the ANZ 789? I believe ANZ will use every last kg of the available MTOW from Boeing. By my calc this is 557,000lbs or 252,650kgs.
 
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:44 am

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 68):
Where did you access the reduced wt figure for the ANZ 789?

From the CAA aircraft register . Now I have no idea of the implications of this MC( certified) TOW value. I assume that this is the value that NZ will operate the 789 at or is it value that landing fees are paid on and not necessarily for operational purposes ?
 
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:09 am

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 50):
NZE AKL SYD AKL tomorrow afternoon on proving operations. No pax, just crew. Something for the SYD planespotters!

There is a claim by an Australian on , I believe , the FlightAware blog that there were 134 passengers aboard. If this was so it would have constituted the first commercial flight of the 789 , or would it ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:12 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 69):

Quoting Aotearoa (Reply 68):
Where did you access the reduced wt figure for the ANZ 789?

From the CAA aircraft register . Now I have no idea of the implications of this MC( certified) TOW value. I assume that this is the value that NZ will operate the 789 at or is it value that landing fees are paid on and not necessarily for operational purposes ?


i wonder if perhaps this is what they have chosen for now as this aircraft will be operating shorter duration sectors (PER) for some time before more a/c join the fleet (at which time it will be uprated). Would save some landings fee's no doubt.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:38 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 70):
There is a claim by an Australian on , I believe , the FlightAware blog that there were 134 passengers aboard. If this was so it would have constituted the first commercial flight of the 789 , or would it ?

Most definitely not. Just the necessary crew and a few certifying related staff as passengers
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:11 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 71):
i wonder if perhaps this is what they have chosen for now as this aircraft will be operating shorter duration sectors (PER) for some time before more a/c join the fleet (at which time it will be uprated). Would save some landings fee's no doubt

They don't need more than what they have registered to do the Asian services. At the 789 MCTOW versus the MTOW, NZ is saving ~$115.00 plus GST per landing. When they get to a fleet of 10 aircraft this will be better than $1000 a day plus GST

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Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:03 am

"Air New Zealand plane suffers engine trouble at take-off"

An Air New Zealand flight from Hawaii to Auckland was delayed last night after suffering engine trouble.

The 227 passengers were returned to Honolulu airport after flight NZ9 aborted its take off late last night, the airline said.

The passengers stayed overnight at a hotel.

"The aircraft is currently being inspected by engineers and [an] updated departure time will be advised to passengers later today," an Air NZ spokeswoman said.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11300199
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:27 am

What is NZ6074, just departed AKL for LAX? A charter?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:31 am

It's ZK-SUH heading off to the boneyard in Victorville, its stopping at LAX on the way.

She spent nearly 20 years with Air NZ and is 23 years old. She will be missed.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:34 am

Quoting TheLifehouse (Reply 76):
It's ZK-SUH heading off to the boneyard in Victorville, its stopping at LAX on the way.

She spent nearly 20 years with Air NZ and is 23 years old. She will be missed.

   

She and I have kept company many times between AKL and LAX.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:57 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 77):
She and I have kept company many times between AKL and LAX.

I flew her just the once, 29.11.2007 AKL-HKG NZ87. Seat 17A. second row of upper deck. Aviation bliss
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:48 am

In December we will see the last movie of "The Hobbit" are we expecting NZ to produce another outstanding peace of artwork on their aircraft? could we see it on a 787-9 , ? they have one arriving in November. and it would be a great promotion to the fleet.  
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:14 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 74):
"The aircraft is currently being inspected by engineers and [an] updated departure time will be advised to passengers later today," an Air NZ spokeswoman said.

Still AOG two days later due to "evolving engineering issues" (NZ statement quoted in the Herald) which sounds a bit ominous in a Jurassic Park kind of way. The detailed explanation is a little less interesting, seems the first supplier sent the wrong part. Also HA transported many of the pax which while perfectly normal is a little embarrassing.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:30 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 79):

They did say originally it'd be only 2.. But then again it was supposed to be a 772 and a 77W. OKM/N could do with something before they get repainted.

