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dfwjim1
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LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:41 pm

Are there international routes to/from London that BA serves to/from both LHR and Gatwick? Tried to do some research myself
but didn't know where to start so I thought I would ask the experts.

Thanks!
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:44 pm

Yes, within Europe. Can't think of any intercontinental destinations that BA currently serves from both airports.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:52 pm

Las Vegas is served from both LHR & LGW.

Short haul served from both would include ALC, AMS, BCN, EDI, GLA, LCA, NCE, FCO, VCE and some seasonal routes too I believe.

[Edited 2014-07-28 07:54:43]
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:53 pm

Las Vegas is currently the only intercontinental destination served by BA from both LHR and LGW.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:00 pm

Long Haul - Las Vegas

Short Haul - Amsterdam, Barcelona, Edinburgh, Geneva, Glasgow, Ibiza, Larnaca, Lyon (different airport), Malaga, Nice, Pisa, Rome & Venice.

Hope this helps.
 
dfwjim1
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:14 pm

Helps a lot, thanks!
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:17 pm

Another little bit of trivia for you, the LGW crew operate the LCY-JFK flights and stay in the same hotel as the LHR crew in NYC.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:05 am

Yep, at VCE we have BA flights to all 3 LON airports: LHR LGW and LCY.

I think AMS does also, and others.

Heathrow is mostly connections, Gatwick is mostly O&D and City is premium O&D.

[Edited 2014-07-29 00:08:33]

[Edited 2014-07-29 00:12:00]
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:57 am

Okay from my own records (maybe not all up to date, do correct me if I'm wrong) this is the list of multiple BA London airport destinations (includes routes that will either start or stop in October):

Heathrow / Gatwick
ALC
BCN
FAO
FCO
LAS
LCA
PSA

Heathrow / City
ABZ
ARN
DUB
DUS
FRA
JFK
MAD
PMI
RTM
ZRH

Heathrow / Gatwick / City
AGP
AMS
EDI
GLA
GVA
IBZ
NCE
VCE
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:32 pm

Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 8):

Thanks, that's interesting... had no idea there were so many LGW/LHR/LCY combos!
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:38 pm

Isn't Malaga served from LHR too now? Or am I thinking of somewhere else that has recently opened up from LHR too?
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:01 pm

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 10):
Isn't Malaga served from LHR too now?

Yes. BA454/55 operates twice weekly LHR-AGP-LHR on Fridays and Sundays. The inaugural flight was on 30 March 2014. It was announced last October along with rotations from LHR to FAO (BA508/07), OPO (BA506/05), JMK (BA650/51) and JRT (Santorini) (BA652/53).
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:12 pm

Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 8):
Heathrow / Gatwick
ALC
BCN
FAO
FCO
LAS
LCA
PSA

You'll have to add Nice.
Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:28 pm

Like LGWgate49 wrote, BA serves NCE from all 3 LON ariports - alas LCY is only seasonal.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:09 pm

There are rumours that some long-haul routes may transfer from LHR to LGW. In addition to Providenciales which has been announced, there have been rumours about Bangkok transferring
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:49 pm

I believe that Faro is served from LGW, LHR & LCY
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:35 am

BA served LHR/LGW/LCY from GVA for a while until they dropped GVA-LCY some years ago. BA never had competitive frequency with LX to LCY.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:53 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):

BA served LHR/LGW/LCY from GVA for a while until they dropped GVA-LCY some years ago. BA never had competitive frequency with LX to LCY.

I was quite sure LCY-GVA is a winter seasonal route and will make a return this winter season?
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:57 am

Quoting BA0197 (Reply 17):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):

BA served LHR/LGW/LCY from GVA for a while until they dropped GVA-LCY some years ago. BA never had competitive frequency with LX to LCY.

I was quite sure LCY-GVA is a winter seasonal route and will make a return this winter season?

Maybe they've started it again seasonally but if so that's fairly recent.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:26 am

Quoting BCA2005 (Reply 3):

I have to ask....Why?

LHR is a daily 744 right?

FlightAware Shows LGW as a thrice 772?

Why the different originating airports for the same route?

What is unique about Vegas to demand this that no other long haul demands? At least they're smart enough to time them so they are on the ground at seperate periods in LAS so they only need the one gate.

bchandl
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:39 am

Quoting bchandl (Reply 19):
Why the different originating airports for the same route?

Since there isn't much Europe-LAS nonstop service, they probably carry quite a bit of connecting traffic via LHR. The LGW flights are no doubt almost exclusively O&D traffic and they probably can't justify using a LHR slot for those lower yield flights.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:09 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):
The LGW flights are no doubt almost exclusively O&D traffic and they probably can't justify using a LHR slot for those lower yield flights.

But aren't O&D usually higher yielding?
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:29 am

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 21):
But aren't O&D usually higher yielding?

Yes generally speaking. However LHR is no doubt higher yielding than LGW comparatively. But as LHR is so full, that is inevitable; so LGW is placed in a situation where there is plenty of O&D but plays second fiddle in yield because of LHR. LON is such a high yielding city in general that they are really in their own league of yield. The presence of LCC at LGW shows that it is a less yielding airport than LHR but still very valuable (and expensive for LCCs).
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:02 pm

Quoting BA0197 (Reply 17):
I was quite sure LCY-GVA is a winter seasonal route and will make a return this winter season?

