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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:03 am

I have been on one the Alliance Air B732 VT - EGD on an Indian Domestic flight some years ago. It crashed in 2000.

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The other one was actually last week. I was on the LinksAir J31 flying from DSA-BHD . The return flight back to DSA came off the runway after a landing gear issue.


Reg: G - GAVA

Some pics I took on the flight :


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Link to news story and pic of the aircraft after the incident :
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Doncaster Airport crash: Passenger rushed to hospital as plane comes down on runway

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/500...pital-plane-runway-crash-Doncaster
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:12 am

OA260 - how many people were on your flight to BHD? I understand there was only one passenger on the ill fêted flight, which was a bit of a surprise!
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:38 am

Quoting sk736 (Reply 51):
OA260 - how many people were on your flight to BHD? I understand there was only one passenger on the ill fêted flight, which was a bit of a surprise!

On my flight it was full. It seems the loads are either great or dire. They have shown some improvement recently. Im hoping this will not effect them too badly in terms of image. The fares are not bad and they have brought in another A/C to cover the DSA route . G - LNKS I believe. The mix of passengers was everything from two older ladies visiting friends to a Family with young kids and construction workers returning to Ireland for the weekend, oh and one Anetter who was just there to tick an A/C off the list  
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:46 am

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 2):
I took flying lessons in a Cessna 172 that another student later crashed upside down in a field.

Being in training aircraft, I've also been in a large amount of aircraft that have had incidents (some serious) before and after me flying them. But, only one C172 which was in an accident later. No serious injuries or casualities, but a complete write off.

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 1):

I've been on a small private airplane that went down with me on it. Does that count?

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...key=1

That is absolutely terrible. Always feels weird reading about accidents in the M20J, particularly as that is the aircraft I did most of my training in.

-CXfirst

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Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:47 am

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 43):

You mean.... 1JAN2007?

Correct. I do. Thanks.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:53 am

1981 Clipper Maid of the Seas. EZE-MIA. I used to keep a very detailed record on the Clippers I've flown. The morning I learned of the Lockerbie incident, I wen't to those records and there it was. Clipper Maid of the Seas| EZE-MIA| DEC 19 1981|. Those records are lost since the early 90s, But you bet I will never forget that entry....
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:06 am

I flew two times on SP-LPC, the Boeing 767-300ER that belly landed in Warsaw and was scrapped as a result of the event.

Not "crash" per se, but still... Plane was no longer in use afterwards.
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:48 am

I have flown on two that I am aware of.

1987, I flew G-BGYL of Britannia Airways from Alicante to Newcastle. In 1992 this aircraft crashed while operating for Copa as HP-1205CMP, Still wearing a hybrid Britannia livery at the time. The crash resulted in a total loss of life.


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The second was G-EZJU of easyJet. I flew on this aircraft many time during the course of my employment with the company. This aircraft was registered to Aires Colombia as HK-4682 when it crashed in 2010, killing two passengers.


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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:49 am

Not sure this counts, but as a teenager in the mid 1990's I was taking flight lessons out of an FBO at WJF in a Piper Pa-28-140 Cherokee, tail number N4308F. I would generally do one lesson a month, and one month I went there to find a "new" aircraft. Turned out another student had put 08F on the runway nosewheel first, and the prop struck the runway. Airframe was fine, but due to shock damage to the crankshaft, the engine needed a complete overhaul...and the FBO found it cheaper to scrap that plane and buy another one!

Unfortunately, I didn't keep a flight log until recently, so I don't know if I've been on any commercial airliners that later went down...although there is one tail of note: the aircraft involved in this incident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_268 was, three years later, my first 747 flight, operating BA 286 from SFO-LHR on May 31st, 2008.

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Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:22 am

My Mom (before I was born) crash landed her Piper J3 Cub in a farmer's field during a thunderstorm and when the farmer came out to help and opened the door and exclaimed "You're a girl!"

