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Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:26 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Bombardier expects to deliver 20-22 CSeries aircraft this year.


Which means one delivery each week from now until the end of December. Doable?
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:50 pm

20-22 deliveries for the year, and P&W will float BBD some cash to cover a portion of the inventory cost of building the aircraft without engines.
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:01 pm

Also announced some good news with the bad this morning.... A LOI has been signed with an unidentified European customer for 31 CSeries + 30 options. Wonder who that could be?

The new guidance came as Bombardier also announced it has signed a letter of intent with an unidentified European customer for a firm order of 31 C Series aircraft and options for an additional 30 jets. Based on the list price, the firm order portion would be worth $2.4 billion.

http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/airlines/bombardier-cuts-c-series-delivery-guidance-announces-loi-with-european-customer
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:27 pm

BBD’s financials are really kind of terrifying. They are really low on cash and are relatively close to their minimum liquidity levels for their credit facilities.

It’s interesting that Pratt is providing an unspecified amount of liquidity assistance due to its inability to deliver engines. It sounds to me like they are going to pay the purchase price of the planes that can’t be delivered due to their issues to keep BBD from running out of money in the near term.

It’s an interesting stock to play. It’s priced so low that if the C series gets some sales it will move around a lot. If Airbus were to back out of the deal at some point it could also go to zero in a heartbeat.

As it is I expect it to be a damn near run thing on cash through 2018. My guess is still that someone else has to stump up some cash at some point. Or lenders are going to have to relax their covenants.
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:06 pm

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At least a good bunch of this bunch has engines. So at least it is not only the engines that hold up aircraft deliveries...

But still a good deal of frames are missing engines. Building even more frames would not have resulted in more completed frames (if engines were the bottleneck).

So it can also be seen as Bombardier very effectively managing their minimum cash, and not building more planes that would then only sitting doing noting = very expensive dead inventory. Bombardier most certainly does not have an Airbus type cash situation where they can afford having 40+ gliders sitting on the tarmac waiting for GTFs.

I see the low production volume mainly as Bombadier managing their critical cash situation. The main part of their income is received when delivery to customer takes places. Their cash situation is strong incentive to delay spending of costs as late as posisble. Timing to airframe production to engine delivery is the smart thing to do.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am

HB-JCD has been delivered.

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Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:47 pm

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At least a good bunch of this bunch has engines. So at least it is not only the engines that hold up aircraft deliveries...


as explained before some birds have engines that are good enough for test flight but that do not include all the recent fixes. Clients will not accept these so even if engines are attached to these they still cannot be delivered due to engine issues

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Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:01 pm

It's great to see another delivery. Here is hoping that PW can dig themselves out of the hole.
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:07 pm

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It’s interesting that Pratt is providing an unspecified amount of liquidity assistance due to its inability to deliver engines. It sounds to me like they are going to pay the purchase price of the planes that can’t be delivered due to their issues to keep BBD from running out of money in the near term.


PW has put the whole program in jeopardy. Interesting that PW has an almost unlimited supply of government cash through their sole source F35 engine contract......yet they can't deliver on their commercial commitments. The CSeries was close enough to the precipice as-is without PW's continual under-delivery on their commitments.
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:53 am

SteelChair wrote:
bigjku wrote:
It’s interesting that Pratt is providing an unspecified amount of liquidity assistance due to its inability to deliver engines. It sounds to me like they are going to pay the purchase price of the planes that can’t be delivered due to their issues to keep BBD from running out of money in the near term.


PW has put the whole program in jeopardy. Interesting that PW has an almost unlimited supply of government cash through their sole source F35 engine contract......yet they can't deliver on their commercial commitments. The CSeries was close enough to the precipice as-is without PW's continual under-delivery on their commitments.


Pratt didn’t make a ton of money period. It’s more likely their cash comes from the other aspects of United’s holdings. It would be more accurate to say that the cash came from air conditioners or elevators.
 
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:39 am

Pratt's cash primarily comes from the 7000+ v2500 engines that have been flying for years and need engine maintenance and spare parts. Just like what will eventually happen on the GTF. Ironically the inability to deliver engines is actually helping Pratt's cash flow right at the moment. The are claiming that delivering GTF engines next year will cost them ~1 billion dollars in cash flow. Or if you prefer the fancy words "negative engine margin"
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:36 pm

Any further deliveries expected soon? Only one delivered to SWISS so far this month. In addition, is anyone aware of who the next operator of the CSeries will be, after SWISS, AirBaltic and Korean?
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:08 pm

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Any further deliveries expected soon? Only one delivered to SWISS so far this month. In addition, is anyone aware of who the next operator of the CSeries will be, after SWISS, AirBaltic and Korean?


