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DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:53 pm

I saw this on flyertalk and also confirmed on dl.com

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-delta-starts-slc-ams-may-1-a.html
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:58 pm

IMO, this was probably the biggest hole out of the AMS hub.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:25 pm

Interesting news!

This will raise DLs operations at AMS to a new all-time record, as the airline is also re-instating its 2nd JFK-AMS.

So far for S15 - 20 DL departures at AMS:
- DTW 4x/day - 3xA333 + 1xB777
- ATL 3x/day - 2xA333 + 1xB763
- MSP 3x/day - 2xA333 + 1xA332
- BOS 2x/day - 2xA333
- JFK 2x/day - 2xB763
- SEA 2x/day - 2xA333
- BOM 1x/day - 1xB763
- EWR 1x/day - 1xB763
- PDX 1x/day - 1xA333
- SLC 1x/day - 1xB763

For an overall:
- 12xA333
- 6xB763
- 1x B777
- 1x A332

and back up to nine destinations, following closure of MEM-AMS:


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[Edited 2014-07-26 11:27:05]
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:49 pm

This will definitely strengthen DL's network to the West.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:58 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 2):
Interesting news!

This will raise DLs operations at AMS to a new all-time record, as the airline is also re-instating its 2nd JFK-AMS.

I wonder if this had anything to do with British Airways nosing around SLC at the Airport board meetings and the SLC Chamber of Commerce Meetings as Guests.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:17 pm

A lot of people. This must represent a healthy feed for KLM. I doubt if many of them are going to put their finger in the dikes!  Wow!
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:05 pm

Good on SLC. I guess this probably means that DL will not do SLC-LHR anytime soon though.

When does PDX-CDG start? I can see that next.
 
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:22 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 2):
and back up to nine destinations, following closure of MEM-AMS:

- Was this not originally a KL route?
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:43 pm

Good news. I'd been wondering when DL would start this route.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 7):
- Was this not originally a KL route?

It was. They flew it with a MD-11, then later downgauged to 763.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:55 pm

SLC-AMS is a no brainer. Great add. Wouldn't be surprised if PDX-CDG materialized next. Unless BA announces PDX-LHR first.

[Edited 2014-07-26 13:58:39]
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:26 pm

Wow! I'm amazed that even as LAX and SEA keep growing, DL continues to show its longstanding western hub a lot of love. Maybe some of the upcoming seasonal holiday additions like SLC-DSM/MIA could be flown on a much more frequent basis (the return of nonstop service in any form is a great start). Maybe routes like SLC-MKE or SLC-OGG could also be brought back, if only seasonally. The addition of SLC-AMS is a very pleasant surprise, can't wait to see what happens next.

Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 4):
I wonder if this had anything to do with British Airways nosing around SLC at the Airport board meetings and the SLC Chamber of Commerce Meetings as Guests.

Perhaps, but persistent rumors suggest MSY as BA's next U.S. destination. SLC has the bigger population and superior demographics, MSY has the global mass tourist appeal (SLC doesn't do much for you unless you're a skier or outdoor enthusiast) and lack of competition. Will be interesting to see what they choose to do. I think it may be a lot easier for BA to break into a WN-dominated market like AUS, BNA, MSY, SAN, SJC, or STL where all of the U.S. legacies/global alliances are relatively equal (weak) rather than a fortress hub market like MSP or SLC where a rival alliance carrier has most of the local FFers locked into its FF program.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:30 pm

Great news for SLC. Any chance of SLC-NRT coming back?
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:34 pm

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 10):
I think it may be a lot easier for BA to break into a WN-dominated market like AUS, BNA, MSY, SAN, SJC, or STL where all of the U.S. legacies/global alliances are relatively equal (weak) rather than a fortress hub market like MSP or SLC where a rival alliance carrier has most of the local FFers locked into its FF program.

It's a little OT to the SLC-AMS news of the thread title but DL has lots of time-efficient connections LHR-MSY not just thru ATL but also DTW and JFK. It's tough to argue this is an underserved market. If MSY is a popular destination for UK travelers the VS sales team should be all over it.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:51 pm

Congrats to SLC, kind of odd though...no press release or announcement and, if they happen to next week, the start date for the route is nearly a year out, pretty early for an announcement, no? Perhaps they were indeed trying to preempt the likes of BA from announcing.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:53 pm

Maybe AMS had slot flight from MEM replaces to SLC now.

