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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:30 pm

Military jets have escorted a passenger plane to Manchester Airport, National Air Traffic Control Services (NATS) has confirmed.

The planes have landed in the last few minutes, according to NATS - the air traffic management service.

More to come.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-28662561
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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:37 pm

QATAR 23, currently sitting at the end of Runway 06L. Also shown on Skynews is a picture taken of the arrival.

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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:47 pm

Do they not want to evacuate the aircraft in case the suspected device goes off?
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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:04 pm

BBC running a live feed now about this incident. Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-28662867

All flights in and out of MAN are currently suspended and Greater Manchester Police are handling this as a "Full Emergency".

[Edited 2014-08-05 06:04:46]
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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:12 pm

Latest is that nothing suspicious was found. False alarm. Flight now at terminal de boarding. MAN open again.

[Edited 2014-08-05 06:15:54]
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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:20 pm

Wasn't a man escorted off the aircraft by the police? Saw something on Sky.. .then again Sky News is the TV equivalent of the Daily Mail so taken with a pinch of salt.
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Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 5):
Wasn't a man escorted off the aircraft by the police? Saw something on Sky.. .then again Sky News is the TV equivalent of the Daily Mail so taken with a pinch of salt.

Yes, confirmed by Manchester Police. https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/496645157778112512

Apparently he claimed to have a 'device'. All the media keep referring to a 'device' but nobody has actually tried to obtain clarification of what that vague word really means.
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:00 pm

Aircraft in question is A333 A7-AEH.

It is the same aircraft that had a pilot die inflight on route from MNL to DOH few years ago.


The return QR24 is showing over 3 H delay. Now scheduled 6PM UK time
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:40 pm

I could have started this thread before news broke, guess what? I was stoned, I witnessed this live today!!! Wow, just wow. I was traveling towards Cheadle, Mac area, first I saw QR23 and right at the back RAF aircraft..its a shame I was driving otherwise would have taken video or pic..terrible for pax but it was stunning view for aviation geeks like us. I got to know later why there was an escort by RAF aircraft.

[Edited 2014-08-05 11:34:27]
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:04 pm

Video on the ground at manchester with police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tevmiUHKygU
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:57 pm

According to the Guardian - Manchester police source says 'we may be looking at an idiot rather than a terrorist'.
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:21 pm

Quoting theaviator380 (Reply 9):
I was stoned, I witnessed this live today!!!

Not to detract from the point of the thread.
theaviator380 - you did write the above in your post. To most people saying, "I was stoned," is usually taken to mean that someone has been using cannabis and was high. It may have been a typo on your part but a most unfortunate one if so!
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:42 pm

Quoting philvardon (Reply 19):

On this side of the pond "stoned" also mean under the influence of drugs. But understanding that you blokes do have different meanings for certain words, I took that he meant "dumb struck" or "distracted" similar to how I reacted when I saw an F-18 Super Hornet coming in for landing at our local airport last week. Two of us just stood there and stare like a stone statue (fortunately we were not driving) Shrug.

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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:17 pm

Quoting philvardon (Reply 19):
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 20):

Thanks a lot for clearing it up, appreciated you had courtesy to explain this (Unlike some other people who kept saying same thing over n over rather than clearing it up). Eng is not my first language and have seen that word before in other context (not drug wise).

Once again many thanks.
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:02 pm

Quoting kurtverbose (Reply 24):


No problem, it's alright.

I saw few comments on some other sites questioning why no diversion to nearby military base. Do you think any particular reason for not doing it? MAN around area is pretty dense and high in population. Again from the comments I gathered that some local people were scared with unusual activity up in the sky.

[Edited 2014-08-05 15:04:20]
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:58 am

Quoting scottpilgrim (Reply 28):
fighter jet escorts a passenger airliner? Is it more a gesture or a signal that the escorted flight is in trouble? If there indeed were explosives on board and were set off, there is not much a fighter jet can do, is there?

If the aircraft is hijacked and fails to respond to commands - threatens mass destruction and untold death on the ground , the last resort would be to risk assess potential death and TAKE DOWN the stricken plane.

Such a decision would certainly require the highest level of political and military authority however .
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:11 am

BBC radio news reports that a 47 year old man has been detained under the UK mental health laws (presumably the passenger responsible for the bomb scare).
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:38 am

Quoting theaviator380 (Reply 14):
I saw few comments on some other sites questioning why no diversion to nearby military base

I was a little surprised by this too. There are two designated airfields in the UK for handling hijack related incidents - Stansted and Prestwick. I'm surprised this flight continued on to Manchester, and was not diverted to one of these two.
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 am

Isn't Stansted the airport designated for diversions etc when something like happens. Or is that for flights closer to the London area?
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:18 am

Quoting kurtverbose (Reply 10):
Manchester police source says 'we may be looking at an idiot rather than a terrorist'.

As we almost always are. How many times do incidents like this happen and how often does it turn out to be a hoax? Pretty much always. It's certainly not the first time it's happened and it'll continue to happen over and over again.
 
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:30 am

Quoting art (Reply 16):

BBC radio news reports that a 47 year old man has been detained under the UK mental health laws (presumably the passenger responsible for the bomb scare).

For him, it is lucky the plane was close to the UK rather than approaching Qatar... The police would have been a lot less understanding there... Humanity isn't really something understood by the authorities there.
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:02 pm

Quoting a36001 (Reply 18):
Isn't Stansted the airport designated for diversions etc when something like happens. Or is that for flights closer to the London area?

Yup I believe that Stansted is the UK airport designated for 'incidents', its close to London but surrounded by fields, also local to some RAF bases.
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:26 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 20):
For him, it is lucky the plane was close to the UK rather than approaching Qatar... The police would have been a lot less understanding there... Humanity isn't really something understood by the authorities there.

Exactly!

Hopefully this clown has to pay any associated costs involved with the incident...
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RE: Military Jets Escort QR23 Flight To Manchester

Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:10 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 22):
Hopefully this clown has to pay any associated costs involved with the incident...

He has been sectioned under the Mental Health Act so there is a chance this was not premeditated. If he is ill, he should be treated for this. However, if he is found to be mentally sound then I completely agree...
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