EgyptAir Express has signed an order during the last Dubai show.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:27 pm

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Jetsouth wrote:
Any further deliveries expected soon? Only one delivered to SWISS so far this month. In addition, is anyone aware of who the next operator of the CSeries will be, after SWISS, AirBaltic and Korean?


EgyptAir Express has signed an order during the last Dubai show.


According to Wiki the following operators still have pending orders; Gulf Air, Bratheens Regional, Odyssey Airlines, PrivatAir, Iraqi Airways, Saudi Gulf, Falcon Aviaition, Macquarie AirFinance, Delta, Air Canada, Ilyushin Finance Co., Air Tanzania, Republic Airways
 
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Iraqi Airways EIS was supposed to be in 2017
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:27 pm

Bombardier indicated initially they would deliver 30-35 CSeries jets in 2017. Then they revised their deliveries to 20-22 jets for the year. So far this year they have delivered only 13, and only 2 jets since September 1st. With only about 5 weeks remaining this year, it seems hard to believe that they will deliver 7-9 jets in this time period to meet their revised forecasts. With deliveries of less than one jet a month, they will be lucky to hit 14-15 deliveries for the year. Apparently one of the reasons for the late deliveries is the lack of engines from Pratt. However, this problem has been ongoing for most of this year. When will engine deliveries finally pick up?
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:34 pm

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Bombardier indicated initially they would deliver 30-35 CSeries jets in 2017. Then they revised their deliveries to 20-22 jets for the year. So far this year they have delivered only 13, and only 2 jets since September 1st. With only about 5 weeks remaining this year, it seems hard to believe that they will deliver 7-9 jets in this time period to meet their revised forecasts. With deliveries of less than one jet a month, they will be lucky to hit 14-15 deliveries for the year. Apparently one of the reasons for the late deliveries is the lack of engines from Pratt. However, this problem has been ongoing for most of this year. When will engine deliveries finally pick up?


They always sprint the last month of the year. There are several posts about it in this thread a few pages before.
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:22 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Jetsouth wrote:
Bombardier indicated initially they would deliver 30-35 CSeries jets in 2017. Then they revised their deliveries to 20-22 jets for the year. So far this year they have delivered only 13, and only 2 jets since September 1st. With only about 5 weeks remaining this year, it seems hard to believe that they will deliver 7-9 jets in this time period to meet their revised forecasts. With deliveries of less than one jet a month, they will be lucky to hit 14-15 deliveries for the year. Apparently one of the reasons for the late deliveries is the lack of engines from Pratt. However, this problem has been ongoing for most of this year. When will engine deliveries finally pick up?


They always sprint the last month of the year. There are several posts about it in this thread a few pages before.


Not just that, but the update from BBD from a few weeks ago makes it obvious that engine delivery is being addressed between BBD and Pratt: BBD disclosed the $ assistance from Pratt + use of existing engines as spares + specific forecast for 20-22 deliveries... it's kinda hard to imagine that discussion taking place between BBD and Pratt without them also discussing what engines were expected to be delivered (and when). In fact, it would be foolish [ed: stupid?] for BBD to forecast 20-22 deliveries without having some solid assurances form Pratt that the engines would be there.
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:05 pm

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Jetsouth wrote:
Bombardier indicated initially they would deliver 30-35 CSeries jets in 2017. Then they revised their deliveries to 20-22 jets for the year. So far this year they have delivered only 13, and only 2 jets since September 1st. With only about 5 weeks remaining this year, it seems hard to believe that they will deliver 7-9 jets in this time period to meet their revised forecasts. With deliveries of less than one jet a month, they will be lucky to hit 14-15 deliveries for the year. Apparently one of the reasons for the late deliveries is the lack of engines from Pratt. However, this problem has been ongoing for most of this year. When will engine deliveries finally pick up?


They always sprint the last month of the year. There are several posts about it in this thread a few pages before.


Not just that, but the update from BBD from a few weeks ago makes it obvious that engine delivery is being addressed between BBD and Pratt: BBD disclosed the $ assistance from Pratt + use of existing engines as spares + specific forecast for 20-22 deliveries... it's kinda hard to imagine that discussion taking place between BBD and Pratt without them also discussing what engines were expected to be delivered (and when). In fact, it would be foolish [ed: stupid?] for BBD to forecast 20-22 deliveries without having some solid assurances form Pratt that the engines would be there.