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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:13 pm

Good news!
Any indication of adjustments to SLC-CDG? Will it remain daily 332 next summer?
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:38 pm

Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 4):
I wonder if this had anything to do with British Airways nosing around SLC

This would explain the 10 months' lead. In open skies markets announcements tend to be closer to start-up, to surprise the competition. Of course there hasn't been an official press release, quite unusual for such a flagship route, when airlines seize the opportunity to high light their importance for the community. So yes, I would not be surprised if this was preemptive, because BA was doing more than just 'nosing around'  
I hope it sticks. This is an exciting addition to Delta's very impressive AMS schedule.   
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:52 pm

IIRC the first of the A330IGW should be delivered in the spring of 2015 with 3 more that year. I think this is allowing their international fleet to get optimized and adding/beefing up some of their routes.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:15 am

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 13):
Congrats to SLC, kind of odd though...no press release or announcement and, if they happen to next week, the start date for the route is nearly a year out, pretty early for an announcement, no? Perhaps they were indeed trying to preempt the likes of BA from announcing.

I am sure this was to make it very unattractive for BA to add SLC. More seats to Europe and for connections at a skyteam hub. BA surely knows this flight now.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 10):
Perhaps, but persistent rumors suggest MSY as BA's next U.S. destination

Highly doubt that is anything more than a rumor because people wanted it to be true. MSY is on the decline and lacks the economy to fill premium cabins. PDX or SLC would make way more sense for BA no question about it. Delta must have been getting nervous and with no LHR slot to easily use, this is the best and easiest defense to make SLC less attractive for BA.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:20 am

Quoting Q (Reply 14):

Is AMS slot restricted?
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:24 am

Its even bookable on delta.com already

With all the recent airport news the SLC media doesnt seems to be picking up on this yet. We have the new terminals started construction, the new train line is operating to downtown, B6 is launching MCO and all the multiple AS air new services for their focus city. 10 years ago this would be all over the SLC news already and a cover story.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:24 am

The published schedule for next June, according to delta.com, for any who are interested:

DL56 SLC 16:50-10:55 (+1) AMS, 76W
DL57 AMS 10:30-13:15 SLC, 76W

Compared with CDG:
DL89 SLC 17:05-11:25 (+1) CDG, A332
DL88 CDG 10:40-13:35 SLC, A332

I'm a bit surprised to see them operating on the same schedules--I thought that they might push AMS to a later bank time to give some schedule variety for passengers to Europe. Given that the aircraft turns at SLC, and is rotating with another route at AMS, maybe it wasn't practical to schedule it differently.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:49 am

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 21):
DL56 SLC 16:50-10:55 (+1) AMS, 76W
DL57 AMS 10:30-13:15 SLC, 76W

Compared with CDG:
DL89 SLC 17:05-11:25 (+1) CDG, A332
DL88 CDG 10:40-13:35 SLC, A332

I guess connections work at both ends with this timing. Kind of makes sense to do it similar in a way.

I do think this puts alot of pressure on BA not to add SLC. They have two huge European connection airports now they have 1 stop connections all the major cities pretty much covered i'd think with both CDG and AMS now.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:45 am

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 10):
Perhaps, but persistent rumors suggest MSY as BA's next U.S. destination. SLC has the bigger population and superior demographics, MSY has the global mass tourist appeal (SLC doesn't do much for you unless you're a skier or outdoor enthusiast) and lack of competition.

I am not that sure that New Orleans has that much appeal for international tourists. I just found this: http://www.hotel-price-index.com/201...g/top-spenders/top-us-cities.html. N.O. is often portrayed (specially after Katrina) as a dangerous place (so not that attractive for families) and it is not hype or edgy to attract the trendy crowd. And even geographically is not easy to combine (other than Florida) for an international tourist in the same trip. MSY is not a city of prestige, has barely any significative business traffic and it is one of the poorest areas in the US. As someone said earlier, "MSY is on the decline".

The fact that not a single European airline (even holiday-oriented like Condor that serves Fairbanks in summer or Air Berlin with Fort Myers) serves MSY even seasonally tells something IMO. I can see MSY on BA only with a holiday LGW-MSY.