My Dad (fmr. USAF Maj. F-5 pilot) and I landed a C172 in a waist high cornfield after missing a hilltop grass runway. We were pushing the plane out of the field when we saw what we thought was the farmer coming to help us only to be told "Hi, I am from the FAA can I help you?"
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:27 am

I think I was on the LTU Tristar that burned in Düsseldorf 1991 but I cant swear as I did not keep any records before 1996.
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:35 am

In March 2012 I was on a demo flight on the same Sukhoi Superjet (97005) that made a belly landing in Keflavik in December 2013.

Not to mention that the SSJ crash in Indonesia was only a few months after my flight, although a different aircraft. Certainly made me thankful nothing went wrong on my demo flight!

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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:18 pm

I have been on SU-GBP, a Boeing 777-200 on BKK-CAI just before this bird had a cockpit fire at CAI and was written off.
Not going down, but not in service anymore  
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:23 pm

Back in the 1990's I flew US Airways every week SDF-PIT-EWR or some similar routing while I was on a work assignment. The US Airways 737-300 that crashed ORD-PIT with the hard over rudder was one that I remember looking at my log and knowing I had flown on.

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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:33 pm

I flew in Eastern Electra N5533 about three months before it was lost at Logan.

Also an Eastern Connie that collided with a TWA 707 near New York. The 707 landed safely but the Connie
crash landed with the loss of 4 people.

Not sure of others.

A Cherokee I flew in a club was lost a few years after club was disbanded.
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:44 pm

Quoting ACEregular (Reply 57):

Going back through my log's I have also flown G-EZJU.
30/10/04 LTN-ZRH
9/6/09 LTN-BCN
12/6/09 LTN-VIE
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 pm

Quoting JakeNorton (Thread starter):
I was on 9M-MRD exactly 1 week from HKG - KUL before the tragic accident occurred... R.I.P.

I was on the missing MH aircraft, KUL-HKG, back in October 2009. I believe it's on this flight that I picked up the swine flu. That bird was cursed, I tell ya! It was terribly sad to see it disappear from a personal perspective, beyond the obvious.
 
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:01 pm

I've flown on Egypt Air B-767-300 SU-GAP from Luxor to Cairo on 12th November 89 + China Airlines B-747-200 (B-1866) from Hong Kong to Singapore on 17th March 92. Both of them crashed.
Also flown on Pukhet Air YS-11 (HS-KVO) wich overun, Iran Air F-100 (EP-IDB) wich was on fire and Sri Lankan A-340-300 (4R-ADA) + A-330-200 (4R-ALS) wich where badly damaged on groud by Tamul rockets at Colombo airport.
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:13 pm

I had not checked before, but your question got me wondering.......so the old log book came out:

- 10 May 2004 = KUL-Brisbane MH B772 9M-MRD
- 21 May 2004 = Brisbane-KUL MH B772 9M-MRO
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:17 pm

I flew on :
VT-EFO Air India on 3 Jun 1979 and two other occasions - it was blown up on 23 Jun 1985
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:26 pm

I flew on Air Canada's CL-65/CRJ-100 C-FSKI YQT-YYZ in August of 1997, before it ran into the trees in Fredericton in December. No fatalities but the aircraft was written off.

Also flew on C-GAUN about 5 times... AFTER the glider incident   
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:31 pm

I flew on N644AA on 12/23/2000 ORD-EGE, which was the aircraft flown into the Pentagon on 9/11
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:34 pm

I've been on 3.

1) Delta Air Lines L-1011-385-1 TriStar 1 N726DA two years before it crashed at DFW as Flight 191. Strangely enough my flight was also flown by the ill fated Captain Ted Connors.

2) Delta Air Lines B-727-232Adv. N473DA approximately a year before it went down on the other end of DFW as Flight 1141.

Finally,

3) Frontier Airlines B-737-2L9Adv. N271FL roughly 6 years before it went down as Bellview Airlines Flight 210 in Lagos, Nigeria. (Re-reg as 5N-BFN)
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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:53 pm

Quoting cipango (Reply 39):
It's not much but I have flown on A6-ERG (EK A340-500) between SYD-DXB about a year before it had a pretty bad tail strike in MEL.

LOL and I I flew on the same aircraft (post 'crash') JNB-DXB last year.