Quoting seat55a (Reply 80):

While SUH just went to VCV! I would have went out to get a pic of a 5 engined 744  
Though even without a spare engine, they could have done with it for another cycle..
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:02 pm

Re the discussion about ZK-NGD's new home in the last thread.

A couple of posts on another forum yesterday said Nauru Airlines (previously Our Airline and Air Nauru) will get two ex Air NZ 733's "arriving soon".

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Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:03 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 78):
I flew her just the once, 29.11.2007 AKL-HKG NZ87. Seat 17A. second row of upper deck. Aviation bliss

Ah, so it was your "imprint" I felt, haha (just joking). I was in 17A as well:

15 MAY 05 SFO AKL 57J
27 APR 12 AKL SFO 18K
06 NOV 12 SFO AKL 17A

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:25 am

Air Transport Data Bank (ATDB) has ATR72-600 ZK-MVE as c/n 1182 and ZK-MVF as c/n 1185, meaning two aircraft for September 2014 delivery. Has Air NZ swapped a delivery position with VA?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:50 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 79):
In December we will see the last movie of "The Hobbit" are we expecting NZ to produce another outstanding peace of artwork on their aircraft?

Please, God, no............. make it stop.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:26 am

Quoting PA515 (Reply 82):
Re the discussion about ZK-NGD's new home in the last thread.

A couple of posts on another forum yesterday said Nauru Airlines (previously Our Airline and Air Nauru) will get two ex Air NZ 733's "arriving soon".

I can neither confirm nor deny . NGD should be departing Christchurch on Sunday.

Quoting PA515 (Reply 84):
Air Transport Data Bank (ATDB) has ATR72-600 ZK-MVE as c/n 1182 and ZK-MVF as c/n 1185, meaning two aircraft for September 2014 delivery. Has Air NZ swapped a delivery position with VA?

Possible, but to my knowledge VA didn't have a delivery slot in that period.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:43 pm

The 787-9 is on its way to Christchurch:

http://fr24.com/ANZ6025
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:05 am

Paint Update

OJR entered the CHC paint hangar today for a full repaint into the new fern scheme. Of note, the fuselage now will be white, not black...to match the rest of the domestic fleet.

When OJR exits on 16th Aug the first ATR72-500 MCA will be inducted for a full repaint.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:31 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 88):

So the beginning of the end for the All Blacks livery... When are OAB and OKQ up for repaints again?
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:38 am

ANA will beat NZ by 2 days into 787-9 services with services due to start on the 7th Aug.

"ANA today (31JUL14) announced additional details in regards to the first scheduled passenger service (including revenue / commercial service) for its Boeing 787-9 aircraft. The 787-9 will enter commercial service on 07AUG14, 2 days ahead of Air New Zealand’s planned commercial service inauguration.

From 07AUG14, ANA 787-9 aircraft to operate Tokyo Haneda – Fukuoka (FUK), Tokyo Haneda – Osaka Itami (ITM) and Tokyo Haneda – Matsuyama (MYJ)."

for a full breakdown of times you can find the info at the following link

http://airlineroute.net/2014/07/31/nh-789-update2/
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:05 pm

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 90):
ANA will beat NZ by 2 days into 787-9 services with services due to start on the 7th Aug.

I'm not sure it's really a big deal. It will still be first international flight. It was always going to be the case IMO, that NH or UA as established 787 carriers would integrate the new aircraft a whole lot faster. It's a bigger untertaking for NZ by a long shot than NH which already has Pilots/Crew and high density domestic flights to swap the flights onto,

At the end of the day ZK-NZE is very very late anyway....lol

NZ is being way more conservative by choosing not to publish schedules for the 789 early on, even though we all know internally where and when.
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:05 pm

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 88):
Paint Update

OJR entered the CHC paint hangar today for a full repaint into the new fern scheme. Of note, the fuselage now will be white, not black...to match the rest of the domestic fleet.

When OJR exits on 16th Aug the first ATR72-500 MCA will be inducted for a full repaint.