On the other hand, SLC can be a base to explore Moab, Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon, which definitely have global mass tourist appeal. Those destinations can be combined with Wyoming, Nevada or even California. Utah, while conservative, is one of the safest and less unequal states in the US (an appeal for Asian or European tourists). Add to that SLC has a higher population, a much higher income, a bunch of international companies growing their business operating from there and the church that flies people in and out internationally all the time. Utah is becoming a prestigious destination ("high-end" outdoors and ski) and economically is on the rise.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:20 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 1):
and back up to nine destinations, following closure of MEM-AMS:

Missed my own mistake!

DL will be backup to 10x destinations from AMS.

1. - DTW
2. - ATL
3. - MSP
4. - BOS
5. - JFK
6. - SEA
7. - BOM
8. - EWR
9. - PDX
10. - SLC
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:49 pm

DL56 SLC 16:50-10:55 (+1) AMS, 76W
DL57 AMS 10:30-13:15 SLC, 76W

Compared with CDG:
DL89 SLC 17:05-11:25 (+1) CDG, A332
DL88 CDG 10:40-13:35 SLC, A332

Nice addition to SLC for sure and one I'll be using but, with only 20 minutes difference in arrival times, the immigration line could get pretty long, it's not the biggest of places. A bit surprised it wasn't given a later SLC arrival time for another bank option but I'll take it.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:17 pm

Congrats to SLC!

That being said...

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 18):
MSY is on the decline and lacks the economy to fill premium cabins. PDX or SLC would make way more sense for BA no question about it.

How is it "on the decline"? The airport is doing gangbusters, the population is increasing, visitor spending is at an all time high, and the city is actually seeing new businesses move TO the area. PDX or SLC would not be better choices. Those cities already have nonstops to Europe. I'd rather go into an untapped market like with strong demand (see below) and own the show.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 23):
I am not that sure that New Orleans has that much appeal for international tourists. I just found this: http://www.hotel-price-index.com/201...g/top-spenders/top-us-cities.html. N.O. is often portrayed (specially after Katrina) as a dangerous place (so not that attractive for families) and it is not hype or edgy to attract the trendy crowd. And even geographically is not easy to combine (other than Florida) for an international tourist in the same trip. MSY is not a city of prestige, has barely any significative business traffic and it is one of the poorest areas in the US. As someone said earlier, "MSY is on the decline".

The fact that not a single European airline (even holiday-oriented like Condor that serves Fairbanks in summer or Air Berlin with Fort Myers) serves MSY even seasonally tells something IMO. I can see MSY on BA only with a holiday LGW-MSY.

And again, MSY is not "on the decline". The region is doing quite well. Portrayed as dangerous? You mean it's a city with random shootings just like any other major city in the U.S? Not "hype" (perhaps you meant hip) or edgy? Um, have you ever been here? Hipsters all over the place with the new boom in start up/tech businesses. Not saying the hipster part is a good thing but the local economy appreciates it I'm sure. Not a city of prestige? How do you define "prestige"? Not prestigious compared to what? It's an old city, a historic city, and it consistently ranks very high in travel publications as being a place people know and love. So don't let facts get in the way or anything. I'm not going to comment on the lack of business traffic because I wouldn't know...and indeed parts of the city itself is poor (just like parts of ATL, STL, DTW, MEM, etc are poor) but the entire region is not...and a flight to Europe would draw in drive traffic from LFT all the way through the Mobile area.

Read, and be enlightened.

http://www.anna.aero/2014/06/25/new-...leans-top-british-airways-us-list/

[Edited 2014-07-27 06:25:47]
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:03 pm

Think PDX will be above SLC for the next BA launch
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:14 pm

Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:31 pm

Quoting Tinpusher007 (Reply 28):
Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???

It's not like SEA is a 30 minute drive. Surely PDX generates enough leisure/biz traffic of it's own.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:38 pm

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 19):
Is AMS slot restricted?

No, it's not.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 22):
I guess connections work at both ends with this timing. Kind of makes sense to do it similar in a way.

On the AMS-side, it's optimised for connections to European destinations. It doesn't provide much connectivity on KL flights to the middle east or Africa though, except LOS and ACC.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:57 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 16):
This is an exciting addition to Delta's very impressive AMS schedule.