Yep according to OAG they are back this winter (1 flight a day on Fri / Mon, 2 on Sat / Sun).

Quoting santos (Reply 15):
I believe that Faro is served from LGW, LHR & LCY

Thanks, have updated my list now!
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:27 pm

Geneva is also served on a seasonal basis from Gatwick from December to April with up to 20 flights per week.

V.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:05 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
Maybe they've started it again seasonally but if so that's fairly recent.

LCY-GVA has been consistently run for many many winters now.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:15 pm

Question...was MIA ever served from LGW or has it only been served from LHR?
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:29 am

Quoting vectismanpaul (Reply 24):
Geneva is also served on a seasonal basis from Gatwick from December to April with up to 20 flights per week.

When I check schedules for mid-January (the height of the ski season) I only see 5 BA flights a week LCY-GVA, 1 each on Monday and Friday, one on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Same thing the week before Christmas, normally a very busy period.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:19 am

Quoting dfwjim1 (Reply 26):

Yes, when I was based at lgw we had a daily Miami flight on a 747. This was late 90's can't remember when it stopped early 2000's I think
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:18 am

Viscount724
If you check the Oneworld timetable and the Gatwick website they are definitely there. They are also bookable at BA.com

V.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:43 am

DFW used to operate from LGW.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:04 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 27):
When I check schedules for mid-January (the height of the ski season) I only see 5 BA flights a week LCY-GVA,
Quoting vectismanpaul (Reply 29):
If you check the Oneworld timetable and the Gatwick website they are definitely there.

If you read these statements carefully you will see that they are certainly not incompatible.

But to add to the confusion can I point out that next Monday BA are scheduling seven LHR (yes, LHR this time) to GVA flights? Then on Monday 6 October they add another daily flight making eight. Further, on Monday 17 November they increase the number of flights to nine. And on Monday 24 /November they add yet another to make ten.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:28 pm

In W14 BA will operate 18x LON-GVA on peak travel days, such as Sunday 23 December:

- LHR-GVA = 11x / day
- LGW-GVA = 5x / day
- LCY-GVA = 2x / day
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:11 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 31):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 27):
When I check schedules for mid-January (the height of the ski season) I only see 5 BA flights a week LCY-GVA,
Quoting vectismanpaul (Reply 29):
If you check the Oneworld timetable and the Gatwick website they are definitely there.

If you read these statements carefully you will see that they are certainly not incompatible.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Both the Oneworld timetable and BA website still only show the 5 flights per week LCY-GVA I mentioned earlier for a couple of random weeks I checked in January. And what does the Gatwick timetable have to do with LCY?

Quoting factsonly (Reply 32):
In W14 BA will operate 18x LON-GVA on peak travel days, such as Sunday 23 December:

- LHR-GVA = 11x / day
- LGW-GVA = 5x / day
- LCY-GVA = 2x / day

Yes, on Sunday BA has 2 x day LCY-GVA, but only 5 x week unless I'm looking in the wrong place. I was referring to an earlier reply stating that BA had up to 20 seasonal flights a week LCY-GVA. As far as I can tell, it's 5, not 20.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:22 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 33):

The earlier reply said 20 LGW-GVA seasonal flights not LCY.
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:07 pm

Viscount724
I said quite clearly in my earlier post 20 seasonal flights per week from Gatwick to Geneva. December to April.

V.
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:55 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 33):
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Both the Oneworld timetable and BA website still only show the 5 flights per week LCY-GVA I mentioned earlier for a couple of random weeks I checked in January. And what does the Gatwick timetable have to do with LCY?

Sorry. You were replying to this statement

Quoting vectismanpaul (Reply 24):
Geneva is also served on a seasonal basis from Gatwick from December to April with up to 20 flights per week.

So when you quoted the above Reply with

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 27):
When I check schedules for mid-January (the height of the ski season) I only see 5 BA flights a week LCY-GVA, 1 each on Monday and Friday, one on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Same thing the week before Christmas, normally a very busy period.

you and not I made a link between the Gatwick and London City timetables. So, yes. What does the LCY timetable have to do with Gatwick?

What you said was correct for London City. What vedctismanpaul had already said was correct for Gatwick . I simply said:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 31):
If you read these statements carefully you will see that they are certainly not incompatible.


I then added in the timetable details for LHR because the thread is, after all, titled "LHR/GATWICK BA" and not "LCY/GATWICK BA".

What is there not to understand?
 
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RE: LHR/GATWICK BA?

Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:47 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 36):
Quoting VV701 (Reply 31):
If you read these statements carefully you will see that they are certainly not incompatible.


I then added in the timetable details for LHR because the thread is, after all, titled "LHR/GATWICK BA" and not "LCY/GATWICK BA".

What is there not to understand?

Thanks. I thought the reference to 20 flights a week was referring to LCY, not LGW. Sorry for the confusion. All clear now.

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