Considering that in the past that Bombardier usually has its planes for one month in flight testing, and, in accordance with various on-line production schedules they seem only to have 3 or 4 jets currently in flight testing, I do not know how they are going to make the 20-22 deliveries by the end of the year. They would have to get another 4-6 planes into flight testing in the next week or so to make the schedule.
 
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:19 pm

Its safe to say at this point that any promises with regard to deliveries can't be trusted. And I place most of that blame on PW. And the aviation MSM seems to be giving them a pass. PW has failed on program delivery, even though they have met and exceeded the fuel efficiency promise.
 
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The next CS3 for LX is scheduled for delivery the 29th. HB-JCF.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:50 pm

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The next CS3 for LX is scheduled for delivery the 29th. HB-JCF.


That would put year to date deliveries to 14. Bombardier would have to deliver 6-8 jets in December to meet its revised target of 20-22 deliveries (down from the original target of 30-35) that it made only a couple of months ago.
 
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:25 pm

Well how many do they have that need a little more work? Looking at the production list, there's 5 CS300s out of assembly in preflight or flight testing (1x BT, 2x LX, 3x KE) with a few more in assembly, but only 3x have flown (1x for all three LX, KE, BT haven't flown). Plus, there are the 3x CS100s , MS50007-9, that were manufactured but not painted or given engines and were stored – what's the status of those 3?

As for what's on the assembly line, supposedly the next few aircraft are all CS100s for LX and DL (2x each). I'm uncertain about the 2x DL due to the tariff so I won't consider those. If BBD can pump those 2x CS100s for LX out soon and prep them and test them in a month, that'll be up to 21. And one CS300 on the line is a private jet for a customer, and if that makes it out of assembly and tested and delivered (I assume it will be delivered without the interior to be outfitted elsewhere, taking less prep to delivery time), that can make the final number 22, the upper range of the target.

So BBD must be planning to kick out:
    -1x CS300 to BT (first flight this week according to FliegerFlaust)
    -2x CS300 to LX (one CS300 to be delivered this week according to FliegerFlaust)
    -0-2x CS100 to LX (last 2 CS100s for LX)
    -0-1x CS300 VIP (in assembly?)
    -2-3x to KE (2x flown, 1x unknown)

Total of 18-22 YTD'18 Deliveries.

I do not know how accurate the data I found from here is, but it looks to me they could at least hit 18 if not more.
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Even the usually optimistic Fliegerfaust predicts that CS 300 55015 will be the last Cseries delivery for 2017. That would mean only 14 deliveries for 2017. For some reason Korean is most likely not taking delivery of their two completed jets until 2018.
 
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Even the usually optimistic Fliegerfaust predicts that CS 300 55015 will be the last Cseries delivery for 2017. That would mean only 14 deliveries for 2017. For some reason Korean is most likely not taking delivery of their two completed jets until 2018.


I think Korean Air requested a spare pair of engines for each airframe before they will take delivery.
 
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Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:52 am

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Jetsouth wrote:
Even the usually optimistic Fliegerfaust predicts that CS 300 55015 will be the last Cseries delivery for 2017. That would mean only 14 deliveries for 2017. For some reason Korean is most likely not taking delivery of their two completed jets until 2018.


I think Korean Air requested a spare pair of engines for each airframe before they will take delivery.


!… I wonder if there were so many spare engines in the prop liner time… Feels like P&W are back to the Wasp Major era…
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Jetsouth wrote:
Even the usually optimistic Fliegerfaust predicts that CS 300 55015 will be the last Cseries delivery for 2017. That would mean only 14 deliveries for 2017. For some reason Korean is most likely not taking delivery of their two completed jets until 2018.


I think Korean Air requested a spare pair of engines for each airframe before they will take delivery.


A spare "pair" seems a bit overdone.
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Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:51 am

Regarding Korean Air, the following was said in October:

"I have no doubt that Pratt & Whitney or Bombardier would make a good plane, but it's just that the engines need more time to fix their support plan for us, and we're giving them more time. We could wait," Cho told reporters on the sidelines of the Association of Asia Pacific Airlines assembly of presidents in Taipei.


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -d-442531/

I'm not entirely sure what "support plan" means?
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Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:13 pm

Nicoeddf wrote:
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Jetsouth wrote:
Even the usually optimistic Fliegerfaust predicts that CS 300 55015 will be the last Cseries delivery for 2017. That would mean only 14 deliveries for 2017. For some reason Korean is most likely not taking delivery of their two completed jets until 2018.