When I flew through AMS last September if I didn't know any better I'd swear it was a Delta hub by looking at all the red widget tails.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:19 pm

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 21):
DL56 SLC 16:50-10:55 (+1) AMS, 76W
DL57 AMS 10:30-13:15 SLC, 76W

Looking at the schedules loaded so far, the plane will most likely switch with the aircraft to/from EWR:

DL140 EWR-AMS 18:20-07:50
DL141 AMS-EWR 12:50-15:30

This gives a ground time of 2:40 for the plane arriving from EWR, and 1:55 for the plane arriving from SLC. It's also a nice way to operate the EWR-flight.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:50 pm

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 29):
Quoting Tinpusher007 (Reply 28):
Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???

It's not like SEA is a 30 minute drive. Surely PDX generates enough leisure/biz traffic of it's own.

Sure, I'd love to drive 3-4 hours depending on traffic to catch a flight out of SEA when PDX is nearby. I think Tinpusher needs to look at a map and understand how far apart they are.

[Edited 2014-07-27 11:52:28]

[Edited 2014-07-27 11:52:53]
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:01 pm

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 31):

Technically it is a DL hub.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:36 pm

Quoting Tinpusher007 (Reply 28):
Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???

Why does DL serve AMS, BRU, DUS and FRA from ATL? Well, because there's a market.

I don't think 1 daily flight to Europe from PDX is surprising. In fact, LH had a FRA-PDX flight running for quite a while before NW started the competition. LH withdrew, DL increaed the (summer) flights to daily and the market is saturated again.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:02 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):

This will definitely strengthen DL's network to the West.

And the SLC-AMS expansion is in addition to further KL/DL expansion at LAX, where the AF/AZ/DL/KL Joint Venture is raising frequency LAX-AMS to double daily certain days of the week from March 2015, replacing 'peak summer only' additional capacity from Jun-Sept.

Starting 30 March 2015:
- dep. LAX 13:50 - arr. AMS 09:05 KL 0602/DL9379 Non-Stop B744 daily
- dep. LAX 17:15 - arr. AMS 12:30 KL 0604/DL9645 Non-Stop B744 Mon, Wed, Fri (NEW)

The 2nd KL604/DL9645 service goes 4x/weekly from mid-June 2015.

With further expansion just released:

KLM will increase IAH-AMS from 9x/week in S14 to 10x/week in S15 peak summer season, with the second KL668 service operating every Thu, Sat, Sun from mid-June 2015.

[Edited 2014-07-27 13:07:30]

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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Quoting Tinpusher007 (Reply 28):
Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???

AMS is a major DL/KL hub. Most passengers to/from AMS are connecting beyond, not O&D to/from AMS. If PDX passengers also had to connect at SEA it would mean a double-connection for most passengers. Not very attractive.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Quoting factsonly (Reply 36):
LAX, where the AF/AZ/DL/KL Joint Venture is raising frequency LAX-AMS to double daily certain days of the week from March 2015,

Was crossing my fingers for DL to take a shot at LAX-AMS,oh well with the added frequency from the joint Venture plus the SLC-AMS flight next year i guess i will have to continue to connect thru DTW,MSP,JFK etc..
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:26 pm

It appears the SLC-AMS flight is only seasonal...Ends in October.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:19 pm

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 39):
It appears the SLC-AMS flight is only seasonal...Ends in October.

Makes sense. I thought this would be a seasonal flight at least to start.

I just hope we see LHR that route can support year round
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:15 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
When does PDX-CDG start? I can see that next
Quoting ana787 (Reply 9):
Wouldn't be surprised if PDX-CDG materialized next

I want to agree with you both, as this would certainly make PDX a bigger International player. But I think DL wants to get numbers up at SEA before they would launch a route that would likely cannibalize the SEA-CDG flight.

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 16):
This would explain the 10 months' lead

DL has been doing this on many routes with the SEA hub buildup, many routes were announced with 6 months or better advance notice. Maybe this is DL marking the territory in advance.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 37):
If PDX passengers also had to connect at SEA it would mean a double-connection for most passengers. Not very attractive.

Most markets that CDG could serve with onward connections can be served via AMS, for those places that is not the case, you'd likely be making two connections no matter which way you go.
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:35 am

Makes sense to go after as much of the peak season TATL flying. Making money on a hub-to-hub route as such is easy in the summer.