EK First Class MAN-JNB, CPT-GLA (by sandyb123 May 18 2013 in Trip Reports)

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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:13 pm

Liberty Belle I'm sure a lot of us have been on...

N95469 I did a lot of training in and was the first to fly it post fixing. It was a Cessna 152 for KSU that a student had porpoised and crashed pretty badly. Returned to service a year later.
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:40 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 31):
Quoting PM (Reply 37):

Dude. Please publish a list of planes you've flown on so I can make sure I never ride on one. You're bad luck for the plane! (j/k)
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:43 pm

I flew MEL-CHC on NZ, DC-10 ship ZK-NZP (cn 46910/182) , in 1978. This was the aircraft that later crashed in November 1979 into Mount Erebus in Antarctica.

The de-boarding at CHC was through air-stairs on the apron, and I recall seeing a large "P" on the nose gear door as I walked past it.

May everyone from that fateful flight RIP. I believe there is a new documentary out about the flight and the cover-ups that followed. My (then) brother-in-law (policeman) was one of the disaster victim identification squad that was flown down to Antarctica to recover the bodies. Small world....
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:18 pm

I flew on the infamous C-GAUN years after Gimli....it was wfu and stored a couple years later.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:31 pm

Quoting d l x (Reply 75):
Dude. Please publish a list of planes you've flown on so I can make sure I never ride on one. You're bad luck for the plane! (j/k)

Happy to oblige!  https://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=5027

I've also had to go around ten times and that seems to be more than usual.

Thinking about it, is it possible to calculate the statistical likelihood of having flown on an airliner that subsequently crashed? I'm not statistician so I don't know how you'd do it but if someone has made, say, 1,000 flights over forty years on 700 different aircraft...

I've made 929 commercial flights and at least four of these airliners have subsequently crashed with fatalities and the frame written off. Four out of nearly 1,000. Call it five (I wasn't collecting registrations for the first twenty years and I have another 70-odd flights to go). That's one in 200 over nearly fifty years. Of course, you'd probably expect such numbers to decline as planes become safer and crashes are fewer.

But, as I remarked above, it's a bit of a ghoulish subject...  
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:44 pm

I flew a few times on 707 EI-ASO, which later crashed on approach to Sao Paulo on 23.3.89 while in cargo service with TransBrasil as PT-TCS.


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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:03 pm

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 22):
I flew a few times on MSN 24070/1665 while it flew on lease at JU... The aircraft was lost a few years after while with Adam Air in Indonesia...

I also flew on YU-AOO, later PK-KKW (Adam Air) which crashed on 1/1/2007 as flight KI 574.
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:14 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 31):
A bit ghoulish, but I've been on three that I know of.
Quoting PM (Reply 37):
Oh, just found another.

Got another:

PH-BTC
Crashed 2004 (no fatalities).
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:17 pm

On September 13,1985 I flew for the first time to the USA on N93119, the TWA jumbo, from Athens to New York . The plane was lost in July 1996. I used to keep a logbook back then. Of course,one could say that eleven years earlier it was a different airplane...I sat in the back of the cabin and I remember that there was a wide corridor between the last row and the toilets where you could stand, lean upon the bulkhead and stretch.I sat in one of the crew seats behind the door and I thought it was a luxury...
In November 1982 I flew on D-ABHD, a Lufthansa 737-200 from Frankfurt to Vienna. A strong crosswind hit us one minute before landing. The plane crashed near Izmir (Smyrna),Turkey in January 1988 with very few passengers on board and was operated by Condor.

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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:30 pm

I was on a flight the made an engine-out emergency landing. The landing was completely routine. If the pilot hadn't made the announcement, I wouldn't have known the difference.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:32 pm

N612UA on 8/7/1998 from JFK to LAX, and I have 2 segments on N93119 both from ATH to JFK, once in 1992 and again in 1994.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:38 pm

Quoting YouGeeElWhy (Reply 8):
Been on about 40 planes this year and they all went down.

But they also went "up"!