I think Korean Air requested a spare pair of engines for each airframe before they will take delivery.


A spare "pair" seems a bit overdone.



That is true. I remembered reading that somewhere and just now found that it was only a rumor by Fligerfaust, not a credible source.
 
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:14 pm

Came across a CSeries Instagram fan page https://www.instagram.com/cseries_fanpage/

It has two interesting photos that were taken on Nov 29. One is a CS300 parked near a hanger next to two Aeromexico 787s. The other photo was a pamphlet and lanyard with Aeromexico Demo Nov 2017.

Are Bombardier trying to get an order from AM?
 
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Are Bombardier trying to get an order from AM?


Haven't Delta invested $620 M in AM?

I can see a good use of those early Delta CSeries slots...
 
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Are Bombardier trying to get an order from AM?


Haven't Delta invested $620 M in AM?

I can see a good use of those early Delta CSeries slots...


Now thinking about it, it would make sense since one of their pilots mentioned in a instagram post a few months back that AM is going to start retiring some of their 737-700s. I guess this could be their replacement.
 
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:14 pm

As a Canadian I would applaud the transfer of the DL C-series order to our Mexican amigo NAFTA partners. Wholeheartedly. No duties......
 
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:16 pm

Not only no 300% duties but then BBD could save hundreds of millions by not building the Mobile AL plant for final assembly. Win-win for Mexico and Canada.
 
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LockheedBBD wrote:
Fligerfaust, not a credible source.


Fligerfaust has predicted 12 of the last 2 C Series orders :-)
 
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As a Canadian I would applaud the transfer of the DL C-series order to our Mexican amigo NAFTA partners. Wholeheartedly. No duties......


This isnt outside the realm of possibility, DL owns 36.2% of Aeromexico
 
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How fun to see the CS100 and the SSJ100 flying out of the same airports!
 
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Another first flight yesterday....55016.
 
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Came across a CSeries Instagram fan page https://www.instagram.com/cseries_fanpage/

It has two interesting photos that were taken on Nov 29. One is a CS300 parked near a hanger next to two Aeromexico 787s. The other photo was a pamphlet and lanyard with Aeromexico Demo Nov 2017.

Are Bombardier trying to get an order from AM?


If that was to come off it would be great for all parties involved.

However all I've wanted to say since yesterday was it appears that DL are taking a page of Trump's playbook - we are going to buy new planes and we'll get the Mexicans to pay for them!
 
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Yet another first flight today, this time 55020. Perhaps the program is finally starting to get some momentum/production from PW. Still most likely to fall short of 20-22 deliveries for CY2017.

http://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
 
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It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.
 
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It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.


Soo what does this mean? Will some of the CS jets not be flying Delta colors (almost made a pun!) but instead serve as replacements for 737-700s (as mentioned)?
 
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Jetsouth wrote:
It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.


No wonder they were in Aeromexico's hub last week. Glad to hear BBD will continue to churn some jets for the coming future.
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It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.


Soo what does this mean? Will some of the CS jets not be flying Delta colors (almost made a pun!) but instead serve as replacements for 737-700s (as mentioned)?


Yes, the jets going for AM will fly with their livery. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKBN1DY2NU
 
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Jetsouth wrote:
It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.


I see no such announcement. Media speculation, yes, but no announcement.
 
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Jetsouth wrote:
It was announced today that Aeromexico is taking over some of Delta's order of 75 jets. I would imagine that some of the ones they are taking over are the ones currently under assembly. Delta probably will not start taking the jets until either the tariff issue is resolved, or Bombardier starts manufacturing them in the States.


Please discuss this topic here:

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Any news on this european customer?
 
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It would appear that the following deliveries may happen before the end of the year:
55016- To AirBaltic
55018- To Korean
55019- To Korean, possibly or early January
55020- To Swiss
 
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Any chance of new Delta JV partner Westjet leasing/selling used 737s to Delta while Westjet takes some of Delta's early CS delivery slots? Short term solution to the trade dispute/waiting for Alabama production line to be built?

Wouldn't it be fun to see Delta place CS's with their 2 of their partners (Aeromexico and Westjet) while Boeing continues to hide behind its legal department?
 
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Re: CSeries - Flight Testing And Production Thread (Part 2)

Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:47 am

Bombardier aims to deliver some 40 CSeries aircraft in 2018.

See https://twitter.com/R_Wall/status/941269978875035649
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