I'm sure the data shows that DL is spilling a ton of traffic in the summer months.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:56 am

Quoting dlflynhayn (Reply 38):
Was crossing my fingers for DL to take a shot at LAX-AMS,oh well with the added frequency from the joint Venture plus the SLC-AMS flight next year i guess i will have to continue to connect thru DTW,MSP,JFK etc..

Why can't you fly LAX-AMS on KLM?
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:58 pm

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 43):
Why can't you fly LAX-AMS on KLM?

Well i'm a non-rev on DL so cheaper to just fly my carrier,but i did fly it direct last year from AMS and the service on KLM is great but ill save money and stop in DTW or MSP i don't mind breaking up the trip,plus if you take the first flight out of AMS to DTW you get to LAX just a few hours after the KLM flight...
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:27 pm

Official Press Release - 7/30/2014:
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=20295&item=124566

Starts May 1, 2015 at 5x per week, then becomes daily on May 14, 2015. (No mention specifically of it being only seasonal)

Also, mentioned in the release that DL plans to increase capacity 8% in SLC over the next 5 years.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:11 pm

Delta is the largest airline in Salt Lake City with more than 260 peak-day departures to nearly 90 destinations, including seven international destinations. Earlier this month, Delta re-affirmed its commitment to the area with a groundbreaking event for Salt Lake City International Airport’s $1.8 billion terminal redevelopment programme. The first major phase of construction is expected to be completed in 2019.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:42 pm

Quoting Tinpusher007 (Reply 28):
Why is PDX such a large market to AMS, especially with SEA right up the way???
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 37):
AMS is a major DL/KL hub. Most passengers to/from AMS are connecting beyond, not O&D to/from AMS. If PDX passengers also had to connect at SEA it would mean a double-connection for most passengers. Not very attractive.

I imagine there might be a good bit of premium traffic on this route with Nike's EMEA headquarters in Hilversum as well.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:57 pm

Delta is definitely commited to keeping the SLC market.

Lets not forget that Delta just announced the SLC-MEX flight will resume in December!

Funny the SLC media has been pretty quiet on these new flights, i guess too much airport news recently with all the SLC stuff, alaska, and airline mergers.
 
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RE: DL Starting SLC-AMS In MAY

Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:05 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 23):
I am not that sure that New Orleans has that much appeal for international tourists. I just found this: http://www.hotel-price-index.com/201...g/top-spenders/top-us-cities.html. N.O. is often portrayed (specially after Katrina) as a dangerous place (so not that attractive for families) and it is not hype or edgy to attract the trendy crowd. And even geographically is not easy to combine (other than Florida) for an international tourist in the same trip. MSY is not a city of prestige, has barely any significative business traffic and it is one of the poorest areas in the US. As someone said earlier, "MSY is on the decline".

The fact that not a single European airline (even holiday-oriented like Condor that serves Fairbanks in summer or Air Berlin with Fort Myers) serves MSY even seasonally tells something IMO. I can see MSY on BA only with a holiday LGW-MSY.

On the other hand, SLC can be a base to explore Moab, Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon, which definitely have global mass tourist appeal. Those destinations can be combined with Wyoming, Nevada or even California. Utah, while conservative, is one of the safest and less unequal states in the US (an appeal for Asian or European tourists). Add to that SLC has a higher population, a much higher income, a bunch of international companies growing their business operating from there and the church that flies people in and out internationally all the time. Utah is becoming a prestigious destination ("high-end" outdoors and ski) and economically is on the rise.

Yes, you're absolutely right. MSY is in decline. That's why hotel occupancy is amongst the highest in the USA. http://canalstreetbeat.com/hotel-occupancy-grows-4-in-may/

Yes, MSY is in decline. That's why the city is building a new airport terminal. http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...esign_of_louis_armstrong_airp.html

Yes, MSY is in decline. That's why the City of New Orleans had the highest population growth by percentage of any city in the country. http://www.wwltv.com/news/Forbes-New...stest-Growing-City--212824771.html

Yes, MSY is in decline. That's why there are more restaurants in New Orleans in 2014 then there were in 2005. http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/c...sheets/restaurant-growth-index.pdf

Yes, folks. MSY is in decline.

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