I used to fly an AS350 that later crashed and killed its occupants.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:41 pm

When I was younger, I logged the aircraft I flew on. Was on SK 747 LN-RNA about two years before it crashed near MAD while on lease to Avianca. (I long ago stopped logging aircraft).
https://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=LN-RNA
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:44 pm

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 20):
I worked A/C 753 many times which ended up taking a nasty spill in LGA last year. Shes now lives on in the form of a beer can(s).

I flew on that airplane that crashed at LGA last year as well as SWA Flight 2294 #N387SW which had to make an emergency landing in Charleston, WV after a football sized hole blew in the top of the airplane at 34,000 feet. (BNA to BWI)

The problem is, I was actually on both flights when both instances happened. Needless to say, I don't fly much anymore and only when I have to.

Used to fly a lot for business so I have probably flown on others that subsequently had a crash, just don't keep up with the tail numbers.

Similar question from someone above, is it possible to calculate the statistical likelihood of being on two commercial flights that crashed within the US? I'm not a statistician either so I don't know how you'd do it but I've probably flown close to 2,000 domestic commercial flights over the past 25 years.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:52 pm

Did my first solo in N132ND http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/nyregion/06plane.html?_r=0

This is why we can't have nice things.....

  
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:00 pm

When I was in f/a training we did our wide body observation trip from ORD to LAX on N110AA. Two years later we lost it flying the same route as Flight 191.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:04 pm

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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:05 pm

When I was in college I flew on a TWA 727 N54340 STL-MCI. This was about two years AFTER it was patched from the bombing over Greece that ejected a row of seats out of the plane. I sat near where the blast had been and the over head bin interiors were crudely patched from where shrapnel pierced them. I learned how to fly about ten years ago in several C150's. One of them had previously survived a forced desert landing N10669. Rumor mill believed the pilot exhausted the fuel but NTSB couldn't prove it as the tanks were ruptured. About five years ago a student and instructor on another C150 I trained on N19521 made an emergency landing on a street near FFZ but hit a light pole ruining the plane.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:13 pm

I know I had flown on PSA's N533PS a few times before it went down in SAN in 1978. Used to keep a log as a teenager.

I recall riding flight deck jumpseat on MX's fateful 727-264 XA-MEM SFO-MZT sometime in 1983. A very sad day at Mexicana when that ship went down the day after Easter in 1986.

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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:14 pm

I was learning to fly in the mid 1970s. My trainer was a Grumman AA1A. Someone else rented it, took it out over the Dumbarton Salt Flats, did stunts with it that the airplane was neither designed for or certified to do. It was a know-it-all Navy fighter pilot, so of course he could ignore such trivial things as Do Not Spin placards.. He stuffed a perfectly good little airplane into the salt flats, totaling it. At least this jerk was not in a position to do such a thing again.
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:17 pm

I flew on Aeropostal's DC-9-50 YV136T a few months before its demise in CGU.


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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:18 pm

Quoting YouGeeElWhy (Reply 8):
Been on about 40 planes this year and they all went down.

Did they each "plunge" 500 feet per minute when they went down?
A big heart is commendable. An enlarged heart is a medical condition.
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:20 pm

Quoting airman17 (Reply 88):
Did my first solo in N132ND http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/nyregion/06plane.html?_r=0

This is why we can't have nice things.....

Wow. I have never seen that story. What was he thinking? Or not thinking?

The plane I took my private ASEL checkride in was involved in an accident 1.5 years before and three weeks after I took my checkride in it. (Neither were me btw)

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20031103X01850

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20050622X00839
 
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Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:32 pm

Back in 2006, I got a ride in N3970T, a Piper PA-28 that later crashed in Norfolk, NE:

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20130428X11150&key=1

And in November 2007, I flew ATL-MCI on N914DL, which had an unfortunate run-in with approach lights at LGA in October 1996:


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Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:09 pm

I had the last recorded (IFR) flight of a beautiful Debonair that tragically crashed into a mountain the following week, four dead. Good plane, good pilot (by all accounts), a victim of mountain wave, wind and (perhaps) poor judgment.


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RE: Have You Been On An Aircraft That's Gone Down?

Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:19 pm

I used to fly IAH-SNA a lot when it was just 733s and 735s so it wouldn't surprise me if I flew on the CO 735 that crashed in DEN in 08 on take off.
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