NZ1

This is not good, I was hoping to see the All Blacks livery when NZ flies their charter to ORD in Oct.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:59 pm

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 92):
This is not good, I was hoping to see the All Blacks livery when NZ flies their charter to ORD in Oct.

Is the final timing and other detail of this known yet?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:16 pm

Regarding ZK-NZE's service entry..Has the flight number been confirmed? Does the ticket still need to be flexi? Or is it just random equipment changes? I'm excited and want to book!!

Quoting seat55a (Reply 80):
Also HA transported many of the pax which while perfectly normal is a little embarrassing.

Reading the bit in The Herald this morning it seems some of the passengers are getting a bit grumpy about it. Since they get two extra days in HNL, $1,000 and the ones who need to travel urgently get booked on HA, I don't really see what there is to complain about.

Quoting PA515 (Reply 82):
A couple of posts on another forum yesterday said Nauru Airlines (previously Our Airline and Air Nauru) will get two ex Air NZ 733's "arriving soon".

Finally... a guess I made in one of these threads (previous edition, reply 207) was right. 
Quoting gasman (Reply 77):
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 78):
Quoting zkeoj (Reply 83):

Went in her [rather cramped] flight deck in 2009. 747s aren't exactly my favorite planes and the Rolls Royce powered ones looked better IMO. Still, I'm sure she will be missed.

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 88):
OJR entered the CHC paint hangar today for a full repaint into the new fern scheme. Of note, the fuselage now will be white, not black...to match the rest of the domestic fleet.

I'd have thought that -OJR would be of low priority, given that its current paint isn't very old. Why didn't an international A320 get priority? Or does the agreement with the NZRU state that the 'Crazy About Rugby' liveries have to be gone by a certain date?

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 92):
This is not good, I was hoping to see the All Blacks livery when NZ flies their charter to ORD in Oct.

Not to worry, ZK-OJR is an Airbus A320. I highly doubt that there are any short-term plans to repaint the 77W (ZK-OKQ).  
Quoting TheLifehouse (Reply 95):
ZK-OJS was repainted roughly a year ago with the fern added quite recently and its younger than OJR.

ZK-OJQ also got redone quite a while back.

[Edited 2014-07-31 06:48:48]
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:38 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 94):
I'd have thought that -OJR would be of low priority, given that its current paint isn't very old. Why didn't an international A320 get priority? Or does the agreement with the NZRU state that the 'Crazy About Rugby' liveries have to be gone by a certain date?
ZK-OJS was repainted roughly a year ago with the fern added quite recently and its younger than OJR.

I wouldn't be surprised if only a few International A320s get repainted since they will be replaced soon.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:44 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 93):

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 92):
This is not good, I was hoping to see the All Blacks livery when NZ flies their charter to ORD in Oct.

Is the final timing and other detail of this known yet?

Oct 26th 1635-1805 local time AKL via LAX. Coming in for a Rugby match.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/a...ls-confident-of-All-Blacks-sellout
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:29 pm

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 96):
Oct 26th 1635-1805 local time AKL via LAX. Coming in for a Rugby match.

Why the LAX stop unless the flight has passengers disembarking at LAX. ? The 77W has no problem doing the typical 16hr westbound ORD-AKL leg with max passenger load.
 
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:11 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 97):
Why the LAX stop unless the flight has passengers disembarking at LAX. ? The 77W has no problem doing the typical 16hr westbound ORD-AKL leg with max passenger load.

Crew change? Saves positioning a crew into ORD to operate the return flight.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 146

Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:45 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 89):
So the beginning of the end for the All Blacks livery... When are OAB and OKQ up for repaints again?

Neither of these aircraft have been planned into the schedule for paint yet.

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 92):
This is not good, I was hoping to see the All Blacks livery when NZ flies their charter to ORD in Oct.

The 777 in the All Blacks scheme will still wear its current livery for some time yet.

Quoting TheLifehouse (Reply 95):
I wouldn't be surprised if only a few International A320s get repainted since they will be replaced soon.

Well just to suprise you - ALL the regional A320s are being converted to the new scheme. The ones that are leaving in mid to late 2017 will only receive the tail and rear fuse repaint. The others will be a full strip/repaint.

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